UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season - page 632.

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It is their way back of course if they do well in La Liga. It is their bread and butter for the moment and they are trying to make it a forgotten fact. I think for this year that Napoli is among the biggest favorite. They are not the typical club like PSG or Manchester City, but the way they are currently performing makes them one of the best teams in that competition.

I think we need to see the debut of the top 16 teams from different leagues to see how good they are in this competition.
Even though so far Napoli has appear quite tough in Serie A, what needs to be considered is that the teams play in the Champions League are the best teams represent their each league. This of course will be very different from Serie A, Napoli will meet the opponent who have never before they found in Serie A

Napoli can play well in Serie A, the point advantage that Napoli collected from Milan who is in second place makes Spalletti team very comfortable at the top of the standings. Napoli's might will be tested by other favorite clubs in the UCL, it is very difficult for Napoli to compete with other championship candidates because they are not mentally strong enough to be the best in European competition.
PSG and Manchester City, who have wanted the UCL trophy for a long time, have never been able to get it, in terms of the quality of Napoli's players, they are still below PSG and Manchester City. When Napoli face a favorite club, Napoli's chances of losing are huge.

They beat Liverpool in the group stage with 4:1 although Liverpool wasn't in great shape, but still you first have to do it and it is easier said than done. Now against Frankfurt I think they are the favorite. There are also the big games where at least two favorites get kicked out. Their chances are good to make it quite far in this champions league season. Out of the four favorites PSG, Bayern, Madrid and Liverpool, two get kicked out no matter what. That raises the chances for the other teams.

In the match between Liverpool and Real Madrid, Real Madrid is undoubtedly the favorite. Liverpool's team is not weak. They have a strong squad. But their performance is erratic. Squad players are not performing well. In this situation, it is almost impossible for them to win against a strong opponent like Real Madrid. Madrid is an experienced team. At the same time coach Ancelotti is very clever.

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It is their way back of course if they do well in La Liga. It is their bread and butter for the moment and they are trying to make it a forgotten fact. I think for this year that Napoli is among the biggest favorite. They are not the typical club like PSG or Manchester City, but the way they are currently performing makes them one of the best teams in that competition.

I think we need to see the debut of the top 16 teams from different leagues to see how good they are in this competition.
Even though so far Napoli has appear quite tough in Serie A, what needs to be considered is that the teams play in the Champions League are the best teams represent their each league. This of course will be very different from Serie A, Napoli will meet the opponent who have never before they found in Serie A

Napoli can play well in Serie A, the point advantage that Napoli collected from Milan who is in second place makes Spalletti team very comfortable at the top of the standings. Napoli's might will be tested by other favorite clubs in the UCL, it is very difficult for Napoli to compete with other championship candidates because they are not mentally strong enough to be the best in European competition.
PSG and Manchester City, who have wanted the UCL trophy for a long time, have never been able to get it, in terms of the quality of Napoli's players, they are still below PSG and Manchester City. When Napoli face a favorite club, Napoli's chances of losing are huge.

They beat Liverpool in the group stage with 4:1 although Liverpool wasn't in great shape, but still you first have to do it and it is easier said than done. Now against Frankfurt I think they are the favorite. There are also the big games where at least two favorites get kicked out. Their chances are good to make it quite far in this champions league season. Out of the four favorites PSG, Bayern, Madrid and Liverpool, two get kicked out no matter what. That raises the chances for the other teams.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on November 25, 2022, 04:34:41 PM

Quote from: Iranus on November 25, 2022, 03:26:13 PM

Frankfurt is not a strong team. They are very lucky to have qualified for the round of 16 of the Champions League. I don't think Frankfurt has any chance of winning against Napoli.

Seems like you have watched champion's league for just a few seasons.You will be surprised when the tables turn Grin

Eintracht Frankfurt is no team to underestimate and I think they can pull off a surprise on a good day.

Quote from: iamsange on November 25, 2022, 04:23:30 PM

And I certainly really hope that Manchester City and PSG will be ideal Finalists.

I hope not

It will be the first Champion's League final I won't watch since I started in 2002.

Football , yeah we are talking about football where a couple of minutes could change everything.

Despite yeah statistically so far napoli looks unstoppable with the recent form and much better but not even 90minutes x2 , like i said it requires a couple minutes to change the situation , we have witnessed it all time to time , nobody should be underestimated at this stage.

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Yes, Manchester City and PSG will return to the attention of many people this season. These two wealthy teams are very ambitious to be able to win the Champions League title for the first time for them. But in my opinion, Manchester City is more likely to realize his dream. And I certainly really hope that Manchester City and PSG will be ideal Finalists.

