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Firstly, it's funny that since you don't understand why this word is used here
Stupid mystical explanations.

But be careful - if you continue like this, then I will apply your logic and announce that you are Russian and my fan  Grin
More stupid things coming from your mouth  Roll Eyes
You are the one who is writing russian in forum, not me  Grin
I am seriously starting to think if you are even human being, or just robot with algorithm made to write stupid posts.
I am done talking with you because I think you have problem in you head.
I hope you get well soon and get healthy.
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I’m sorry, but you follow the fan boy behavior pattern 100%: you don’t like my opinion and that’s why I suddenly became a Ukrainian and Usyk fan  Grin You made a mistake twice.
And by the way, I do not understand how you deny reality? There is already a fact that Fury shamefully refused to fight Usyk. This is a fact and not an opinion - what can be discussed here?
You are obviously not from Saudi Arabia or Papua New Guinea, and you know a lot about Usyk, Klitchko and other things from that region.
It is not me that keeps mentioning Usyk and he was not mentioned anywhere else by anyone in this topic.
If you want to talk about him just create new topic and glorify him more, maybe he sends you few local currencies as a gift  Grin

Judging by the fact that you continue to get personal and discuss me, and not the facts that Fury was running away from Klitschko, and then from Usyk, you admit that Fury is a serial coward. Great  Grin

Mystical?  Roll Eyes
I think you confused languages or your translator is not working correctly.
Another expert evidence showing that you know a lot about Klitschko asking for a rematch.

Mystical
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a: having a spiritual meaning or reality that is neither apparent to the senses nor obvious to the intelligence
the mystical food of the sacrament
b: involving or having the nature of an individual's direct subjective communion with God or ultimate reality
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mystical

Firstly, it's funny that since you don't understand why this word is used here, it means I'm right about the fact that you don't know how cowardly drug addict and lover of nandrolone Fury was doped through wild boar meat  Wink
Secondly, you can additionally look for my errors in punctuation or somewhere else. I see you have few arguments, but at least you try, good boy. But be careful - if you continue like this, then I will apply your logic and announce that you are Russian and my fan  Grin
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I personally would want to see an underdog story especially if the challenger is worth it, just like this one because Ngannou is not a push over.
We all probably seen those stories if you're around in the 80s - 90s era where there are challengers surfacing who would want to take their chance.
You are mentioning the underdog story of a boxer making a huge upset, Francis Ngannou is making his boxing debut. In MMA he is a force to recon as he has huge power, if you check out all his knockouts in MMA you will understand why he will not replicate the same in boxing especially against someone elite like Tyson Fury, who could read the punch coming from a mile Grin.
So, you mean that upsets are impossible to happen to a fight where the challenger is still making his boxing debut? I seriously think that it's not really limited to boxers who already have their own share of experience in this industry.

And while it is correct that Fury is an elite boxer, that is not a guarantee that it will be a walk in the park for him just because of the stated fact above. Francis Ngannou might have no experience in boxing professionally, but I still believe that he got a fair chance against Fury.
There is still some small element of upsets here, Mike Tyson during his prime was upset by Buster Douglas, it's not a lucky shot though, it is because Mike Tyson didn't train that hard in the gym but just casually go and not put 100% of his effort and then underestimate Douglas.

So if Fury will have that kind of mentality here, thinking that Francis is just a walk in the park for him because he is not a pure boxer but a MMA and trying to cross over, then it could be the same outcome.

Can't put all 4 different fighters in the same scenario, but nevertheless, Fury would never underestimate a fighter who has a lot of punching power, nobody does, because that's Ngannou's strength. However, with a thicker gloves it might cause him a bit of discomfort. There are actually a lot of disadvantages for Ngannou here causing him to reduce his chances to win, simply because MMA and Boxing are totally different combat sport, but then again we're not taking away the possibilities of an upset here.
Common scenario that would most likely to happen with this fight :
-Ngannou will have a hard time hitting Fury with a solid punch.
-Fury will use his reach advantage as he knows very well every corner of the ring.
-Ngannou will gas out in the middle of the scheduled number of rounds.
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There is still some small element of upsets here, Mike Tyson during his prime was upset by Buster Douglas, it's not a lucky shot though, it is because Mike Tyson didn't train that hard in the gym but just casually go and not put 100% of his effort and then underestimate Douglas.

