Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28 - page 26.

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Quote from: notblox1 on July 27, 2023, 02:36:12 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on July 27, 2023, 08:09:57 AM

Seriously tho, Ngannou has a puncher's chance. More so at the early rounds. But after around R3, he'll start to fade and Fury will take over and win. So a live bet for Fury is prolly the best way to go about this. Hopefully Ngannou makes it competitive at the first couple of rounds or even get a KD.

I agree with you.
I am sure first two rounds will be good for Ngannou, unless he runs like a bull without thinking and lands on fury fist Wink

He sure has power and he could create some damage to Fury, but that can only happen if Fury doesnt take him seriously at all.
Whatever happens in this fight they will both come out as winners with multi million dollars earned, but maybe we could earn something along the way.

Yup and here's the thing, if Ngannou makes it a bit more competitive after a couple of rounds, check the live odds. If you could get Fury at the decent price, like around 1.50 or better or even 1.30 or better, that's an auto bet imho. And for big money as that's almost a 100% win for a discounted line. Ngannou will prolly just have around 5 to 6 rounds of boxing in him before he gasses out.

And yeah... Ngannou should be happy with the money he's getting. I hope he's so happy that he'll go for a one match contract with the UFC to fight Jon Jones. We the fans deserve to see it. Grin

But don't forget the Ngannou early finishes market tho. Have a feeling he'll touch Fury's chin at R1.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 28, 2023, 02:54:41 AM

"Francis punching power". Did anyone ever see a heavyweight with weak punches ? Cheesy

Like I've said, many just watched Ngannous knockout compilations on YouTube, UFC has created him an image of scary beast. And compared to fat and chubby Fury he sure looks more profitable. I think people who believe in Ngannous victory are away from boxing. And they never seen a real boxing monster with knocking power (like Forman, Frazier, Tua or Ibeabuchi).

For me, what makes Fury able to validate that he is the best in the heavyweight division was when he beat Wilder. The latter was the strongest guy, as he had knocked out all his opponents before facing Fury. However, Fury was strong enough and found a way to beat the beast. So, you are right, Ngannou might have a lot of knockout highlights, but we cannot change the fact that Fury owned the heavyweight division in boxing.

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Another concern is that Ngannou is used to boxing gloves, he is more use to grapplers glove it is way lighter than what is used in boxing. This will consumed way more stamina than the once gloves Ngannou used. I also think that Ngannou may have the chance on the early round but once it goes the distance, we will see how Fury dominates him.

Francis Ngannou started out as a Boxer but he never competed instead took the MMA route as it was fairly new and it was easier to get recognition and money and the glove size is not at all an issue, once you wear them you will understand the difference.

Surprised that many think that Francis Ngannou have a chance in the early rounds against the best Heavyweight boxer of this generation and arguably could be listed among the greatest Boxers ever Cheesy

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Most likely it's because of the power the Francis possesses, and with that many are given him a chance to win. But as you have said, Tyson Fury has this uncanny combination for a HW, very fast, technical, can move with his fight and then he has the power.

So it's really hard to see how Francis will offset that. Maybe he can hit Fury, once, but for sure, with his foot work, it's hard to target a moving object even if it is as big as Tyson Fury.

"Francis punching power". Did anyone ever see a heavyweight with weak punches ? Cheesy

Like I've said, many just watched Ngannous knockout compilations on YouTube, UFC has created him an image of scary beast. And compared to fat and chubby Fury he sure looks more profitable. I think people who believe in Ngannous victory are away from boxing. And they never seen a real boxing monster with knocking power (like Forman, Frazier, Tua or Ibeabuchi).

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Quote from: eaLiTy on July 27, 2023, 04:23:11 PM

Quote from: BitcoinPanther on July 27, 2023, 02:46:23 PM

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Another concern is that Ngannou is used to boxing gloves, he is more use to grapplers glove it is way lighter than what is used in boxing. This will consumed way more stamina than the once gloves Ngannou used. I also think that Ngannou may have the chance on the early round but once it goes the distance, we will see how Fury dominates him.

Francis Ngannou started out as a Boxer but he never competed instead took the MMA route as it was fairly new and it was easier to get recognition and money and the glove size is not at all an issue, once you wear them you will understand the difference.

