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Quote from: lizarder on March 01, 2023, 11:05:19 AM

Bayern Munich's chances are far greater to qualify for the next round, compared to PSG's chances of making a comeback in the second leg, but Bayern Munich must also be wary of PSG because if Bayern Munich is off guard PSG can surprise and will punish them

Munich is indeed more favored, not only because they are already 1 goal ahead, but they will play the second leg at home, and that is an advantage for Munich to qualify for the next fake.
PSG will probably deploy all their great strength at the start of the match. including applying the pressing game from the start to catch up. Munich must anticipate this. if not or use tactics incorrectly, this could be a fatal punishment for Munich.

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Quote from: asriloni on March 01, 2023, 08:42:26 AM

did you compare marseille was pretty much the same like bayern? Marseille was still far under bayern. PSG will be playing without even some of its player. Neymar may not able to play against bayern due to his injury. that being said that if bayern has more opportunity to make the defeat PSG. I just remind you that neymar was also playing a very important role in the club. The next game will be played at allianz arena. Bayern has more advantages compared with PSG.

Messi and mbappe were not even able to make PSG club perform so well in the local league.

Playing at home will make Bayern Munich even more favourites, apart from that the 1-0 victory they got at the Parc des Princes is a pretty good capital for Bayern Munich, so that in the second leg playing at home will be even more motivated to win. PSG must fight for devisit one goal first and must try not to concede in the early minutes, so that PSG is much more pressured to play compared to Bayern Munich.

Bayern Munich's chances are far greater to qualify for the next round, compared to PSG's chances of making a comeback in the second leg, but Bayern Munich must also be wary of PSG because if Bayern Munich is off guard PSG can surprise and will punish them

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Quote from: jakdanyel on March 01, 2023, 07:56:34 AM

I believe nothing has ended for PSG yet. Maybe they lost home against Bayern Munich in the first leg and this has just made things more difficult for them. But they can still make up for that mistake in Allianz Arena as well. It won't be the first time they defeat Bayern Munich in their stadium as well if they do so. I have big expectations from Mbappe and Messi even if Neymar doesn't play in this one. As far as I know his return date from his injury is still unknown.

Mbappe and Messi both were amazing against Marseille in their last match. I expect a similar effort again for the victory.

Before the second leg wasn't over then it wasn't over for Paris Saint Germain or any of the teams now in the round of 16, it's just that their chances are no better than the team that won the first leg. Paris Saint Germain has an adequate composition of players, it's just that the problem is that they are still unable to maximize the performance of their players in more prestigious competitions such as the Champions League.

It's true what you said, PSG has an above average squad but they seem to have difficulty competing in a big competition like the UCL. But indeed their opponent is also not easy, namely Bayern Munich, which has won the UCL title several times. But if we look at the depth of the squads of these two teams it should be very balanced, but indeed the mentality in big competitions doesn't necessarily make big name players able to have a positive impact on the club they defend.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on March 01, 2023, 07:56:34 AM

I believe nothing has ended for PSG yet. Maybe they lost home against Bayern Munich in the first leg and this has just made things more difficult for them. But they can still make up for that mistake in Allianz Arena as well. It won't be the first time they defeat Bayern Munich in their stadium as well if they do so. I have big expectations from Mbappe and Messi even if Neymar doesn't play in this one. As far as I know his return date from his injury is still unknown.

Mbappe and Messi both were amazing against Marseille in their last match. I expect a similar effort again for the victory.

Before the second leg wasn't over then it wasn't over for Paris Saint Germain or any of the teams now in the round of 16, it's just that their chances are no better than the team that won the first leg. Paris Saint Germain has an adequate composition of players, it's just that the problem is that they are still unable to maximize the performance of their players in more prestigious competitions such as the Champions League.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on March 01, 2023, 07:56:34 AM

I believe nothing has ended for PSG yet. Maybe they lost home against Bayern Munich in the first leg and this has just made things more difficult for them. But they can still make up for that mistake in Allianz Arena as well. It won't be the first time they defeat Bayern Munich in their stadium as well if they do so. I have big expectations from Mbappe and Messi even if Neymar doesn't play in this one. As far as I know his return date from his injury is still unknown.

