Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28 - page 19.

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Quote from: JollyGood on September 04, 2023, 08:58:12 AM

The poll has 38 votes and the statistics are quite stunning:

Tyson - 21 (55.3%)
Ngannou - 17 (44.7%)

I am surprised at the number of members that have rated Ngannou to have a chance to cause an upset when he will be facing Tyson Fury in the ring. He might get some success within the fight here and there but it will be a big task for him to win.

Because why not? Wink

This fight is already interesting enough for the people around the world specially if they know both fighter's features, and even us here in this forum are making some wild speculations about what could happen on the day of their fight knowing that both of them are good enough to withstand each other's punches.

Ngannou might be an MMA fighter but he sure ain't the kind of fighter that can be underestimated easily even if he fights in a sport that he knows less about. And if Fury will cut him some slack, I won't be surprised if an upset will happen.

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The poll has 38 votes and the statistics are quite stunning:

Tyson - 21 (55.3%)
Ngannou - 17 (44.7%)

I am surprised at the number of members that have rated Ngannou to have a chance to cause an upset when he will be facing Tyson Fury in the ring. He might get some success within the fight here and there but it will be a big task for him to win.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on September 04, 2023, 12:49:30 AM

If you look at the physique of both of them Francis Ngannou is more likely to have a body posture that looks strong and tough so he can withstand every hug from Tyson Fury.
In this heavyweight fight we are waiting to see who is truly the strongest and deserves to be called a heavyweight monster.

This comparison isn't quite apt. While Ngannou may appear physically tougher than Fury, you can't discount Fury's achievements in boxing. He's undefeated and currently holds the heavyweight championship. I'm not sure if you've seen him fight against boxers with strong physiques, but he has beaten them. One of the most notable boxers he defeated was Wilder, a KO artist, but Fury identified his weaknesses and exploited them during the fight. Fury is a smart boxer, and he wouldn't allow himself to lose to a fighter who isn't a boxing pro. So, it's important not to set overly high expectations for Ngannou; you might end up disappointed.

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Quote from: bittraffic on September 02, 2023, 10:52:16 AM

In HW boxing, Fury had beaten everyone in that division, which may be the reason why Ngannou was introduced and most likely after this fight win or lose Fury will face Usyk. It is also a win-win for Fury, he ducked Usyk while also making a cross-fight and making millions at the same time.

But Ngannou has a fighting chance and with Mike Tyson training him + a KO punch, his winning chance increases the fact that Fury had been knockout before he managed to get up though.

Tyson Fury has a title in the heavyweight class and he has succeeded in making many challengers fall when they want to take the championship belt from his hands but later when the fight on October 28 brings him together with Francis Ngannou there will most likely be some difficulties Tyson Fury not going to win because Francis Ngannou is not a boxer who is easy to beat and cannot be taken lightly.
In addition Francis Ngannou was really expected by many people including Mike Tyson to become a winner and made Tyson Fury unable to boast about his every victory.

If you look at the physique of both of them Francis Ngannou is more likely to have a body posture that looks strong and tough so he can withstand every hug from Tyson Fury.
In this heavyweight fight we are waiting to see who is truly the strongest and deserves to be called a heavyweight monster.

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Quote from: Dave1 on August 31, 2023, 08:35:40 AM

Thanks, and that's what I'm saying, there is no value on betting for Fury. However, if we go for Francis, high risk high rewards for some of us. Small bet means big profits. But still depend on the gambler though.

Maybe they are going to be smart and just bet a lot of money on Fury, just to win big as well.

But for us, we will have to take some risk, average gamblers.

In my opinion, the best option is not just to take a chance and bet on Ngannou, but also try to guess the round in which he can win - if successful, the multiplier will justify the risk. A bet on Fury doesn't make sense because of the low odds and because Fury is unstable, who knows how much beer (or cocaine haha) he will use knowing that he will have an easy fight ahead of him.