Manchester City and PSG have spent a lot of money and have managed to form a stable and strong team this season. Galtier and Guardiola are doing quite well. They have strengthened their team. I guess PSG can qualify for the final if PSG can win the next match against Bayern. On the other hand, if Haaland of Manchester City continues to perform consistently well, then they are capable of winning against any team.

The most difficult thing to win against bayern. Messi has worst history with bayern. messi was always losing in almost all of matches against bayern as bayern known so well about how to prevent messi from getting the ball. City and PSG have spent lots of money since a few years ago but these team are not able to winning the champion league till now which proves money is not a key to win the champion league at this moment. It must be a good team work that will be helping the team a lot to win the trophy.
Even chelsea able to did it for two times.

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Quote from: iamsange on November 25, 2022, 04:23:30 PM

Yes, Manchester City and PSG will return to the attention of many people this season. These two wealthy teams are very ambitious to be able to win the Champions League title for the first time for them. But in my opinion, Manchester City is more likely to realize his dream. And I certainly really hope that Manchester City and PSG will be ideal Finalists.

Manchester City and PSG have spent a lot of money and have managed to form a stable and strong team this season. Galtier and Guardiola are doing quite well. They have strengthened their team. I guess PSG can qualify for the final if PSG can win the next match against Bayern. On the other hand, if Haaland of Manchester City continues to perform consistently well, then they are capable of winning against any team.

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Quote from: nara1892 on November 25, 2022, 09:15:12 AM

Unlucky indeed became one of the factors why we did not see Barcelona in the round of 16, also indeed their game in the Champions League was not more promising when they played in La Liga matches. Maybe this happened because in the Champions League the team they faced had a better mentality than the team in La Liga. We'll see how they were beaten by Inter Milan and also Bayern Munich, 2 teams from Serie A and the Bundesliga.
I don't think they only focus on La Liga and that's why they aren't optimal in the Champions League. I agree with what you said that these two titles are the prestigious titles they definitely want. But for the Champions League they have to be more patient and wait until their situation is more stable and solid after going through several problems from the previous season.

If we talk unlucky, Barcelona is less fortunate from the factor of the players getting injured. in particular, the two Barcelona defenders. the rest, purely Xavi's strategic mistakes and the poor performance of his players. moreover, if you look at the roles of Busquet and Pique, who made several blunders.

Xavi is too confident with the same strategy, he rarely even experiments with rotating his players. Xavi has always prioritized La Masia players to be the main straters, Gavi and Pedri, De Jong who is more experienced is always placed as a substitute player. on the wing, Raphinha did not contribute at all to the Champions League, but Xavi remains confident in his plans and strategies, even though Barcelona have the option to play Ansu Fati.

in the end, Xavi realized that the strategy he was implementing was not working effectively in the champions league. then he tried to rotate players, but unfortunately he realized it too late. Barcelona has a good depth of players, but it's a shame Xavi can't optimize his players. at least, Barcelona needs time to become strong so that they are on par with other big teams competing in the champions league.

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Quote from: Iranus on November 25, 2022, 03:26:13 PM

Frankfurt is not a strong team. They are very lucky to have qualified for the round of 16 of the Champions League. I don't think Frankfurt has any chance of winning against Napoli.

Seems like you have watched champion's league for just a few seasons.You will be surprised when the tables turn Grin

Eintracht Frankfurt is no team to underestimate and I think they can pull off a surprise on a good day.

Quote from: iamsange on November 25, 2022, 04:23:30 PM

And I certainly really hope that Manchester City and PSG will be ideal Finalists.

I hope not

It will be the first Champion's League final I won't watch since I started in 2002.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 25, 2022, 02:30:34 PM

Could this be another year for Real Madrid to make it to the title here?

We have been focusing on Manchester City and PSG mostly for a long time. Because they have the best squad qualities technically and both of them have zero Champions League title in their histories. We are wondering which one of them will win their first title before than the other one. In the meantime, Real Madrid continue to get close to them silently. Real Madrid eliminated both of these teams last season. If they eliminate Liverpool in this round maybe we will see another matchup between Real Madrid and PSG or Manchester City. I would be really curious whether they can have revenge on Real Madrid this time.

Real Madrid are still the favorites to win the title again. But this season their performance began to decline. Toni Kroos and Luca Modric are completely unreliable due to age, and Benzema is also often plagued by injuries.

