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Quote from: babo on May 02, 2023, 02:26:23 AM

I must say that the Manchester City is the stronger team. They have consistently performed well in recent years, with a strong squad and a top-notch coach in Pep Guardiola. However, the Real Madrid is also a top team, with a long history of success and a talented roster of players.
however Real Madrid has a very long experience in UCL, I think it will be a good challenge..

In fact, almost everyone is aware that Man City's performance is slightly superior to Real Madrid. This was even evident from last season's UCL semi-final match. But sometimes in football the team that is superior in terms of play and the quality of the players cannot be used as a benchmark to determine which team will lose and which team will win. Because like many of us have encountered both in Laliga and in the Premier League and even in the UCL. sometimes many match results are far behind our expectations or predictions. Even after we have collected statistical data for each team carefully.

And especially with this very hot semi-final match. Real Madrid also doesn't only have experienced players. but the Real Madrid coach (Carlo Ancelotti) is actually much more experienced than the Man City coach, namely Pep Guardiola. So that the strategy of the coach is also what sometimes determines the success of a team. Both of these teams have their own advantages.

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Quote from: babo on May 02, 2023, 02:26:23 AM

I must say that the Manchester City is the stronger team. They have consistently performed well in recent years, with a strong squad and a top-notch coach in Pep Guardiola.

Manchester City are building and improving themselves to be stronger and more competitive in Champions League. Pep Guardiola after some defeats by his weird changes in squad choosing and his obsessive perfection, looks to change himself and switch to find stable squad for Manchester City. It makes Manchester City more dangerous in Champions League and they will have bigger chance to win it without sudden strange choice from Pep Guardiola.

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However, the Real Madrid is also a top team, with a long history of success and a talented roster of players.
however Real Madrid has a very long experience in UCL, I think it will be a good challenge..

True so. Real Madrid looks to be a perfect competitor that can beat Manchester City in Champions League. Will they repeat what they did in the last season against Manchester City in semi finals ?

Their striker Benzema is simply at his good form with 4 hat-tricks recent weeks. More dangerous, Real Madrid don't only have Benzema but also have some dangerous and energetic attacking players like Vini Jr., Rodrygo as well as ability to find goals from distant shots with Valverde, Kroos. They have some good alternative players like Asensio who has very good performances in the last one month.

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Quote from: makishart on May 02, 2023, 01:51:31 AM

I think that the coaches from any team are already aware of that. It can be seen from how ancelotti and pep were benching their key players. That's a good decision but at the same time those players need time to play as they can use it as training session before the real match will be coming soon. It's very hard to know what kind of plan that already prepared by the coaches from any team. This match is even bigger compared with intermilan vs acmilan.

Usually the key players will keep playing, but the coach usually not let them play for full time, it could be just a half time or few minutes.

Pep Guardiola sometime use a controversial strategy during final or big match, this is why usually many fans hope Pep will not use his crazy strategy, just use a same strategy like when they match with other clubs.

Maybe we will see Haaland will play at right winger position? at attacking midfielder position? we're don't know about Pep's brain.

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I must say that the Manchester City is the stronger team. They have consistently performed well in recent years, with a strong squad and a top-notch coach in Pep Guardiola. However, the Real Madrid is also a top team, with a long history of success and a talented roster of players.
however Real Madrid has a very long experience in UCL, I think it will be a good challenge..

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on May 01, 2023, 02:43:16 PM

Actually I'm quite hesitant to make a bet even though Manchester City is the favourite, because as you said, Madrid is playing at home and the Bernabeu is still quite haunted for a club from England until now. So this can also be used as an excuse to be in Madrid, especially with their odds conditions.

I don't care so much about bookies were favoring manchester city in this case. I do know so well history of real madrid in UCL. It can't be underestimated. Im seeing how strong mancheter city right now. KBD and haaland are the key players that owned by manchester city. Beating manchested city meant if real madrid must put the main concern into those guys. It's caused by KDB and haaland are the best duo in EPL. Killing the movement from one of them will be giving difficulty for manchester city to create an attack.
The match will come very soon. I think that there will be many things to happened before the match will be occured.