That should be the best move in this fight, we know that Tyson Fury's odds will not give us anything good because we're just an average gambler who mostly want good odds with some few risks that somehow got a decent chance in winning. And if Fury will think that this is just a mere walk in the park to him then it's good because that gives us more chances because we know that Ngannou doesn't play games.

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Quote from: Dave1 on August 31, 2023, 08:35:40 AM

Thanks, and that's what I'm saying, there is no value on betting for Fury. However, if we go for Francis, high risk high rewards for some of us. Small bet means big profits. But still depend on the gambler though.

Maybe they are going to be smart and just bet a lot of money on Fury, just to win big as well.

But for us, we will have to take some risk, average gamblers.

In my opinion, the best option is not just to take a chance and bet on Ngannou, but also try to guess the round in which he can win - if successful, the multiplier will justify the risk. A bet on Fury doesn't make sense because of the low odds and because Fury is unstable, who knows how much beer (or cocaine haha) he will use knowing that he will have an easy fight ahead of him.

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It will be struggle for Francis Ngannou because nobody did cracked Fury before and that is also one of the obvious reasons why most people don't believe that the MMA fighter can make a difference in this fight. Not this time. But I'm still looking forward to see a good fight between the two of them.

I'm inclined as well that this will be a good fight because Ngannou is not that unknown after all, even if he is not from the boxing industry. He can somehow make the fight worth it even though the upper hand is not with him and of course he knows that but still, he is still eager and confident enough that he can make a difference. You know, even the slightest hand still stand a chance.

Ngannou is training with one of the best boxers in the history of the sport, so he can shock the boxing world and spectators with a win over Fury. Even with all the experience Fury has got, it is not going to be an easy fight for him because Ngannou is also going for the win in this fight and even if he looses will not make the fight easy for Fury. Some few weeks to the fight, both fighters will be studying the moves and tactics of each other as well as training physically, and eating right for the fight. If you bet on Ngannou, you can make a lot of money if he wins.

That's quite a big word mate, to say that Ngannou can shock the boxing world along with its spectators by upsetting the Tyson Fury in a duel inside the boxing ring which is the latter's sport. I know that there is a chance even if it's just slim but it's still too soon for it to say specially after knowing that the odds aren't in favor with the MMA fighter.

Tyson Fury may or may not face some troubles in this fight because Ngannou isn't an ordinary fighter as well but I know that Fury already have his eyes on the prize and will not underestimate his opponent because his undefeated record is on the line while Ngannou here have nothing to lose as after all, this is still his boxing debut and won't probably matter anyway because he's an MMA fighter in the first place.

In HW boxing, Fury had beaten everyone in that division, which may be the reason why Ngannou was introduced and most likely after this fight win or lose Fury will face Usyk. It is also a win-win for Fury, he ducked Usyk while also making a cross-fight and making millions at the same time.

But Ngannou has a fighting chance and with Mike Tyson training him + a KO punch, his winning chance increases the fact that Fury had been knockout before he managed to get up though.

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It will be struggle for Francis Ngannou because nobody did cracked Fury before and that is also one of the obvious reasons why most people don't believe that the MMA fighter can make a difference in this fight. Not this time. But I'm still looking forward to see a good fight between the two of them.

I'm inclined as well that this will be a good fight because Ngannou is not that unknown after all, even if he is not from the boxing industry. He can somehow make the fight worth it even though the upper hand is not with him and of course he knows that but still, he is still eager and confident enough that he can make a difference. You know, even the slightest hand still stand a chance.

Ngannou is training with one of the best boxers in the history of the sport, so he can shock the boxing world and spectators with a win over Fury. Even with all the experience Fury has got, it is not going to be an easy fight for him because Ngannou is also going for the win in this fight and even if he looses will not make the fight easy for Fury. Some few weeks to the fight, both fighters will be studying the moves and tactics of each other as well as training physically, and eating right for the fight. If you bet on Ngannou, you can make a lot of money if he wins.