Surprised that many think that Francis Ngannou have a chance in the early rounds against the best Heavyweight boxer of this generation and arguably could be listed among the greatest Boxers ever Cheesy

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Most likely it's because of the power the Francis possesses, and with that many are given him a chance to win. But as you have said, Tyson Fury has this uncanny combination for a HW, very fast, technical, can move with his fight and then he has the power.

So it's really hard to see how Francis will offset that. Maybe he can hit Fury, once, but for sure, with his foot work, it's hard to target a moving object even if it is as big as Tyson Fury.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on July 27, 2023, 02:46:23 PM

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Another concern is that Ngannou is used to boxing gloves, he is more use to grapplers glove it is way lighter than what is used in boxing. This will consumed way more stamina than the once gloves Ngannou used. I also think that Ngannou may have the chance on the early round but once it goes the distance, we will see how Fury dominates him.

Francis Ngannou started out as a Boxer but he never competed instead took the MMA route as it was fairly new and it was easier to get recognition and money and the glove size is not at all an issue, once you wear them you will understand the difference.

Surprised that many think that Francis Ngannou have a chance in the early rounds against the best Heavyweight boxer of this generation and arguably could be listed among the greatest Boxers ever Cheesy

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on July 27, 2023, 02:46:23 PM

I agree, it would be a matter of stamina since Ngannou is not familiar with long rounds of a fight. He might be gasping for air after 3 or 4 rounds since UFC is know to have 3 or 5 rounds. Another concern is that Ngannou is used to boxing gloves, he is more use to grapplers glove it is way lighter than what is used in boxing. This will consumed way more stamina than the once gloves Ngannou used. I also think that Ngannou may have the chance on the early round but once it goes the distance, we will see how Fury dominates him.

It seems to me that the issue is not the length of the rounds. He has enough physical strength to jump-run for an hour or two, I'm sure of this, the problem is that Fury will constantly hit him, including in the body, and this will greatly reduce both Ngannou's speed and his endurance. As for Ngannou's blows, they are unlikely to reach the goal, but one blow is enough, so there are chances.

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Quote from: tokeweed on July 27, 2023, 08:09:57 AM

Lolol they prolly symphatize for him for how badly he was treated by Dana White and the UFC. Cheesy

There could also be more secret MMA fans here at BCT than we think and they're quietly voting for our guy Ngannou... Cheesy

Seriously tho, Ngannou has a puncher's chance. More so at the early rounds. But after around R3, he'll start to fade and Fury will take over and win. So a live bet for Fury is prolly the best way to go about this. Hopefully Ngannou makes it competitive at the first couple of rounds or even get a KD.

I agree, it would be a matter of stamina since Ngannou is not familiar with long rounds of a fight. He might be gasping for air after 3 or 4 rounds since UFC is know to have 3 or 5 rounds. Another concern is that Ngannou is used to boxing gloves, he is more use to grapplers glove it is way lighter than what is used in boxing. This will consumed way more stamina than the once gloves Ngannou used. I also think that Ngannou may have the chance on the early round but once it goes the distance, we will see how Fury dominates him.

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Quote from: tokeweed on July 27, 2023, 08:09:57 AM

Seriously tho, Ngannou has a puncher's chance. More so at the early rounds. But after around R3, he'll start to fade and Fury will take over and win. So a live bet for Fury is prolly the best way to go about this. Hopefully Ngannou makes it competitive at the first couple of rounds or even get a KD.

I agree with you.
I am sure first two rounds will be good for Ngannou, unless he runs like a bull without thinking and lands on fury fist Wink

He sure has power and he could create some damage to Fury, but that can only happen if Fury doesnt take him seriously at all.
Whatever happens in this fight they will both come out as winners with multi million dollars earned, but maybe we could earn something along the way.

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Quote from: notblox1 on July 26, 2023, 03:56:27 PM

I am really surprised to see so many people voting for Francis Ngannou to win in this pool, it is 16-14 for Tyson Fury right now, much better odds than with bookmakers.
Question for all this guys who think Ngannou will win in this fight is are they ready place some money to back this up Wink

I dont know where Ngannou is now but his last statement is that Fury is underestimating his boxing skills.
Meanwhile Tyson Fury is now in Phuket, Thailand preparing for this fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDgA5a4_XMQ

Many people do not vote for the result they consider most likely, but rather for the one they would like to see. In such a boring event, many would like to see at least something interesting and it is obvious that this is an underdog victory.