So if Fury will have that kind of mentality here, thinking that Francis is just a walk in the park for him because he is not a pure boxer but a MMA and trying to cross over, then it could be the same outcome.
Expecting 100% performance from both fighters; no place for extraneous excuses; they put in the time and effort and are prepared to face the consequences of their actions. I give credit to Tyson Fury; Francis Ngannou is no match for him, and I predicted a straightforward victory. The boxing match would be rough in the ring; I can envision the worst thrashing lead by Tyson Fury; he's one of the few outstanding fighters, and I believe in his strengths. Perhaps if he underestimates his opponent, Francis Ngannou, who is rising through the ranks of boxing.

With Ngannou earning 8 FIGURES, he will definitely give his hundred percent in this fight because if he wins, there is another opportunity for him in the rematch. Ofc if he loses, he wouldn't get a rematch.

Just one hit, that's just what Ngannou needs to disrupt Fury and eventually KO him. It is harder in reality though. Fury is the champ, knows his trade who can outbox his opponent with one hand behind him.

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There is still some small element of upsets here, Mike Tyson during his prime was upset by Buster Douglas, it's not a lucky shot though, it is because Mike Tyson didn't train that hard in the gym but just casually go and not put 100% of his effort and then underestimate Douglas.

So if Fury will have that kind of mentality here, thinking that Francis is just a walk in the park for him because he is not a pure boxer but a MMA and trying to cross over, then it could be the same outcome.
Expecting 100% performance from both fighters; no place for extraneous excuses; they put in the time and effort and are prepared to face the consequences of their actions. I give credit to Tyson Fury; Francis Ngannou is no match for him, and I predicted a straightforward victory. The boxing match would be rough in the ring; I can envision the worst thrashing lead by Tyson Fury; he's one of the few outstanding fighters, and I believe in his strengths. Perhaps if he underestimates his opponent, Francis Ngannou, who is rising through the ranks of boxing.
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I personally would want to see an underdog story especially if the challenger is worth it, just like this one because Ngannou is not a push over.
We all probably seen those stories if you're around in the 80s - 90s era where there are challengers surfacing who would want to take their chance.
You are mentioning the underdog story of a boxer making a huge upset, Francis Ngannou is making his boxing debut. In MMA he is a force to recon as he has huge power, if you check out all his knockouts in MMA you will understand why he will not replicate the same in boxing especially against someone elite like Tyson Fury, who could read the punch coming from a mile Grin.
So, you mean that upsets are impossible to happen to a fight where the challenger is still making his boxing debut? I seriously think that it's not really limited to boxers who already have their own share of experience in this industry.

And while it is correct that Fury is an elite boxer, that is not a guarantee that it will be a walk in the park for him just because of the stated fact above. Francis Ngannou might have no experience in boxing professionally, but I still believe that he got a fair chance against Fury.
There is still some small element of upsets here, Mike Tyson during his prime was upset by Buster Douglas, it's not a lucky shot though, it is because Mike Tyson didn't train that hard in the gym but just casually go and not put 100% of his effort and then underestimate Douglas.

So if Fury will have that kind of mentality here, thinking that Francis is just a walk in the park for him because he is not a pure boxer but a MMA and trying to cross over, then it could be the same outcome.
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I’m sorry, but you follow the fan boy behavior pattern 100%: you don’t like my opinion and that’s why I suddenly became a Ukrainian and Usyk fan  Grin You made a mistake twice.
And by the way, I do not understand how you deny reality? There is already a fact that Fury shamefully refused to fight Usyk. This is a fact and not an opinion - what can be discussed here?
You are obviously not from Saudi Arabia or Papua New Guinea, and you know a lot about Usyk, Klitchko and other things from that region.
It is not me that keeps mentioning Usyk and he was not mentioned anywhere else by anyone in this topic.
If you want to talk about him just create new topic and glorify him more, maybe he sends you few local currencies as a gift  Grin

You probably haven’t heard anything about the mystical nandrolone that helped Fury win, but even if we discard this, Fury ran away like a coward from the rematch with Klitschko. Fury is a serial coward.  Grin
Mystical?  Roll Eyes
I think you confused languages or your translator is not working correctly.
Another expert evidence showing that you know a lot about Klitschko asking for a rematch.