Yes, Manchester City and PSG will return to the attention of many people this season. These two wealthy teams are very ambitious to be able to win the Champions League title for the first time for them. But in my opinion, Manchester City is more likely to realize his dream. And I certainly really hope that Manchester City and PSG will be ideal Finalists.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 25, 2022, 02:29:36 PM

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Talking about Eintracht Frankfurt, I also think that they cannot be underestimated at all at this moment, because even Eintracht Frankfurt last season managed to get rid of Barcelona in the Europa League. Also, Eintracht Frankfurt started this season in the Bundesliga not so well, but as time goes by Eintracht Frankfurt can get into the top four in the Bundesliga and at least that proves that Eintracht Frankfurt really can't be underestimated this season.
Napoli and Eintracht Frankfurt at this moment are teams that are experiencing an impressive increase in performance, so that any results in this match can still happen.
I mean, even though Napoli is an unbeaten team in Serie A, that still can't guarantee that Napoli will get the convenience to go further in this Champions League.
Therefore, I personally still can't say that Napoli will win. Also, whether or not they have changed after the break, I'm still pretty sure that Eintracht Frankfurt will still provide strong resistance in this match, which means that Napoli and Eintracht Frankfurt will never be easy to get a win at this stage.

Eintracht Frankfurt were in one of the weakest groups in the Champions League and scored just over 50% of the points in second place. Still, I think that this is their ceiling and Napoli will easily win this confrontation. This is not the Europa League where it is possible to underestimate the opponent or lack motivation. It seems to me that Napoli will play to win in both meetings and may decide the issue already in Frankfurt.

Napoli is in very good form. They are performing well in every match. And Napoli has no weaknesses in attack, midfield and defense at the moment. The team is stable and the important thing is that the bond between the team players is very good. And because the bond is so good, Napoli is able to consistently perform well every season. Napoli doesn't seem to have any problem getting a win against Frankfurt. Frankfurt is not a strong team. They are very lucky to have qualified for the round of 16 of the Champions League. I don't think Frankfurt has any chance of winning against Napoli.

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Could this be another year for Real Madrid to make it to the title here?

We have been focusing on Manchester City and PSG mostly for a long time. Because they have the best squad qualities technically and both of them have zero Champions League title in their histories. We are wondering which one of them will win their first title before than the other one. In the meantime, Real Madrid continue to get close to them silently. Real Madrid eliminated both of these teams last season. If they eliminate Liverpool in this round maybe we will see another matchup between Real Madrid and PSG or Manchester City. I would be really curious whether they can have revenge on Real Madrid this time.

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Quote from: hahay on November 25, 2022, 11:20:09 AM

Talking about Eintracht Frankfurt, I also think that they cannot be underestimated at all at this moment, because even Eintracht Frankfurt last season managed to get rid of Barcelona in the Europa League. Also, Eintracht Frankfurt started this season in the Bundesliga not so well, but as time goes by Eintracht Frankfurt can get into the top four in the Bundesliga and at least that proves that Eintracht Frankfurt really can't be underestimated this season.
Napoli and Eintracht Frankfurt at this moment are teams that are experiencing an impressive increase in performance, so that any results in this match can still happen.

I mean, even though Napoli is an unbeaten team in Serie A, that still can't guarantee that Napoli will get the convenience to go further in this Champions League.
Therefore, I personally still can't say that Napoli will win. Also, whether or not they have changed after the break, I'm still pretty sure that Eintracht Frankfurt will still provide strong resistance in this match, which means that Napoli and Eintracht Frankfurt will never be easy to get a win at this stage.

Eintracht Frankfurt were in one of the weakest groups in the Champions League and scored just over 50% of the points in second place. Still, I think that this is their ceiling and Napoli will easily win this confrontation. This is not the Europa League where it is possible to underestimate the opponent or lack motivation. It seems to me that Napoli will play to win in both meetings and may decide the issue already in Frankfurt.

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I don't think Barcelona is too focused on La Liga and they don't do big efforts to win the matches in UCL. Both UCL title and La Liga title are prestigious titles, they must prioritize both of them. They must know that winning UCL title or La Liga title is not easy, they are competing with strong teams. Although in La Liga they only compete with Real Madrid and they can lead the table, there is no guarantee they can maintain first place until the end of the season. So, no reason that they only focus on La Liga because they think they are easier to win it. If they failed in UCL, I think it was because they were unlucky. They must be serious to play in UCL and they already did big efforts.

