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The performance of real madrid in UCL is far different compared in the league. it's caused by ancelotti is still trying to keep the chance to win UCL trophy become as big as possible. UCL trophy is far important for real madrid compared with the domestic league. It's caused by winning UCL will make the club to get UCL spot for next season. Real madrid was not also using full squads in the domestic league. It can be seen from the line up against girona.

Real madrid used full squads against almeria while almeria was using fully defensive strategy. Benzema was maing hatrick against almeria which is good.
It is not possible to use the performance in the domestic league as a good parameter to determine the result in UCL. I just try to understand if ancelotti knows everything what we didn't know.
I understand that UCL may give a lot more money and Real Madrid is a team that cares about continental cups more than they care about the league, that is understandable, they were even head of the super league they were trying to build, that made sense to a point because they really care about that. So all in all I believe that Real can care about the UCL result more than domestic league, that part is understandable.

However, we need to also remember that losing the league is one thing, but if they become third that would be terrible for them, it's a result they can't really accept. They need to be either first or second, anything else is a fail, and if they become third AND lose UCL title as well, that's a terrible season without a doubt and it could potentially happen.
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Real madrid has so many experiences back. The defenders like rudiger are also having so many experiences in UCL. He has been winning UCL with chelsea too. Putting madrid as nonfavored club might be a wrong decision.

It's hard to guess the final result later. They are just as strong, they have excellent stats. Although I support Real Madrid, I also have doubts. The reason is because Man City were very strong today. They have an incredible Haaland. Pep and Man City have tried to win the UCL but they have always failed. Today they had a great chance of winning and getting to the final. I feel very confident that one of the winners of this match will be the UCL champion this season.
yes, I also think so because in the other semifinal, Inter Milan vs AC Milan, where the two teams, if you look at the performance and quality this season, are still below Real Madrid or Manchester City, so it is very likely that anyone who will qualify for the final between Man City or Real Madrid is very likely It is very likely that they will win the UCL this season.

and in terms of the performance of Real Madrid and also Man City this season there is indeed a slight difference, Man City is much stronger and consistent throughout the season but Real Madrid is still superior mentally and confidently on the UCL stage so that the match between the two teams is much more fierce, Man City is indeed very favorite in this match but not many dare to bet big for Man City because Real Madrid often makes surprises in important matches.
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Real madrid has so many experiences back. The defenders like rudiger are also having so many experiences in UCL. He has been winning UCL with chelsea too. Putting madrid as nonfavored club might be a wrong decision.

It's hard to guess the final result later. They are just as strong, they have excellent stats. Although I support Real Madrid, I also have doubts. The reason is because Man City were very strong today. They have an incredible Haaland. Pep and Man City have tried to win the UCL but they have always failed. Today they had a great chance of winning and getting to the final. I feel very confident that one of the winners of this match will be the UCL champion this season.

Yes, basically Real Madrid has a winning mentality and experience which is certainly no doubt related to the Champions League. However, it's not wrong if at one point Real Madrid might not be fully favored because after all, at this moment it seems that Real Madrid will not have an easy way to win the Champions League title again.

Because Manchester City continues to build a better team, at least at this moment Manchester City looks to have a better chance of winning the Champions League title. But yes, even though I also favor Manchester City, but I also don't consider Real Madrid to be weak, because in the Champions League, of course, Real Madrid always has its own chance to win the Champions League title.
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Manchester City, in the history of Champions League games, have only played in the final once and failed to win. That time, everyone was just as sure of winning, but that opinion proved to be wrong. The same situation is now being repeated, but only in the semi-finals. Speaking of the squads, Real Madrid, like Manchester City, are doing well with top class players. Of course I can't be sure Real Madrid will win, but these matches will be even.
So from that the second meeting was an event for Manchester City's revenge on Madrid, considering the two met last season to be precise in the CL semifinals as well and Manchester City failed because of Madrid, I think Guardiola will put pressure on his team to be able to play as much as possible to beat Madrid in the first leg CL semi-finals later. I believe Manchester City's victory in front of their eyes this season belongs to them and will not give Madrid another chance to win the UCL this season.