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on May 01, 2023, 02:43:16 PM

There are still 2 matches before they meet and I think for now I will continue to wait and see the progress of the two because it is possible that in these 2 matches there will be some unexpected events such as player injuries which might make the odds change later.

I think that the coaches from any team are already aware of that. It can be seen from how ancelotti and pep were benching their key players. That's a good decision but at the same time those players need time to play as they can use it as training session before the real match will be coming soon. It's very hard to know what kind of plan that already prepared by the coaches from any team. This match is even bigger compared with intermilan vs acmilan.

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There is no doubt that City is the best team in Europe presently and their consistency so far has made them the favorite I believe man city can win the game the have one of the best midfielder Kevin Debruyne and they also have a good and prolific goal scorers in the person of haaland, I think it may come down to city pace against real Madrid a quicker tempo favors city if real Madrid dictate the pace and can avoid conceding on the counter. Things might just go their way

They didn't start this season very well and lost many points, especially in the premier that's why Arsenal was the first team in the premier league for weeks but in the champions league Manchester City had a stable performance, and they won many great games like Bayern Munich but since Manchester City never won the champions league and they never even played on the final match this game can be very much important for Manchester City.

You're right Manchester City didn't do anything great from the start in the Premier League Arsenal were ahead. But Manchester City has been doing great since the beginning of the Champions League and is currently in the semi-finals, hopefully this team will do something amazing against Real Madrid in the semi-finals.

Right now their consistency and aggression are allowing them to have impressive results because early rounds of this season they were checking their strength and working on their strategy which keep them behind Arsenal but now after having good results they are dominating in Premier League and Champions League as well which is surely good for them just before end of season now they are at the top of the table with having good advantage against Real Madrid which is currently struggling and having injuries issue as well.

After eliminating two English clubs in round of 16 and quarter-final now they have the toughest team in English Premier League at Bernabéu Madrid which is real test case for them and their love affair with Champions League now can they complete their hat-trick against English clubs, or now they will face elimination now we have just 8 days left in this all.

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Quote from: W Jr. on May 02, 2023, 12:42:28 AM

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Next week it's that time again and we're going to look at the semi-finals of the CL. The first game is Real Madrid - Manchester City and that is also the most exciting game in my opinion. 2 teams that like to play football and are known for their scoring ability. That said, I thought last year was a bit disappointing in terms of goals. In Manchester it only became 1-0 for Manchester City, and in Madrid it was 0-1 in favor of Manchester until the 90th minute. 3 minutes later it was 2-1, but still, still only 3 goals. I think we will see more goals tomorrow and probably more than 4 goals in 2 matches. Real Madrid are no longer in top form in the league, but in the CL they often have a different level and style of play than in the league. Not very strange either, because in the league they are favorites every game except when they play against Barcelona.

Considering the defeats of Real Madrid in the league, we can talk about Manchester City dominating the match in England. If they dominate the match, they can easily pass the round with a solid defensive game in Spain. Real gave great danger signals in Girona match in the defending zone. If they repeat the same mistakes in the Manchester City game, they can concede 4 more goals.

Madrid beat Almeria 4-2 in their next match despite losing against Girona. I don't think we will see any effect of the level against Girona in the Champions League match. Because Madrid's performance in La Liga this season has been erratic, but their performance in the Champions League has not been erratic. Also, the first match against Manchester City is Madrid's home match. Madrid is always strong at home. Players will be very confident. And so the Real Madrid team will be ahead in the first leg. But the Manchester City team is very strong. So it is not possible to predict with certainty which team will win.

