UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season - page 430.

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Quote from: makishart on February 27, 2023, 10:38:18 AM

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I am sure that Guardiola will prepare the team for this match perfectly. It is unthinkable for a well-prepared Manchester City not to knock out Leipzig. The return of Kevin De Bruyne will undoubtedly put the team at ease. He manages the midfield like a maestro. Haaland may find more opportunities.

The match against leipzig gonna be a very important match. It's even more important compared with EPL match. I guess that if it's pep's dream to give city UEFA champion league trophy. Pep will be so happy if he can give a trophy that already targeted since a previous seasons.
I think that guardiola already spent the first leg to be used to go all in the second leg. I just see that the decision for not substrituting the player as a trick to fool leipzig. The second leg gonna be crazy for manchester city.

I also thought why Pep Guardiola didn't make substitutions, but maybe that was one of the strategies so that his opponents couldn't read what they were going to do in the second leg later. At least that's what we can see from what Pep Guardiola did in the first leg. Now they can't do the same strategy, because winning is mandatory, they can do that in the first leg but not the second.

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Quote from: alpamar99 on February 27, 2023, 11:03:00 AM

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Manchester City seems to be focusing on the second leg as a reference and considers a draw in the first leg to be very good for them.
With the conditions that are seen now, I agree that whatever Leipzig does, it looks like Manchester City will not be playing anymore now, even though in this match they cannot be underestimated for Manchester City.

Manchester City are in great form in the last games and Leipzig's chances for a rematch after their first draw are very slim. If they knock out Manchester City in England, it will be the biggest surprise of the champions league. The competition level of the German league is not at the Premier league level. One of the things that keeps Manchester City in shape is the matches they play with strong teams in the tough Premier league.

There is still a chance, it's just that it's very small when you look at the readiness and condition of the players. it's just that when we talk about the Champions League there are always surprises like for example last season about Villarreal who managed to overthrow Bayern in the top 8 and it's not impossible that something like this can happen again but looking at the statistics of course Manchester City is the absolute favourite.

I think there is no room for any team to be considered weak in the round of 16 of the Champions League. Every team here has the ability to qualify for the quarter-finals. And so I would say Manchester City should perform very carefully in the second leg match. Guardiola is a very experienced coach. I believe he will not make any wrong strategy in the second leg. Manchester City can beat Leipzig if they keep their defense strong.

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Quote from: rendravolt on February 27, 2023, 09:59:04 AM

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I will bet on Manchester City, at least the odds are still pretty good

That's the spirit hehe. Moneyline is too low for me and I'm not even comfortable on -1 handicap @1.67. I'd rather bet on both teams scoring @1.74 than picking a winner.

Quote from: makishart on February 27, 2023, 10:38:18 AM

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I guess that if it's pep's dream to give city UEFA champion league trophy.

It's probably what he and the owners talked about before he signed with the team.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on February 27, 2023, 03:48:51 AM

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Manchester City seems to be focusing on the second leg as a reference and considers a draw in the first leg to be very good for them.
With the conditions that are seen now, I agree that whatever Leipzig does, it looks like Manchester City will not be playing anymore now, even though in this match they cannot be underestimated for Manchester City.

Manchester City are in great form in the last games and Leipzig's chances for a rematch after their first draw are very slim. If they knock out Manchester City in England, it will be the biggest surprise of the champions league. The competition level of the German league is not at the Premier league level. One of the things that keeps Manchester City in shape is the matches they play with strong teams in the tough Premier league.

There is still a chance, it's just that it's very small when you look at the readiness and condition of the players. it's just that when we talk about the Champions League there are always surprises like for example last season about Villarreal who managed to overthrow Bayern in the top 8 and it's not impossible that something like this can happen again but looking at the statistics of course Manchester City is the absolute favourite.

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Quote from: Despairo on February 27, 2023, 08:45:12 AM

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Even so, I still feel the 50/50 chance is too big for Leipzig because seeing the condition of the players and the condition of Manchester City is clearly a favorite, especially when they play at home.
Maybe when you think 50/50 it reflects from the first leg match, but in this condition I think the first leg doesn't really have an impact because Manchester City doesn't seem to be playing seriously there so City's advantage for the second leg still looks quite real even though the match is still long.

