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Quote from: Davian144 on February 28, 2023, 08:14:38 AM

In the premier league Chelsea still doesn't look strong enough and is still weak when compared to other teams that are near their current position in the standings. And in the Champions League I'm also not so sure that Chelsea can win easily at home when they face Dortmund in the second leg later.

Because Dortmund have also started to find their performance again this season so they will continue to compete in two different league competitions this season, even though Dortmund also does not have great potential to last longer in the Champions League this season.

The same thing happened at UCL. Chelsea's performance has been declining a lot since potter was changing some good players for useless players. It can be said that if chelsea has been fooled by so many clubs to buy useless player. I remember when lampard was still in chelsea. He has been suggested to buy some good players but that's very sad to say that if he has been sacked by abramovich caused by the bad performance of the club.

Being a manager is far difficult than a player caused by the pressure was very big but potter must be included in the exception. Chelsea is now a mediocre team that will get nothing this season.
Don't expect too much from chelsea

Whether the players bought by Chelsea are useful or not, what is clear is that under the leadership of Graham Potter, Chelsea spent a very large amount of funds spent by Chelsea to bring in top players, including in the January 2023 transfer market.
but in fact victory is still a hard thing to get, and this season chelsea is like a mediocre team like you said, and when chelsea played for me it wasn't an interesting match to watch because chelsea was not like last season, and also currently chelsea perform badly and always produce bad results in all competitions.

I don't understand how they can still get such unsuccessful results despite spending so much money. Considering that the players were made in line with the request of the coach, better players could be bought with this money. Sooner or later, the unsuccessful results will be billed to Potter.

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Quote from: hahay on February 28, 2023, 12:02:02 PM

What factors made Kevin De Bruyne unable to play, did Kevin De Bruyne get injured or was there something else. Because I don't know about Kevin De Bruyne's condition, because I also don't get the injury record that Kevin De Bruyne is currently experiencing.

But yes, apart from that it would be a shame if Manchester City couldn't play Kevin De Bruyne because basically, Kevin De Bruyne is like a key player who can control Manchester City's gameplay well. So if Kevin De Bruyne cannot be played, then of course it will be difficult for Manchester City to be able to win in an important match like in this Champions League.

There is no clear reason indeed even now I don't know why he can't be featured even in the EPL
the possibility is injury. the hope is that he will be in the squad because indeed without De Bruyne's presence Manchester City have lost a good supply of bait in midfield even though they are still very good but with De Bruyne's presence they are clearly much better.

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Quote from: Davian144 on February 28, 2023, 08:14:38 AM

In the premier league Chelsea still doesn't look strong enough and is still weak when compared to other teams that are near their current position in the standings. And in the Champions League I'm also not so sure that Chelsea can win easily at home when they face Dortmund in the second leg later.

Because Dortmund have also started to find their performance again this season so they will continue to compete in two different league competitions this season, even though Dortmund also does not have great potential to last longer in the Champions League this season.

The same thing happened at UCL. Chelsea's performance has been declining a lot since potter was changing some good players for useless players. It can be said that if chelsea has been fooled by so many clubs to buy useless player. I remember when lampard was still in chelsea. He has been suggested to buy some good players but that's very sad to say that if he has been sacked by abramovich caused by the bad performance of the club.

Being a manager is far difficult than a player caused by the pressure was very big but potter must be included in the exception. Chelsea is now a mediocre team that will get nothing this season.
Don't expect too much from chelsea

Whether the players bought by Chelsea are useful or not, what is clear is that under the leadership of Graham Potter, Chelsea spent a very large amount of funds spent by Chelsea to bring in top players, including in the January 2023 transfer market.
but in fact victory is still a hard thing to get, and this season chelsea is like a mediocre team like you said, and when chelsea played for me it wasn't an interesting match to watch because chelsea was not like last season, and also currently chelsea perform badly and always produce bad results in all competitions.

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It seems that only these two matches are the easiest to predict for the outcome of the match in the second leg. namely the Napoli vs Frankfurt match and the Club Brugge vs Benfica match. Napoli and Benfica both look like they will be able to win the match with very big chances. because even in the first leg Napoli and Benfica were both able to beat their opponents quite easily. while for other team matches I think there are still many possibilities to be considered.

What's more, the victory was won away from each opponent, so it was very easy for Napoli and Benfica to win the second leg at home later. I think Napoli and Benfica will continue to use their main players in this match because if they underestimate their opponents by installing a number of second-tier players, of course it could be a problem for them and it is possible that their opponents will catch up on the aggregate.