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Next week it's that time again and we're going to look at the semi-finals of the CL. The first game is Real Madrid - Manchester City and that is also the most exciting game in my opinion. 2 teams that like to play football and are known for their scoring ability. That said, I thought last year was a bit disappointing in terms of goals. In Manchester it only became 1-0 for Manchester City, and in Madrid it was 0-1 in favor of Manchester until the 90th minute. 3 minutes later it was 2-1, but still, still only 3 goals. I think we will see more goals tomorrow and probably more than 4 goals in 2 matches. Real Madrid are no longer in top form in the league, but in the CL they often have a different level and style of play than in the league. Not very strange either, because in the league they are favorites every game except when they play against Barcelona.

Considering the defeats of Real Madrid in the league, we can talk about Manchester City dominating the match in England. If they dominate the match, they can easily pass the round with a solid defensive game in Spain. Real gave great danger signals in Girona match in the defending zone. If they repeat the same mistakes in the Manchester City game, they can concede 4 more goals.

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Quote from: kotwica666 on May 01, 2023, 06:38:19 PM

You're right Manchester City didn't do anything great from the start in the Premier League Arsenal were ahead. But Manchester City has been doing great since the beginning of the Champions League and is currently in the semi-finals, hopefully this team will do something amazing against Real Madrid in the semi-finals.

How can you say like that? Have you seen the stats that achieved by manchester city this season? It's now placed at the number one of EPL. Manchester city has even better statistic compared with arsenal. That means manchester city was doing so well since the league has been starting.
I think that you shall try to see the picture that i have mentioned below. It's clearly said that if manchester city will unable to be in the first place if it would have bad start at early of season.
I suggest you try to take a look at the picture.

Leading the league = More win and less loss. It's enough to say that manchester city's performace already so good since last year.

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Quote from: mamesso on May 01, 2023, 10:22:44 PM

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At this point, everyone is free to make their predictions but one thing is sure, they may be weak in Spain league but they are the best in this Champions League, and in 8 days, we will know anyone that will win the first leg. However, I have been trying to see if there are any errors Manchester City has done in their last matches even when they are winning, I couldn't find any and that gives me fear of what they will do or maybe I'm overthinking it, who knows if Real Madrid will score early goals like 2 goals in the early match to maintain the league for the rest of the match, I know this is hard but I believe they can do it.

Real Madrid always looks different in the Champions League than La Liga, ahead of the match vs Manchester City Real Madrid's defense was in the spotlight due to conceding six goals in the two matches that have just passed in La Liga. Manchester City could torture Real Madrid if their defense played undisciplined, conceding four goals from Girona is a job that Ancelotti must fix immediately.
Manchester City's charming appearance when they beat Arsenal and Fulham became a good capital ahead of the match against Real Madrid. Guardiola men were also very productive, they were able to score six goals in the last two games. Even though Real Madrid is listed as the best team in the Champions League, they have to be careful with the strength that Manchester City has.

Real Madrid has been somewhat erratic in La Liga, but their performance in every Champions League match has been very consistent. Their performance in the Champions League is organized. And so La Liga's performance should not be compared with Madrid's Champions League performance. Madrid's main scorer Benzema is in very good form right now. He scored a hat trick in both matches. Madrid can expect good results if they play against Madrid like this.

Manchester United managed to reclaim the top spot in the Premier League. Now their target is the Champions League. Manchester City's midfield and striker Haaland is in great form right now. This is why no team can beat Manchester City. I think City are favorites against Madrid.

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Quote from: Cookdata on May 01, 2023, 01:54:54 PM

At this point, everyone is free to make their predictions but one thing is sure, they may be weak in Spain league but they are the best in this Champions League, and in 8 days, we will know anyone that will win the first leg. However, I have been trying to see if there are any errors Manchester City has done in their last matches even when they are winning, I couldn't find any and that gives me fear of what they will do or maybe I'm overthinking it, who knows if Real Madrid will score early goals like 2 goals in the early match to maintain the league for the rest of the match, I know this is hard but I believe they can do it.

