Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28 - page 26.

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Quote from: tokeweed on July 27, 2023, 08:09:57 AM

Seriously tho, Ngannou has a puncher's chance. More so at the early rounds. But after around R3, he'll start to fade and Fury will take over and win. So a live bet for Fury is prolly the best way to go about this. Hopefully Ngannou makes it competitive at the first couple of rounds or even get a KD.

I agree with you.
I am sure first two rounds will be good for Ngannou, unless he runs like a bull without thinking and lands on fury fist Wink

He sure has power and he could create some damage to Fury, but that can only happen if Fury doesnt take him seriously at all.
Whatever happens in this fight they will both come out as winners with multi million dollars earned, but maybe we could earn something along the way.

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Quote from: notblox1 on July 26, 2023, 03:56:27 PM

I am really surprised to see so many people voting for Francis Ngannou to win in this pool, it is 16-14 for Tyson Fury right now, much better odds than with bookmakers.
Question for all this guys who think Ngannou will win in this fight is are they ready place some money to back this up Wink

I dont know where Ngannou is now but his last statement is that Fury is underestimating his boxing skills.
Meanwhile Tyson Fury is now in Phuket, Thailand preparing for this fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDgA5a4_XMQ

Many people do not vote for the result they consider most likely, but rather for the one they would like to see. In such a boring event, many would like to see at least something interesting and it is obvious that this is an underdog victory.

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Based on covers. , the odds are as follows.

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Tyson Fury -1,000 Francis Ngannou +600

In a more familiar format, it turns out x5 for Ngannou? I would not say that this is an interesting coefficient, given that he has very illusory chances, largely dependent on simple luck. I would think about the bet if the odds were around 10, no less.

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Nope. It seems Tyson is winning in the poll. 18-15 votes.

It will really be the biggest upset in boxing history if Ngannou can pull this up. He can throw this biggest uppercut like what he did to Overeem to topple this. It's not really impossible but I wouldn't count on it. Realistically, Ngannou will gas out in 3-4 rounds while Fury will just be picking his shots to circle him. Fury being the undefeated HW champion, can instantly open Ngannou's defense to put an end to the fight.

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Quote from: notblox1 on July 26, 2023, 03:56:27 PM

I am really surprised to see so many people voting for Francis Ngannou to win in this pool, it is 16-14 for Tyson Fury right now, much better odds than with bookmakers.
Question for all this guys who think Ngannou will win in this fight is are they ready place some money to back this up Wink

I noticed that as well. If only the odds were as close as the result of the poll then I would not hesitate to bet a good amount of money on Fury hehe.
Some of those who voted on Ngannou probably placed some spare change already. I can't blame them if that's the strategy since it's tempting and not much to lose.

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Quote from: notblox1 on July 26, 2023, 03:56:27 PM

I am really surprised to see so many people voting for Francis Ngannou to win in this pool, it is 16-14 for Tyson Fury right now, much better odds than with bookmakers.
Question for all this guys who think Ngannou will win in this fight is are they ready place some money to back this up Wink

I dont know where Ngannou is now but his last statement is that Fury is underestimating his boxing skills.
Meanwhile Tyson Fury is now in Phuket, Thailand preparing for this fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDgA5a4_XMQ

Why mate? Judging from your words, it sounds like an upset is very impossible in this fight just because of the fact that the fight will happen inside the boxing ring. Actually, it's not that surprising to see that Ngannou is just a few votes away from Fury because this fight wouldn't make such noise in the social media if people already know who will win and believed that Fury can literally dominate the challenger.

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Quote from: yazher on July 27, 2023, 08:27:18 AM

Quote from: Natalim on July 27, 2023, 05:54:56 AM

True, many of us here chose Ngannou to win, despite him not being a boxing champion. Fury is the most popular in the heavyweight division now, and since they are boxing, it's more likely that Fury will win. As far as I remember, I have not seen a boxing champion lose to a UFC fighter in a match. Even Mayweather, who has already retired and only participates in exhibition fights, still wins because it's boxing.

