Turkish Super League 2024/25 Season - page 5.

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Quote from: Zlantann on November 05, 2024, 12:02:12 PM

Referees are not perfect so we should expect a few errors sometimes. Jose Mourinho is well known for his harsh criticism of referees. He would always have reasons for the loss of his side especially if there was a tight decision. The Former Chelsea, Real Madrid and Manchester United went as far as calling the referee " just a little boy" which I find disrespectful. He went as far as saying he wouldn't have come to the Turkish League if he was aware of the poor refereeing there. I watched the review of the game and I am sure that some of the biggest coaches in top leagues in Europe would have found it difficult to handle. Both teams were ruthless and some infringements were complex to determine.

Referees problems controversies nothing new in UEFA because it's biggest part of their all system, and we can't blame only Turkish Super League for this but due to José Mourinho it's having more intention in media because under his leadership we have no development in Fenerbahçe so he is trying to bring things in limelight which are understandable for all soccer fans those well aware about him and his tactics while he is having not good results on field.

Turkish Super league is having too many problems which needed to be fixed on professional level but sadly due to political influence they fail to bring few fair things which are surely hurting them badly and now as we were expecting good results and development things are still having not change.

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Mourinho is getting bad results in his Turkish adventure. The easiest thing for him to save the day is to talk about referees...

Nobody asks him why he doesn't give the shirt to Irfan Can Kahveci, who is playing great for the national team. Nobody asks him why he didn't adapt En Nesri to the team...

Mourinho is one of the best sophists in the world. He always finds a way to cover his flaws...

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 05, 2024, 11:25:00 AM

Quote from: wiss19 on November 04, 2024, 04:20:02 PM

Don't get me wrong, we talk about the refs a lot at premier league too, but usually not as much as this, we talk about the performance a bit more

The reason referees are talked about so much in Turkey is that fans don’t trust them. There are also games in the Premier League where the refereeing is poor. For example, I still remember last year when Liverpool's goal was wrongly canceled for offside.Mourinho is a manager who enjoys criticizing referees, so he’ll keep talking about them while he's in Turkey.

Referees are not perfect so we should expect a few errors sometimes. Jose Mourinho is well known for his harsh criticism of referees. He would always have reasons for the loss of his side especially if there was a tight decision. The Former Chelsea, Real Madrid and Manchester United went as far as calling the referee " just a little boy" which I find disrespectful. He went as far as saying he wouldn't have come to the Turkish League if he was aware of the poor refereeing there. I watched the review of the game and I am sure that some of the biggest coaches in top leagues in Europe would have found it difficult to handle. Both teams were ruthless and some infringements were complex to determine.

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Quote from: Jossque on November 04, 2024, 04:40:46 AM

In the closing match of the week, Samsunspor will host Antalyaspor at home.Naturally, the favourite side is Samsunspor but I think Antalyaspor will make a surprise in this match.We may see that Samsunspor, which has not lost in the league for a long time, may lose in this match.Just my opinion.Antalyaspor needs to recover under Alex de Souza and this match may be a critical match for them.

Samsunspor won the match 2-0 and continued without a loss. They have a shining performance in the super league like last year's Girona performance. They also played very well against Fenerbahçe. They are one of the best playing teams and they also have incredible crowd support. This crowd support can easily take them to a better level. With this advantage, they can make it difficult for big teams in the home field.

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Quote from: trendcoin on November 04, 2024, 01:27:01 PM

Fenerbahçe beat Trabzonspor with a last minute goal and reduced the points difference with Galatasaray to 5. Had this match ended in a draw, the points difference would have been 7. With this goal, Fenerbahçe not only got 3 points but also kept their championship hopes alive. A 7 point difference would have focused everyone on Galatasaray's championship. Fenerbahçe got a very important win...