That's quite a big word mate, to say that Ngannou can shock the boxing world along with its spectators by upsetting the Tyson Fury in a duel inside the boxing ring which is the latter's sport. I know that there is a chance even if it's just slim but it's still too soon for it to say specially after knowing that the odds aren't in favor with the MMA fighter.

Tyson Fury may or may not face some troubles in this fight because Ngannou isn't an ordinary fighter as well but I know that Fury already have his eyes on the prize and will not underestimate his opponent because his undefeated record is on the line while Ngannou here have nothing to lose as after all, this is still his boxing debut and won't probably matter anyway because he's an MMA fighter in the first place.

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Quote from: notblox1 on August 30, 2023, 04:57:34 PM

Mike Tyson said that he thinks Francis Ngannou is going to give Tyson Fury a good fight, and he even gave him few tips how to fight against Fury.
I dont know who else is going to train and prepare Ngannou for this fight but this is going to be big boost to have Iron Mike in his corner.
I think most he can do is to win few rounds, but he is entering dangerous uncharted waters with boxing.
If rematch fight would happen in MMA that could easily be highest paying MMA fight in history.

Francis Ngannou having Mike Tyson on the side is indeed a big plus for him, his chance in this fight against Fury might not be guaranteed but with Mike, he got more chances knowing that the legend can give a thing or two about fighting at the heavyweight division mainly in the world of boxing.

We know that Mike is old enough when it comes to these things, but his experience enables him to teach the following generations because he got a different mindset. Remember that Mike Tyson was already a beast in his era but that jailtime made him a much dangerous beast, who knows what he did during that course but he evolved and so I think too that maybe Mike can give out a few factors about what he did.

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It will be one of the most memorable matches in the boxing world. I see it as normal for Saudi Arabia to host, now they make strong investments in every branch of sports and they are ready to host in every branch. As for the fight, Tyson Fury is the most unique heavyweight champion ever, it's a family tradition for the Fury family. Francis is very strong and explosive in MMA style with very strong very strong hands. In a fight like that, anything can happen in one hit, oh so exciting. Even if I want Francis to win, he doesn't seem to have much of a chance against Fury.

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Quote from: Viscore on August 30, 2023, 10:14:33 AM

Quote from: Dave1 on August 30, 2023, 09:44:10 AM

Of course, if there are gamblers who love to bet on the underdog then Francis Ngannou will be there guy. As Fury might be the overwhelming favorite here and ML might not be worth to take a risk.

You have to risk 1,000 to win 100 if you bet on Fury to win straight up, that's the moneyline odds.

https://www.covers.com/boxing/tyson-fury-vs-francis-ngannou-odds

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Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou odds

Favorite Odds Underdog Odds
Tyson Fury -1,000 Francis Ngannou +600

It's not particularly appealing, and it doesn't promise easy money either. Let's wait for a while; as the fight approaches, betting sites might be able to offer more markets for this match. This could help attract gamblers to place bets on this upcoming event.

Thanks, and that's what I'm saying, there is no value on betting for Fury. However, if we go for Francis, high risk high rewards for some of us. Small bet means big profits. But still depend on the gambler though.

Maybe they are going to be smart and just bet a lot of money on Fury, just to win big as well.

But for us, we will have to take some risk, average gamblers.

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Quote from: notblox1 on August 30, 2023, 04:57:34 PM

Mike Tyson said that he thinks Francis Ngannou is going to give Tyson Fury a good fight, and he even gave him few tips how to fight against Fury.
I dont know who else is going to train and prepare Ngannou for this fight but this is going to be big boost to have Iron Mike in his corner.
I think most he can do is to win few rounds, but he is entering dangerous uncharted waters with boxing.
If rematch fight would happen in MMA that could easily be highest paying MMA fight in history.