For me, this fight is most likely that of McGregor and Mayweather and since these two are heavyweights, then the fight would not last long because Francis will surely unleash huge power punches that would knockdown Fury multiple times but if he gonna successfully hit him bit if not and the punches will only hit the air, then probably as an easy win for Fury because that's how he most wins his fight in the past by letting his opponent miss and will gonna make them tired and he will throw lots of accurate punches to knock them out.

I'm not seeing Francis hitting Fury flash in the face that will cost him to go down. Fury eat the best punch of Wilder in their first fight, was knock down and we though that it was over. But lo and behold, he was able to get up from the canvass.

My point is that even if by chance he got hit by Francis, I think that Fury can get up as well. And if we compare it to Floyd vs McGregor, Floyd simply allow Connor to hit him at times. But Floyd knows that sooner or later, the Irish man is going to get tired. So I'm seeing the same strategy by Tyson here, let Ngannou fight and throw punches early, it might hit him, but after 3 rounds, Francis might ran out of steam and then Fury scoring and then deliver a knockout punch.

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Quote from: Natalim on July 27, 2023, 05:54:56 AM

True, many of us here chose Ngannou to win, despite him not being a boxing champion. Fury is the most popular in the heavyweight division now, and since they are boxing, it's more likely that Fury will win. As far as I remember, I have not seen a boxing champion lose to a UFC fighter in a match. Even Mayweather, who has already retired and only participates in exhibition fights, still wins because it's boxing.

For me, this fight is most likely that of McGregor and Mayweather and since these two are heavyweights, then the fight would not last long because Francis will surely unleash huge power punches that would knockdown Fury multiple times but if he gonna successfully hit him bit if not and the punches will only hit the air, then probably as an easy win for Fury because that's how he most wins his fight in the past by letting his opponent miss and will gonna make them tired and he will throw lots of accurate punches to knock them out.

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Quote from: notblox1 on July 26, 2023, 03:56:27 PM

I am really surprised to see so many people voting for Francis Ngannou to win in this pool, it is 16-14 for Tyson Fury right now, much better odds than with bookmakers.
Question for all this guys who think Ngannou will win in this fight is are they ready place some money to back this up Wink

I dont know where Ngannou is now but his last statement is that Fury is underestimating his boxing skills.
Meanwhile Tyson Fury is now in Phuket, Thailand preparing for this fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDgA5a4_XMQ

True, many of us here chose Ngannou to win, despite him not being a boxing champion. Fury is the most popular in the heavyweight division now, and since they are boxing, it's more likely that Fury will win. As far as I remember, I have not seen a boxing champion lose to a UFC fighter in a match. Even Mayweather, who has already retired and only participates in exhibition fights, still wins because it's boxing.

You have give an example of a retired boxer vs other fighter in exhibition fight, but their fight is different. In fact, Ngannou fighting base is boxing. He has starting martial arts with boxing, so he isnt a pure UFC fighter.

I am amazed how many people choose Ngannou to win this fight. Wonder what they based on when them make such prediction. His UFC knockout highlights ? Cheesy

Weird that people dont understand how different boxing and mma is. In boxing a fighter can jab his opponent to death and would be a great fight. In mma, a fighter does this, he would either be finished by submission or booo'ed by crowd. The fact that Fury does not have a huge collection of knockouts, he is way better than Ngannou.

Lolol they prolly symphatize for him for how badly he was treated by Dana White and the UFC. Cheesy

There could also be more secret MMA fans here at BCT than we think and they're quietly voting for our guy Ngannou... Cheesy

Seriously tho, Ngannou has a puncher's chance. More so at the early rounds. But after around R3, he'll start to fade and Fury will take over and win. So a live bet for Fury is prolly the best way to go about this. Hopefully Ngannou makes it competitive at the first couple of rounds or even get a KD.