There is no reason for these two teams not to play the full squad in this match, even though they are superior on aggregate, their position is not completely secure. They couldn't underestimate their opponent in the slightest because if they did then something bad might happen to them. Their big opportunity is right around the corner, so don't let them make the unnecessary mistake of fielding their second tier players. They must stick with the core formation to be able to minimize their risk in this match.

Yes, Even though you are the favorite, of course you shouldn't underestimate your opponent. I'm sure there aren't many changes to the Napoli and Benfica squads. Maybe the coach will rotate several players who previously did not have much time to rest.

Must keep in mind! The Champions League is Europe's elite competition, of course every team will always appear all-out until the end of time. Many surprises have happened even beyond our predictions. So for every team that has excelled in leg 1, they still have to focus.

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Quote from: Davian144 on February 28, 2023, 08:14:38 AM

In the premier league Chelsea still doesn't look strong enough and is still weak when compared to other teams that are near their current position in the standings. And in the Champions League I'm also not so sure that Chelsea can win easily at home when they face Dortmund in the second leg later.

Because Dortmund have also started to find their performance again this season so they will continue to compete in two different league competitions this season, even though Dortmund also does not have great potential to last longer in the Champions League this season.

The same thing happened at UCL. Chelsea's performance has been declining a lot since potter was changing some good players for useless players. It can be said that if chelsea has been fooled by so many clubs to buy useless player. I remember when lampard was still in chelsea. He has been suggested to buy some good players but that's very sad to say that if he has been sacked by abramovich caused by the bad performance of the club.

Being a manager is far difficult than a player caused by the pressure was very big but potter must be included in the exception. Chelsea is now a mediocre team that will get nothing this season.
Don't expect too much from chelsea

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Quote from: Velvet78 on February 27, 2023, 05:38:36 PM

Real Madrid are still continuing to be Liverpool's nightmare in the Champions League. They are really haunting them and Liverpool are just so desperate to do anything against them. This season is something else for Liverpool. They are having the worst season since Klopp's arrival at the team. We all saw how this reflected on the Real Madrid game as well.

After this horrible defeat I don't expect a miracle from Liverpool obviously. Real Madrid can get another win in Santiago Bernabeu and seal the deal. Maybe Real Madrid are really dominating this tournament in general but Liverpool still should be able to do more with a squad like this normally.

comebacks became a signature move for Real Madrid after they were losing against Liverpool 2-0 and won 2-5, three goals difference is too much for Liverpool to get back from especially in Santiago Bernabeu and against a team like Real Madrid, I definitely don't see it happening, Liverpool aren't doing well this season, they're suffering big time.

They did that last year as well, and they are still doing it this year. This one was a bit too much of course lol, when you are losing 2-0, you score 3 goals and win the game and that's what we call a comeback, scoring 5 in a row as a response seemed like a bit of an overkill lol. But that allowed them psychologically finish this matchup, what will Liverpool do, win by 4 goals?

Of course not, we are not going to see that happening, so this matchup is basically over already and Real could start focusing on the league and the next stage a bit earlier than other teams. I am sensing that it's going to be a tough UCL season for all teams, so it's better to rest.

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Quote from: BRINIRHA on February 28, 2023, 05:31:40 AM

It seems that only these two matches are the easiest to predict for the outcome of the match in the second leg. namely the Napoli vs Frankfurt match and the Club Brugge vs Benfica match. Napoli and Benfica both look like they will be able to win the match with very big chances. because even in the first leg Napoli and Benfica were both able to beat their opponents quite easily. while for other team matches I think there are still many possibilities to be considered.

What's more, the victory was won away from each opponent, so it was very easy for Napoli and Benfica to win the second leg at home later. I think Napoli and Benfica will continue to use their main players in this match because if they underestimate their opponents by installing a number of second-tier players, of course it could be a problem for them and it is possible that their opponents will catch up on the aggregate.

There is no reason for these two teams not to play the full squad in this match, even though they are superior on aggregate, their position is not completely secure. They couldn't underestimate their opponent in the slightest because if they did then something bad might happen to them. Their big opportunity is right around the corner, so don't let them make the unnecessary mistake of fielding their second tier players. They must stick with the core formation to be able to minimize their risk in this match.

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Quote from: asriloni on February 28, 2023, 08:28:02 AM

Quote from: Despairo on February 28, 2023, 08:03:29 AM

Yeah Kevin De Bruyne was absent and Phil Foden didn't play, but Gundongan and Grealish aren't a bad players too. Manchester City will win, it's really shame if they get beaten by Leipzig in Manchester City's home. The second leg, Kevin De Bruyne seems high likely will play and I really confident enough Manchester City will play just like they beat the top 1 club position in Premier League e.g. Arsenal.