Mike Tyson is experienced and knows basically what's coming in for the big fight. He has his favorite fighter and would be able to prepared him for the forthcoming challenge. Francis Ngannou is competent to face Tyson Fury, his punches are equivalent to 96 horsepower, or even more than. We shouldn't underestimate the fighter who's keen on breaking more records before the very sights of Mike Tyson. His opponent, Tyson Fury is also tough and definitely the fight is going be challenging and difficult to predict the winner. On the othe hand, Fury have higher probabilities of stepping out of the ring a winner.

Can we compare the punching power of Ngannou to Wilder? I believe both are power punchers; Wilder, for instance, has a 100% KO ratio when he faced Fury. However, Fury completely dominated him and dismantled what he had accomplished in boxing. This situation illustrates that relying solely on power might not be sufficient. I understand why experts think Ngannou has a slim chance of winning against Fury. The latter is a master of his game, and it's important to remember that we are discussing boxing—Fury's familiar territory.

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Quote from: notblox1 on August 30, 2023, 04:57:34 PM

Mike Tyson said that he thinks Francis Ngannou is going to give Tyson Fury a good fight, and he even gave him few tips how to fight against Fury.
I dont know who else is going to train and prepare Ngannou for this fight but this is going to be big boost to have Iron Mike in his corner.
I think most he can do is to win few rounds, but he is entering dangerous uncharted waters with boxing.
If rematch fight would happen in MMA that could easily be highest paying MMA fight in history.

Mike Tyson is experienced and knows basically what's coming in for the big fight. He has his favorite fighter and would be able to prepared him for the forthcoming challenge. Francis Ngannou is competent to face Tyson Fury, his punches are equivalent to 96 horsepower, or even more than. We shouldn't underestimate the fighter who's keen on breaking more records before the very sights of Mike Tyson. His opponent, Tyson Fury is also tough and definitely the fight is going be challenging and difficult to predict the winner. On the othe hand, Fury have higher probabilities of stepping out of the ring a winner.

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Quote from: notblox1 on August 30, 2023, 04:57:34 PM

Mike Tyson said that he thinks Francis Ngannou is going to give Tyson Fury a good fight, and he even gave him few tips how to fight against Fury.
I dont know who else is going to train and prepare Ngannou for this fight but this is going to be big boost to have Iron Mike in his corner.
I think most he can do is to win few rounds, but he is entering dangerous uncharted waters with boxing.
If rematch fight would happen in MMA that could easily be highest paying MMA fight in history.

Yes, as we have said, maybe a couple of tips from Iron Mike and that's it. Because when the bell rings, it's him and Fury alone. It might be funny though if we see Francis doing the Tyson, back and forth wobbling of head and then caught Fury along the way.

But it's going to be very hard for Francis, stamina wise, I don't think he can go up for full 12 rounds against Fury. Maybe Fury strategy is not to get caught early and make Francis tire in the middle of rounds.

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Quote from: notblox1 on August 30, 2023, 04:57:34 PM

Mike Tyson said that he thinks Francis Ngannou is going to give Tyson Fury a good fight, and he even gave him few tips how to fight against Fury.
I dont know who else is going to train and prepare Ngannou for this fight but this is going to be big boost to have Iron Mike in his corner.
I think most he can do is to win few rounds, but he is entering dangerous uncharted waters with boxing.
If rematch fight would happen in MMA that could easily be highest paying MMA fight in history.

Iron Mike can offer some tips but he never fought someone as big, smart, and as skillful as Fury before. But indeed he can boost Ngannou's morale. While Ngannou literally has a very low chance of winning already, his inactivity of nearly two years further diminished his chance of causing an upset. He is also turning 37 so aside from not being known as a quick fighter, his reflexes won't be the same as before.

The best I can see for Ngannou is to not care about winning rounds. He better not waste his already limited energy trying to jab without having plans to follow it up with a power punch. I'll be very glad to see Ngannou catching and putting Fury down and causing a major upset but he needs to do it before he runs out of gas. Fury also knows that Ngannou will be tired after 3 or 4 rounds so he might stay away from harm and just use his jabs in the early rounds.