I think with the current players and formations Manchester City can get a treble winner, even though Madrid supporters say it's difficult but I believe Guardiola has prepared a strategy to beat Madrid in the first leg match, I bet on Manchester City winning  Wink
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Manchester City, in the history of Champions League games, have only played in the final once and failed to win. That time, everyone was just as sure of winning, but that opinion proved to be wrong. The same situation is now being repeated, but only in the semi-finals. Speaking of the squads, Real Madrid, like Manchester City, are doing well with top class players. Of course I can't be sure Real Madrid will win, but these matches will be even.
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It's hard to guess the final result later. They are just as strong, they have excellent stats. Although I support Real Madrid, I also have doubts. The reason is because Man City were very strong today. They have an incredible Haaland. Pep and Man City have tried to win the UCL but they have always failed. Today they had a great chance of winning and getting to the final. I feel very confident that one of the winners of this match will be the UCL champion this season.
It is very hard to predict a winner because I really believe that the winner will be decided by very slim difference between two clubs. Just like their matches in the past season, until very last minutes of 90 minutes, nobody thought Real Madrid could bring Manchester City to extra halfs. By some last magic minutes, Real Madrid did it, brought the opponent to extra halfs and won it after all in surprise as well as disappointment of Manchester City.

I am thinking of a similar scenario in this season as they are both very strong and not much different in quality. Their squads are full of star players who can have fantastic moments to decide final result.

I don't want to say that something like that will happen here, because Guardiola is also a very experienced coach and in this tournament he went very far with different teams, so in this case it is not worth talking about the advantage in experience.
Pep Guardiola is a smart coach but he has never won any Champions League after his departure from Barcelona. He still needs to prove to everyone that he can win Champions League with other clubs. So far he failed from Bayern Munich to Manchester City, which is a serious failure for his career but he can change it, maybe in this season. Again, he and Manchester City are very closely to Champions League final.
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Real madrid has so many experiences back. The defenders like rudiger are also having so many experiences in UCL. He has been winning UCL with chelsea too. Putting madrid as nonfavored club might be a wrong decision.

It's hard to guess the final result later. They are just as strong, they have excellent stats. Although I support Real Madrid, I also have doubts. The reason is because Man City were very strong today. They have an incredible Haaland. Pep and Man City have tried to win the UCL but they have always failed. Today they had a great chance of winning and getting to the final. I feel very confident that one of the winners of this match will be the UCL champion this season.
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Talking about history we know Real Madrid got perfect experience in the Champions League they are usually the first hope for the winning trophy also their coach Ancelotti is a coach who understands this tournament very well and he got enough experience.
But from what we saw in the recent games of both teams, I guess Manchester City got more chance to win this game, especially after the performance of this team in the last few weeks.
The chance was coming from haaland that becomes the main striker for manchester city. I don't even think if people gonna favoring manchester city if there was no haaland in the club. He was beast striker, and that's fact, but real madrid is almost a club with most of UCL trophies. This is also the fact.
It's pretty hard to determine which club that will be dominating the match soon. The first leg gonna happen in santiago bernabeu which will give real madrid more advantage over manchester city. Bookies are also putting more odds compared with city which means bookies picking city as a candidate that will win the first leg. I have opposite opinion regarding it as i think that real madrid will able to play fully offensive against manchester city.
Real madrid has so many experiences back. The defenders like rudiger are also having so many experiences in UCL. He has been winning UCL with chelsea too. Putting madrid as nonfavored club might be a wrong decision.
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Talking about history we know Real Madrid got perfect experience in the Champions League they are usually the first hope for the winning trophy also their coach Ancelotti is a coach who understands this tournament very well and he got enough experience.
But from what we saw in the recent games of both teams, I guess Manchester City got more chance to win this game, especially after the performance of this team in the last few weeks.
You know, the Champions League is a tournament in which experience plays a very important role. I remember quite recently, here almost everyone said that Milan had no chance against such a Napoli, but the result of this confrontation was very unexpected.

I don't want to say that something like that will happen here, because Guardiola is also a very experienced coach and in this tournament he went very far with different teams, so in this case it is not worth talking about the advantage in experience.

If we evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of the teams, then it seems to me that Real Madrid's defense now looks like their weak link, and a team like City should take advantage of this. And by the way, Benzema is not in the best shape right now, so he may not be the savior for Real Madrid, as he was last time.
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Every Champions League match was very important for Madrid. Real Madrid has dominated the Champions League matches since the beginning of the season. And so we have seen better performances from Real Madrid in almost every Champions League match.
Manchester City is a strong opponent. And so it won't be easy for Madrid to beat City. I would say both teams have a 50-50 chance of winning. The team that will be able to play well on the field will qualify for the finals. The Madrid team is experienced in the Champions League platform. Despite City being strong, against Ancelotti's match strategy, Manchester City will find it very difficult to win.
There are always different views on the semi-finals between Real Madrid vs Man City, the two clubs are equally great, they just have different experiences, while what we know is that Man City, under the tutelage of Pep Guardiola, has been able to win various titles for several years, only one that has not been achieved, namely the Champions League.