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Based on covers. , the odds are as follows.

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Favorite Odds Underdog Odds
Tyson Fury -1,000 Francis Ngannou +600

In a more familiar format, it turns out x5 for Ngannou? I would not say that this is an interesting coefficient, given that he has very illusory chances, largely dependent on simple luck. I would think about the bet if the odds were around 10, no less.

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Nope. It seems Tyson is winning in the poll. 18-15 votes.

It will really be the biggest upset in boxing history if Ngannou can pull this up. He can throw this biggest uppercut like what he did to Overeem to topple this. It's not really impossible but I wouldn't count on it. Realistically, Ngannou will gas out in 3-4 rounds while Fury will just be picking his shots to circle him. Fury being the undefeated HW champion, can instantly open Ngannou's defense to put an end to the fight.

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Quote from: notblox1 on July 26, 2023, 03:56:27 PM

I am really surprised to see so many people voting for Francis Ngannou to win in this pool, it is 16-14 for Tyson Fury right now, much better odds than with bookmakers.
Question for all this guys who think Ngannou will win in this fight is are they ready place some money to back this up Wink

I noticed that as well. If only the odds were as close as the result of the poll then I would not hesitate to bet a good amount of money on Fury hehe.
Some of those who voted on Ngannou probably placed some spare change already. I can't blame them if that's the strategy since it's tempting and not much to lose.

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Quote from: notblox1 on July 26, 2023, 03:56:27 PM

I am really surprised to see so many people voting for Francis Ngannou to win in this pool, it is 16-14 for Tyson Fury right now, much better odds than with bookmakers.
Question for all this guys who think Ngannou will win in this fight is are they ready place some money to back this up Wink

I dont know where Ngannou is now but his last statement is that Fury is underestimating his boxing skills.
Meanwhile Tyson Fury is now in Phuket, Thailand preparing for this fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDgA5a4_XMQ

Why mate? Judging from your words, it sounds like an upset is very impossible in this fight just because of the fact that the fight will happen inside the boxing ring. Actually, it's not that surprising to see that Ngannou is just a few votes away from Fury because this fight wouldn't make such noise in the social media if people already know who will win and believed that Fury can literally dominate the challenger.

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Quote from: yazher on July 27, 2023, 08:27:18 AM

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True, many of us here chose Ngannou to win, despite him not being a boxing champion. Fury is the most popular in the heavyweight division now, and since they are boxing, it's more likely that Fury will win. As far as I remember, I have not seen a boxing champion lose to a UFC fighter in a match. Even Mayweather, who has already retired and only participates in exhibition fights, still wins because it's boxing.

For me, this fight is most likely that of McGregor and Mayweather and since these two are heavyweights, then the fight would not last long because Francis will surely unleash huge power punches that would knockdown Fury multiple times but if he gonna successfully hit him bit if not and the punches will only hit the air, then probably as an easy win for Fury because that's how he most wins his fight in the past by letting his opponent miss and will gonna make them tired and he will throw lots of accurate punches to knock them out.

I'm not seeing Francis hitting Fury flash in the face that will cost him to go down. Fury eat the best punch of Wilder in their first fight, was knock down and we though that it was over. But lo and behold, he was able to get up from the canvass.

My point is that even if by chance he got hit by Francis, I think that Fury can get up as well. And if we compare it to Floyd vs McGregor, Floyd simply allow Connor to hit him at times. But Floyd knows that sooner or later, the Irish man is going to get tired. So I'm seeing the same strategy by Tyson here, let Ngannou fight and throw punches early, it might hit him, but after 3 rounds, Francis might ran out of steam and then Fury scoring and then deliver a knockout punch.

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Quote from: Natalim on July 27, 2023, 05:54:56 AM

True, many of us here chose Ngannou to win, despite him not being a boxing champion. Fury is the most popular in the heavyweight division now, and since they are boxing, it's more likely that Fury will win. As far as I remember, I have not seen a boxing champion lose to a UFC fighter in a match. Even Mayweather, who has already retired and only participates in exhibition fights, still wins because it's boxing.

