Topic: Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28 - page 23. (Read 4444 times)

Mike Tyson has already an age which means his Stamina, power, speed and strength are not the same when he is in his prime or let say in his younger ages. But the veteran is still veteran and I think he has to prove us that ages doesn't matter as long as his body can sustain from the punches of his opponent then all I can say is that still he has a chances. But in the other hand ngannou will take the age advantages in order to defend himself he will use speed and power for sure.

Not only are you enthusiastic about this match, I even really liked the concrete neck (Mike Tyson) from my childhood, and in the end I was able to witness Mike Tyson's return to boxing again against Ngannou, of course it's worth watching and even for sure all boxing lovers will watching this fierce battle, because we know that Mike Tyson has decided to retire from the world of boxing, but I was surprised when I saw the threads regarding this discussion, of course this will be an exciting spectacle for me to watch with my family there who have always idolized Mike Tyson..

Talking about this fight, looking physically very far from Mike Tyson and Ngannou and very far from the age difference between the two boxers, if in terms of experience, of course Mike Tyson is far superior to his opponent, but physically Ngannou seems to be in good condition in stamina as well as movement and punching power are still in good condition, then what about Mike Tyson's punching power at the age of 57, is it still the same as the age when he was still a professional boxer, of course this is a question mark for all of us as spectators, even though this fight only aiming to make money, at least we are all still asking questions about Mike Tyson's condition, stamina and punching power, which is already 57 years old.

Shocked because Ngannou waited for 3 years? Then you dont know the story of Ngannou and UFC at all. It took him so long because he wasnt able to negotiate new contract with his formed promotion. His new contract with PFL, allows him to have boxing fight while being signed with mma promotion. In addition Fury was busy fighting others and drinking

In case some of guys don't know the fight rules of this bout, here's some of its details:

The fight will be conducted under standard boxing rules, marking a unique showdown between two formidable fighters from different disciplines.

Although no titles will be at stake, the fight will be scored by three judges using the 10-point must system. Over ten rounds of three minutes each, the fighters will battle it out in the ring.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/boxing/tyson-fury-vs-francis-ngannou-27303785

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I head as well that Francis Ngannou tried to suggest and submit to the committee that both of them should use grappling gloves (the ones that are used in MMA fights) but it was rejected because this fight will be fought in the boxing ring and will be under the boxing rules, just like what the article is saying above.

Also, it shocked me to know that Francis Ngannou has been waiting for this bout for three years now and did really targeted Tyson Fury. So we can say that this storm has been already cooking for quite some time and that tells us that Ngannou will be prepared once both of them will commence their dance showdown in the ring.

Both fighters that are involved in this fight namely Tyson Fury and Francis Ngannou have their own pending business to attend into like the ones mentioned above but for some reasons, like a misunderstanding in their respective negotiations, both fighters have come into terms to leave their own pending business for the meantime and proceed to a fight where they can make more money. It will be a win-win situation but Tyson Fury is the one who will be risking more since this bout will be a professional event.

I think there is still one though, to fight Usyk and this has been in the discussions prior to his fight with Francis Ngannou. And we thought that we are going to see a unification fight at the Heavyweight division. And it seems that we on the way until negotiations broke down. We can't really blame as what is the reasons, they both went public and pointing fingers at each other.

So for me, if he wanted to proved that he is the best in this generation, then he still has Usyk to beat and most likely he will also beat a prime and more so non even a prime version of his domestic rival Anthony Joshua and then he could retire as the one of the best Heavyweight.

So much for the Fury vs Ngannou clown show, Mike Tyson vs Fedor Emelianenko might just be among the card this October.  Consider this post as a filler though it's a bit of an off-topic, I just want to insert the info to leave a bad taste. So who you got and how does it play out?

This is Fedor's death wish by the way I guess Tyson wouldn't say no to someone that is dying. Mikie still got it, somehow he showed it in his last with Roy Jones.

Fury has nothing to prove anymore, in my opinion. He already proved himself when he defeated a prime Wilder twice. During that time, Wilder held the number 1 ranking, and Usyk's name wasn't even in the discussion of champions. So, I don't think Fury is waiting for Usyk to get older or to lose to someone before claiming his belt. It's probably just a matter of negotiations between the two camps in terms of finances that hasn't been agreed upon yet.

In my opinion, it is too late to argue since Fury has already consistently disgraced himself (the first time he ran from Klitschko). I fully admit that in the future Fury may collect all the belts: the first way is to wait for the older Usyk to weaken and beat him “guaranteedly”, and the second way is to wait until Usyk loses to someone else and then take the belts. But all this will already make little sense, besides, the show fights are addictive - a lot of money with a minimum of effort and risk. It's hard to come back from this.