Mbappe and Messi both were amazing against Marseille in their last match. I expect a similar effort again for the victory.

It's not an easy matter for SPG to overthrow Bayern Munich, especially since this match is Bayern Munich's home game. I'm not sure, PSG will easily dominate the game when they play their match at home to Bayern. because, Nagelsmann will not let his team easily be dictated by PSG in the match later. moreover, Bayern Munich is currently starting to return to its best performance. but what is certain, Galtier must optimize his team against Bayern at the Allianz Arena. like it or not, PSG had to appear offensive since the first round whistle was sounded.

Even so, we agree that PSG still has a chance to win this fight. in fact, PSG could turn things around especially if the MNM Trio are playing with high performance. on the other hand, Bayern as the home team will not let PSG win the match. Nagelsmann will maximize his team, to provide fierce resistance to the opposing team. but, anything can happen. at least, this match will present a fierce match from the two teams that will fight.

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It is possible but whatever the reason is now he is back with the players and in the second leg later my hope is clear he will play as a general in the midfield because this can add a breakthrough for Manchester City.
Even though their wings are still very good, Manchester City is incomplete without the figure of De Bruyne in the midfield.

Even without many players I firmly believe that Manchester City will qualify further because if we compare both teams players individually then we realize that even with bench players Manchester City is clearly better than Leipzig.

The fact that they are playing at their home field in front of their fans this second leg is another beneficial factor for them and most likely Leipzig will suffer a defeat with a big number of goals scored,Manchester City focus is let's say a bit more in the Champions than the Premier League right now.

The conditions are still the same as before as long as in this case Pep doesn't do the same thing as in the first leg by carrying out a fairly extreme match without changing strategy and without changing the players there.
So it is clear that the chance still belongs to Manchester City, regardless of anything, it is very difficult for Leipzig's players now.
Even if there is hope, the conditions are favorable for Manchester City regardless of anything. I even confidently bet there in the match this time.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on March 01, 2023, 07:56:34 AM

I believe nothing has ended for PSG yet. Maybe they lost home against Bayern Munich in the first leg and this has just made things more difficult for them. But they can still make up for that mistake in Allianz Arena as well. It won't be the first time they defeat Bayern Munich in their stadium as well if they do so. I have big expectations from Mbappe and Messi even if Neymar doesn't play in this one. As far as I know his return date from his injury is still unknown.

I think that you shall remember that if it will not be the same as last season. I remember that PSG was playing in allianz arena with more aggregate. That's very sad to say that if coman will not play against bayern due to the red card. This match bayern and PSG will be starting with the same score. PSG didn't have an advantage like last season.

Quote from: jakdanyel on March 01, 2023, 07:56:34 AM

Mbappe and Messi both were amazing against Marseille in their last match. I expect a similar effort again for the victory.

did you compare marseille was pretty much the same like bayern? Marseille was still far under bayern. PSG will be playing without even some of its player. Neymar may not able to play against bayern due to his injury. that being said that if bayern has more opportunity to make the defeat PSG. I just remind you that neymar was also playing a very important role in the club. The next game will be played at allianz arena. Bayern has more advantages compared with PSG.

Messi and mbappe were not even able to make PSG club perform so well in the local league.

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Quote from: MAAManda on February 28, 2023, 07:23:54 PM

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I think that so many times people said that anything could happpen sometimes for chelsea but chelsea keeps consistently getting zero point in EPL. This gonna greatly affect the match at the stamford bridge. If you are aware if chelsea's attacking pattern is the worst. The ball was rarely going to the its attacker. Chelsea just like only playing the ball to get ball possessions which is the worst in my opinion even compared with the mediocre club.

What people say is not wrong, mate. Chelsea has become an unpredictable club recently. Although they are very bad in the EPL, it doesn't mean that they will also play badly in the UCL. In the first leg at Signal Iduna Park, 1 - 0 is a pretty good result IMO for Chelsea, because they only need 1 - 0 to go to ET at Stamford Bridge.