Lol, any club will try their best in the first leg or second leg because both of them will determine the last outcome. Manchester City doesn't have a strong mentality, previous season was a proof where Real Madrid can comeback against them.

Are you indirectly saying that Leipzig has a strong mentality in this regard? Even if what you said about Manchester City is true about the mentality of the Champions League it is still lacking but when you compare it to Leipzig then Manchester City is much better.

Quote from: Despairo on February 27, 2023, 08:45:12 AM

Manchester City is bigger than Leipzig because Leipzig didn't play at Premier League and they're not spend a lot money to sign a good players, this is why most people think Premier League club is better than other league, except the other league have a popular players e.g. PSG or the club is really consistent e.g. Bayern Munich, Barcelona, Real Madrid.

Talking about domestic league comparisons is not an assumption because of the fact that the Premier League is much better than the Bundesliga which is only a farmers' league. As for Barcelona, we have to remove this club from the discussion because they are no longer in the Champions League.

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Quote from: Mustang Shelby on February 27, 2023, 08:51:02 AM

I am sure that Guardiola will prepare the team for this match perfectly. It is unthinkable for a well-prepared Manchester City not to knock out Leipzig. The return of Kevin De Bruyne will undoubtedly put the team at ease. He manages the midfield like a maestro. Haaland may find more opportunities.

The match against leipzig gonna be a very important match. It's even more important compared with EPL match. I guess that if it's pep's dream to give city UEFA champion league trophy. Pep will be so happy if he can give a trophy that already targeted since a previous seasons.
I think that guardiola already spent the first leg to be used to go all in the second leg. I just see that the decision for not substrituting the player as a trick to fool leipzig. The second leg gonna be crazy for manchester city.

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Quote from: makishart on February 26, 2023, 07:08:13 PM

Quote from: Velvet78 on February 26, 2023, 06:08:27 PM

Leipzig aren't a small team indeed but I still don't see their chance much high against Manchester City honestly.

A big challenge for leipzig to play in etihad stadium. After a bad result achieved by leipzig in the red bull arena and it's now for city to do revenge in the etihad stadium. City's odd can also be considered as very small odd but that looks good enough

Leipzig's odd is big. We do know that if city has become most favorite team in the second leg. The draw against leipzig in the first leg has been giving more advantage to the manchester city. It's caused by city has a very good record to play at home. I see no chance for leipzig to win against city but none knows what's gonna happen. Leipzig could win if that was lucky enough against city.

It is very difficult to beat Manchester City especially since the second leg will take place at the Etihad Stadium, I think that even Leipzig can win aggregate the opportunity is very small. Especially appearing before his supporters made Pep Guardiola's squad not want to disappoint the fans. I will bet on Manchester City, at least the odds are still pretty good than betting on Leipzig with a large odds and not necessarily they can win.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on February 27, 2023, 09:26:11 AM

man city is not easy to beat at home, especially now that they really want the UCL trophy, apart from that, guardiola will definitely use the best strategy for his team

Guardiola will be scratching his head on the best possible way to approach the game. Leipzig are the clear underdogs but we all have seen how Underdogs perform in UCL knockout stages so I am going to say that city can win easily. One other thing I found about Guardiola is he made his EPL and every other league look less competitive but when he comes to the Champions league he always gets knocked out with some silly tweaking of his formation. This time around I don’t know how he would set out his team but should he reverse to his old ways of playing different or weak line up then we might see Leipzig going in for it

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You can’t conclude yet, the game is a 50/50 game in the sense that anything can happen. Leipzig is a team that can perform wonders when you least expect. In other hand, Manchester city won’t trade their Champions league next round for any other thing. They will come with a full force and Leipzig will be prepared for them as well.