As for the rematch in MMA, I doubt Belly Duck will grant it. He even refused a huge money from Saudi for a chance to become the first ever undisputed heavyweight champion in this 4-belt era.

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 30, 2023, 03:52:45 PM

I like it when the media dubbed as the "The Mount Rushmore of upsets". That is, if Ngannou wins this fight specially by a one punch knockout. Yeah, I do agree that Francis could hit harder than Fury or even Wilder, so we will see if Fury jaw can hold up as he was knock down by Wilder in their first fight but was able to get back from the canvass.

But as Francis says, “Everybody is beatable,”

Between the 2, Ngannou has the bigger and more solid build. Even if his punches are blocked, Fury will feel it on his arms. The only worry for Ngannou is the counter from Fury which can be damaging since usually catches the fighter unprepared. And if it did hurt Ngannou, it's over. There are just 2 options here, either Ngannou down on the ground or Fury lying down there.

2 more months for this fight. If it's worth it, I'd be rooting for Ngannou by KO. Nothing is more exciting than seeing an underdog winning the biggest fight of his career.

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Quote from: QueenVera on August 30, 2023, 10:33:50 AM

Recently I came across a news concerning the British professional boxer Joe Joyce, who's sparred with both fighters and he made a statement saying that, naturally Ngannou hits harder if you give him a chance to, and that fury is a slippery character but has shown that he also could hit very hard too, judging from the knockouts Dillian Whyte and Deontay Wilder, he also said that fury is quicker and has a better boxing skills but warns that he shouldn't switch of on Ngannou who he refers to as the the freak of nature, and that since he's quick as well based on the fact that he started with boxing if fury freaks out It could give Ngannou and advantage to nail him down and hurt him with a hard punch, Ngannou is considered the underdog in this fight bit there are chances that he could win fury well only time will tell

The Fury is hard boxer and Ngannou also the hard boxer,if he get the enough time from the opponent.But the Fury will not give the chance to Ngannou in the game.The Ngannou will be the good player but the opponent is the Tyson Fury.So the most hardest boxer in the ring will be the Fury.The Fury was the KO specialist said by many players like Dillian Whyte.Some people define Ngannou as the natural fighter,So the game going to more interesting one.The full game in the Fury giving time to the opponent or not,the opponent is the Ngannou will wait for his opportunity.If the Fury give time,the entire match will be move forward to the Ngannou.Ngannou will shows his real game to the Fury and made a new history against Fury.

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Mike Tyson said that he thinks Francis Ngannou is going to give Tyson Fury a good fight, and he even gave him few tips how to fight against Fury.
I dont know who else is going to train and prepare Ngannou for this fight but this is going to be big boost to have Iron Mike in his corner.
I think most he can do is to win few rounds, but he is entering dangerous uncharted waters with boxing.
If rematch fight would happen in MMA that could easily be highest paying MMA fight in history.

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I like it when the media dubbed as the "The Mount Rushmore of upsets". That is, if Ngannou wins this fight specially by a one punch knockout. Yeah, I do agree that Francis could hit harder than Fury or even Wilder, so we will see if Fury jaw can hold up as he was knock down by Wilder in their first fight but was able to get back from the canvass.

But as Francis says, “Everybody is beatable,”

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Recently I came across a news concerning the British professional boxer Joe Joyce, who's sparred with both fighters and he made a statement saying that, naturally Ngannou hits harder if you give him a chance to, and that fury is a slippery character but has shown that he also could hit very hard too, judging from the knockouts Dillian Whyte and Deontay Wilder, he also said that fury is quicker and has a better boxing skills but warns that he shouldn't switch of on Ngannou who he refers to as the the freak of nature, and that since he's quick as well based on the fact that he started with boxing if fury freaks out It could give Ngannou and advantage to nail him down and hurt him with a hard punch, Ngannou is considered the underdog in this fight bit there are chances that he could win fury well only time will tell

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