From the picture of the betting market that you attached, I'm sure that Chelsea will win with a difference of 1 goal, although it's not certain that the match will continue to ET or not.

Chelsea is becoming difficult for us to guess at this time. even their performance seems to look strong. even against Dortmund in the first leg we could see the attacks carried out by many that almost turned into a goal. it's just that the accuracy of Chelsea's forward players is not very good. their kicks are predictable. there are not many deceptive tricks in their attack patterns so that the opposing team can always read the movements of Chelsea's attacks. and opponents can always break the attacks built by Chelsea.

but this time Chelsea will play at home so that the opportunity to win is still open for Chelsea.

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I believe nothing has ended for PSG yet. Maybe they lost home against Bayern Munich in the first leg and this has just made things more difficult for them. But they can still make up for that mistake in Allianz Arena as well. It won't be the first time they defeat Bayern Munich in their stadium as well if they do so. I have big expectations from Mbappe and Messi even if Neymar doesn't play in this one. As far as I know his return date from his injury is still unknown.

Mbappe and Messi both were amazing against Marseille in their last match. I expect a similar effort again for the victory.

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Quote from: BlackBoss_ on February 28, 2023, 08:37:43 PM

Quote from: MAAManda on February 28, 2023, 07:23:54 PM

What people say is not wrong, mate. Chelsea has become an unpredictable club recently. Although they are very bad in the EPL, it doesn't mean that they will also play badly in the UCL. In the first leg at Signal Iduna Park, 1 - 0 is a pretty good result IMO for Chelsea, because they only need 1 - 0 to go to ET at Stamford Bridge.

From the picture of the betting market that you attached, I'm sure that Chelsea will win with a difference of 1 goal, although it's not certain that the match will continue to ET or not.

Chelsea are a great club in Europe since the days they have Abramovic then Mourinho but they did not win Champions League when they had excellent form. They won two Champions League in their club history in seasons when they did not play well in Premier League. Because of their bad performances in Premier League, they sacked their coaches and alternative coaches like Di Matteo, Tuchel brought them to two Champions League.

Di Matteo is even a less famous coach than Potter but yeah I don't know will Potter is capable of making the same thing like Di Matteo after all bad performances of Chelsea so far. Chance to see Chelsea fire Potter before a second leg match with Dortmund is slim but if they fail, they will be out of Champions League. It's a knock out match.

Winning the Champions League is not about form sometimes, it is about luck and it is also a different competition where the players feel extra motivation. See Liverpool vs. Real Madrid. There is no need to discuss who was the better team with better form, it was Liverpool. But in these games efficiency is the key. Sometimes it is all about that one goal in the final and there is no second leg. The year after nobody will talk about the runner up anymore. You either win it or you lose it all. In the national leagues the best team with the best form is supposed to win as an unlucky red card or an unjustified referee call against you is much less of a factor.

Speaking of Di Matteo about about the form of a team, the win in the Champions League final was one of the most unexpected wins I will ever remember. Bayern had twenty corners and Chelsea had one. That one corner in the 88th minute of the game led to Drogba's header into the back of the net. That's how a soccer game can be turned upside down with a single action right before the final whistle. Nobody is talking about it today and Di Matteo became a Champions League winning coach.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on March 01, 2023, 07:38:48 AM

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Regarding its matchup with Dortmund, it will be a do-or-die situation for them, and they must win to remain alive in the Champions League, which is more coveted than the Premier.

For me FC Chelsea is still the favorite to advance into the next round of the Champions League even though they are 0-1 behind after the first leg against Borussia Dortmund. I know that FC Chelsea is having a pretty rough time at the moment, but i think that their performance in the first leg against Dortmund was not that bad and they even had more better chances to score than Dortmund had. Of course if you are already having a hard time then those you are also unlucky and not efficient with your chances too, so FC Chelsea is 0-1 behind now.
Borussia Dortmund is not that strong tough, so i think at the Stamford Bridge, Chelsea will still be able to turn things around.