Of course, every outcome is possible in football, but I don't think the odds are 50-50. There are many factors that affect the possibilities. A team becomes a favorite due to many factors such as team quality, matches played, mental and physical condition of the players. Manchester City are two steps ahead in this matchup. It's clear they're the favourites, and I think they'll pass without any surprises.

I am very surprised if anyone thinks that in the second leg match later, the chances of winning for Man City are only 50%. the second leg will take place at home to man city so their chances of winning reach 65%

man city is not easy to beat at home, especially now that they really want the UCL trophy, apart from that, guardiola will definitely use the best strategy for his team

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Quote from: Doell on February 26, 2023, 06:59:44 PM

Quote from: Velvet78 on February 26, 2023, 06:08:27 PM

Leipzig aren't a small team indeed but I still don't see their chance much high against Manchester City honestly.

Manchester City are very highly favoured on paper obviously. The first leg was pretty surprising indeed. Who could have thought that Manchester City would play like that. There were two different teams in both halves. I think Guardiola will prepare his players very well for the rematch. I don't think Leipzig can find many goal opportunities this time. I expect a total domination by Manchester City and a decent win in Etihad.

Yes I also don't see a chance for Leipzig to win at Etihad, because Manchester City have advantage there as home team, also Bruyne has recovered and he can play in the second leg. I'm sure with Bruyne, he will create good opportunity for Haaland to scored, so it will be an absolute win for Manchester City. Even I think with a big score, anyway Guardiola have a lot experience in UCL and he knows what he has to do in second leg.

I am sure that Guardiola will prepare the team for this match perfectly. It is unthinkable for a well-prepared Manchester City not to knock out Leipzig. The return of Kevin De Bruyne will undoubtedly put the team at ease. He manages the midfield like a maestro. Haaland may find more opportunities.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on February 27, 2023, 04:22:43 AM

Even so, I still feel the 50/50 chance is too big for Leipzig because seeing the condition of the players and the condition of Manchester City is clearly a favorite, especially when they play at home.
Maybe when you think 50/50 it reflects from the first leg match, but in this condition I think the first leg doesn't really have an impact because Manchester City doesn't seem to be playing seriously there so City's advantage for the second leg still looks quite real even though the match is still long.

Lol, any club will try their best in the first leg or second leg because both of them will determine the last outcome. Manchester City doesn't have a strong mentality, previous season was a proof where Real Madrid can comeback against them.

Manchester City is bigger than Leipzig because Leipzig didn't play at Premier League and they're not spend a lot money to sign a good players, this is why most people think Premier League club is better than other league, except the other league have a popular players e.g. PSG or the club is really consistent e.g. Bayern Munich, Barcelona, Real Madrid.

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Quote from: naira on February 27, 2023, 08:15:39 AM

The Champions League ahead of Leg 2 later, of course I'm very optimistic that Real Madrid will qualify on paper. Moreover, hosting Liverpool at the Santiago Bernabeu is a big advantage for Madrid.

But on the other hand the clubs I want to see are Dortmund, Benfica, Bayern Munich, Man City, Tottenham, Napoli and Inter able to secure a place in the last 8. That way it will be very interesting when these clubs can face each other. Given the current strength of each club, it is guaranteed to provide a surprising game.

I doubt if Liverpool can have a chance of winning real madrid in the second leg. Real Madrid won't even make that mistake to lose to Liverpool. The strength of Real Madrid and Liverpool are of different levels.

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Quote from: bestcoins1 on February 27, 2023, 07:57:33 AM

In terms of preparation, I think all the teams that are already in the Champions League are certainly ready and for this second leg the chances for Manchester City should be bigger because they are playing at home and also Manchester City still has a way to be able to win in the second leg because when the match is in the second leg firstly Manchester City just doesn't try to replace their players in every half so this may not be done again by Manchester City when playing at home in the second leg.

Of course I also think like you. It is Man City who will qualify in the next phase. They have one goal at Leipzig's favourable Red Bull Arena. Even the hallmark of Man City's game remained when they left the Red Bull Arena. Tomorrow at the Etihad they will be better and able to set up goals to ensure they qualify for the next phase. aWhen at Red Bull actually Man City performed convincingly from the start, but after scoring Man City seemed to lower the tempo a bit and that made it easier for Leipzig to put together an attack and could score one goal.