Mystical
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a: having a spiritual meaning or reality that is neither apparent to the senses nor obvious to the intelligence
the mystical food of the sacrament
b: involving or having the nature of an individual's direct subjective communion with God or ultimate reality
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mystical
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I personally would want to see an underdog story especially if the challenger is worth it, just like this one because Ngannou is not a push over.
We all probably seen those stories if you're around in the 80s - 90s era where there are challengers surfacing who would want to take their chance.
You are mentioning the underdog story of a boxer making a huge upset, Francis Ngannou is making his boxing debut. In MMA he is a force to recon as he has huge power, if you check out all his knockouts in MMA you will understand why he will not replicate the same in boxing especially against someone elite like Tyson Fury, who could read the punch coming from a mile Grin.
So, you mean that upsets are impossible to happen to a fight where the challenger is still making his boxing debut? I seriously think that it's not really limited to boxers who already have their own share of experience in this industry.

And while it is correct that Fury is an elite boxer, that is not a guarantee that it will be a walk in the park for him just because of the stated fact above. Francis Ngannou might have no experience in boxing professionally, but I still believe that he got a fair chance against Fury.
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No problem bro. But Fury is a real coward (or did you miss the thread about the Usyk-Fury fight, which was not made just because of Fury's cowardice?) and whatever the final official status of the fight is, it will be an exhibition fight and nothing more.
It sounds to me like you are just but hurt fan boy of Oleksandr Usyk, maybe because you are both coming from the same country Grin
Fury never escaped fighting anyone in his life and I am 100% sure he would beat Usyk easy.
I am ready to make a public bet with you if that happens in future.

I’m sorry, but you follow the fan boy behavior pattern 100%: you don’t like my opinion and that’s why I suddenly became a Ukrainian and Usyk fan  Grin You made a mistake twice.
And by the way, I do not understand how you deny reality? There is already a fact that Fury shamefully refused to fight Usyk. This is a fact and not an opinion - what can be discussed here?

Hey you are the expert in cowardness not me  Cheesy
I didn't call anyone a coward, especially not heavyweight champion that beat another guy from the same country Klitschko few years ago.
He also beat Wilder and he was asking to fight Joshua so many times that I lost track.

You probably haven’t heard anything about the mystical nandrolone that helped Fury win, but even if we discard this, Fury ran away like a coward from the rematch with Klitschko. Fury is a serial coward.  Grin
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I guess it's all depend on who you are going to ask, Francis claim that title after he bolted out from Dana White and then join PFL. And now that came true as he will be fighting Tyson Fury in the square ring.

It's just business for Dana White, he just want to keep Francis with his UFC and so obviously he will object on the said fight. I guess it's different with the McGregor case, he can't really control Conor that time and we don't know what's the contract between him and UFC. But in here, Francis decided not to re-sign with Dana and so he is free is pursue his boxing career.
The fact is, Dana White lost Conor after fight with Floyd Mayweather. Conor never was the same Conor when he received such a big paycheck. He started to have fun, parties and as an athlete, his career went down. He had attempts to come back but as Khabib said, your prime comes only once, you can't go and come back and still expect prime.
McGregor was really a different from everyone, it's not that Dana couldn't control Conor, the fact is, Conor made UFC popular, Conor brought money there. Conor is gone and UFC loses popularity.

Conor is just favored by Dana. His contract is so much different from everyone else in UFC. Conor was given permission to fight Floyd while the rest can't fight outside UFC. Francis wants to fight outside UFC but Dana won't allow it. As far as I know, Dana was also objecting fighters to boxing against Jake Logan.