If I say that Borussia Dortmund are not that strong, what should I say about Chelsea now? because it's obvious they're in a slump. They still have a chance, I agree with that, but Borussia Dortmund also didn't come to see Chelsea's comeback, meaning they will give their best game. Moreover, they only need to play a draw in this second leg. I actually want to see what Graham Potter will do in this match, because the strategy and the players who will be the starting line-up will greatly determine their steps in the Champions League.

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Quote from: Getmon on March 01, 2023, 04:27:09 AM

Regarding its matchup with Dortmund, it will be a do-or-die situation for them, and they must win to remain alive in the Champions League, which is more coveted than the Premier.

For me FC Chelsea is still the favorite to advance into the next round of the Champions League even though they are 0-1 behind after the first leg against Borussia Dortmund. I know that FC Chelsea is having a pretty rough time at the moment, but i think that their performance in the first leg against Dortmund was not that bad and they even had more better chances to score than Dortmund had. Of course if you are already having a hard time then those you are also unlucky and not efficient with your chances too, so FC Chelsea is 0-1 behind now.
Borussia Dortmund is not that strong tough, so i think at the Stamford Bridge, Chelsea will still be able to turn things around.

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Quote from: Strongkored on March 01, 2023, 07:12:07 AM

It looks normal when many doubt that Chelsea can do much when they will face Dortmund in the second leg later, they always find it difficult to score goals in February they played 5 matches in the league and in the UCL and could only score one goal which was very bad and conceded 5 goals even Chelsea lost to Southampton, whoever the Chelsea striker is later they will still have trouble scoring goals, but sometimes things can be different and playing at Stamford Bridge gives them a slight advantage as long as Potter understands how to take advantage of these advantages but it's a shame he has no experience in the UCL and it will be a real test for him, and Chelsea fans will always believe they can improve even they don't know when that will happen

Chelsea should winning two goals above in Stanford Bridge on next Wednesday or 8th March if want qualify to the next round in Champion League after losing 0-1 at first leg from Dortmund. Chelsea have inconsistent performance in Primer League and I doubt with second leg can win more than two margin goals. Chelsea have three loss in last three matches in a row from Dortmund in Champion League and continue two matches in domestic league against Southampton and Tottenham Hotspur.

Not special performance with Chelsea this season although have home match, looking on current performance when beating by Southampton on Stanford Bridge and seems the away team have opportunities get points or win there.

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Quote from: rby on March 01, 2023, 06:45:51 AM

Chelsea has been performing so bad in the English Premier League and then their first leg in this champions league quarter. They also lost to Dortmund then why are you giving us the impression that Chelsea can be able to win Dortmund and the returning match when they cannot even win any club in the English Premier League?

It looks normal when many doubt that Chelsea can do much when they will face Dortmund in the second leg later, they always find it difficult to score goals in February they played 5 matches in the league and in the UCL and could only score one goal which was very bad and conceded 5 goals even Chelsea lost to Southampton, whoever the Chelsea striker is later they will still have trouble scoring goals, but sometimes things can be different and playing at Stamford Bridge gives them a slight advantage as long as Potter understands how to take advantage of these advantages but it's a shame he has no experience in the UCL and it will be a real test for him, and Chelsea fans will always believe they can improve even they don't know when that will happen

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Quote from: asriloni on February 28, 2023, 06:42:45 PM

I think that so many times people said that anything could happpen sometimes for chelsea but chelsea keeps consistently getting zero point in EPL. This gonna greatly affect the match at the stamford bridge. If you are aware if chelsea's attacking pattern is the worst. The ball was rarely going to the its attacker. Chelsea just like only playing the ball to get ball possessions which is the worst in my opinion even compared with the mediocre club.

What people say is not wrong, mate. Chelsea has become an unpredictable club recently. Although they are very bad in the EPL, it doesn't mean that they will also play badly in the UCL. In the first leg at Signal Iduna Park, 1 - 0 is a pretty good result IMO for Chelsea, because they only need 1 - 0 to go to ET at Stamford Bridge.