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It's good that Francis is finally given a huge fight after leaving UFC. Francis deserves a mega-fight. But in this one, I am with Tyson Fury. Francis may have a background in boxing but I am almost sure that it isn't sufficient to claim victory against a very brilliant heavyweight.

Francis may throw strong wallops and haymakers, but this is boxing. Even if one of those punches will bring down Fury, he will be given a 10-second count. This isn't UFC that once an opponent is down, he could immediately jump right onto him and smash his face instantly. Fury quickly recovers.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 27, 2023, 06:17:29 AM

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Quote from: notblox1 on July 26, 2023, 03:56:27 PM

I am really surprised to see so many people voting for Francis Ngannou to win in this pool, it is 16-14 for Tyson Fury right now, much better odds than with bookmakers.
Question for all this guys who think Ngannou will win in this fight is are they ready place some money to back this up Wink

I dont know where Ngannou is now but his last statement is that Fury is underestimating his boxing skills.
Meanwhile Tyson Fury is now in Phuket, Thailand preparing for this fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDgA5a4_XMQ

True, many of us here chose Ngannou to win, despite him not being a boxing champion. Fury is the most popular in the heavyweight division now, and since they are boxing, it's more likely that Fury will win. As far as I remember, I have not seen a boxing champion lose to a UFC fighter in a match. Even Mayweather, who has already retired and only participates in exhibition fights, still wins because it's boxing.

You have give an example of a retired boxer vs other fighter in exhibition fight, but their fight is different. In fact, Ngannou fighting base is boxing. He has starting martial arts with boxing, so he isnt a pure UFC fighter.

I am amazed how many people choose Ngannou to win this fight. Wonder what they based on when them make such prediction. His UFC knockout highlights ? Cheesy

Weird that people dont understand how different boxing and mma is. In boxing a fighter can jab his opponent to death and would be a great fight. In mma, a fighter does this, he would either be finished by submission or booo'ed by crowd. The fact that Fury does not have a huge collection of knockouts, he is way better than Ngannou.

Those who choose Ngannou to win believe that he is capable of beating Fury. Although Fury is the majority's favorite, there are still a few who bet against him. In terms of skills, Ngannou is good, even though the fight will take place in Fury's playground. However, I'm sure the biggest factor that attracts them to bet on Ngannou is the betting odds.

Based on covers. , the odds are as follows.

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Favorite Odds Underdog Odds
Tyson Fury -1,000 Francis Ngannou +600

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Quote from: Natalim on July 27, 2023, 05:54:56 AM

Quote from: notblox1 on July 26, 2023, 03:56:27 PM

I am really surprised to see so many people voting for Francis Ngannou to win in this pool, it is 16-14 for Tyson Fury right now, much better odds than with bookmakers.
Question for all this guys who think Ngannou will win in this fight is are they ready place some money to back this up Wink

I dont know where Ngannou is now but his last statement is that Fury is underestimating his boxing skills.
Meanwhile Tyson Fury is now in Phuket, Thailand preparing for this fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDgA5a4_XMQ

True, many of us here chose Ngannou to win, despite him not being a boxing champion. Fury is the most popular in the heavyweight division now, and since they are boxing, it's more likely that Fury will win. As far as I remember, I have not seen a boxing champion lose to a UFC fighter in a match. Even Mayweather, who has already retired and only participates in exhibition fights, still wins because it's boxing.

You have give an example of a retired boxer vs other fighter in exhibition fight, but their fight is different. In fact, Ngannou fighting base is boxing. He has starting martial arts with boxing, so he isnt a pure UFC fighter.

I am amazed how many people choose Ngannou to win this fight. Wonder what they based on when them make such prediction. His UFC knockout highlights ? Cheesy

Weird that people dont understand how different boxing and mma is. In boxing a fighter can jab his opponent to death and would be a great fight. In mma, a fighter does this, he would either be finished by submission or booo'ed by crowd. The fact that Fury does not have a huge collection of knockouts, he is way better than Ngannou.

