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Quote from: KTChampions on July 14, 2023, 10:44:25 AM

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Everything is clear with him, but to whom this clowning might be interesting, I don’t understand? If the fight would be according to the rules of the MMA, then it might be interesting, but a fight by the rules of boxing with someone who has not had a single fight in boxing is of no interest.

Francis Ngannou is looking for a high profile Boxing fight for a while and he has got his chance and hopefully learn a lesson or two with this bout Cheesy

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Ngannou does not have a boxing license (as far as I know) and will not be able to get one. In addition, under the auspices of which boxing organization will this fight take place? I didn't find any information about it.

It will be a professional bout but the WBC belt wont be in the line for this bout as Francis Ngannou does not meet their criteria and since the match will be held in Saudi Arabia, Middle East Professional Boxing Commission will be providing the license.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on July 14, 2023, 10:57:59 AM

I read it will be a real fight, not an exhibition. They did not state how many rounds it is scheduled for. I don’t think it will go the full distance regardless if it's 6 or 8 or 10 rounds. Two big, powerful hitters, we could easily see a knockout.

Fury's WBC belt will not be on the line for the winner. This is definitely the right decision since it is Ngannou‘s very first boxing match

That's more like it because it will be just a pure circus act if the fight is an exhibition but since the WBC belt is on the line, we can expect a much interesting fight because Francis Ngannou is known to be true in his fights, he doesn't want to receive a huge sum in-exchange for a circus because for him, it will be an honor to entertain the fans whether if it's his or Fury's.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on July 14, 2023, 10:57:59 AM

I read it will be a real fight, not an exhibition. They did not state how many rounds it is scheduled for. I don’t think it will go the full distance regardless if it's 6 or 8 or 10 rounds. Two big, powerful hitters, we could easily see a knockout.

Fury's WBC belt will not be on the line for the winner. This is definitely the right decision since it is Ngannou‘s very first boxing match

I also thought it was an exhibition match but the fight was said to have normal boxing rules which there could be a KO and will go into their boxing records.
It was said to be 10 rounds but yep you're right that it may not really go the distance, 3 rounds is a bit long fight and fatigue is common for first-timers like Ngannou. Theres still 3 months to be trained though.

Quote from: KTChampions on July 14, 2023, 10:44:25 AM

The cowardly degenerate Fury quickly degraded to exhibition fights, lol.
Everything is clear with him, but to whom this clowning might be interesting, I don’t understand? If the fight would be according to the rules of the MMA, then it might be interesting, but a fight by the rules of boxing with someone who has not had a single fight in boxing is of no interest.
I’m even too lazy to look at bookmakers’ quotes, I’m sure that there will be something like 1.01 for Fury to win.

WBC permitted Fury for this fight and the Saudis are pushing for the fight. It's not just the money that made Fury decide, who knows what the story behind closed doors. Saudis are powerful and can make things happen.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on July 14, 2023, 10:57:59 AM

I read it will be a real fight, not an exhibition. They did not state how many rounds it is scheduled for. I don’t think it will go the full distance regardless if it's 6 or 8 or 10 rounds. Two big, powerful hitters, we could easily see a knockout.

Fury's WBC belt will not be on the line for the winner. This is definitely the right decision since it is Ngannou‘s very first boxing match

Ngannou does not have a boxing license (as far as I know) and will not be able to get one. In addition, under the auspices of which boxing organization will this fight take place? I didn't find any information about it.
But even if we assume that suddenly this fight will become official (0 chances), we all understand that this is nothing more than an exhibition fight. I understand very well why Ngannou needs it - he will earn more for this fight than in his entire career at the UFC (LOOOOL), with Fury everything is also clear, but very shameful.

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I read it will be a real fight, not an exhibition. They did not state how many rounds it is scheduled for. I don’t think it will go the full distance regardless if it's 6 or 8 or 10 rounds. Two big, powerful hitters, we could easily see a knockout.

Fury's WBC belt will not be on the line for the winner. This is definitely the right decision since it is Ngannou‘s very first boxing match

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The cowardly degenerate Fury quickly degraded to exhibition fights, lol.
Everything is clear with him, but to whom this clowning might be interesting, I don’t understand? If the fight would be according to the rules of the MMA, then it might be interesting, but a fight by the rules of boxing with someone who has not had a single fight in boxing is of no interest.
I’m even too lazy to look at bookmakers’ quotes, I’m sure that there will be something like 1.01 for Fury to win.