Victory over Trabzonspor is very crucial for Fenerbache to continue to maintain their chances of competing for the title, although currently Gatasaray left Fenerbache with a difference of 5 points but their hopes of becoming a rival for the title are still there considering the season is still very long, besides that of course they hope that Galatasaray will slip at least in the next few matches Grin

, But despite the current competition, of course, the victory achieved by Fenerbahçe shows that they still have a high fighting spirit and do not give up in a match, maybe to catch up with Galatasaray looks very difficult but I think it can still happen on the condition that they can maintain their performance and consistency in the next match, a difficult victory over Trabzonspor should be an evaluation for Mourinho to improve the quality of their attacking and defensive line which is currently not optimal

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Quote from: wiss19 on November 04, 2024, 04:20:02 PM

Don't get me wrong, we talk about the refs a lot at premier league too, but usually not as much as this, we talk about the performance a bit more

The reason referees are talked about so much in Turkey is that fans don’t trust them. There are also games in the Premier League where the refereeing is poor. For example, I still remember last year when Liverpool's goal was wrongly canceled for offside.Mourinho is a manager who enjoys criticizing referees, so he’ll keep talking about them while he's in Turkey.

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Definitely a game to look for, something that was very scary until the last moment but I am glad I won the bet. We need to remember that Mourinho is a great coach and trusting him to do the right thing is definitely not a bad idea at all, he did manage to make this work in the end.

Tough game and yes referee was the talk of the day but that seems like the common thing for the time, everyone at every team keeps talking about the referee all the time, and this is quite common for turkish league as well. Don't get me wrong, we talk about the refs a lot at premier league too, but usually not as much as this, we talk about the performance a bit more, like how players and the coach was, but this feels like not the way turkish football goes, usually here people talk about the referee and how they did more than how their own players did. In the end, it was a good three points for fenerbahce and league continues. I hope Galatasaray and Fenerbahce wins all their remainder of games for me lol.

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Obviously the game was a fun one to watch, I just watched highlights only and it looks like it's definitely a fun one without a doubt. I believe there must be a lot of fenerbahce fans who are excited after this game, and it was definitely one of the most important game in the entire season for them.

Not because what the end result was, but if they lost then the gap would be too high to close afterwards, and that is why it's better to just focus on how to get great results. All in all, we are going to see Fenerbahce and Mourinho keep trying, of course Galatasaray is a great team so it will be a tough battle, but with this game Fenerbahce showed the league that they are not ready to give up and still trying to win the title, this morale could help them with plenty of games until they get a bad result.

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Quote from: MK-74 on November 04, 2024, 02:51:03 AM

There are experienced referees in the league, but how good are the experienced referees? The issue is not experienced or inexperienced referees, the real issue is the lack of good referees, they are all worse than each other. I don't think this problem will be solved, I think the only solution is foreign referees. This is the best option we have.

Even if Turkish league is not as highly talked like some other leagues but that shouldn't make them to higher an incompetent referee because what we saw on that match was totally a work of an incompetent referee, so actually like you suggested the best thing they should have done was to get a foreign referee who knows what he is doing because that kind of referee they use was supposed to officiate on a very local league and not for Turkish that has so many stars.

However could it be that the reason why those kind of referee are very many in the Turkish league was because of their low payments?, so that instead of spending much on the foreign referee they had to go for the chipper ones, however they failed to understand that it gives a good quality to a league when they have a good and experience foreign referees, so actually it was just the referee that makes the match to look a little bit uninteresting.

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Fenerbahçe beat Trabzonspor with a last minute goal and reduced the points difference with Galatasaray to 5. Had this match ended in a draw, the points difference would have been 7. With this goal, Fenerbahçe not only got 3 points but also kept their championship hopes alive. A 7 point difference would have focused everyone on Galatasaray's championship. Fenerbahçe got a very important win...