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The Champions League ahead of Leg 2 later, of course I'm very optimistic that Real Madrid will qualify on paper. Moreover, hosting Liverpool at the Santiago Bernabeu is a big advantage for Madrid.

But on the other hand the clubs I want to see are Dortmund, Benfica, Bayern Munich, Man City, Tottenham, Napoli and Inter able to secure a place in the last 8. That way it will be very interesting when these clubs can face each other. Given the current strength of each club, it is guaranteed to provide a surprising game.

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Quote from: Freeveto on February 27, 2023, 03:27:50 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on February 26, 2023, 06:08:27 PM

Leipzig aren't a small team indeed but I still don't see their chance much high against Manchester City honestly.

Manchester City are very highly favoured on paper obviously. The first leg was pretty surprising indeed. Who could have thought that Manchester City would play like that. There were two different teams in both halves. I think Guardiola will prepare his players very well for the rematch. I don't think Leipzig can find many goal opportunities this time. I expect a total domination by Manchester City and a decent win in Etihad.

You can’t conclude yet, the game is a 50/50 game in the sense that anything can happen. Leipzig is a team that can perform wonders when you least expect. In other hand, Manchester city won’t trade their Champions league next round for any other thing. They will come with a full force and Leipzig will be prepared for them as well.

Both teams have a very good performance but the game is on comparable, Manchester city is a good team that performs well but when the game starts I Manchester City will pass Leipzig for possession,and for pass completion but the game will hard for Manchester City to win the game, because Leipzig too will not allow Manchester City to see goals may in first half Leipzig will even play ball more than Manchester City.when the ball unpressed Leipzig you will see Leipzig play defensive game.that is when the game will hard for Manchester City to win the game.I play win or draw for Manchester City, Manchester City may win with lucky goal to win the the game of that day.

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Quote from: Freeveto on February 27, 2023, 03:27:50 AM

You can’t conclude yet, the game is a 50/50 game in the sense that anything can happen. Leipzig is a team that can perform wonders when you least expect. In other hand, Manchester city won’t trade their Champions league next round for any other thing. They will come with a full force and Leipzig will be prepared for them as well.

In terms of preparation, I think all the teams that are already in the Champions League are certainly ready and for this second leg the chances for Manchester City should be bigger because they are playing at home and also Manchester City still has a way to be able to win in the second leg because when the match is in the second leg firstly Manchester City just doesn't try to replace their players in every half so this may not be done again by Manchester City when playing at home in the second leg.

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Quote from: Freeveto on February 27, 2023, 03:27:50 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on February 26, 2023, 06:08:27 PM

Leipzig aren't a small team indeed but I still don't see their chance much high against Manchester City honestly.

Manchester City are very highly favoured on paper obviously. The first leg was pretty surprising indeed. Who could have thought that Manchester City would play like that. There were two different teams in both halves. I think Guardiola will prepare his players very well for the rematch. I don't think Leipzig can find many goal opportunities this time. I expect a total domination by Manchester City and a decent win in Etihad.

You can’t conclude yet, the game is a 50/50 game in the sense that anything can happen. Leipzig is a team that can perform wonders when you least expect. In other hand, Manchester city won’t trade their Champions league next round for any other thing. They will come with a full force and Leipzig will be prepared for them as well.

Anything can happen I agree with that, but to say their chances are 50/50 in my opinion that's not the case. Manchester City are the favorites in this match, they are superior in many ways so Manchester City's chances are bigger than Leipzig, even though in football anything can happen. But here we are talking about the strengths of the two teams, and that shows that once again Manchester City is the favorite to qualify for the next round.

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Leipzig aren't a small team indeed but I still don't see their chance much high against Manchester City honestly.
Manchester City are very highly favoured on paper obviously. The first leg was pretty surprising indeed. Who could have thought that Manchester City would play like that. There were two different teams in both halves. I think Guardiola will prepare his players very well for the rematch. I don't think Leipzig can find many goal opportunities this time. I expect a total domination by Manchester City and a decent win in Etihad.