I think you are right, Barcelona is focused on the Champions League this season without reducing its focus on other competitions such as Laliga. I am very disappointed by Barcelona's failure this season to qualify for the last 16, but I believe they have done something great trying to beat stronger and better teams like Inter and Bayern Munich.

I admit that Barcelona has been very unlucky in the Champions League this season, because they have to work hard to beat strong teams, one of which is the favorite to win the title this season. Barcelona failed in a good way, I mean they played well but it's difficult to win.

Barcelona has been a team in complete disarray for the last few seasons. Their performance was terrible. They did not perform well even against weaker teams. Xavi is trying to stabilize this troubled team. It cannot be said that he succeeded. Barcelona is not completely stable yet. But Xavi spent a lot of money. The team has brought in several talented star players. Barcelona's performance is still unstable. Barcelona needs more time to stabilize. Perhaps we will see better gameplay from them next season.

Barcelona's performance in the Champions League this season has been very disappointing. No one predicted that they would be eliminated in the group stage. But now they should try their hardest to win the Europa League and La Liga titles.

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Quote from: Yurkov on November 25, 2022, 01:11:02 PM

Napoli have had a great performance so far. They have a strong playing XI that has been impressively winning against any opposition team. I think they might perform better after the World Cup. Napoli have the potential to do well.

Napoli are no doubt having a swell season thus far, both in the CL and in their own league, the seria A, it almost feels certain that at least one trophy will be making its way to Naples at the end of the season, personally i think that trophy would be the Seria A title; as for the CL i don't think there's a chance in hell that Napoli are going to win it, but make no mistake about it that they are going to go pretty far, i think they are the dark horse in this season's competition, and if they make it past the RO16 stage, and thus get a fair QF draw, i'd not be surprise to see them in the SF which will be a huge achievement. Having said that, the WC shouldn't affect them, though it might slow down their momentum, but if the manager can rally his boys up pretty quickly, then they would start off immediately where they stopped, not that they even have many players representing their countries in the WC.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on November 24, 2022, 06:42:05 PM

I don't think Barcelona is too focused on La Liga and they don't do big efforts to win the matches in UCL. Both UCL title and La Liga title are prestigious titles, they must prioritize both of them. They must know that winning UCL title or La Liga title is not easy, they are competing with strong teams. Although in La Liga they only compete with Real Madrid and they can lead the table, there is no guarantee they can maintain first place until the end of the season. So, no reason that they only focus on La Liga because they think they are easier to win it. If they failed in UCL, I think it was because they were unlucky. They must be serious to play in UCL and they already did big efforts.

I think you are right, Barcelona is focused on the Champions League this season without reducing its focus on other competitions such as Laliga. I am very disappointed by Barcelona's failure this season to qualify for the last 16, but I believe they have done something great trying to beat stronger and better teams like Inter and Bayern Munich.

I admit that Barcelona has been very unlucky in the Champions League this season, because they have to work hard to beat strong teams, one of which is the favorite to win the title this season. Barcelona failed in a good way, I mean they played well but it's difficult to win.

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Chelsea was the best team in the list, so my support will be Chelsea. In all the game only 4-6 countries will be the best. But their is the reason for making the league against 16 different countries. It give the importance to give all the nations in the game. If the weak nation improves their game and make the stronger country to defeat. So giving importance in the game was essential one and it’s sportsman equality. Mostly the gender inequality in the sports, it should eliminated only by the head of the sports and head of sports for Nation. Not a common man can change anything by his efforts to gender inequality.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on November 25, 2022, 10:31:59 AM

I don't think with Napoli not in the favorite named list for Champion League winning because in group stage have won 5 matches and 1 loss, current top standing at domestic league and become the only team with unbeaten record I think must be taken in favorite team with great achievement at Champion League. No doubt with player quality under PSG, Manchester City and Real Madrid but with weakness Frankfurt opponent at next round I am optimistic with Napoli can lead until quarter or semifinal at champion league.

Have eliminated in the list favorite named for champion league trophy between PSG or Bayern Munich because both team have to face on 16 round, I think left Real Madrid have strength team favorite back to back become the winner in Champion League.

With the performance surely Napoli is having fair chance to win double in this season because until know their performance and quality is having good edge from their opponents in both leagues, and we can expect good end for them like we have in last season from Real Madrid even bookmakers are as usual still having Manchester City, Bayern Munich and PSG in their hot favourite teams list which is nothing new because in last few years we have this trend from them even these are not winning but their strength and quality is surely amazing.