But boxing is just paying much compared to UFC which is the reason most of them will probably want to fight in boxing too just like Mcgregor.
I think because Conor had made UFC very popular that why he has a loose contract with UFC allowing him to do things. Conor throws bottles to the audience and Dana just shrugs his shoulders.
 
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I guess it's all depend on who you are going to ask, Francis claim that title after he bolted out from Dana White and then join PFL. And now that came true as he will be fighting Tyson Fury in the square ring.

It's just business for Dana White, he just want to keep Francis with his UFC and so obviously he will object on the said fight. I guess it's different with the McGregor case, he can't really control Conor that time and we don't know what's the contract between him and UFC. But in here, Francis decided not to re-sign with Dana and so he is free is pursue his boxing career.
The fact is, Dana White lost Conor after fight with Floyd Mayweather. Conor never was the same Conor when he received such a big paycheck. He started to have fun, parties and as an athlete, his career went down. He had attempts to come back but as Khabib said, your prime comes only once, you can't go and come back and still expect prime.
McGregor was really a different from everyone, it's not that Dana couldn't control Conor, the fact is, Conor made UFC popular, Conor brought money there. Conor is gone and UFC loses popularity.

Now its is not. People still buy PPV and tickets. People still watch it. Conor is still in UFC, even though he shows 0.01% of his past activity. Btw, Conor fought Mayweather after White allowed him, as well as he helped to promote that fight. Conors crucial moment was when he has sold his proper twelve shares and earned 600 millions. That is the moment when he got crazy and after the fight against Khabib he has stopped to be a mma fighter to me.
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I guess it's all depend on who you are going to ask, Francis claim that title after he bolted out from Dana White and then join PFL. And now that came true as he will be fighting Tyson Fury in the square ring.

It's just business for Dana White, he just want to keep Francis with his UFC and so obviously he will object on the said fight. I guess it's different with the McGregor case, he can't really control Conor that time and we don't know what's the contract between him and UFC. But in here, Francis decided not to re-sign with Dana and so he is free is pursue his boxing career.
The fact is, Dana White lost Conor after fight with Floyd Mayweather. Conor never was the same Conor when he received such a big paycheck. He started to have fun, parties and as an athlete, his career went down. He had attempts to come back but as Khabib said, your prime comes only once, you can't go and come back and still expect prime.
McGregor was really a different from everyone, it's not that Dana couldn't control Conor, the fact is, Conor made UFC popular, Conor brought money there. Conor is gone and UFC loses popularity.
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I just read that Ngannou's fight purse against Tyson Fury is around $8 Million which is similar to what UFC offered him to defend his title against Jon Jones. Huge leap from his last fight which reported to be around $600K so kudos for a getting a great deal even after all the fallout.
There was a lot of misreporting around the figure he got offered. That almost certainly wasn't for one fight but it will have been a very restrictive and multi-fight deal similar to what Jones got with his 8-fight deal.
I actually looked for more details into the contract offered. Francis was asked in an interview about the amount and he initially confirmed that the figure was around $8M for the Jon Jones fight. He was asked a follow-up question if it's one fight only or multi and he said he asked for 3 fights. I got confused there and I thought maybe he misunderstood the second question. You can listen to it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vngym7ChcM&t=8s Skip to around 13:15


I check the odds right now, and it seems that he is a huge underdog at 6:1.
Anyone here willing to put money on Francis with that odds?
Looks good to me. I'm waiting for special odds for Ngannou winning by KO within the first five rounds if possible. I think that's where he has the highest chance since the match is scheduled for 10 rounds. There's no way he could outlast Fury.


That contract was not signed because Francis was asking for something else like he could promote his own sponsors and fight in boxing as well. Dana was not open to such negotiation which Francis seem to have gambled. A lot in UFC really thought he fumbled the bag to which they suggest he should come back to the negotiation table and swallow the pride, one of them was DC. But now that Fury vs Francis is a done deal. They were actually sorry for doubting Francis. To Francis I think it doesn't really matter if he gets a boxing fight or if he loses his gamble, he was poor before UFC. It's not that he couldn't go back to digging dirt.