Real Madrid always looks different in the Champions League than La Liga, ahead of the match vs Manchester City Real Madrid's defense was in the spotlight due to conceding six goals in the two matches that have just passed in La Liga. Manchester City could torture Real Madrid if their defense played undisciplined, conceding four goals from Girona is a job that Ancelotti must fix immediately.

Manchester City's charming appearance when they beat Arsenal and Fulham became a good capital ahead of the match against Real Madrid. Guardiola men were also very productive, they were able to score six goals in the last two games. Even though Real Madrid is listed as the best team in the Champions League, they have to be careful with the strength that Manchester City has.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on May 01, 2023, 02:43:16 PM

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There are still 2 matches before they meet and I think for now I will continue to wait and see the progress of the two because it is possible that in these 2 matches there will be some unexpected events such as player injuries which might make the odds change later.

Yes of course. Injuries before their match will definitely affect the odds and the outcome. I was actually monitoring the Modric hamstring situation - he is still doubtful the last time I checked and he's likely to miss the first leg. I think that's one of the reason why RM is the current underdog. He may be old but he is still one of their best midfielders.

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Madrid may be at the top now but believe me when i say Manchester city is coming to take that position.
The fact still remains that Manchester city is way far better than Madrid in performance.
Julian Alvarez and Halland are two perfect players in Manchester city. I have so much confidence in man city that they will win the League.

There is no doubt that City is the best team in Europe presently and their consistency so far has made them the favorite I believe man city can win the game the have one of the best midfielder Kevin Debruyne and they also have a good and prolific goal scorers in the person of haaland, I think it may come down to city pace against real Madrid a quicker tempo favors city if real Madrid dictate the pace and can avoid conceding on the counter. Things might just go their way

They didn't start this season very well and lost many points, especially in the premier that's why Arsenal was the first team in the premier league for weeks but in the champions league Manchester City had a stable performance, and they won many great games like Bayern Munich but since Manchester City never won the champions league and they never even played on the final match this game can be very much important for Manchester City.

You're right Manchester City didn't do anything great from the start in the Premier League Arsenal were ahead. But Manchester City has been doing great since the beginning of the Champions League and is currently in the semi-finals, hopefully this team will do something amazing against Real Madrid in the semi-finals.

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Quote from: RILWAN on May 01, 2023, 04:46:52 PM

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Madrid may be at the top now but believe me when i say Manchester city is coming to take that position.
The fact still remains that Manchester city is way far better than Madrid in performance.
Julian Alvarez and Halland are two perfect players in Manchester city. I have so much confidence in man city that they will win the League.

There is no doubt that City is the best team in Europe presently and their consistency so far has made them the favorite I believe man city can win the game the have one of the best midfielder Kevin Debruyne and they also have a good and prolific goal scorers in the person of haaland, I think it may come down to city pace against real Madrid a quicker tempo favors city if real Madrid dictate the pace and can avoid conceding on the counter. Things might just go their way

They didn't start this season very well and lost many points, especially in the premier that's why Arsenal was the first team in the premier league for weeks but in the champions league Manchester City had a stable performance, and they won many great games like Bayern Munich but since Manchester City never won the champions league and they never even played on the final match this game can be very much important for Manchester City.

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Quote from: alastantiger on May 01, 2023, 04:27:32 PM

Madrid may be at the top now but believe me when i say Manchester city is coming to take that position.
The fact still remains that Manchester city is way far better than Madrid in performance.
Julian Alvarez and Halland are two perfect players in Manchester city. I have so much confidence in man city that they will win the League.