I think that even though gundongan and grealish were not so bad but de bruyne is still the most important team.De bruyne's absent from the club was giving a very big problem for sure. Manchester city might have more chance to win the second leg easily if there would be de bruyne who will not be absent due to his injury. it's very bad to miss him play against leipzig. UCL can be categorized as the most important trophy for city.

The fact that if pep was always aiming UCL trophy since last seasons.

What factors made Kevin De Bruyne unable to play, did Kevin De Bruyne get injured or was there something else. Because I don't know about Kevin De Bruyne's condition, because I also don't get the injury record that Kevin De Bruyne is currently experiencing.

But yes, apart from that it would be a shame if Manchester City couldn't play Kevin De Bruyne because basically, Kevin De Bruyne is like a key player who can control Manchester City's gameplay well. So if Kevin De Bruyne cannot be played, then of course it will be difficult for Manchester City to be able to win in an important match like in this Champions League.

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Quote from: rendravolt on February 27, 2023, 08:59:04 AM

It is very difficult to beat Manchester City especially since the second leg will take place at the Etihad Stadium, I think that even Leipzig can win aggregate the opportunity is very small. Especially appearing before his supporters made Pep Guardiola's squad not want to disappoint the fans. I will bet on Manchester City, at least the odds are still pretty good than betting on Leipzig with a large odds and not necessarily they can win.

From these qualities it can be seen that Manchester City has the opportunity to qualify for the next round in the second leg of the round of 16 because it is strengthened by home matches which are important points in this second round. However, surprises can occur if a sloppy attack catches them off guard in defense which their opponents can take advantage of.

However, as we can see, Manchester City can feast on a lot of goals in the second leg because in the first leg they were able to dominate the match by registering many attack attempts which made it difficult for the hosts in that match.

Real Madrid have guaranteed themselves passage to the 1/4 because it will be impossible for Liverpool to score 3 goals without conceding. I'm also surprised by Madrid's performance at home in La Liga, but we can assume that they have been preparing for the game against Liverpool and their preparation has not gone in vain. As for Liverpool, they are a mid-table English club now, as is Chesley.

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Quote from: BRINIRHA on February 28, 2023, 05:31:40 AM

It seems that only these two matches are the easiest to predict for the outcome of the match in the second leg. namely the Napoli vs Frankfurt match and the Club Brugge vs Benfica match. Napoli and Benfica both look like they will be able to win the match with very big chances. because even in the first leg Napoli and Benfica were both able to beat their opponents quite easily. while for other team matches I think there are still many possibilities to be considered.

At least, Napoli can focus more on the Champions League. they have packed 65 points in their domestic league, 18 points different from Inter and Milan. Napoli can focus on the Champions League matches, because it looks like the winning of the Serie A trophy is almost certain to belong to Napoli. in the game against Frankfurt, as we agreed. this fight will not be too difficult for them, especially in the second leg later. Napoli will play as the home team. I suspect that Napoli can become a team that becomes a stumbling block for other big teams if they meet in the next round phase. maybe, Napoli will surprise us.

On the other hand, Benfica is also unlikely to encounter fierce resistance from the opposing team in the second leg later. Benfica only needs to hold a draw, to qualify for the next phase. because, Club Brugge's performance did not appear too impressive. after all, Benfica is one level above its opponent. so, yes, it looks like Napoli and Benfica will qualify for the next phase.

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Real Madrid are still continuing to be Liverpool's nightmare in the Champions League. They are really haunting them and Liverpool are just so desperate to do anything against them. This season is something else for Liverpool. They are having the worst season since Klopp's arrival at the team. We all saw how this reflected on the Real Madrid game as well.

After this horrible defeat I don't expect a miracle from Liverpool obviously. Real Madrid can get another win in Santiago Bernabeu and seal the deal. Maybe Real Madrid are really dominating this tournament in general but Liverpool still should be able to do more with a squad like this normally.

of course it will be a tough task for liverpool to beat real madrid in the second leg with such a large aggregate score, obviously real madrid is enough to hold liverpool in the second leg Liverpool will be eliminated from the Champions league this season, Real madrid really have a winning mentality and they always play great in UCL seeing their game that managed to comeback against Liverpool yesterday it doesn't surprise everyone, I think Liverpool need to learn a lot from their defeat yesterday so they can be better in the next game even though it is a difficult task

I just had a look at the odds for Liverpool to qualify for the next round and it is around 11.0.