That PFL contract is also big for him. The contract made him very involved in PFL promotion.
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I just read that Ngannou's fight purse against Tyson Fury is around $8 Million which is similar to what UFC offered him to defend his title against Jon Jones. Huge leap from his last fight which reported to be around $600K so kudos for a getting a great deal even after all the fallout.
$600k is embarrassingly low amount for a heavyweight champion fighting for the most recognizable brand in combat sports. I knew the UFC underpaid its top fighters but that is just shocking to hear that his purse was so low. Even fighters who have never headlined a pay-per-view card, like Shakur Stevenson, can earn millions in boxing. No wonder so many MMA guys seem desperate to fight against boxers even when we know they don't have much of a chance to defeat top pound for pound stars.
Yes you are right that mate $600k is very small amount of money and we all know that both fighters are too popular which the boxing organization can earn a lot of money. And aside from the tickets being sold they can earn another amount once they will accept betting from another persons. And about the MMA fighter who will fight in the boxing then I don't think so if they have a high percentage of winning.
i saw a report Francis will get $30M and that's apart from the PPV pay. that's more than the money he got in his UFC compensation since the start. Francis comes from a very poor beginning, he used to work in a gravel mining company as far as he told the public.
but he did start a foundation afaik which he supported kids and created a school for them. $30M would really do good in Africa. hail to Francis.
This is what has been reported by alot of different sources so one of them has got to be correct, right? Cheesy

The guy had a very hard upbringing and worked in the mines digging dirt so his life story of rising the ranks into becoming the highest paid fighter in crossover superfight history of two different sports could be made into a movie.

Also as more time passes we do get more news confirming how the fight's results will come to be. An with the date coming closer we could see more changes made since it is Tyson Fury we are talking about who wants rules changed for his fights last minute. Remember his spat about not having the contract signed and made it very controversial about paying the other fighter because of that? He does strive on chaos this fighter.

The title will not be on the line for this fight and will be under the rules and regulations of where it is taking place in the middle east:
"Fury, the current WBC heavyweight champion, will not be defending his title in this bout. The clash will take place in the Middle East, just before Halloween. Ngannou, known for his dominance in the MMA world, relinquished his belt when he departed from the promotion for PFL earlier this year.

Although no titles will be at stake, the fight will be scored by three judges using the 10-point must system. Over ten rounds of three minutes each, the fighters will battle it out in the ring. While it remains uncertain whether the fight will be added to their professional records, the fact that it will be held in a regulation ring and overseen by the commission means it will essentially be considered a professional boxing match."
source: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/boxing/tyson-fury-vs-francis-ngannou-27303785

Not everybody is accepting why Tyson Fury took on this fight in the first place.
Quite an interesting read as it was up to his father to schedule this fight as it was with Wilder:
Fury vs Ngannou: Tyson Fury's father John Fury revealed why the 'Gypsy King' accepted to fight Francis Ngannou despite heavy backlash from boxing fans.
https://www.republicworld.com/sports-news/other-sports/john-fury-opens-up-on-why-the-gypsy-king-accepted-to-fight-ngannou-despite-backlash-articleshow.html
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I just read that Ngannou's fight purse against Tyson Fury is around $8 Million which is similar to what UFC offered him to defend his title against Jon Jones. Huge leap from his last fight which reported to be around $600K so kudos for a getting a great deal even after all the fallout.
There was a lot of misreporting around the figure he got offered. That almost certainly wasn't for one fight but it will have been a very restrictive and multi-fight deal similar to what Jones got with his 8-fight deal.
I actually looked for more details into the contract offered. Francis was asked in an interview about the amount and he initially confirmed that the figure was around $8M for the Jon Jones fight. He was asked a follow-up question if it's one fight only or multi and he said he asked for 3 fights. I got confused there and I thought maybe he misunderstood the second question. You can listen to it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vngym7ChcM&t=8s Skip to around 13:15


I check the odds right now, and it seems that he is a huge underdog at 6:1.