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Quote from: notblox1 on July 26, 2023, 03:56:27 PM

I am really surprised to see so many people voting for Francis Ngannou to win in this pool, it is 16-14 for Tyson Fury right now, much better odds than with bookmakers.
Question for all this guys who think Ngannou will win in this fight is are they ready place some money to back this up Wink

I dont know where Ngannou is now but his last statement is that Fury is underestimating his boxing skills.
Meanwhile Tyson Fury is now in Phuket, Thailand preparing for this fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDgA5a4_XMQ

True, many of us here chose Ngannou to win, despite him not being a boxing champion. Fury is the most popular in the heavyweight division now, and since they are boxing, it's more likely that Fury will win. As far as I remember, I have not seen a boxing champion lose to a UFC fighter in a match. Even Mayweather, who has already retired and only participates in exhibition fights, still wins because it's boxing.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 25, 2023, 09:23:33 AM

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One of them is gonna chicken out?
This fight is a done deal. Each of them is going to get a ton of cash no one is going to turn down the money that the Arabs are setting up for them. Only a handful of people expect Ngannou will win and I think he may not really win the fight but Ngannou wins against Dana. This was his real fight in the first place where he was belittled so he took a gamble on his career to which Francis got off UFC contract and got a better contract with PFL.

The main motive for this fight is money. And I think that none of these fighters are afraid of money, so the fight will take place Grin

As for Ngannou's chances, it's probably a lucky punch in the first or second round - he has no chance to outbox Fury + in each next round he will lose strength faster than Fury. So if he wants to at least try to win, he should immediately go into close range and trade blows (sounds funny for heavyweights hehe). Fury, on the contrary, must hold back the starting onslaught of Ngannou (and preferably without knocking him out so that the sheiks are satisfied with the long fight) and then simply realize his advantage.

Some bad blood's about to be brewed though I think. Fury's starting to talk smack about Francis Ngannou and he made a response about it saying "he's underestimating my boxing skills" or something along those lines, so this may become more personal than we may think. In any case I just hope they give us an entertaining fight that we'd be able to talk about for a while and not a sleeper few rounds knockout fiasco where the win is apparent right from the get-go. More people are choosing Francis right now which surprises me cause back in the first few days of this thread it's mostly Tyson believers, I wouldn't blame them though cause Francis is a really capable fighter, winning against Fury though is another question.

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I am really surprised to see so many people voting for Francis Ngannou to win in this pool, it is 16-14 for Tyson Fury right now, much better odds than with bookmakers.
Question for all this guys who think Ngannou will win in this fight is are they ready place some money to back this up Wink

I dont know where Ngannou is now but his last statement is that Fury is underestimating his boxing skills.
Meanwhile Tyson Fury is now in Phuket, Thailand preparing for this fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDgA5a4_XMQ

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Definitely the money. There is no way a WBC/WBO boxing champ will fight someone who is a first-timer. For all, we know it's just Jake Logan who does this but WBC consented to make this happen. The hype is on and everybody can make a huge money as well.

Hard to see if Ngannou will ever land a lucky punch. All we witness from him is a Will Smith slap coming from the ground while Fury had been fighting boxers the likes of Wilder.
One possibility is that, and this may just be a tinfoil assumption, Fury may intentionally not knock out Ngannou for the sake of a rematch.

Now the boxing was more corrupted as compared to before,the main reason is to earn money.The boxer had his carrier very short time,it’s the main reason for the corrupted boxers.The boxer doesn’t have a chance to earn more money as like a football player,cricket player.So they get into the match fixing on the important league game.WBC itself get corrupted and allow the Logan to win the match,the Logan match was the game of first time match.

Ngannou should learn the game and get his maximum power punch to win the game against the Tyson Fury.Most of the people support the Fury as compared to the Ngannou.Because Fury was the old player with lot of game win as compared to the Ngannou.Fury full intention to win the game by knock out as compared to win the game by points.