From the picture of the betting market that you attached, I'm sure that Chelsea will win with a difference of 1 goal, although it's not certain that the match will continue to ET or not.

Mate, I don't know where you get your inspiration from but what you are speaking is different from what is happening in the real time.
Chelsea has been performing so bad in the English Premier League and then their first leg in this champions league quarter. They also lost to Dortmund then why are you giving us the impression that Chelsea can be able to win Dortmund and the returning match when they cannot even win any club in the English Premier League?

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It seems that only these two matches are the easiest to predict for the outcome of the match in the second leg. namely the Napoli vs Frankfurt match and the Club Brugge vs Benfica match. Napoli and Benfica both look like they will be able to win the match with very big chances. because even in the first leg Napoli and Benfica were both able to beat their opponents quite easily. while for other team matches I think there are still many possibilities to be considered.

What's more, the victory was won away from each opponent, so it was very easy for Napoli and Benfica to win the second leg at home later. I think Napoli and Benfica will continue to use their main players in this match because if they underestimate their opponents by installing a number of second-tier players, of course it could be a problem for them and it is possible that their opponents will catch up on the aggregate.

There is no reason for these two teams not to play the full squad in this match, even though they are superior on aggregate, their position is not completely secure. They couldn't underestimate their opponent in the slightest because if they did then something bad might happen to them. Their big opportunity is right around the corner, so don't let them make the unnecessary mistake of fielding their second tier players. They must stick with the core formation to be able to minimize their risk in this match.

The Champions League is a competition that has always been coveted by many clubs in Europe and I hope Napoli and Benfica can be more serious in this regard even though their chances of qualifying are quite high. As a gambler, of course it will be quite a difficult consideration if later these two teams use several second-tier players, therefore this is just speculation and I hope of course that both Napoli and Benfica have to minimize the worst possibility.

There has been a lot of uncertainty in Napoli's games recently, especially when they play great teams. We didn't expect Napoli to beat top-tier teams with so many superstars, but after seeing the recent performance of this team and the ages the win recently, I am confident that this team will be one of the top teams battling for Champions League titles, even better than a top-tier team like Real Madrid.

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Quote from: Silberman on February 28, 2023, 01:48:10 PM

In an article I read today Potter is complaining that now Chelsea has too many players and that is ruining his training sessions, yeah I know how that sounds but I am not joking, Chelsea went out there and spend hundreds of millions of dollars for the players he asked and now he is unhappy about having too much players to work with, so even if he seems to still have the trust from the team owners, if Chelsea keeps getting bad results he is going to get fired, and deservedly so if you ask me.

It sounds strange to hear that. From what i know if potter itself who also agreed to buy so many new players with the hope that chelsea will able to sell lots of players at the same time . It's the best decision if chelsea's management try to sack him as soon as possible. The weirdest thing that i have ever seen is todd boehly as a billionaire was not even able to pay professional coach to handle its club. Todd was a very bad owner for sure and he didn't know football. I appreciate potter but he was also making wrong decision by approving todd to buy new players by his own intention.

What you have said above was actually make sense. Another thing that must be noted is potter was making so many drama. He was saying if it's not fault if team was performing so bad like that but with the goes of time he was changing his statement if it's all his responsibility if chelsea was always losing.

TBH, i consider any match that faced by chelsea as a final match caused by potter can be sacked anytime by the management. that's why the result from any match will be determining his future.

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What people say is not wrong, mate. Chelsea has become an unpredictable club recently. Although they are very bad in the EPL, it doesn't mean that they will also play badly in the UCL. In the first leg at Signal Iduna Park, 1 - 0 is a pretty good result IMO for Chelsea, because they only need 1 - 0 to go to ET at Stamford Bridge.

From the picture of the betting market that you attached, I'm sure that Chelsea will win with a difference of 1 goal, although it's not certain that the match will continue to ET or not.