Their chances are still the same advancing to the final but we saw the history of Real Madrid which impresses everyone but Manchester City will still continue to try against these odds their squad is ready with a very reliable squad especially Haaland who has always been talked about will be the destroyer of Real Madrid later, but it's still very difficult to predict, we always see Madrid so strong at the end.
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Not only Haaland was key for Manchester City to win the match but also Kevin DeBruyne, his assist was enough to make Manchester City a productive team in the English Premier League and in the Champions League, it was proven that against Fulham yesterday match Kevin did not play due to injury and they could only score two goals.
So Madrid needs to take care of these 2 pairs right? at least Kevin DeBuyne and Haaland are a couple who always switch positions back and forth. Both can exchange roles as assists and can be the final executor. So, if the 2 moves of these 2 players can be controlled, it is possible that Grealish and the others will find it even more difficult to move. Seeing Man City's match against Arsenal, where it was clear that Arteta monotonous strategy was clear, of course Pep Guardiola manipulated Arsenal defense through Haaland and Kevin De Bruyne.

City were also behind Arsenal for a long time, but in the end they were able to turn things around. Real Madrid had something similar, but they could not compete with Barcelona because they conceded a lot and lost points often. I agree that City are looking better now and they probably in a good mood, as they managed to come out on top in the Premier League, but this Champions League is a different tournament that a team like Real always approaches with a lot of responsibility. City look stronger, but Real Madrid won't give up victory from the Champions League semi-final so easily.
This is what needs to be seen from the objectivity of the two teams. I'm leaning towards Real Madrid but if indeed this time Man City are able to excel it will certainly be a tremendous success. Because while in the UCL, Man City always failed Madrid. Apart from that one thing we must remember is not to give up before starting and for Madrid last season's title holder will try all the abilities he has and his experience in the UCL. Maybe the Man City trend has risen to the surface, but Madrid can secretly wipe out the hopes of its opponents.
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Considering the defeats of Real Madrid in the league, we can talk about Manchester City dominating the match in England. If they dominate the match, they can easily pass the round with a solid defensive game in Spain. Real gave great danger signals in Girona match in the defending zone. If they repeat the same mistakes in the Manchester City game, they can concede 4 more goals.

It's as clear as day light that Man City will dominate. I have never watched a game that Man City did not dominate, whether they win, lose or draw.
The last semi final clash between Man City and Madrid was dominated by Man City, both legs. Madrid is good at hanging back a bit and hit on the counter attack. It's what they do, it's what has worked for them for years. They're so good at it. They don't have to play well to win. Pep's team on the other hand have to play well before they win. If they play badly they they will lose. Madrid can win playing badly and also win while playing well.
Man City have got to be very careful at the back, they have to be very solid defensively if they want to win Madrid. There has to be no margin for errors. Bury the chances you get against Madrid if not they will hurt you.
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I must say that the Manchester City is the stronger team. They have consistently performed well in recent years, with a strong squad and a top-notch coach in Pep Guardiola. However, the Real Madrid is also a top team, with a long history of success and a talented roster of players.
however Real Madrid has a very long experience in UCL, I think it will be a good challenge..

Talking about history we know Real Madrid got perfect experience in the Champions League they are usually the first hope for the winning trophy also their coach Ancelotti is a coach who understands this tournament very well and he got enough experience.
But from what we saw in the recent games of both teams, I guess Manchester City got more chance to win this game, especially after the performance of this team in the last few weeks.
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Madrid beat Almeria 4-2 in their next match despite losing against Girona. I don't think we will see any effect of the level against Girona in the Champions League match. Because Madrid's performance in La Liga this season has been erratic, but their performance in the Champions League has not been erratic. Also, the first match against Manchester City is Madrid's home match. Madrid is always strong at home. Players will be very confident. And so the Real Madrid team will be ahead in the first leg. But the Manchester City team is very strong. So it is not possible to predict with certainty which team will win.
There are some things that need to be bolded about real madrid.

The performance of real madrid in UCL is far different compared in the league. it's caused by ancelotti is still trying to keep the chance to win UCL trophy become as big as possible. UCL trophy is far important for real madrid compared with the domestic league. It's caused by winning UCL will make the club to get UCL spot for next season. Real madrid was not also using full squads in the domestic league. It can be seen from the line up against girona.

