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Potter seems has found his formula to play in perfect form , giving times to him might have a lot of risk including on how chelsea dropped to their lowest form ... but let's see what he can do in champions league in few weeks.

I hope so. Being drawn with Liverpool in Chelsea was not so bad. Chelsea is now even better than before. I hope that new players that will be coming to the Chelsea will make the team able to go up again. Chelsea must have at least participated in the champion league or europa league next season.

But on the other hand, with Chelsea's current condition and with Todd's condition, who seems ambitious to bring in a lot of players now, it will also have an impact on their balance.
Hopefully this will turn out well but even if they can't be in an ideal position still at least they have to improve their current performance.
Their condition is in line with Liverpool, whose performance is slightly similar now. The difference is Todd, who is still very eager to add players, but at the moment apart from Gakpo, I even hear about others for Liverpool.

A draw with Liverpool in the Premier League still cannot be used as a benchmark for Chelsea's performance because even Liverpool are in a bad situation and condition this season. So, I can say Liverpool and Chelsea have decreased in quality this season so a draw for them still won't have any impact on their match in the Champions League.
Also, it doesn't matter how many new players they bring in, because it looks like this season will only be a season for them to make a few attempts to get back to having good quality next season.

It was an important fight for the Champions League qualifiers. Both teams tried very hard on the field, but they could not beat. This was actually a serious rehearsal for Liverpool before the Real Madrid match. Likewise, we can call Chelsea a friendly match for Dortmund. I see Chelsea more likely to win in the matchups, but I'm not sure what Liverpool can do against Real Madrid.

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If Chelsea had Tuchel now then maybe he could have made his magic and helped Chelsea go for a surprising achievement in the Champions League once again. He did it once when people weren't giving them much chance for it. Of course it is a very difficult task as for comparing the squad qualities. But it is never impossible as long as you know what you are doing against the other title contenders.

I don't know how successful they can be with Potter's management at least this season. Dortmund can already be a big challenge for them considering the recent forms. But reaching at least the quarter finals despite the bad effort in the EPL would still be a nice job.

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Potter seems has found his formula to play in perfect form , giving times to him might have a lot of risk including on how chelsea dropped to their lowest form ... but let's see what he can do in champions league in few weeks.

I hope so. Being drawn with Liverpool in Chelsea was not so bad. Chelsea is now even better than before. I hope that new players that will be coming to the Chelsea will make the team able to go up again. Chelsea must have at least participated in the champion league or europa league next season.

But on the other hand, with Chelsea's current condition and with Todd's condition, who seems ambitious to bring in a lot of players now, it will also have an impact on their balance.
Hopefully this will turn out well but even if they can't be in an ideal position still at least they have to improve their current performance.
Their condition is in line with Liverpool, whose performance is slightly similar now. The difference is Todd, who is still very eager to add players, but at the moment apart from Gakpo, I even hear about others for Liverpool.

Lot of players have been brought in to Chelsea but how well has there been a transformation, all those good great players without a good tactician is useless.
Things will turn out well with Chelsea but not sure currently with potter still in charge of that club, is Zidane really linked to Chelsea as media and internet says? Chelsea need to improve those player's Jorginho and Kante need to leave.
Liverpool offering other players contract but failed to do with Mane, they never wanted him.

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Quote from: Despairo on January 24, 2023, 12:19:43 AM

After looking on each clubs performance in their own local league, I think Club Brugge, FC Porto, Chelsea, Tottenham and Leipzig will lose since they'e not even reach top 2 on their own local league especially Chelsea which currently at 10th position. With this current performance, Manchester United and Real Sociedad are more deserved to play in Champions league.

The most tough match would be Frankfurt vs Napoli and PSG vs Bayern Munich, Frankfurt is really surprising can reach top 2 on Bundesliga while Bayern Munich is a king without crown.

But you forgot that Chelsea is playing with Dortmund which in turn is in sixth place in the Bundesliga. I think few people will argue that the Premier League, if we take the average level of teams, is stronger than the Bundesliga, so it turns out that Chelsea and Dortmund occupy comparable places. By the way, although Dortmund won in the last round, they conceded 3 goals from one of the outsiders in the home game. In my opinion, it is obvious that for Chelsea such an opponent is within their power.

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Potter seems has found his formula to play in perfect form , giving times to him might have a lot of risk including on how chelsea dropped to their lowest form ... but let's see what he can do in champions league in few weeks.

I hope so. Being drawn with Liverpool in Chelsea was not so bad. Chelsea is now even better than before. I hope that new players that will be coming to the Chelsea will make the team able to go up again. Chelsea must have at least participated in the champion league or europa league next season.

