Topic: Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28 - page 29. (Read 4008 times)

So, you mean that upsets are impossible to happen to a fight where the challenger is still making his boxing debut? I seriously think that it's not really limited to boxers who already have their own share of experience in this industry.

And while it is correct that Fury is an elite boxer, that is not a guarantee that it will be a walk in the park for him just because of the stated fact above. Francis Ngannou might have no experience in boxing professionally, but I still believe that he got a fair chance against Fury.

I’m sorry, but you follow the fan boy behavior pattern 100%: you don’t like my opinion and that’s why I suddenly became a Ukrainian and Usyk fan   You made a mistake twice.
And by the way, I do not understand how you deny reality? There is already a fact that Fury shamefully refused to fight Usyk. This is a fact and not an opinion - what can be discussed here?


You probably haven’t heard anything about the mystical nandrolone that helped Fury win, but even if we discard this, Fury ran away like a coward from the rematch with Klitschko. Fury is a serial coward.  

Conor is just favored by Dana. His contract is so much different from everyone else in UFC. Conor was given permission to fight Floyd while the rest can't fight outside UFC. Francis wants to fight outside UFC but Dana won't allow it. As far as I know, Dana was also objecting fighters to boxing against Jake Logan.

But boxing is just paying much compared to UFC which is the reason most of them will probably want to fight in boxing too just like Mcgregor.
I think because Conor had made UFC very popular that why he has a loose contract with UFC allowing him to do things. Conor throws bottles to the audience and Dana just shrugs his shoulders.
 

Now its is not. People still buy PPV and tickets. People still watch it. Conor is still in UFC, even though he shows 0.01% of his past activity. Btw, Conor fought Mayweather after White allowed him, as well as he helped to promote that fight. Conors crucial moment was when he has sold his proper twelve shares and earned 600 millions. That is the moment when he got crazy and after the fight against Khabib he has stopped to be a mma fighter to me.

The fact is, Dana White lost Conor after fight with Floyd Mayweather. Conor never was the same Conor when he received such a big paycheck. He started to have fun, parties and as an athlete, his career went down. He had attempts to come back but as Khabib said, your prime comes only once, you can't go and come back and still expect prime.
McGregor was really a different from everyone, it's not that Dana couldn't control Conor, the fact is, Conor made UFC popular, Conor brought money there. Conor is gone and UFC loses popularity.

That contract was not signed because Francis was asking for something else like he could promote his own sponsors and fight in boxing as well. Dana was not open to such negotiation which Francis seem to have gambled. A lot in UFC really thought he fumbled the bag to which they suggest he should come back to the negotiation table and swallow the pride, one of them was DC. But now that Fury vs Francis is a done deal. They were actually sorry for doubting Francis. To Francis I think it doesn't really matter if he gets a boxing fight or if he loses his gamble, he was poor before UFC. It's not that he couldn't go back to digging dirt.

That PFL contract is also big for him. The contract made him very involved in PFL promotion.

This is what has been reported by alot of different sources so one of them has got to be correct, right?

The guy had a very hard upbringing and worked in the mines digging dirt so his life story of rising the ranks into becoming the highest paid fighter in crossover superfight history of two different sports could be made into a movie.

Also as more time passes we do get more news confirming how the fight's results will come to be. An with the date coming closer we could see more changes made since it is Tyson Fury we are talking about who wants rules changed for his fights last minute. Remember his spat about not having the contract signed and made it very controversial about paying the other fighter because of that? He does strive on chaos this fighter.

The title will not be on the line for this fight and will be under the rules and regulations of where it is taking place in the middle east:
"Fury, the current WBC heavyweight champion, will not be defending his title in this bout. The clash will take place in the Middle East, just before Halloween. Ngannou, known for his dominance in the MMA world, relinquished his belt when he departed from the promotion for PFL earlier this year.

Although no titles will be at stake, the fight will be scored by three judges using the 10-point must system. Over ten rounds of three minutes each, the fighters will battle it out in the ring. While it remains uncertain whether the fight will be added to their professional records, the fact that it will be held in a regulation ring and overseen by the commission means it will essentially be considered a professional boxing match."
source: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/boxing/tyson-fury-vs-francis-ngannou-27303785

Not everybody is accepting why Tyson Fury took on this fight in the first place.
Quite an interesting read as it was up to his father to schedule this fight as it was with Wilder:
Fury vs Ngannou: Tyson Fury's father John Fury revealed why the 'Gypsy King' accepted to fight Francis Ngannou despite heavy backlash from boxing fans.
https://www.republicworld.com/sports-news/other-sports/john-fury-opens-up-on-why-the-gypsy-king-accepted-to-fight-ngannou-despite-backlash-articleshow.html

I actually looked for more details into the contract offered. Francis was asked in an interview about the amount and he initially confirmed that the figure was around $8M for the Jon Jones fight. He was asked a follow-up question if it's one fight only or multi and he said he asked for 3 fights. I got confused there and I thought maybe he misunderstood the second question. You can listen to it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vngym7ChcM&t=8s Skip to around 13:15

Looks good to me. I'm waiting for special odds for Ngannou winning by KO within the first five rounds if possible. I think that's where he has the highest chance since the match is scheduled for 10 rounds. There's no way he could outlast Fury.

Yes it is and that is something many of the fighters in the UFC are envious of, they cannot make that huge amount of money in just one fight, and if Ngannou had a good showing he'll have more fights coming, but I'm sure he will go back to MMA because this is where his training is, we also have to thank Tyson Fury for giving him a chance, I hope it will live up top expectation as the battle of the badest in the planet.