Real madrid used full squads against almeria while almeria was using fully defensive strategy. Benzema was maing hatrick against almeria which is good.
It is not possible to use the performance in the domestic league as a good parameter to determine the result in UCL. I just try to understand if ancelotti knows everything what we didn't know.
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I know Madrid are not very consistent in the league so I wouldn't be surprised if they often lose in the league, because it's different from playing in CL because they have a winning mentality especially as defending champions of course Madrid has its own way to qualify for the final or win the CL season. This. Even so, I still believe that Manchester City will get rid of Madrid in the semifinals and will win the CL this season.

Every Champions League match was very important for Madrid. Real Madrid has dominated the Champions League matches since the beginning of the season. And so we have seen better performances from Real Madrid in almost every Champions League match.
Manchester City is a strong opponent. And so it won't be easy for Madrid to beat City. I would say both teams have a 50-50 chance of winning. The team that will be able to play well on the field will qualify for the finals. The Madrid team is experienced in the Champions League platform. Despite City being strong, against Ancelotti's match strategy, Manchester City will find it very difficult to win.
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There are still 2 matches before they meet and I think for now I will continue to wait and see the progress of the two because it is possible that in these 2 matches there will be some unexpected events such as player injuries which might make the odds change later.
Yes of course. Injuries before their match will definitely affect the odds and the outcome. I was actually monitoring the Modric hamstring situation - he is still doubtful the last time I checked and he's likely to miss the first leg. I think that's one of the reason why RM is the current underdog. He may be old but he is still one of their best midfielders.


I immediately looked for news about this and it is true that the news is that he will be resting due to recovery and it is very likely that he will miss 4 matches including the Copa del Rey final and the first leg with Manchester City.
This is definitely a real loss for Madrid, but in other cases Ancelotti must also hope that other players do not follow, including in this case Benzema, who is always prone when it comes to injuries.

This will be a problem for the midfield even though there are still a number of players who can compete, it will still be a shame.

Actually I'm quite hesitant to make a bet even though Manchester City is the favourite, because as you said, Madrid is playing at home and the Bernabeu is still quite haunted for a club from England until now. So this can also be used as an excuse to be in Madrid, especially with their odds conditions.
I don't care so much about bookies were favoring manchester city in this case. I do know so well history of real madrid in UCL. It can't be underestimated. Im seeing how strong mancheter city right now. KBD and haaland are the key players that owned by manchester city. Beating manchested city meant if real madrid must put the main concern into those guys. It's caused by KDB and haaland are the best duo in EPL. Killing the movement from one of them will be giving difficulty for manchester city to create an attack.
The match will come very soon. I think that there will be many things to happened before the match will be occured.
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There are still 2 matches before they meet and I think for now I will continue to wait and see the progress of the two because it is possible that in these 2 matches there will be some unexpected events such as player injuries which might make the odds change later.
Yes of course. Injuries before their match will definitely affect the odds and the outcome. I was actually monitoring the Modric hamstring situation - he is still doubtful the last time I checked and he's likely to miss the first leg. I think that's one of the reason why RM is the current underdog. He may be old but he is still one of their best midfielders.


Yep, basically, sometimes the bets of the Banders still need to be seen, but for other conditions it can still be ignored.
Talking about KDB, the movements and passes that are always made are quite troublesome, therefore the Madrid midfield must try to cover the movement there because in this way the pressure on Madrid can be reduced because the supply from the Manchester City midfield is reduced which makes this good enough for Madrid, of course.

There are still 2 matches before they meet and I think for now I will continue to wait and see the progress of the two because it is possible that in these 2 matches there will be some unexpected events such as player injuries which might make the odds change later.
I think that the coaches from any team are already aware of that. It can be seen from how ancelotti and pep were benching their key players. That's a good decision but at the same time those players need time to play as they can use it as training session before the real match will be coming soon. It's very hard to know what kind of plan that already prepared by the coaches from any team. This match is even bigger compared with intermilan vs acmilan.
Now there is Modric who is most likely ruled out for Madrid but on the other hand KDB is also currently having a problem with his leg and he wasn't even in the squad against Fulham but there is still no further announcement on KDB's issue right now.
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The results of the Madrid match against Almeria are of course of particular concern again, because Benzema as Real Madrid's goal machine scored three goals in that match, a special concern for Manchester City's defense,
I really can't wait for the match between these two clubs, I will bet on Manchester City because I know they are different from last season, now they also have a goal machine like Haaland, I think that also needs to be paid attention to by the Madrid defense, I worried that in the first leg meeting madrid would be humiliated by manchester city, i would be happy to see him as a manchester city supporter.