But on the other hand, with Chelsea's current condition and with Todd's condition, who seems ambitious to bring in a lot of players now, it will also have an impact on their balance.
Hopefully this will turn out well but even if they can't be in an ideal position still at least they have to improve their current performance.
Their condition is in line with Liverpool, whose performance is slightly similar now. The difference is Todd, who is still very eager to add players, but at the moment apart from Gakpo, I even hear about others for Liverpool.

A draw with Liverpool in the Premier League still cannot be used as a benchmark for Chelsea's performance because even Liverpool are in a bad situation and condition this season. So, I can say Liverpool and Chelsea have decreased in quality this season so a draw for them still won't have any impact on their match in the Champions League.
Also, it doesn't matter how many new players they bring in, because it looks like this season will only be a season for them to make a few attempts to get back to having good quality next season.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on January 24, 2023, 07:35:45 AM

I do believe there will be something different with Chelsea in the upcoming match against Dortmund. The result between Chelsea against Liverpool has been making me even more confident to believe chelsea will be able to beat dortmund.

They will try to beat Dortmund because winning Champions League is something really big and attractive. It is especially important for Chelsea because they almost won't be able to complete the season in top four. Winning Champions League will give them a privilege to be eligible for Champions League 2023 - 2024 even if they end Premier League 2022 - 2023 not within top four.

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Dormunt may lose some of its players at the end of this transfer season while Chelsea has been getting so many new players coming to the club. The performance from mudryk was making me amaze if chelsea was doing the right transfer.

It is only very first minutes of Mudryk for Chelsea and it is too early to assess his performance and success in Chelsea. At least it gives Chelsea some hope that it is a good player and the expensive transfer is well deserved.

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Even though the result was not making me feel satisfied but I do believe chelsea will be different when it will be facing dortmund. Potter has found a new strategy that is very suitable for Chelsea.

What is a new strategy found by Potter? I did not see any big change in Chelsea after the winter transfer. Some players came to Stamford Bridge but it is very vague about what kind of contribution they can make for Chelsea.

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After looking on each clubs performance in their own local league, I think Club Brugge, FC Porto, Chelsea, Tottenham and Leipzig will lose since they'e not even reach top 2 on their own local league especially Chelsea which currently at 10th position. With this current performance, Manchester United and Real Sociedad are more deserved to play in Champions league.
The most tough match would be Frankfurt vs Napoli and PSG vs Bayern Munich, Frankfurt is really surprising can reach top 2 on Bundesliga while Bayern Munich is a king without crown.

I think it is a little to easy and to superficial to just compare their rank in their native leagues in order to find out who is the favorite in their champions league match. For example, i personally think that FC Chelsea is definitely the favorite in their match against Borussia Dortmund even though Chelsea is only on rank 10 in the premier league while Borussia Dortmund is on rank 6 in the Bundesliga.
Even though Chelsea is having a pretty rough time at the moment, i still think that they have good chances to win here because Dortmund is also not playing not very well. They have won their last game with 4-3 but they received 3 goals from a below average Bundesliga team.

I do believe there will be something different with Chelsea in the upcoming match against Dortmund. The result between Chelsea against Liverpool has been making me even more confident to believe chelsea will be able to beat dortmund.
Dormunt may lose some of its players at the end of this transfer season while Chelsea has been getting so many new players coming to the club. The performance from mudryk was making me amaze if chelsea was doing the right transfer.
Even though the result was not making me feel satisfied but I do believe chelsea will be different when it will be facing dortmund. Potter has found a new strategy that is very suitable for Chelsea.

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Potter seems has found his formula to play in perfect form , giving times to him might have a lot of risk including on how chelsea dropped to their lowest form ... but let's see what he can do in champions league in few weeks.

I hope so. Being drawn with Liverpool in Chelsea was not so bad. Chelsea is now even better than before. I hope that new players that will be coming to the Chelsea will make the team able to go up again. Chelsea must have at least participated in the champion league or europa league next season.

But on the other hand, with Chelsea's current condition and with Todd's condition, who seems ambitious to bring in a lot of players now, it will also have an impact on their balance.
Hopefully this will turn out well but even if they can't be in an ideal position still at least they have to improve their current performance.
Their condition is in line with Liverpool, whose performance is slightly similar now. The difference is Todd, who is still very eager to add players, but at the moment apart from Gakpo, I even hear about others for Liverpool.