For me, this fight is most likely that of McGregor and Mayweather and since these two are heavyweights, then the fight would not last long because Francis will surely unleash huge power punches that would knockdown Fury multiple times but if he gonna successfully hit him bit if not and the punches will only hit the air, then probably as an easy win for Fury because that's how he most wins his fight in the past by letting his opponent miss and will gonna make them tired and he will throw lots of accurate punches to knock them out.

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I am really surprised to see so many people voting for Francis Ngannou to win in this pool, it is 16-14 for Tyson Fury right now, much better odds than with bookmakers.
Question for all this guys who think Ngannou will win in this fight is are they ready place some money to back this up Wink

I dont know where Ngannou is now but his last statement is that Fury is underestimating his boxing skills.
Meanwhile Tyson Fury is now in Phuket, Thailand preparing for this fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDgA5a4_XMQ

True, many of us here chose Ngannou to win, despite him not being a boxing champion. Fury is the most popular in the heavyweight division now, and since they are boxing, it's more likely that Fury will win. As far as I remember, I have not seen a boxing champion lose to a UFC fighter in a match. Even Mayweather, who has already retired and only participates in exhibition fights, still wins because it's boxing.

You have give an example of a retired boxer vs other fighter in exhibition fight, but their fight is different. In fact, Ngannou fighting base is boxing. He has starting martial arts with boxing, so he isnt a pure UFC fighter.

I am amazed how many people choose Ngannou to win this fight. Wonder what they based on when them make such prediction. His UFC knockout highlights ? Cheesy

Weird that people dont understand how different boxing and mma is. In boxing a fighter can jab his opponent to death and would be a great fight. In mma, a fighter does this, he would either be finished by submission or booo'ed by crowd. The fact that Fury does not have a huge collection of knockouts, he is way better than Ngannou.

Lolol they prolly symphatize for him for how badly he was treated by Dana White and the UFC. Cheesy

There could also be more secret MMA fans here at BCT than we think and they're quietly voting for our guy Ngannou... Cheesy

Seriously tho, Ngannou has a puncher's chance. More so at the early rounds. But after around R3, he'll start to fade and Fury will take over and win. So a live bet for Fury is prolly the best way to go about this. Hopefully Ngannou makes it competitive at the first couple of rounds or even get a KD.

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It's good that Francis is finally given a huge fight after leaving UFC. Francis deserves a mega-fight. But in this one, I am with Tyson Fury. Francis may have a background in boxing but I am almost sure that it isn't sufficient to claim victory against a very brilliant heavyweight.

Francis may throw strong wallops and haymakers, but this is boxing. Even if one of those punches will bring down Fury, he will be given a 10-second count. This isn't UFC that once an opponent is down, he could immediately jump right onto him and smash his face instantly. Fury quickly recovers.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 27, 2023, 06:17:29 AM

Quote from: Natalim on July 27, 2023, 05:54:56 AM

Quote from: notblox1 on July 26, 2023, 03:56:27 PM

I am really surprised to see so many people voting for Francis Ngannou to win in this pool, it is 16-14 for Tyson Fury right now, much better odds than with bookmakers.
Question for all this guys who think Ngannou will win in this fight is are they ready place some money to back this up Wink

I dont know where Ngannou is now but his last statement is that Fury is underestimating his boxing skills.
Meanwhile Tyson Fury is now in Phuket, Thailand preparing for this fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDgA5a4_XMQ

True, many of us here chose Ngannou to win, despite him not being a boxing champion. Fury is the most popular in the heavyweight division now, and since they are boxing, it's more likely that Fury will win. As far as I remember, I have not seen a boxing champion lose to a UFC fighter in a match. Even Mayweather, who has already retired and only participates in exhibition fights, still wins because it's boxing.

You have give an example of a retired boxer vs other fighter in exhibition fight, but their fight is different. In fact, Ngannou fighting base is boxing. He has starting martial arts with boxing, so he isnt a pure UFC fighter.

I am amazed how many people choose Ngannou to win this fight. Wonder what they based on when them make such prediction. His UFC knockout highlights ? Cheesy

Weird that people dont understand how different boxing and mma is. In boxing a fighter can jab his opponent to death and would be a great fight. In mma, a fighter does this, he would either be finished by submission or booo'ed by crowd. The fact that Fury does not have a huge collection of knockouts, he is way better than Ngannou.