I know Madrid are not very consistent in the league so I wouldn't be surprised if they often lose in the league, because it's different from playing in CL because they have a winning mentality especially as defending champions of course Madrid has its own way to qualify for the final or win the CL season. This. Even so, I still believe that Manchester City will get rid of Madrid in the semifinals and will win the CL this season.
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I must say that the Manchester City is the stronger team. They have consistently performed well in recent years, with a strong squad and a top-notch coach in Pep Guardiola. However, the Real Madrid is also a top team, with a long history of success and a talented roster of players.
however Real Madrid has a very long experience in UCL, I think it will be a good challenge..
Man City and Real Madrid will be very tight matches because these two teams are very strong and have good experience from the history of travel in their respective leagues. even though everyone prefers Man City but I still choose Real Madrid as the favorite team in UCL even I still bet on Madrid.

even though Man City has some very good players, it is rather difficult to get past the experience of Real Madrid, who have won the UCL for a long time and have won several trophies that have added to the enthusiasm of the Madrid players.
but if Madrid fail to get to the final round and Man City can qualify for the final round, this match in the UCL is like something new when Man City is able to qualify for the final round.
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Real Madrid has been somewhat erratic in La Liga, but their performance in every Champions League match has been very consistent. Their performance in the Champions League is organized. And so La Liga's performance should not be compared with Madrid's Champions League performance. Madrid's main scorer Benzema is in very good form right now. He scored a hat trick in both matches. Madrid can expect good results if they play against Madrid like this.

Manchester United managed to reclaim the top spot in the Premier League. Now their target is the Champions League. Manchester City's midfield and striker Haaland is in great form right now. This is why no team can beat Manchester City. I think City are favorites against Madrid.
Don't look at Real Madrid's performance in La Liga. Lots of injuries especially Benzema missed 11 matches in La Liga due to injury. Actually Vini, Rodrygo, Camavinga, Ceballos and Valverde are doing much better now than last year. Benzema and Rodrygo have been in good form recently, especially Benzema returned to prime at the right time with 3 hat-tricks in April and Rodrygo steadily secured the RW position. Only Militao will miss the first leg, Modric should be fit by then.

It must be admitted that on paper Man City is better and superior in terms of players but once again Real Madrid is a Real Madrid full of mentality that has been tested in the UCL and for me it will be a difficult game but I believe in Real Madrid will fight this year to enter the Finals again.
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At this point, everyone is free to make their predictions but one thing is sure, they may be weak in Spain league but they are the best in this Champions League, and in 8 days, we will know anyone that will win the first leg. However, I have been trying to see if there are any errors Manchester City has done in their last matches even when they are winning, I couldn't find any and that gives me fear of what they will do or maybe I'm overthinking it, who knows if Real Madrid will score early goals like 2 goals in the early match to maintain the league for the rest of the match, I know this is hard but I believe they can do it.
Real Madrid always looks different in the Champions League than La Liga, ahead of the match vs Manchester City Real Madrid's defense was in the spotlight due to conceding six goals in the two matches that have just passed in La Liga. Manchester City could torture Real Madrid if their defense played undisciplined, conceding four goals from Girona is a job that Ancelotti must fix immediately.

Manchester City's charming appearance when they beat Arsenal and Fulham became a good capital ahead of the match against Real Madrid. Guardiola men were also very productive, they were able to score six goals in the last two games. Even though Real Madrid is listed as the best team in the Champions League, they have to be careful with the strength that Manchester City has.
Between the two teams Manchester City and Real Madrid became the main focus of discussion everywhere, seeing from the condition Real Madrid was indeed not so healthy in his playing performance, moreover Benzema, who has always been the spearhead of Real Madrid in attacking him several times suffered injuries so that the ability he has show no longer completely.
The defense that Real Madrid had when facing Girona did not completely reduce his best players. One of them was in the last defense, namely the Keeper against Girona. Anceloti relied on A, Lunin and did not use their main keeper Courtois.
Manchester City is indeed experiencing very good improvement in every game, we cannot deny that, even though Real Madrid has a lot of experience in the Champions League but for Manchester today they cannot be complacent with Guardiola's strategy in using it to be terrible like today.

The results of the Madrid match against Almeria are of course of particular concern again, because Benzema as Real Madrid's goal machine scored three goals in that match, a special concern for Manchester City's defense,
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