Chelsea are a great club in Europe since the days they have Abramovic then Mourinho but they did not win Champions League when they had excellent form. They won two Champions League in their club history in seasons when they did not play well in Premier League. Because of their bad performances in Premier League, they sacked their coaches and alternative coaches like Di Matteo, Tuchel brought them to two Champions League.

Di Matteo is even a less famous coach than Potter but yeah I don't know will Potter is capable of making the same thing like Di Matteo after all bad performances of Chelsea so far. Chance to see Chelsea fire Potter before a second leg match with Dortmund is slim but if they fail, they will be out of Champions League. It's a knock out match.

I agree with you, Chelsea always won the Champions League when nobody expected it.
Mourinho did great things with Chelsea, but he couldn't win the Champions League.
And then Chelsea won the Champions League with an unknown, replacement coach, when no one saw them as favorites.
Can history repeat itself? Honestly, the chances of that are very small.
In the Champions League group, Chelsea started very badly, surprisingly they lost the first match in Zagreb against Dinamo and after 2 rounds they were last in the group.
Chelsea then really played very badly, without a clear plan and organization of the game, ineffective in attack, with a bad defense etc.
After that, new coach Potter comes in and raises the level of their game. Chelsea won all the remaining games until the end and won the first place in the group ahead of Milan.
However, Chelsea is again playing very poorly and unconvincingly and I sincerely doubt that they can make any good results this season in the English Championship or the Champions League.

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Quote from: MAAManda on February 28, 2023, 07:23:54 PM

Quote from: asriloni on February 28, 2023, 06:42:45 PM

I think that so many times people said that anything could happpen sometimes for chelsea but chelsea keeps consistently getting zero point in EPL. This gonna greatly affect the match at the stamford bridge. If you are aware if chelsea's attacking pattern is the worst. The ball was rarely going to the its attacker. Chelsea just like only playing the ball to get ball possessions which is the worst in my opinion even compared with the mediocre club.

What people say is not wrong, mate. Chelsea has become an unpredictable club recently. Although they are very bad in the EPL, it doesn't mean that they will also play badly in the UCL. In the first leg at Signal Iduna Park, 1 - 0 is a pretty good result IMO for Chelsea, because they only need 1 - 0 to go to ET at Stamford Bridge.

From the picture of the betting market that you attached, I'm sure that Chelsea will win with a difference of 1 goal, although it's not certain that the match will continue to ET or not.

Chelsea has been inconsistent recently. At Stamford Bridge, Southampton defeated them. They are like a team that does not know where to go and their defense is getting weaker. But Chelsea is still a very good team that can win under the right management. Chelsea will undergo transformations and return to strength next season.

Regarding its matchup with Dortmund, it will be a do-or-die situation for them, and they must win to remain alive in the Champions League, which is more coveted than the Premier.

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It seems that only these two matches are the easiest to predict for the outcome of the match in the second leg. namely the Napoli vs Frankfurt match and the Club Brugge vs Benfica match. Napoli and Benfica both look like they will be able to win the match with very big chances. because even in the first leg Napoli and Benfica were both able to beat their opponents quite easily. while for other team matches I think there are still many possibilities to be considered.

What's more, the victory was won away from each opponent, so it was very easy for Napoli and Benfica to win the second leg at home later. I think Napoli and Benfica will continue to use their main players in this match because if they underestimate their opponents by installing a number of second-tier players, of course it could be a problem for them and it is possible that their opponents will catch up on the aggregate.

There is no reason for these two teams not to play the full squad in this match, even though they are superior on aggregate, their position is not completely secure. They couldn't underestimate their opponent in the slightest because if they did then something bad might happen to them. Their big opportunity is right around the corner, so don't let them make the unnecessary mistake of fielding their second tier players. They must stick with the core formation to be able to minimize their risk in this match.

The Champions League is a competition that has always been coveted by many clubs in Europe and I hope Napoli and Benfica can be more serious in this regard even though their chances of qualifying are quite high. As a gambler, of course it will be quite a difficult consideration if later these two teams use several second-tier players, therefore this is just speculation and I hope of course that both Napoli and Benfica have to minimize the worst possibility.

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