Anyone here willing to put money on Francis with that odds?
Looks good to me. I'm waiting for special odds for Ngannou winning by KO within the first five rounds if possible. I think that's where he has the highest chance since the match is scheduled for 10 rounds. There's no way he could outlast Fury.

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^ So it's 8 figure pay check not $8 Million, and it just proved that boxing is really a multi million dollar sports, just look at how much money Floyd and Canelo Alvarez as cash cow in boxing.

And it's really good to see the Francis Ngannou bold move to get out of UFC promotion has finally paying off with that big money in just one fight. Imagine if he would have that one lucky punch to put down Fury here and then bettors who put money on him as underdog.

Yes it is and that is something many of the fighters in the UFC are envious of, they cannot make that huge amount of money in just one fight, and if Ngannou had a good showing he'll have more fights coming, but I'm sure he will go back to MMA because this is where his training is, we also have to thank Tyson Fury for giving him a chance, I hope it will live up top expectation as the battle of the badest in the planet.
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Good for Francis Ngannou.

I check the odds right now, and it seems that he is a huge underdog at 6:1.

Anyone here willing to put money on Francis with that odds? Or as what we have seen, this is just a tune up match for Fury so it's better if we just wait or put or money on other boxing events in the HW division or any division for that matter?

Do you know the opponent on the other side is Tyson Fury?  I would not advise to risk your money against this man. He is not going to lose it. However, betting on Tyson Fury may not be much profitable because of the low odds.

Although some analysts think that the match will be head to head but i do not agree with them. Even though Francis Ngannou is former UFC champion you just cannot underestimate the "Gypsy King' Francis Ngannou vs Tyson Fury – possibility and comparison

Looking forward to this exhibition match in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
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Good for Francis Ngannou.

I check the odds right now, and it seems that he is a huge underdog at 6:1.

Anyone here willing to put money on Francis with that odds? Or as what we have seen, this is just a tune up match for Fury so it's better if we just wait or put or money on other boxing events in the HW division or any division for that matter?
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this is going to be a fight to find out who's the "Baddest Man on the Planet"
No, that fight is going to be between Tyson Fury and Jon Jones, not this one.

Great to see that Francis Ngannou was finally able to get a match up he is dreaming and after the fight he will understand why Dana White was not willing to make this fight happen  Cheesy.
At some point I thought that Dana White doesn't want this fight to happen because he will lose Ngannou after the paycheck like he lost McGregor after fight with Floyd but this can't be the reason because at the same time, he feels okay to let fight between Jon Jones and Fury to happen. But the difference with the last one is that Jon Jones vs Fury will be on UFC Octagon and this will bring tons of money to Dana White. I don't really know what's in his mind, all I can say for sure is that this man only thinks about money and if he is against something, that's because he is afraid that he will lose money, that's all, plain and simple.

I guess it's all depend on who you are going to ask, Francis claim that title after he bolted out from Dana White and then join PFL. And now that came true as he will be fighting Tyson Fury in the square ring.

It's just business for Dana White, he just want to keep Francis with his UFC and so obviously he will object on the said fight. I guess it's different with the McGregor case, he can't really control Conor that time and we don't know what's the contract between him and UFC. But in here, Francis decided not to re-sign with Dana and so he is free is pursue his boxing career.
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this is going to be a fight to find out who's the "Baddest Man on the Planet"
No, that fight is going to be between Tyson Fury and Jon Jones, not this one.

Great to see that Francis Ngannou was finally able to get a match up he is dreaming and after the fight he will understand why Dana White was not willing to make this fight happen  Cheesy.
At some point I thought that Dana White doesn't want this fight to happen because he will lose Ngannou after the paycheck like he lost McGregor after fight with Floyd but this can't be the reason because at the same time, he feels okay to let fight between Jon Jones and Fury to happen. But the difference with the last one is that Jon Jones vs Fury will be on UFC Octagon and this will bring tons of money to Dana White. I don't really know what's in his mind, all I can say for sure is that this man only thinks about money and if he is against something, that's because he is afraid that he will lose money, that's all, plain and simple.
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