There is no doubt that City is the best team in Europe presently and their consistency so far has made them the favorite I believe man city can win the game the have one of the best midfielder Kevin Debruyne and they also have a good and prolific goal scorers in the person of haaland, I think it may come down to city pace against real Madrid a quicker tempo favors city if real Madrid dictate the pace and can avoid conceding on the counter. Things might just go their way

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Quote from: alastantiger on May 01, 2023, 04:27:32 PM

Madrid may be at the top now but believe me when i say Manchester city is coming to take that position.
The fact still remains that Manchester city is way far better than Madrid in performance.
Julian Alvarez and Halland are two perfect players in Manchester city. I have so much confidence in man city that they will win the League.

All faith is on Manchester City in the match against Real Madrid. Even though Real Madrid is a team that other teams fear in the Champions League, Manchester City will try their best to win the meeting later. Not only haaland, Manchester City has Kevin de Bruyne who has performed brilliantly this season. He became Manchester City's game controller on the field.

It's also too boring if Real Madrid always wins the UCL and it's only right that other teams can break their positive trend. Manchester city is perfect this season I hope they do a miracle in the first leg later.

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Everyone has their own perspective on this, especially the fans who are sure to say that their club is the strongest, whether it's Madrid or Manchester City with their respective advantages mentioned. But in this case it is clear that the conditions are not that simple because both of them still have the same opportunity, whether it's Manchester City or Madrid, they have their own advantages and disadvantages at this time.

Indeed. Man City fans must assume City to defeat Real Madrid, Real Madrid fans will assume Real Madrid to win the match. Grin

Well, however, considering the experience, Real Madrid is still the favorite team to win. Although they are not really good in La Liga, it doesn't mean Real Madrid is weakened. They may not really care about the La Liga matches anymore, they are aware it is impossible to win it. So, they only focus on UCL matches and Copa Del Rey final.

Anyway, I agree that both basically have the same opportunity. Both Real Madrid and Man City have strong squads, and both have experienced coaches, too.

Still, one week left to start the game between Real Madrid and Macnshter City, with the current situation of both teams I think Macnshter City can easily win the game against Real Madrid because, unlike Real Madrid, Manchester City had an amazing performance in the previous games we saw from this team and I think they can at least win the first leg.

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Quote from: terrorJR on April 30, 2023, 04:43:21 PM

Everyone has their own perspective on this, especially the fans who are sure to say that their club is the strongest, whether it's Madrid or Manchester City with their respective advantages mentioned. But in this case it is clear that the conditions are not that simple because both of them still have the same opportunity, whether it's Manchester City or Madrid, they have their own advantages and disadvantages at this time.

Indeed. Man City fans must assume City to defeat Real Madrid, Real Madrid fans will assume Real Madrid to win the match. Grin

Well, however, considering the experience, Real Madrid is still the favorite team to win. Although they are not really good in La Liga, it doesn't mean Real Madrid is weakened. They may not really care about the La Liga matches anymore, they are aware it is impossible to win it. So, they only focus on UCL matches and Copa Del Rey final.

Anyway, I agree that both basically have the same opportunity. Both Real Madrid and Man City have strong squads, and both have experienced coaches, too.

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Madrid may be at the top now but believe me when i say Manchester city is coming to take that position.
The fact still remains that Manchester city is way far better than Madrid in performance.
Julian Alvarez and Halland are two perfect players in Manchester city. I have so much confidence in man city that they will win the League.

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Quote from: Cookdata on May 01, 2023, 01:54:54 PM

At this point, everyone is free to make their predictions but one thing is sure, they may be weak in Spain league but they are the best in this Champions League, and in 8 days, we will know anyone that will win the first leg. However, I have been trying to see if there are any errors Manchester City has done in their last matches even when they are winning, I couldn't find any and that gives me fear of what they will do or maybe I'm overthinking it, who knows if Real Madrid will score early goals like 2 goals in the early match to maintain the league for the rest of the match, I know this is hard but I believe they can do it.

Manchester City performance in Champions league have been so outstanding that's is why they do not have challenge on how to win their games. But this doesn't mean they are better than Real Madrid, Real Madrid meeting Manchester City will be a big motivation for Real to win against Manchester City.

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