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Quote from: Despairo on January 24, 2023, 12:19:43 AM

After looking on each clubs performance in their own local league, I think Club Brugge, FC Porto, Chelsea, Tottenham and Leipzig will lose since they'e not even reach top 2 on their own local league especially Chelsea which currently at 10th position. With this current performance, Manchester United and Real Sociedad are more deserved to play in Champions league.
The most tough match would be Frankfurt vs Napoli and PSG vs Bayern Munich, Frankfurt is really surprising can reach top 2 on Bundesliga while Bayern Munich is a king without crown.

I think it is a little to easy and to superficial to just compare their rank in their native leagues in order to find out who is the favorite in their champions league match. For example, i personally think that FC Chelsea is definitely the favorite in their match against Borussia Dortmund even though Chelsea is only on rank 10 in the premier league while Borussia Dortmund is on rank 6 in the Bundesliga.
Even though Chelsea is having a pretty rough time at the moment, i still think that they have good chances to win here because Dortmund is also not playing not very well. They have won their last game with 4-3 but they received 3 goals from a below average Bundesliga team.

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Real Madrid this year is not in the best of their shape so Manchester City could have a chance.They just need to play relaxed as they surely have the man power to beat any team in the Champions League.I know that also Manchester City is not in the best of their form too but as I said they have truly world class players like Haaland which can clearly make a difference in this 2 encounters elimination.

It is true that Real Madrid this season has not been very convincing in its performance both in the regular league and in other competitions. Maybe the problem is due to the lack of refreshment in the midfield, we know that Modric and Kross are no longer able to be at the highest level due to the aging factor, in the end this problem causes the flow of the ball to the attack line to become clogged and sometimes deadlock. But I think we will find out how Real Madrid's performance will continue in the match that will start later against Liverpool. For Manchester City, for any team they will fight, it seems that it is not a bad problem for them. Having Halaand and De Bruyne all seem so easy this season.

I don't think we can judge Real Madrid just by its poor performance this season, because last season when Real Madrid won the Champions League was also the reality that Real Madrid was not having a very good performance. Not only that, even when Real Madrid played and then the available odds never put Real Madrid as the favorite team to win.
So, whatever performance Real Madrid is currently experiencing, they will still have the chance to go further and even win the title. But regarding Manchester City, I personally am still not completely sure because even though Manchester City has a very good squad, but they often find it difficult to win.

Indeed, when talking about Real Madrid in every game, we have to watch it until the last minute. Sometimes, even though they were behind by 2 or even 3 goals, Real Madrid was able to catch up and turn things around for Real Madrid's victory. So far, I actually don't see that there are too many problems, maybe it's just a matter of coordination in the midfield which I think will be a bit of a hindrance for the development of Real Madrid's game. In general, surely people will argue that the current Manchester City squad is the best, but we don't know if one of the matches of these two teams starts later. Will the performance continue to improve or even worsen.

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As a Chelsea supporter, I'm thrilled with the team's potential for improvement brought about by our recent signings.

New players are new blood streams for Chelsea and they are useful for them when many players are still injured or have yet recovered fully.

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t's true that it'll take some time for the team to gel and the coach to execute new methods, but I have trust that our leadership can handle the situation.

New players usually need time for training and playing with new coach and team-mates before they actually adapt to a new club with many new things: management philosophy, tactics, training center, build connections with new team-mates. It is so rarely to see newcomers can create big impacts shortly and if they succeed, they must be outstanding players and have lucky support too.

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Remembering that football is a team sport in which the success of the team depends on the efforts of each individual member is equally crucial. I think we have a shot at the playoffs if we can enhance our performance with the correct strategies and a concerted team effort.

That is what I am worrying about Chelsea situation. New players can not change all things including weakness in the club especially systematic weakness. They can bring some new motives but can not improve the club entirely. However if they can create some short-live effects which can be took advantage by other members in the club, some big impacts can happen.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on January 24, 2023, 12:09:59 AM

The major challenge that is causing Chelsea failure in this season is in the area of midfield because, since they removed the old midfielders and replaced with new ones has reduced Chelsea performance to zero level in this season. I guess, Chelsea can still get it right to improve in all their position to give their fans joy because, many people are not happy with their current performance. I believe they will beat Dortmund 2:0 to prepare the mind of people for a bigger victory.

It's still too early to predict the number of goals in the Chelsea vs Dortmund match, although it wouldn't be wrong to say it earlier because the match won't happen in the near future where both teams still have time to prepare themselves so they can be even better before the game Top 16 in the Champions League this season. Because Dortmund's appearance in the past two days in their domestic league also looked impressive with the victory that Dortmund got.