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This match was indeed full of controversy and became the focus of attention. Many people thought that, after a long spell of 2-2, the match would eventually end in a draw. However, the ref’s decision to add 12 minutes of extra time left more questions than answers. Yes, Fenerbahçe actually score the winning goal during that extra time, a move that sure sparked a lot of debate. A decision like this left many parties feeling that the employment of foreign referees could also be one of the solutions to maintain the objectiveness and quality of the match. Especially, of the match: in the second half of the league.

The prolonged extra time not only gave the game a more nervous atmosphere, it called into question the standard of refereeing and how it is supervised in the Turkish Super League.

I've been reading and listening to several opinions of sports journalists concerning the referee's decision to add extra 12 minutes in the Trabzonspor vs Fenerbahce game but just like I've concluded before trying to get external views, many are of the same of opinion with me that the referee's decision was as a result of the delays that happened in the game which makes the 12 additional time appropriate. The call by some of for foreign referees to be introduced in the Turkish Super Lig I don't think is a good one because the league should be able to raise and use local referees. The 12 minutes was for both teams to utilize it to get a late winner but the home team failed in their bid to win the game while the away team got all three points after former Manchester United midfielder Sofyan Amrabat scored in the final minute of the addition time.

Yes, local referees is not the point, but I am all for a more objective approach across all leagues. I think there is too much room left for subjective management of problematic games. It falls back on the referee and those guys don't deserve it, but they might under pressure for one reason or another. It would be better to have a rule set that rules out these subjective decisions for the sake of their own good.

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Samsunspor and Antalyaspor match should be an easy match for Samsunspor to win before the Galatasaray match, considering Antalyaspor's current situation. Antalyaspor will of course try to win this match to see the top of the rankings. Antalyaspor is close to the relegation zone, so they may part ways with Alex De Souza after a few losses. Good players may not actually make good managers, Alex De Souza is one example of this.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 04, 2024, 09:22:22 AM

Fenerbahçe secured a crucial 3 points by defeating Trabzonspor with a last-minute goal in the away game. Mourinho’s celebration after the goal showed how significant it was. To catch up with Galatasaray, Fenerbahçe will need to go on an extended winning streak.

The match is one of the most aggressive and intense games I have seen in the Turkish League. It produced nine yellow and referee Atilla Karaoglan was just lenient not to have issued a red card. Both teams played with so much pressure that the referee was confused most time because there were several complex infringements. Jose Mourinho needed to celebrate the game because Fenerbahce came from 2-1 down to win the game.

The Portuguese manager criticized the officials for awarding two penalties to Trabzonspor. He even said he doesn't want referee Atilla to be involved in Fenerbahce's future games. But from my observation, the first penalty looks controversial but the second one was clear. The win has moved Fenerbahce to the second position, five points below Galastataray.

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In the first 20 minutes, Trabzonspor played a pressing and intense game, they put a lot of pressure, I wondered how this match would end.
After the 20th minute, Fenerbahçe took control of the game and the squad made the difference in quality felt.
The game calmed down and Fenerbahçe started to take control of the game with Tadic. With the goal scored in the last minute, Fenerbahçe gave the message that they are still continuing for the championship.

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Fenerbahçe secured a crucial 3 points by defeating Trabzonspor with a last-minute goal in the away game. Mourinho’s celebration after the goal showed how significant it was. To catch up with Galatasaray, Fenerbahçe will need to go on an extended winning streak.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on November 03, 2024, 08:15:49 PM

There were 12 minutes of extra time in this match. This alone is an indication of how much the game was stopped. Moreover, even after such a long period of control, wrong decisions can be made. It was even more interesting that the goal came in the 12th minute of extra time. Amrabat was very happy after scoring the goal. Because the referee had called a foul even though he had not committed a foul in a position. Jose Mourinho was also very happy after this match. Because the referee's decisions were very wrong. I think such referees should be demoted and should not referee matches in the upper leagues.