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Quote from: Yogee on July 14, 2023, 10:01:52 AM

I just read that Ngannou's fight purse against Tyson Fury is around $8 Million which is similar to what UFC offered him to defend his title against Jon Jones. Huge leap from his last fight which reported to be around $600K so kudos for a getting a great deal even after all the fallout.

Yes, facts! Nobody know what is the real reason behind why Francis Ngannou rejected an $8 Million offer from Dana White to defend his belt against Jon Jones because that could've been his biggest paycheck in his career if he chose to fight in UFC 285, what we know was that the negotiations failed because both camps did not agree on something and afterwards, Ngannou vacated his belt as he go to the free agency. But it looks like that he will still have that money now as he is scheduled to fight Tyson Fury.

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I was wondering how this could happen but I now understand after reading Ngannou's flexible contract with PFL. This is probably the biggest payday in his career so good job to his manager or promoter for making it happen.

There is no problem at all if he will fight inside the boxing industry because his camp and UFC (Dana White) has failed to come into a deal to renew his contract, so now, he got his own freedom without disrespecting anyone or any organization.

Well that should be obvious since he's no longer in the UFC but what I'm talking about is his contract with another MMA organization which is PFL. He recently signed with them but part of the stipulation is that he's allowed to fight outside and that's Fury in this case.

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I just read that Ngannou's fight purse against Tyson Fury is around $8 Million which is similar to what UFC offered him to defend his title against Jon Jones. Huge leap from his last fight which reported to be around $600K so kudos for a getting a great deal even after all the fallout.

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But yeah... I'm rooting for Ngannou to win and get the upset. Lol. I think that would for sure be the most entertaining result even for boxing fans. Everybody loves an underdog.

You will be wasting your money betting on him to win, but it is possible for him to shock down Fury in one or two first rounds.
Nobody was able to beat Fury and that wont be any MMA fighter, and I am saying this with big respect for Ngannou.
Fury is smarter fighter and that is going to win this fight, not just power of strikes.

For sure it's a long shot and I'd just be giving away my BTC but I usually just make small bets for the lulz. If Ngannou via KO is lined at 10.00, I bet 20 bucks and win 200. I'd say that's a fair value bet because think about it, if Fury and Ngannou fought 10 times Ngannou could get lucky once out of 10 times. So at those odds, I won't mind taking it. But we'll see. Props won't be online til days before the event.

I think Ngannou R1 or R2 as hilarious suggested would be good value bets too imho. You just can't count the powerrr in those hands out.

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Quote from: notblox1 on July 13, 2023, 04:05:06 PM

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But yeah... I'm rooting for Ngannou to win and get the upset. Lol. I think that would for sure be the most entertaining result even for boxing fans. Everybody loves an underdog.

You will be wasting your money betting on him to win, but it is possible for him to shock down Fury in one or two first rounds.
Nobody was able to beat Fury and that wont be any MMA fighter, and I am saying this with big respect for Ngannou.
Fury is smarter fighter and that is going to win this fight, not just power of strikes.

We only have to take a look at both Fury and Ngannou's fights to tell that Ngannou has very slim chance of winning. He's got strong punches in both hands but those are very heavy hands. Can he still throw them with equal efficiency in round 4 and later rounds? I also didn't see Ngannou showing some nice dancing footwork like Fury's. And while I saw Ngannou setting up with a nice jab, how many boxing combinations does he actually have in his arsenal?

It's hard to make a good assessment of Ngannou's overall boxing skills when all of his knockout wins happened in either round 1 or 2, but in his only 2 fights that lasted for 5 rounds, we saw him badly running out of gas he could barely take a step or throw a punch. He's probably dangerous only in the first couple of rounds. But I can see Fury easily surviving, and probably outscoring, Francis in those two rounds.