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The problem facing Chelsea is now very severe, entering the new year Chelsea was immediately hit with a storm of injuries, unfortunately the injured players are core players, so far 10 Chelsea players have been injured, starting from goalkeepers, midfielders and attackers, maybe because this situation makes you so sure dourmount can beat Chelsea in the Champions league, but in my personal opinion even though Chelsea is down but I believe Chelsea can keep up with dourmount's game and I also believe Chelsea can win a ticket to the last eight of the Champions league.

Some of their injured players are already coming back from injuries, I heard Loftus Cheek is back as well as Ngolo Kante who is now training with the first team so Hopefully in a matter of time Chelsea will get back to momentum and back to winning ways again. They have good players and with the new additions the team will improve and get better soon. I can't say much about qualifying to the quarter finals of the Champions league but their comeback will determine that.

Only relying on good players based on their individual skills, that doesn't help much in today's modern football. bringing in Mudryk is not the answer to everything Chelsea needs. Chelsea must also build from the defense sector, midfield, as well as sharp finishing. and right now, Potter could only take advantage of the available players. there is no other choice, until all the players recover from injury. that way Potter has many choices, according to what he wants to be his main starting line-up.

To be honest with the current situation, I really doubt that Chelsea will be able to move on to the next phase. if against Dortmund, Chelsea still has a chance to win the round of 16 match. but in the next phase, it looks like it will be very difficult for Graham Potter's squad.

As for the opponent later, Dortmund started its first match in the second round of the season with perfect results. although, there are still some gaps that become their weaknesses. I think Dortmund is not an easy opponent for Chelsea to beat. the reason is, Dortmund is in a transition in a better direction. Let's just see the development of these two teams, carry out their matches in the domestic league before the round of 16 starts.

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Chelsea has some great signing player's
But potter still needs to be sacked because he cannot coach a great club as Chelsea
Linked with Zidane he will not do a better job either not even Pochetino who is not having no tactics

Did you watched the last match of chelsea in domestic league?

There are some improvements that happened with Chelsea. Chelsea was getting a good result to be drawn in the anfield. Chelsea was also pressing Liverpool in anfield which liverpool's home. Mudryk has been performing so well with Chelsea. It seems like that Chelsea will be starting to improve its performance in EPL. I hope that will be also giving impact to the performance of club in UCL.

For now, I can't be sure that Chelsea's position can really improve. Because to be able to appear qualified with the current composition has not shown significant progress. It takes a long process to rise from adversity. Little by little, Chelsea's hopes can be seen, but that doesn't mean the result is satisfactory. There are still quite a lot of twists and turns that they will face. If at the end of this season, Chelsea cannot finish, maybe they will have a little trouble gaining the trust of the fans. What's more, coach Potter still can't solve the problem in his own team.

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not really, teams like PSG and Man City struggle in the champions league even with the good players they have, their leagues and the Champions League are two different competitions and we saw some inconsistencies in their performance and one bad match is all it takes for th to be out of it.

The inconsistencies that happened with city and PSG already happened since a few years ago. I know both have sent so much money but yeah those clubs were not so lucky competing in the UCL. PSG and City have been hiring great coaches but these two teams seem very difficult winning UCL trophy especially pep guardiola who has been aiming to get UCL since he was coming to manchester city, city was very consistent in the EPL but it's not in another competition like UCL.
That proves that it doesn't matter how big your team and winning UCL is still a very difficult task to be done.

They have money, they have very quality players, they also have a great coach. But those facts do not guarantee that there will be great success for them in the Champions League. They are still unable to compete with a team that has a sweet history in this Champions League. Even so, they are quite lucky because with the money they have, they can talk more about the Champions League even though they haven't tasted the title yet.

That's it. You get my points. that reminds me of an underrated team that was always getting blamed by various supporters like Chelsea. This club was actually getting underrated but this club was able to win UCL a few times compared with those clubs which has lots of money for the domestic league only. Manchester City and PSG were always good in qualifying for the champion league but not for being able to win the competition. I don't know why people were always picking those clubs as most favorites while they never won UCL at least 1 time.
Money may buy you the spot to be played in the champion league but it's not about giving you a guarantee to become a champion in UCL. History has proven it.

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Quote from: EdenHazard on January 23, 2023, 04:31:18 PM

Quote from: D-law on January 21, 2023, 06:53:43 PM

Chelsea has some great signing player's
But potter still needs to be sacked because he cannot coach a great club as Chelsea
Linked with Zidane he will not do a better job either not even Pochetino who is not having no tactics

Did you watched the last match of chelsea in domestic league?