VAR was supposed to be work for better and fair, but things are going more troubling after the introduction of this system as many leagues are having problems and controversies as well which are surely not good for the spirit of game as we are discussing having problems due to VAR in Turkey Super League we are also having same issues in world's best competitive Premier League as well where many coaches are complaining about this and want better use of this technology.

José Mourinho was happy with this as his team was beneficiary of this bad decision but too many questions about referee and his ability to handle big games are moving around which needed to be settled and have better clarity as well hopefully we will have better use of this with all stakeholders will be felt better.

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Quote from: ajanwalker on November 04, 2024, 05:17:35 AM

Another big match ended and all hell broke loose after the match. Billing address: Arbitrator and Var referee. Both sides are right. Trabzon scored a goal. While the ball was still in the air, the referee whistled for a foul and the goal was not counted. Trabzonspor's first penalty did not seem like a penalty to me, the referee did not give it, but the referee intervened and a penalty decision was made. While Fenerbahçe was leading 0-1, it became 2-1 with penalty goals in the second half.
Fenerbahçe scored 2-2 with Dzeko. He scored the winning goal with Ambrabat in the last minute.
Another big match is behind us, the fighting and noise will continue for 3-5 days, then the new week's matches and this will be forgotten and become a thing of the past.

This is the biggest problem of the Turkish league, we experience a new event every week and the next week another event happens, the things that happened the previous week are forgotten. Agenda topics change so quickly that there is no time left to talk about any event. But the general problem is always the same, there is always a problem with the referees and there is never a solution. We have been watching a league that has not been managed cleanly and fairly for many years

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Another big match ended and all hell broke loose after the match. Billing address: Arbitrator and Var referee. Both sides are right. Trabzon scored a goal. While the ball was still in the air, the referee whistled for a foul and the goal was not counted. Trabzonspor's first penalty did not seem like a penalty to me, the referee did not give it, but the referee intervened and a penalty decision was made. While Fenerbahçe was leading 0-1, it became 2-1 with penalty goals in the second half.
Fenerbahçe scored 2-2 with Dzeko. He scored the winning goal with Ambrabat in the last minute.
Another big match is behind us, the fighting and noise will continue for 3-5 days, then the new week's matches and this will be forgotten and become a thing of the past.

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In the closing match of the week, Samsunspor will host Antalyaspor at home.Naturally, the favourite side is Samsunspor but I think Antalyaspor will make a surprise in this match.We may see that Samsunspor, which has not lost in the league for a long time, may lose in this match.Just my opinion.Antalyaspor needs to recover under Alex de Souza and this match may be a critical match for them.

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Quote from: karabiber on November 03, 2024, 03:56:02 PM

Quote from: MK-74 on November 03, 2024, 01:49:42 PM

I want to emphasize once again that foreign referees should come. Referee mistakes are being talked about again because the referee was bad.

This was a very important 3 points for Fenerbahçe. Trabzonspor took the lead 2-1 but I couldn't protect the score and lost the match 3-2.

The referee made ridiculous decisions in this match. The league cannot continue with these referees, the referees should be foreign in the second half of the league.

Trabzonspor's quality is clear and they did everything they could against Fenerbahçe. They dominated Fenerbahce in the first 15 minutes of the game, but it was not possible for them to extend it throughout the game. They are really, really terrible in defense. If they don't fix their defensive problems for the rest of this season, it won't be a good season for them.

It was an enjoyable game and the tempo was high. I congratulate Fenerbahçe but I find it pointless for the fans to rejoice as if they are the champions. Fenerbahçe are not playing a superior team game and with the way they are playing they might be disappointed at the end of the season. The refereeing wasn't terrible but it was wrong that an inexperienced referee officiated this game. The referee didn't manage the game well and I think that's normal because he is inexperienced.

There are experienced referees in the league, but how good are the experienced referees? The issue is not experienced or inexperienced referees, the real issue is the lack of good referees, they are all worse than each other. I don't think this problem will be solved, I think the only solution is foreign referees. This is the best option we have.

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