Everyone has their say about this match but there is still a big community that sees it as MMA vs Boxing. Ngannou is a UFC HW champ and Fury is the boxing HW champ. When Jake Paul defeated MMA stars, it then becomes a battle of both combat sports. But this Ngannou-Fury fight is for the badest motherfucker in the world. If Ngannou-Gane got a ton of hype that the legacy media covered it, this one will definitely be in the headlines.

Yep those organizations like WBC or WBO are just the same mafia guys in the beginning of boxing sport, they just got an organization name but it's still them.

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Quote from: bittraffic on July 25, 2023, 01:17:33 PM

Definitely the money. There is no way a WBC/WBO boxing champ will fight someone who is a first-timer. For all, we know it's just Jake Logan who does this but WBC consented to make this happen. The hype is on and everybody can make a huge money as well.

Hard to see if Ngannou will ever land a lucky punch. All we witness from him is a Will Smith slap coming from the ground while Fury had been fighting boxers the likes of Wilder.
One possibility is that, and this may just be a tinfoil assumption, Fury may intentionally not knock out Ngannou for the sake of a rematch.

Now the boxing was more corrupted as compared to before,the main reason is to earn money.The boxer had his carrier very short time,it’s the main reason for the corrupted boxers.The boxer doesn’t have a chance to earn more money as like a football player,cricket player.So they get into the match fixing on the important league game.WBC itself get corrupted and allow the Logan to win the match,the Logan match was the game of first time match.

Ngannou should learn the game and get his maximum power punch to win the game against the Tyson Fury.Most of the people support the Fury as compared to the Ngannou.Because Fury was the old player with lot of game win as compared to the Ngannou.Fury full intention to win the game by knock out as compared to win the game by points.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 25, 2023, 09:23:33 AM

Quote from: bittraffic on July 22, 2023, 09:57:09 AM

One of them is gonna chicken out?
This fight is a done deal. Each of them is going to get a ton of cash no one is going to turn down the money that the Arabs are setting up for them. Only a handful of people expect Ngannou will win and I think he may not really win the fight but Ngannou wins against Dana. This was his real fight in the first place where he was belittled so he took a gamble on his career to which Francis got off UFC contract and got a better contract with PFL.

The main motive for this fight is money. And I think that none of these fighters are afraid of money, so the fight will take place Grin

As for Ngannou's chances, it's probably a lucky punch in the first or second round - he has no chance to outbox Fury + in each next round he will lose strength faster than Fury. So if he wants to at least try to win, he should immediately go into close range and trade blows (sounds funny for heavyweights hehe). Fury, on the contrary, must hold back the starting onslaught of Ngannou (and preferably without knocking him out so that the sheiks are satisfied with the long fight) and then simply realize his advantage.

Obviously, both Fury vs Ngannou, if Francis will get his biggest pay check as a fighter, then Fury might double or triple what Francis will get in this fight. So still a win-win situation for both of them. Fury will have his tune up and barring all circumstances, after this a Usyk and most likely the biggest money in the heavyweight division. Yeah, possible that Fury might play along that line, not to knock out Francis early so that fans will enjoy the fight as long as they can. In short, they need to be entertain as well. And maybe after this Francis will fight the other heavyweights, just to see how his power will match to let's say Wilder or even Anthony Joshua.

We don't even know for sure if these two are just playing with each other and fooling us because they know that if they will make a fight like this, certainly it will be a sold out fight as both participants are interesting enough to see and fight in one same stage. I mean, just look how the hype surrounds him now, both fighters are already enjoying it plus there's this issue where Ngannou was belittled that he cannot make any difference, it's like make the fire grow bigger to entice more people to watch their fight.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 25, 2023, 09:23:33 AM

Quote from: bittraffic on July 22, 2023, 09:57:09 AM

One of them is gonna chicken out?
This fight is a done deal. Each of them is going to get a ton of cash no one is going to turn down the money that the Arabs are setting up for them. Only a handful of people expect Ngannou will win and I think he may not really win the fight but Ngannou wins against Dana. This was his real fight in the first place where he was belittled so he took a gamble on his career to which Francis got off UFC contract and got a better contract with PFL.