This is a very interesting list created by the UEFA where they present Champions League comebacks. There are a couple of comebacks like Barcelona vs. Paris, or Liverpool vs. Barcelona, or Ajax vs. Real Madrid (first leg 1-2, second 1-4 with Ajax winning away). But never has a team been down with three goals after a home game and then turned it around. Though Ajax showed that they could beat Real Madrid 1-4 in their own stadium.

I still just have no idea how Liverpool can have a chance, but maybe they make a miracle happen and write history. I don't believe it.

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Quote from: BRINIRHA on February 28, 2023, 05:31:40 AM

It seems that only these two matches are the easiest to predict for the outcome of the match in the second leg. namely the Napoli vs Frankfurt match and the Club Brugge vs Benfica match. Napoli and Benfica both look like they will be able to win the match with very big chances. because even in the first leg Napoli and Benfica were both able to beat their opponents quite easily. while for other team matches I think there are still many possibilities to be considered.

Napoli and Benfica in the comfortable position because they have already won with scores 2-0 each in the first leg and i think they almost be certain to qualified especially playing at their home ground for second leg which is Benfica and Napoli were very strong at there and if Club Brugge will be eliminate i think this is good achievement for them because they have made new history with being an the second Belgian team who able to qualified to round of 16 and previously there was another Belgian team who had equal achievement with them KAA Gent on season 2015/2016

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Quote from: BRINIRHA on February 28, 2023, 05:31:40 AM

It seems that only these two matches are the easiest to predict for the outcome of the match in the second leg. namely the Napoli vs Frankfurt match and the Club Brugge vs Benfica match. Napoli and Benfica both look like they will be able to win the match with very big chances. because even in the first leg Napoli and Benfica were both able to beat their opponents quite easily. while for other team matches I think there are still many possibilities to be considered.

What's more, the victory was won away from each opponent, so it was very easy for Napoli and Benfica to win the second leg at home later. I think Napoli and Benfica will continue to use their main players in this match because if they underestimate their opponents by installing a number of second-tier players, of course it could be a problem for them and it is possible that their opponents will catch up on the aggregate.

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Chelsea's loss in the premier league to Spurs was humiliating and not the level at which the team should be performing. I think it is time to say goodbye and end contract with Graham Potter who has so far not been able to turn the situation around even with the much money invested in improving the squad. Against RB Leipzig is another opportunity to return some level of hope but only if they can get a win.

In the premier league Chelsea still doesn't look strong enough and is still weak when compared to other teams that are near their current position in the standings. And in the Champions League I'm also not so sure that Chelsea can win easily at home when they face Dortmund in the second leg later.

Because Dortmund have also started to find their performance again this season so they will continue to compete in two different league competitions this season, even though Dortmund also does not have great potential to last longer in the Champions League this season.

Chelsea team knows how difficult it would be facing Dortmund in the Champions league. If the less known clubs in England right now can win them during the matches, I don't think Dortmund would encounter much obstacle in snatching the win.
As Thiago Silva is out of play with a torn ligament issue, team doctors are confirming he could be out for up to 6weeks. I wonder what other mishap is yet uncovered in the Chelsea camp.

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Quote from: Despairo on February 28, 2023, 08:03:29 AM

Yeah Kevin De Bruyne was absent and Phil Foden didn't play, but Gundongan and Grealish aren't a bad players too. Manchester City will win, it's really shame if they get beaten by Leipzig in Manchester City's home. The second leg, Kevin De Bruyne seems high likely will play and I really confident enough Manchester City will play just like they beat the top 1 club position in Premier League e.g. Arsenal.

I think that even though gundongan and grealish were not so bad but de bruyne is still the most important team.De bruyne's absent from the club was giving a very big problem for sure. Manchester city might have more chance to win the second leg easily if there would be de bruyne who will not be absent due to his injury. it's very bad to miss him play against leipzig. UCL can be categorized as the most important trophy for city.

The fact that if pep was always aiming UCL trophy since last seasons.

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Quote from: CryptoPanda on February 28, 2023, 05:15:19 AM

Chelsea's loss in the premier league to Spurs was humiliating and not the level at which the team should be performing. I think it is time to say goodbye and end contract with Graham Potter who has so far not been able to turn the situation around even with the much money invested in improving the squad. Against RB Leipzig is another opportunity to return some level of hope but only if they can get a win.