It sounds like Tyson wants Tyson to lose according to his interview this isn't such a lopsided fight after all after examining Francis. But of course, he will be saying this since he is paid to train Francis.

Mike knows that at a certain age like 37, it's a lot harder to train someone to become a boxer unlike Fury who had been boxing his entire life. However it may end, Francis will still have the greatest story of his life from rugs to riches.

In short it will set a precedence that Dana White doesn't like in the long term. We have heard his stories though, Dana low balling him and then he stood his ground and decided to go and fight Fury. So if he wins we might see an avalanche of UFC fighters, but who knows, Francis is fighting the best HW of our generation so very hard to see him winning even if he possesses that one punch knockout.

This is not his territory, so it's hard how he can out smart Tyson Fury even if he got trained by Mike Tyson himself. Because at the end of the end, him and Fury are the only two guys standing after the bell sounds.

Are you talking about beating professional boxer or any professional fighter? There are a lot of examples when fighters got fired or did not sign new contracts with UFC, but performed better and showed good results in other promotions or combat sport. Like Gegard Mousasi or Demetrious Johnson.

To be honest, I dont want Ngannou to win this fight. With winning, he would earn a lot, but that will trigger other fighters to leave other sports and move to boxing. Plus that will lower the importance of boxing. Because look, a guy can go to boxing from other combat sport and beat heavyweight champion in a debut fight. Boxing champs will look weak on a contrast with Ngannou.

Yes, it is more than that. Iron Mike can do a trashtalk and he can definitely do that by just supporting Francis Ngannou without getting himself directly involved with the camp. But this is different and people are now giving more attention to the bout because they know that Mike can literally do a thing or two to help Ngannou in his bout against Tyson Fury. This is getting interesting folks!

There is no way Francis Ngannou is going to defeat Tyson Fury if you take any combination as power alone will not mean anything in Boxing and that too against the best Boxer. The only aspect Francis Ngannou can do right now is to add Mike Tyson in his training corner so that the casual fans will be hyped thinking that it can make a difference  . Tyson Fury is technical is every aspect of defense and counter punches and not just exhausting the opponent  .

Well in my opinion, it's still depends especially because they're heavyweight. If we look at their previous fight, one of them will immediately drop when hit in the face one or two. I just wanna say that Fury is the most experienced boxer compared to Ngannou, so it's advantage for Fury. Ngannou is good at mixed martial arts, and since the fight is held in the boxing ring, it's always advantage for the one who is really a boxer and fought already strong opponents. If we analyze very well, it's an advantage for Fury but it's still depends since the one punch of Ngannou is enough to put Fury to sleep.

Ngannou might only be good if he is the one dictating the game because this would be what Mike would teach him to be. Not like a technical fighter who will identify patterns of how Fury reacts to certain approaches. Ngannou may fail in being a pressure fighter against Fury but he only needs one punch.

Like what Mike was always quoted. Everybody has a plan until they got punched in the face. Though it's a long shot, I would still hope for Ngannou to win. A new face coming from a very depressed country rising like Pheonix.

Yeah, a prime Mike Tyson is very scary, but I do think that he trains hard as well during his early days that's why he almost knockout his opponents.

But going back to this fight, he could motivate Francis too and maybe gives one or two pointers on how to throw that devastating knockout if he sees one. Votes though are very close in our community. But if you look at sports bookies, they really favor Tyson Fury and Francis is like 6:1 underdog. So it's just a matter of execution for Francis and he should be aware on how he can preserved his energy for the later rounds.

To be honest, Francis Ngannou needs to win this fight because I have never seen someone beat a professional fighter after exiting UFC. I mean, all of them are entirely crashed due to their low oxygen capacity, especially in 12-round fights. They are all exhausted and can't continue to throw power punches after that and easily get beaten by their opponents. Tyson Fury is known to use that technique where he just makes his opponent tired and throws some huge punches to knock them out just like what he did to Wilder in their last 3 fights.

He cannot blame someone for that if ever his fight against Francis Ngannou will not be fruitful as he expected and hence will be a huge embarrassment to his career because he shook the wrong tree instead of continuing his way in the boxing career for the unification fight. For what it's worth, he have this coming and since this will be a professional bout, he should expect already that Ngannou will be coming to him hard because Ngannou himself doesn't want losses specially now that people are doubting him, he loved that!

To find out real opinions, one must look at voting with money and not with simple votes that cost nothing to the one who made a mistake in the forecasts.
I have always been amused by the American betting format - yes, in a sense it is convenient (it seems that it is maximally simplified so that the most stupid can bet hahaha), but if we want to move from quotes to percentages, then difficulties arise. The usual format is much simpler (you only need to divide the unit by the coefficient and we will find out the percentage).