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I never think that Tyson is going to win and he always seems to. I saw a sports science episode where they showed that he has super human reaction times that help him dodge and counter punches at a level other boxers can’t compete with. I’ve never watched one of his fights closely, so I may have to pay attention to this one.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on July 13, 2023, 04:56:24 PM

Win or lose, Ngannou is already a winner when it comes to his purse earnings for this fight.
It maybe a cherry pick for Fury, but who knows, Ngannou will show a toe-to-toe fight because he wants to show a good one.
At least, not give disappointment to boxing fans, and maybe, get another good fight in the boxing sports.
Clearly, Fury is the favorite here. But we can't totally disregard the possibility of upset.
But I am happy for Ngannou here, earning good amount of money in boxing in just one fight as compared to all the years of his hard work on his UFC career

If Ngannou can make a good showing here he can shift from boxing to MMA every time but if he beats Fury then the whole landscape will totally change because so far all the MMA that made a shift to boxing only Silva made it by beating Chavez Jr., I will never rule out Ngannou a fighter with a knockout puncher like Ngannou always have a chance I wonder how much money Ngannou is making on this fight it should be huge and much better than what he received in UFC during his stint.

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Quote from: robelneo on July 11, 2023, 05:10:19 PM

It's finally happening I just knew it was going to happen after the Usyk negotiation collapsed, Joshua and another Wilder fight are not attractive and profitable, he's been talking about this option and Ngannou is very much willing to sit down and have it done, both fighters have very long inactivity but that doesn't mean that both fighters cannot give us an entertaining fight.
I'm sure Fury will get the biggest share of the deal since he is the champion and the one that will attract attention since this is a boxing match Fury will be the overwhelming favorite because Ngannou's expertise inside the ring is more on grappling and he lacks ring generalship in boxing because we all know MMA fighters are flatfooted.
I can't wait to see the media promotion it is going to be Fury all over and will do all the talking just like he always does in all his previous fights

News has it that Francis Ngannou will be paid more for his Tyson Fury clash. Not as you might have assumed(Tyson Fury having the biggest share).

The amount of money to be given to Francis Ngannou at the end of the clash will be bigger than all the UFC fight combined. That's the funniest part of it.

Whether Tyson Fury beats Francis Ngannou in 3rd or 4th around of the clash as the champion of boxing, Francis Ngannou will still walk away with a large sum of money, more than all of the UFC fights combined, according to Francis Ngannou's management.
Link source: https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1496508/francis-ngannou-paid-tyson-fury-ufc-fight/amp/

I read somewhere it's 50M guaranteed for Fury and 20M for Ngannou. This is besides the money to be earned AFAIK. 20M is more than the amount of money that Ngannou earn in all his UFC career. So even if he loses this fight, it is way worth it for first timer boxer.

And it could be right that he may not win actually. Fury is a champ in the heavyweight division and has all the skills to outsmart Ngannou. His footwork alone will not give Ngannou any advantage. Ngannou has a lot to learn but its good that the schedule is still months away.

Win or lose, Ngannou is already a winner when it comes to his purse earnings for this fight.
It maybe a cherry pick for Fury, but who knows, Ngannou will show a toe-to-toe fight because he wants to show a good one.
At least, not give disappointment to boxing fans, and maybe, get another good fight in the boxing sports.
Clearly, Fury is the favorite here. But we can't totally disregard the possibility of upset.
But I am happy for Ngannou here, earning good amount of money in boxing in just one fight as compared to all the years of his hard work on his UFC career

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I wonder how high the Ngannou via KO prop will be lined at. Grin

If Fury is lined at 1.11 to win the match then that could mean Ngannou could be lined around 8.00 - 9.00? So his KO prop would prolly be lined at around 12.00 - 15.00. I'd say that's a good value bet if you're for Ngannou.

But yeah... I'm rooting for Ngannou to win and get the upset. Lol. I think that would for sure be the most entertaining result even for boxing fans. Everybody loves an underdog.

Yeah. Fury is due a humbling too. I will for sure put on some bets for Ngannou to win by KO or maybe even first round KO if the odds are good.

Wow, I'm surprised that you have faith in Ngannou to win by KO. While he is undoubtedly talented, personally, I would be cautious about betting against a legitimate boxing champion. I wouldn't be attracted to taking that risk, even if the KO prop odds are around 12.00-15.00. Instead, I would be interested to know the KO prop for Fury to win by first-round KO.