In the premier league Chelsea still doesn't look strong enough and is still weak when compared to other teams that are near their current position in the standings. And in the Champions League I'm also not so sure that Chelsea can win easily at home when they face Dortmund in the second leg later.

Because Dortmund have also started to find their performance again this season so they will continue to compete in two different league competitions this season, even though Dortmund also does not have great potential to last longer in the Champions League this season.

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Quote from: slapper on February 28, 2023, 06:53:56 AM

I agree that Manchester City struggles in Champions League matches. However, Pep Guardiola has learned from the past and will field a strong team in the second leg against RB Leipzig. The Etihad Stadium will be electric, and the fans will support their team at every turn. History shows that underdogs can win. Manchester City must score early to control the game. Hope for the best!

Yeah Kevin De Bruyne was absent and Phil Foden didn't play, but Gundongan and Grealish aren't a bad players too. Manchester City will win, it's really shame if they get beaten by Leipzig in Manchester City's home. The second leg, Kevin De Bruyne seems high likely will play and I really confident enough Manchester City will play just like they beat the top 1 club position in Premier League e.g. Arsenal.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on February 28, 2023, 04:48:13 AM

Well the first match ended with a draw with 1 goal each and as far as i know the away goal rule does not exist anymore since a few years now. This means that RB Leipzig does not really need to score. With the current result the game would go into extra time and the into the penalty shoot out and to get there would already be a pretty big achievement by Leipzig. So my guess would be that Leipzig will try to play more defensively and waiting for opportunities to perform quick counter attacks.

Not existing yet with away goals and have been adopted by UEFA last year and seems not advantage with draw result on first leg for Manchester City, Bundesliga team, Leipzig have opportunity for second leg without existing away goals and not matter for second leg except have to win without care about aggregate away goals if match still draw.

There are if match result still draw without any goals or both team scoring goals not important because have to continue with penalty kick, but Pep Guardiola have good experience and know more with Bundesliga teams after spent several years as Bayern Munich's manager.

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The match against leipzig gonna be a very important match. It's even more important compared with EPL match. I guess that if it's pep's dream to give city UEFA champion league trophy. Pep will be so happy if he can give a trophy that already targeted since a previous seasons.
I think that guardiola already spent the first leg to be used to go all in the second leg. I just see that the decision for not substrituting the player as a trick to fool leipzig. The second leg gonna be crazy for manchester city.

All odd favours Man City to win the second leg against Leipzig but we know how Manchester City can be in situations like this. Somehow they always fumble the opportunities they have against relatively lesser teams at this point of the competition. Man City had every opportunity to win the first leg but they kept missing all their chances and that might hunt them later. Things like this keep the hope of their opponent alive. It would make them start believing that they can actually knock out Man City, so they'll go into the second leg and play out their lives because they've got nothing to lose.

Man City have to be very careful not to underrate Leipzig because we've seen them do that time and again and it always hunts them.

Manchester City seem to play differently on most occasions when they play in the Champions league. I barely see the same performance level they exhibit in the Premier league. In the second leg I expect Guardiola to play a better side and go all out to get a win to qualify to the next rounds because it wouldn't look nice if they get knocked out at this stage of the tournament.

I agree that Manchester City struggles in Champions League matches. However, Pep Guardiola has learned from the past and will field a strong team in the second leg against RB Leipzig. The Etihad Stadium will be electric, and the fans will support their team at every turn. History shows that underdogs can win. Manchester City must score early to control the game. Hope for the best!

Regarding Chelsea, I'm not so sure they wwill advance. I think they can beat Burussia Dortmund after losing to Tottenham. We've seen football's unpredictable nature. Tottenham's is slightly better. Milan is tough to beat, but if they keep their momentum, they may win.

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Quote from: CryptoPanda on February 28, 2023, 05:15:19 AM

Chelsea's loss in the premier league to Spurs was humiliating and not the level at which the team should be performing. I think it is time to say goodbye and end contract with Graham Potter who has so far not been able to turn the situation around even with the much money invested in improving the squad. Against RB Leipzig is another opportunity to return some level of hope but only if they can get a win.

Chelsea's level is equal with the mediocre club. There's no need to think that chelsea can come back later caused by that an impossible thing to happen. Chelsea has no chance of making its comeback this season. potter was the problem in chelsea.

This guy is always inconsistent with its statement regarding with what happened with chelsea. Potter must go out. There will be chance for chelsea to win the upcoming match against dortmund if potter was still coaching chelsea.

Graham potter must fuck off from the club. Potter was just a parasite.

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