You can’t conclude yet, the game is a 50/50 game in the sense that anything can happen. Leipzig is a team that can perform wonders when you least expect. In other hand, Manchester city won’t trade their Champions league next round for any other thing. They will come with a full force and Leipzig will be prepared for them as well.

Of course, every outcome is possible in football, but I don't think the odds are 50-50. There are many factors that affect the possibilities. A team becomes a favorite due to many factors such as team quality, matches played, mental and physical condition of the players. Manchester City are two steps ahead in this matchup. It's clear they're the favourites, and I think they'll pass without any surprises.

I would say that we should be prepared to see any result in the Champions League. There is no doubt that Manchester City are favourites. The Leipzig team is relatively weak. But don't forget that last season the mighty Bayern Munich lost against Villarreal and were eliminated from the Champions League. So there is no opportunity to see the Leipzig team as weak in any way. If Manchester City make any mistakes, they are likely to be eliminated.

Sometimes games are unpredicted, I don't really see Leipzig to be a weak team. Leipzig is a performing team that their performance can still be considered as average. Manchester City needs to be careful with Leipzig because it won't be easy, I do not underate Leipzig.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on February 26, 2023, 06:08:27 PM

Leipzig aren't a small team indeed but I still don't see their chance much high against Manchester City honestly.

Manchester City are very highly favoured on paper obviously. The first leg was pretty surprising indeed. Who could have thought that Manchester City would play like that. There were two different teams in both halves. I think Guardiola will prepare his players very well for the rematch. I don't think Leipzig can find many goal opportunities this time. I expect a total domination by Manchester City and a decent win in Etihad.

Just let the match to be played first. I knew that if city was superior especially when it was playing on its home. Leipzig may have only a very small chance to be qualified for the next round. As far as i know that if pep was not even substituted the players. That being said that if pep was doing some experiments that happened in the first leg. I see that if this gonna be a tough game for leipzig.

Leipzi must have make lots of scores to be qualified for last 8. There are some clubs that have been confirmed to go to the last 8 since these clubs were winning with big scores like real madrid and napoli.

Manchester city gonna face some big clubs that may able to defeat it again. This opportunity may come again in the upcoming season but it's very hard for pep to miss it.

Pep wans to give city UCL trophy and that's it.

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Leipzig's odd is big. We do know that if city has become most favorite team in the second leg. The draw against leipzig in the first leg has been giving more advantage to the manchester city. It's caused by city has a very good record to play at home. I see no chance for leipzig to win against city but none knows what's gonna happen. Leipzig could win if that was lucky enough against city.

Manchester City's main target now is the Champions League. They have fallen far behind in the Premier League. And so now they will try their best to do well in the Champions League. Manchester City drew in the first leg. And so City has no choice but to win the second leg. Also, Manchester City is a stronger team than Leipzig. Even so, I would say Manchester City can't win even after being favorites in the first leg. So it won't be easy for City to win the second leg. Boss Guardiola will make a big mistake if he thinks the Leipzig team is weak.

The target that never achieved by manchester city. Even pep was also saying that if he will be wasting all of his time to make sure he will get a UCL trophy with manchester city. The problem is city will be facing so many strong team. The team like real madrid, bayern will be also aiming the same thing like manchester city. Im feeling doubt if city can perform so well in the next round as it may possible for city to face bayern or real madrid.
I think that if city will be facing another disaster if the draw will be making city to face one of big team like bayern or real madrid. There's no team that didn't wanna face both of clubs in UCL.

Manchester City should now aim for a win against Leipzig. Manchester City could not win the first leg against Leipzig. So the Manchester City team is already at risk. Guardiola is an experienced coach. Even then he could not win the Champions League title with Manchester City. In the last few seasons, Manchester City has not won the title despite being favorites for the Champions League. It won't be easy for City to win the Champions League this season either.

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