In this season we have poor performance from few top teams which is clearly indicating changes will happen, and they could be in better shape for the future because with this performance and quality these teams can't survive after break if Napoli have no big problem from any injury or sell of player then surely this season they can go until last four without any big threat.

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Quote from: zuzie on November 25, 2022, 09:32:32 AM

I think we need to see the debut of the top 16 teams from different leagues to see how good they are in this competition.
Even though so far Napoli has appear quite tough in Serie A, what needs to be considered is that the teams play in the Champions League are the best teams represent their each league. This of course will be very different from Serie A, Napoli will meet the opponent who have never before they found in Serie A

Of course the teams in the top 16 are the best teams from their league and also from a group of 4 their teams are the best. The Champions League also cannot be equated with the domestic league where they play, that is an unequal comparison in my opinion. Napoli are playing very well this season, but with the team they will face is a big team that also has the same mission it will make it difficult for them in every game. I want to see how far they can go in the Champions League this season.

Champions League is cream of the soccer world with every player and every club from Europe wants to play this which is surely an honor for every person related to soccer here no comparison with other teams as all are coming after giving their best into their domestic leagues which is having another level system but here in Champions League we can expect good competition with top rank teams can go into last 16 and this is never been easy even top teams for different countries can lose against low rank other teams because on the game day performance and strategy is the best part of their win.

Napoli in current season giving their best in both leagues which is surely amazing from them now they are having fair chance for going into last eight after this we can expect another challenging competition between top teams which is having another level in soccer world.

Napoli have had a great performance so far. They have a strong playing XI that has been impressively winning against any opposition team. I think they might perform better after the World Cup. Napoli have the potential to do well.

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Quote from: zuzie on November 25, 2022, 09:32:32 AM

I think we need to see the debut of the top 16 teams from different leagues to see how good they are in this competition.
Even though so far Napoli has appear quite tough in Serie A, what needs to be considered is that the teams play in the Champions League are the best teams represent their each league. This of course will be very different from Serie A, Napoli will meet the opponent who have never before they found in Serie A

Of course the teams in the top 16 are the best teams from their league and also from a group of 4 their teams are the best. The Champions League also cannot be equated with the domestic league where they play, that is an unequal comparison in my opinion. Napoli are playing very well this season, but with the team they will face is a big team that also has the same mission it will make it difficult for them in every game. I want to see how far they can go in the Champions League this season.

Champions League is cream of the soccer world with every player and every club from Europe wants to play this which is surely an honor for every person related to soccer here no comparison with other teams as all are coming after giving their best into their domestic leagues which is having another level system but here in Champions League we can expect good competition with top rank teams can go into last 16 and this is never been easy even top teams for different countries can lose against low rank other teams because on the game day performance and strategy is the best part of their win.

Napoli in current season giving their best in both leagues which is surely amazing from them now they are having fair chance for going into last eight after this we can expect another challenging competition between top teams which is having another level in soccer world.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on November 24, 2022, 05:39:45 PM

That is what happened to Barcelona not qualifying in the Champions league, Barcelona was playing very poor but in the laliga they put in all energy to win their games. Maybe inters prefer to win the Champions league for the season. For sometime Barcelona have not been able to win trophies that is why they concentrate and put more effort in winning laliga.

Their main issue in the Champions League was that they were playing really poorly against powerful teams. They were able to defeat only Plzen in the group stage. Can you imagine that? They collected only one point after playing four matches in total against Inter and Bayern Munich. This is like the most alarming issue for Barcelona these days. Otherwise they don't make simple mistakes against weaker teams. Their La Liga performance is the best example for that.

Like I said in the La Liga topic before, Xavi needs to take the tough matches more seriously. He has gained a lot of experience so far. This must be helpful for him in his Europa League matches for example. They have a really tough matchup against Manchester United ahead of them in the end.

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Quote from: zuzie on November 25, 2022, 09:32:32 AM

I think we need to see the debut of the top 16 teams from different leagues to see how good they are in this competition.
Even though so far Napoli has appear quite tough in Serie A, what needs to be considered is that the teams play in the Champions League are the best teams represent their each league. This of course will be very different from Serie A, Napoli will meet the opponent who have never before they found in Serie A

Of course the teams in the top 16 are the best teams from their league and also from a group of 4 their teams are the best. The Champions League also cannot be equated with the domestic league where they play, that is an unequal comparison in my opinion. Napoli are playing very well this season, but with the team they will face is a big team that also has the same mission it will make it difficult for them in every game. I want to see how far they can go in the Champions League this season.

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