There is that factor too that makes us hard to bet against a legitimate boxer over an MMA fighter, but I guess in this instance I can make an exception, since Ngannou is that kind of fighter who is focusing more on his punches rather than combinations that are used fairly in MMA because they have a different set of rules.

I can say that Ngannou got a fair chance in defeating Tyson fury because it will be a battle of brute strength inside their punches and whoever lands the perfect punch will win for sure. A KO win is more likely.

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Quote from: tokeweed on July 12, 2023, 05:18:05 PM

But yeah... I'm rooting for Ngannou to win and get the upset. Lol. I think that would for sure be the most entertaining result even for boxing fans. Everybody loves an underdog.

You will be wasting your money betting on him to win, but it is possible for him to shock down Fury in one or two first rounds.
Nobody was able to beat Fury and that wont be any MMA fighter, and I am saying this with big respect for Ngannou.
Fury is smarter fighter and that is going to win this fight, not just power of strikes.

Quote from: hilariousandco on July 13, 2023, 02:52:27 AM

Ngannou's story is far more worthy of a biopic.

He didnt have a big fall after being heavyweight champion that turned into fat drunk and high suicidal maniac.
Going back to childhood, Fury family is from the long line of gipsy travelers

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Quote from: Marykeller on July 13, 2023, 01:20:02 PM

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It's finally happening I just knew it was going to happen after the Usyk negotiation collapsed, Joshua and another Wilder fight are not attractive and profitable, he's been talking about this option and Ngannou is very much willing to sit down and have it done, both fighters have very long inactivity but that doesn't mean that both fighters cannot give us an entertaining fight.
I'm sure Fury will get the biggest share of the deal since he is the champion and the one that will attract attention since this is a boxing match Fury will be the overwhelming favorite because Ngannou's expertise inside the ring is more on grappling and he lacks ring generalship in boxing because we all know MMA fighters are flatfooted.
I can't wait to see the media promotion it is going to be Fury all over and will do all the talking just like he always does in all his previous fights

News has it that Francis Ngannou will be paid more for his Tyson Fury clash. Not as you might have assumed(Tyson Fury having the biggest share).

The amount of money to be given to Francis Ngannou at the end of the clash will be bigger than all the UFC fight combined. That's the funniest part of it.

Whether Tyson Fury beats Francis Ngannou in 3rd or 4th around of the clash as the champion of boxing, Francis Ngannou will still walk away with a large sum of money, more than all of the UFC fights combined, according to Francis Ngannou's management.
Link source: https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1496508/francis-ngannou-paid-tyson-fury-ufc-fight/amp/

I read somewhere it's 50M guaranteed for Fury and 20M for Ngannou. This is besides the money to be earned AFAIK. 20M is more than the amount of money that Ngannou earn in all his UFC career. So even if he loses this fight, it is way worth it for first timer boxer.

And it could be right that he may not win actually. Fury is a champ in the heavyweight division and has all the skills to outsmart Ngannou. His footwork alone will not give Ngannou any advantage. Ngannou has a lot to learn but its good that the schedule is still months away.

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Quote from: robelneo on July 11, 2023, 05:10:19 PM

It's finally happening I just knew it was going to happen after the Usyk negotiation collapsed, Joshua and another Wilder fight are not attractive and profitable, he's been talking about this option and Ngannou is very much willing to sit down and have it done, both fighters have very long inactivity but that doesn't mean that both fighters cannot give us an entertaining fight.
I'm sure Fury will get the biggest share of the deal since he is the champion and the one that will attract attention since this is a boxing match Fury will be the overwhelming favorite because Ngannou's expertise inside the ring is more on grappling and he lacks ring generalship in boxing because we all know MMA fighters are flatfooted.
I can't wait to see the media promotion it is going to be Fury all over and will do all the talking just like he always does in all his previous fights

News has it that Francis Ngannou will be paid more for his Tyson Fury clash. Not as you might have assumed(Tyson Fury having the biggest share).

The amount of money to be given to Francis Ngannou at the end of the clash will be bigger than all the UFC fight combined. That's the funniest part of it.