Those who choose Ngannou to win believe that he is capable of beating Fury. Although Fury is the majority's favorite, there are still a few who bet against him. In terms of skills, Ngannou is good, even though the fight will take place in Fury's playground. However, I'm sure the biggest factor that attracts them to bet on Ngannou is the betting odds.

Based on covers. , the odds are as follows.

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Favorite Odds Underdog Odds
Tyson Fury -1,000 Francis Ngannou +600

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Quote from: Natalim on July 27, 2023, 05:54:56 AM

Quote from: notblox1 on July 26, 2023, 03:56:27 PM

I am really surprised to see so many people voting for Francis Ngannou to win in this pool, it is 16-14 for Tyson Fury right now, much better odds than with bookmakers.
Question for all this guys who think Ngannou will win in this fight is are they ready place some money to back this up Wink

I dont know where Ngannou is now but his last statement is that Fury is underestimating his boxing skills.
Meanwhile Tyson Fury is now in Phuket, Thailand preparing for this fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDgA5a4_XMQ

True, many of us here chose Ngannou to win, despite him not being a boxing champion. Fury is the most popular in the heavyweight division now, and since they are boxing, it's more likely that Fury will win. As far as I remember, I have not seen a boxing champion lose to a UFC fighter in a match. Even Mayweather, who has already retired and only participates in exhibition fights, still wins because it's boxing.

You have give an example of a retired boxer vs other fighter in exhibition fight, but their fight is different. In fact, Ngannou fighting base is boxing. He has starting martial arts with boxing, so he isnt a pure UFC fighter.

I am amazed how many people choose Ngannou to win this fight. Wonder what they based on when them make such prediction. His UFC knockout highlights ? Cheesy

Weird that people dont understand how different boxing and mma is. In boxing a fighter can jab his opponent to death and would be a great fight. In mma, a fighter does this, he would either be finished by submission or booo'ed by crowd. The fact that Fury does not have a huge collection of knockouts, he is way better than Ngannou.

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Quote from: notblox1 on July 26, 2023, 03:56:27 PM

I am really surprised to see so many people voting for Francis Ngannou to win in this pool, it is 16-14 for Tyson Fury right now, much better odds than with bookmakers.
Question for all this guys who think Ngannou will win in this fight is are they ready place some money to back this up Wink

I dont know where Ngannou is now but his last statement is that Fury is underestimating his boxing skills.
Meanwhile Tyson Fury is now in Phuket, Thailand preparing for this fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDgA5a4_XMQ

True, many of us here chose Ngannou to win, despite him not being a boxing champion. Fury is the most popular in the heavyweight division now, and since they are boxing, it's more likely that Fury will win. As far as I remember, I have not seen a boxing champion lose to a UFC fighter in a match. Even Mayweather, who has already retired and only participates in exhibition fights, still wins because it's boxing.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 25, 2023, 09:23:33 AM

Quote from: bittraffic on July 22, 2023, 09:57:09 AM

One of them is gonna chicken out?
This fight is a done deal. Each of them is going to get a ton of cash no one is going to turn down the money that the Arabs are setting up for them. Only a handful of people expect Ngannou will win and I think he may not really win the fight but Ngannou wins against Dana. This was his real fight in the first place where he was belittled so he took a gamble on his career to which Francis got off UFC contract and got a better contract with PFL.

The main motive for this fight is money. And I think that none of these fighters are afraid of money, so the fight will take place Grin

As for Ngannou's chances, it's probably a lucky punch in the first or second round - he has no chance to outbox Fury + in each next round he will lose strength faster than Fury. So if he wants to at least try to win, he should immediately go into close range and trade blows (sounds funny for heavyweights hehe). Fury, on the contrary, must hold back the starting onslaught of Ngannou (and preferably without knocking him out so that the sheiks are satisfied with the long fight) and then simply realize his advantage.

Some bad blood's about to be brewed though I think. Fury's starting to talk smack about Francis Ngannou and he made a response about it saying "he's underestimating my boxing skills" or something along those lines, so this may become more personal than we may think. In any case I just hope they give us an entertaining fight that we'd be able to talk about for a while and not a sleeper few rounds knockout fiasco where the win is apparent right from the get-go. More people are choosing Francis right now which surprises me cause back in the first few days of this thread it's mostly Tyson believers, I wouldn't blame them though cause Francis is a really capable fighter, winning against Fury though is another question.

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