The main motive for this fight is money. And I think that none of these fighters are afraid of money, so the fight will take place Grin

As for Ngannou's chances, it's probably a lucky punch in the first or second round - he has no chance to outbox Fury + in each next round he will lose strength faster than Fury. So if he wants to at least try to win, he should immediately go into close range and trade blows (sounds funny for heavyweights hehe). Fury, on the contrary, must hold back the starting onslaught of Ngannou (and preferably without knocking him out so that the sheiks are satisfied with the long fight) and then simply realize his advantage.

Obviously, both Fury vs Ngannou, if Francis will get his biggest pay check as a fighter, then Fury might double or triple what Francis will get in this fight. So still a win-win situation for both of them. Fury will have his tune up and barring all circumstances, after this a Usyk and most likely the biggest money in the heavyweight division. Yeah, possible that Fury might play along that line, not to knock out Francis early so that fans will enjoy the fight as long as they can. In short, they need to be entertain as well. And maybe after this Francis will fight the other heavyweights, just to see how his power will match to let's say Wilder or even Anthony Joshua.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 25, 2023, 09:23:33 AM

Quote from: bittraffic on July 22, 2023, 09:57:09 AM

One of them is gonna chicken out?
This fight is a done deal. Each of them is going to get a ton of cash no one is going to turn down the money that the Arabs are setting up for them. Only a handful of people expect Ngannou will win and I think he may not really win the fight but Ngannou wins against Dana. This was his real fight in the first place where he was belittled so he took a gamble on his career to which Francis got off UFC contract and got a better contract with PFL.

The main motive for this fight is money. And I think that none of these fighters are afraid of money, so the fight will take place Grin

As for Ngannou's chances, it's probably a lucky punch in the first or second round - he has no chance to outbox Fury + in each next round he will lose strength faster than Fury. So if he wants to at least try to win, he should immediately go into close range and trade blows (sounds funny for heavyweights hehe). Fury, on the contrary, must hold back the starting onslaught of Ngannou (and preferably without knocking him out so that the sheiks are satisfied with the long fight) and then simply realize his advantage.

Definitely the money. There is no way a WBC/WBO boxing champ will fight someone who is a first-timer. For all, we know it's just Jake Logan who does this but WBC consented to make this happen. The hype is on and everybody can make a huge money as well.

Hard to see if Ngannou will ever land a lucky punch. All we witness from him is a Will Smith slap coming from the ground while Fury had been fighting boxers the likes of Wilder.
One possibility is that, and this may just be a tinfoil assumption, Fury may intentionally not knock out Ngannou for the sake of a rematch.

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Quote from: bittraffic on July 22, 2023, 09:57:09 AM

One of them is gonna chicken out?
This fight is a done deal. Each of them is going to get a ton of cash no one is going to turn down the money that the Arabs are setting up for them. Only a handful of people expect Ngannou will win and I think he may not really win the fight but Ngannou wins against Dana. This was his real fight in the first place where he was belittled so he took a gamble on his career to which Francis got off UFC contract and got a better contract with PFL.

The main motive for this fight is money. And I think that none of these fighters are afraid of money, so the fight will take place Grin

As for Ngannou's chances, it's probably a lucky punch in the first or second round - he has no chance to outbox Fury + in each next round he will lose strength faster than Fury. So if he wants to at least try to win, he should immediately go into close range and trade blows (sounds funny for heavyweights hehe). Fury, on the contrary, must hold back the starting onslaught of Ngannou (and preferably without knocking him out so that the sheiks are satisfied with the long fight) and then simply realize his advantage.

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