Whether Tyson Fury beats Francis Ngannou in 3rd or 4th around of the clash as the champion of boxing, Francis Ngannou will still walk away with a large sum of money, more than all of the UFC fights combined, according to Francis Ngannou's management.
Link source: https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1496508/francis-ngannou-paid-tyson-fury-ufc-fight/amp/

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Quote from: Coin_trader on July 13, 2023, 11:46:59 AM

No doubt about explosiveness of Ngannou since his punch is like bomb explode if received directly proven on his past matches. The only downside I’m thinking about this match for him is the stamina and rule adjustment since he is used to be on a pure brawl and overwhelmed his opponent through his huge body frame. I wonder how far he can last against Gypsy king that is very slipperyon close fight and has a very high stamina.

Connor show the lack of stamina when he fight Mayweather even he is on his prime that time. This is heavy weight match which means players is expected to have less stamina. I will bet for Ngannou if he can end this on few rounds.

I doubt Francis will go the full distance and I doubt Fury will win by KO so it's either a ref stoppage for Fury or Francis KO for me. I'm sure Francis is working on his cardio though to try make sure he can go the distance. I think Francis' game plan will be to come out swinging and hope to smother him earlier on. If that doesn't work Tyson will pick him apart with his superior boxing skills and probably tire him out before the end of the fight.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on July 13, 2023, 11:46:59 AM

No doubt about explosiveness of Ngannou since his punch is like bomb explode if received directly proven on his past matches. The only downside I’m thinking about this match for him is the stamina and rule adjustment since he is used to be on a pure brawl and overwhelmed his opponent through his huge body frame. I wonder how far he can last against Gypsy king that is very slipperyon close fight and has a very high stamina.

Connor show the lack of stamina when he fight Mayweather even he is on his prime that time. This is heavy weight match which means players is expected to have less stamina. I will bet for Ngannou if he can end this on few rounds.

Tyson fury can get into this fight with the strategy to get Ngannou tired before he can have the opportunity to throw his killer punch to Fury. Fury has a lot of experience and has faced many tough fighters like Ngannou, so he likely has a working strategy to defeat this kind of fighters. For Ngannou, I am not so sure that he has met fighters as tough as Fury, he will likely be defeated for his lack of experience. Tyson fury will have my bet to win this fight in October.

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I wonder how high the Ngannou via KO prop will be lined at. Grin

If Fury is lined at 1.11 to win the match then that could mean Ngannou could be lined around 8.00 - 9.00? So his KO prop would prolly be lined at around 12.00 - 15.00. I'd say that's a good value bet if you're for Ngannou.

But yeah... I'm rooting for Ngannou to win and get the upset. Lol. I think that would for sure be the most entertaining result even for boxing fans. Everybody loves an underdog.

Yeah. Fury is due a humbling too. I will for sure put on some bets for Ngannou to win by KO or maybe even first round KO if the odds are good.

Wow, I'm surprised that you have faith in Ngannou to win by KO. While he is undoubtedly talented, personally, I would be cautious about betting against a legitimate boxing champion. I wouldn't be attracted to taking that risk, even if the KO prop odds are around 12.00-15.00. Instead, I would be interested to know the KO prop for Fury to win by first-round KO.

He can knock out anyone on the planet and has the world record for hardest punch. I'm not saying he will KO Tyson but I think the possibility is very much there. Just watch his knockouts on youtube. This is one of my faves and the music weirdly fits it perfectly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpm2BSPm4Fo

You have to watch it in slow-mo because it's just too fast in real time. Any one of those punches would have been an instant KO but it was still the weakest one that landed that knocked him out. Tyson won't be able to avoid them all for the full match. I think this could be a similar fight to Wilder. Wilder isn't the best boxer but just goes for the kill by swinging bombs and hoping they connect. Wilder even started late in boxing at 20 years old. I think Wilder is obviously better boxer than Francis but Ngannou is an even bigger puncher so if Wilder can floor Fury then so should Francis and that's why it's an exciting fight for me.

No doubt about explosiveness of Ngannou since his punch is like bomb explode if received directly proven on his past matches. The only downside I’m thinking about this match for him is the stamina and rule adjustment since he is used to be on a pure brawl and overwhelmed his opponent through his huge body frame. I wonder how far he can last against Gypsy king that is very slipperyon close fight and has a very high stamina.

Connor show the lack of stamina when he fight Mayweather even he is on his prime that time. This is heavy weight match which means players is expected to have less stamina. I will bet for Ngannou if he can end this on few rounds.

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