Do you know the opponent on the other side is Tyson Fury?  I would not advise to risk your money against this man. He is not going to lose it. However, betting on Tyson Fury may not be much profitable because of the low odds.

Although some analysts think that the match will be head to head but i do not agree with them. Even though Francis Ngannou is former UFC champion you just cannot underestimate the "Gypsy King' Francis Ngannou vs Tyson Fury – possibility and comparison

Looking forward to this exhibition match in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.

Good for Francis Ngannou.

I check the odds right now, and it seems that he is a huge underdog at 6:1.

Anyone here willing to put money on Francis with that odds? Or as what we have seen, this is just a tune up match for Fury so it's better if we just wait or put or money on other boxing events in the HW division or any division for that matter?

I guess it's all depend on who you are going to ask, Francis claim that title after he bolted out from Dana White and then join PFL. And now that came true as he will be fighting Tyson Fury in the square ring.

It's just business for Dana White, he just want to keep Francis with his UFC and so obviously he will object on the said fight. I guess it's different with the McGregor case, he can't really control Conor that time and we don't know what's the contract between him and UFC. But in here, Francis decided not to re-sign with Dana and so he is free is pursue his boxing career.

No, that fight is going to be between Tyson Fury and Jon Jones, not this one.

At some point I thought that Dana White doesn't want this fight to happen because he will lose Ngannou after the paycheck like he lost McGregor after fight with Floyd but this can't be the reason because at the same time, he feels okay to let fight between Jon Jones and Fury to happen. But the difference with the last one is that Jon Jones vs Fury will be on UFC Octagon and this will bring tons of money to Dana White. I don't really know what's in his mind, all I can say for sure is that this man only thinks about money and if he is against something, that's because he is afraid that he will lose money, that's all, plain and simple.

^ So it's 8 figure pay check not $8 Million, and it just proved that boxing is really a multi million dollar sports, just look at how much money Floyd and Canelo Alvarez as cash cow in boxing.

And it's really good to see the Francis Ngannou bold move to get out of UFC promotion has finally paying off with that big money in just one fight. Imagine if he would have that one lucky punch to put down Fury here and then bettors who put money on him as underdog.

I would like to correct myself it's not $8 million but it's $10 million it is 8 figures and that will make it $10 million that's according to Jake Paul's Tweet and I agree with Jake Paul he deserves every bit of it he earn his way to fight Fury and earn that amount.

It sounds to me like you are just but hurt fan boy of Oleksandr Usyk, maybe because you are both coming from the same country
Fury never escaped fighting anyone in his life and I am 100% sure he would beat Usyk easy.
I am ready to make a public bet with you if that happens in future.

Hey you are the expert in cowardness not me 
I didn't call anyone a coward, especially not heavyweight champion that beat another guy from the same country Klitschko few years ago.
He also beat Wilder and he was asking to fight Joshua so many times that I lost track.

The same speculation was done in Conor vs Floyd fight, many of those guys are not expecting Conor to win and they were right about it. But Conor did throw some good shots at Floyd which they thought he can't hit Floyd. If Ngannou can also replicate a KO punch he did on UFC fighters, he might be able to do damage. The question is if it can KO Fury, It's highly unlikely but Wilder did it, it's just one tiny chance and that kind of Wilder chance is what Ngannou needs to win the fight.

Fury does a lot of head movement and the gloves in boxing might give a problem to Ngannou as it's heavier which takes a lot of getting used to.

He could've made the same money if he agreed and defended his title of being the heavyweight champion against Jon Jones because that fight is also a whopping $8 Million, but for some reasons, that fight did not materialize as both camps including Dana White didn't agree on something to make the fight into a reality.

Some sources say that Ngannou's camp is not interested to a cross-promotion fight that is why the fight did not happen but their camp is always welcome to start another negotiation after Ngannou's professional boxing bout against Tyson Fury in Saudi Arabia. But hopefully, that $8 Million will remain as is because Ngannou will not extend their hand if that amount will be smaller in the following months.

You are mentioning the underdog story of a boxer making a huge upset, Francis Ngannou is making his boxing debut. In MMA he is a force to recon as he has huge power, if you check out all his knockouts in MMA you will understand why he will not replicate the same in boxing especially against someone elite like Tyson Fury, who could read the punch coming from a mile .


He made a million plus in that fight, $600k was the guaranteed purse and not his overall money he made in that fight.


Tyson Fury is considered as the best boxer in the modern era and he is considered as a legend of the sport, going to Germany to face the undefeated Wladimir Klitschko as a heavy underdog and winning the belt, then going through depression and drug addiction and even trying to kill himself and gaining over 400 pounds and then making a return, going to US and facing Deontay Wilder who everyone considers the best knockout boxer in history as an underdog and winning and he is still undefeated and no other boxer you mentioned in history can claim that other than Rocky Marciano .

Going by what you said it seems like it is not an exhibition fight but if a title is not on the line it creates problems because only the WBC recognise it as a non-title professional fight. That means the WBO, WBA and IBF do not at the moment recognise it. If Fury wins (as expected) the WBC will consider it as another victory or if things go wrong it will be his first loss but either way the other 3 major belts will not recognise the result.

Fury should have done his best to get the Usyk fight over the line, I have no idea why the WBC is allowing this fight to go ahead without stripping Fury of his title, surely he should fight the number one WBC contender and if that fails he should fight the number two or three.