There are some improvements that happened with Chelsea. Chelsea was getting a good result to be drawn in the anfield. Chelsea was also pressing Liverpool in anfield which liverpool's home. Mudryk has been performing so well with Chelsea. It seems like that Chelsea will be starting to improve its performance in EPL. I hope that will be also giving impact to the performance of club in UCL.

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Potter seems has found his formula to play in perfect form , giving times to him might have a lot of risk including on how chelsea dropped to their lowest form ... but let's see what he can do in champions league in few weeks.

I hope so. Being drawn with Liverpool in Chelsea was not so bad. Chelsea is now even better than before. I hope that new players that will be coming to the Chelsea will make the team able to go up again. Chelsea must have at least participated in the champion league or europa league next season.

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Quote from: Despairo on January 24, 2023, 12:19:43 AM

The most tough match would be Frankfurt vs Napoli and PSG vs Bayern Munich, Frankfurt is really surprising can reach top 2 on Bundesliga while Bayern Munich is a king without crown.

In the Frankfurt vs Napoli match, however, Napoli seems to be favourites. Because they have been performing consistently well since the beginning of the season. Napoli are at the top of the Serie A points table. And they are dominating every match and managing to win. But it is difficult to speculate on Frankfurt's performance. Frankfurt has the ability to surprise everyone with a win against any big team.

PSG and Bayern Munich are two very strong teams. And both are aiming for the Champions League title. And I would say that both have the ability to win the Champions League title. And so it is not possible to predict the outcome of this match. Both teams have a 50-50 chance of winning.

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For sure Chelsea have good players but the problem Chelsea is having is how they can manage this players they have to be consistent. I don't see Chelsea getting better with Graham Potter, he is incompetent to revive the team to how it is supposed to be.

Chelsea is still in the process of transitioning its team to the new team. I meant so many players being bought by Chelsea. These players have been expected to replace the old players that may leave from the club as soon as possible like mount, broja, ziyech, mendy, and many more. There are still more time for Chelsea to get chemistry between the new players in the club. Let's see what's gonna happen with Chelsea until the end of transfer season. We can't sure about the result of Chelsea in UCL until we will be getting the result between Chelsea against Dortmund.

yes, Chelsea still has time to make its best squad in the best performance before the meeting with Dortmund. this will probably require quite a lot of hard work from the coach to do it. the names of the matches will be replaced by new names, and of course, it will also take time for players to have chemistry.
hopefully, the money spent by Chelsea can make their game improve. if they still finish in the middle of the Premier League standings, that means they have suffered a big failure.

Chelsea's performance has not been good in the last few matches. Players have lost form. They are failing to give their best performance. So Chelsea won only 1 of the last 5 matches. They need to improve more. I don't see good performances from their attacking players in the last matches. Darmund, on the other hand, doesn't seem to be doing much better now. Like Chelsea, Dortmund's situation is also somewhat unstable. Both teams still have plenty of time to find their weaknesses and fix them. But I am not sure how successful they will be

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After looking on each clubs performance in their own local league, I think Club Brugge, FC Porto, Chelsea, Tottenham and Leipzig will lose since they'e not even reach top 2 on their own local league especially Chelsea which currently at 10th position. With this current performance, Manchester United and Real Sociedad are more deserved to play in Champions league.

The most tough match would be Frankfurt vs Napoli and PSG vs Bayern Munich, Frankfurt is really surprising can reach top 2 on Bundesliga while Bayern Munich is a king without crown.

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For sure Chelsea have good players but the problem Chelsea is having is how they can manage this players they have to be consistent. I don't see Chelsea getting better with Graham Potter, he is incompetent to revive the team to how it is supposed to be.

Chelsea is still in the process of transitioning its team to the new team. I meant so many players being bought by Chelsea. These players have been expected to replace the old players that may leave from the club as soon as possible like mount, broja, ziyech, mendy, and many more. There are still more time for Chelsea to get chemistry between the new players in the club. Let's see what's gonna happen with Chelsea until the end of transfer season. We can't sure about the result of Chelsea in UCL until we will be getting the result between Chelsea against Dortmund.

The major challenge that is causing Chelsea failure in this season is in the area of midfield because, since they removed the old midfielders and replaced with new ones has reduced Chelsea performance to zero level in this season. I guess, Chelsea can still get it right to improve in all their position to give their fans joy because, many people are not happy with their current performance. I believe they will beat Dortmund 2:0 to prepare the mind of people for a bigger victory.

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