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Quote from: babo on September 01, 2023, 02:24:08 AM

Naples didn't go very well with luck. He's in the same group as Real Madrid while it went very well at Inter, who knows if he'll be able to take advantage of this luck.
Italian teams can make it through to the group stage.
Even Barcelona is not going badly for him, a simple group after all.

Bayern munich might be my choice to win Group A because they have everything to beat their opponents. Moreover, Harry Kane has become their goal machine this season, so there is no big doubt for Bayern Munich to win the Group. Apart from that, Barcelona, who returned to mighty last season after winning the Laliga trophy, made them the most feared by their opponents in Group H.

Now the most interesting thing is of course Group F because it is filled with big teams which makes Group F difficult to predict who will qualify for the next round. Indeed every season there are always surprises in the group phase like last season when Barcelona had to be eliminated early. So, will this season PSG be eliminated early and that could happen if they are not consistent in every game.

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Quote from: Docnaster on September 01, 2023, 04:23:17 PM

With the recent performances of Newcastle United over the last 12 months, I don't think they're the dark horses in a group that comprises Borussia Dortmund and AC Milan. Though when talking about the history of the UEFA Champions League competition, the three teams that are grouped with Newcastle has a better records than the Magpies but Newcastle's current form is better than Borussia Dortmund.
It is the most difficult group of the competition but I'm backing Newcastle to qualify from the group.

let's see how Eddie Howe can handle the pressure that is on his squad after joining the group of death in the group phase. PSG and AC Milan are favorites to qualify for the next round, but before that this is just a mere prediction which may not necessarily come true. Even other teams will not think Newcastle United is weak because they have quality players who are good enough to compete in the Champions League this season.

Dortmund maybe they have lost their best strength this season and that is their weak point after Bellingham left. I think Dortmund and Newcastle United are quite equal in strength but with PSG or AC Milan I think they are stronger than Newcastle United or Dortmund.

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Quote from: bitpotter on September 01, 2023, 04:07:08 PM

Last season was probably one of Napoli's biggest milestones in the champions league and I agree they just need to get used to this competition to get something better. Even now, the Napoli squad is still filled with defensive players and all of them will only have to develop their abilities further. The champions league competition is the toughest and all the teams are competing against each other to win this title. Napoli's match against Real Madrid in the group phase was the most exciting and we can assume that these two teams will advance to the next round.

They also have a new coach, so it is still not certain that they will consistently perform like before. But fortunately, they still have Oshimen and several other key players who strengthened Napoli previously. So, they also have to try optimally in this Champions League. This won't be easy. yes, they are in a group with Real Madrid and this is of course quite difficult. But fortunately, at least they are one of the strongest clubs in the group. Although in fact, Real Madrid this season is also not in optimal condition, but they are still strong enough to compete in the UCL.

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In group B of this Champions League, we have Sevilla and Arsenal in the same group, Sevilla is the team that won the European League in last season and they are known for their good performance in that tournament ....

It's still not certain, Sevilla often makes surprises when playing outside La Liga. In La Liga itself, they often play badly, even this time, they started the season very badly, again being in the bottom relegation zone. but like last season, they actually played very well in the European league. So I think maybe they will also be different in the UCL. But once again, it still can't be confirmed because they are not consistent enough and often make extraordinary surprises, whether they suddenly lose or are from an unexpected club.

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In group B of this Champions League, we have Sevilla and Arsenal in the same group, Sevilla is the team that won the European League in last season and they are known for their good performance in that tournament while this time Sevilla is going to play in Chmapnios league where they have to play against stronger teams, in the other hand these two teams Arsenal and Sevilla played two times against each other in 2007-2008 and each team on for once.

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Eddie Howe's Newcastle are in Group F, definitely the Group Of Death

They will face PSG, Borussia Dortmund and AC Milan. It’ll be really tough but they can definitely do it. Newcastle’s home form will be key. There aren’t many better crowds to play in front of.

So far I see in every post, indeed many of them doubt the ability of Newcastle United because they think that Newcastle United is a dark horse team in Group F.
I think that is quite natural because Newcastle United has been absent from the Champions League for quite a long time, but this season they are back in the Champions League and immediately face a big challenge because they are in Group F.
Where Group F is filled by teams that are quite experienced in the Champions League.

Eddie Howe thinks that Newcastle United will be able to be the best in Group F, especially if they can give a surprise if they can beat the three big teams. This will be a quite crucial step and a tough job for Newcastle United in the group phase.

With the recent performances of Newcastle United over the last 12 months, I don't think they're the dark horses in a group that comprises Borussia Dortmund and AC Milan. Though when talking about the history of the UEFA Champions League competition, the three teams that are grouped with Newcastle has a better records than the Magpies but Newcastle's current form is better than Borussia Dortmund.
It is the most difficult group of the competition but I'm backing Newcastle to qualify from the group.

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Group F, PSG and Milan

I have doubts in this group.
Group f for now is the only group that is difficult to predict who will qualify because looking at the condition of the club and how they are in the domestic competition, they are really a very good club now.
PSG is definitely the strongest candidate to qualify but even if that's the case seeing them in the first few games in Ligue 1 it's still not really a sure thing.
On the other hand, Newcastle, Dortmund and Milan I think their quality is quite balanced now. Although Newcastle is a new club to the Champions League but looking at last season's performance and the strength of their money backed by Seikh it makes them strong now so I think for this club it is complicated in saying who will qualify from the group phase.

Newcastle are in the toughest group and of the three other clubs in their group, it is Newcastle who are most doubtful about qualifying, and it seems that in this group the competition will only be between PSG, Dortmund, and AC Milan, but my prediction will qualify for the knockout phase PSG and AC Milan, as Dortmund are not looking so good after selling their flagship midfielder and Newcastle's lack of experience in this tournament will make it difficult for them to compete, both their squad and their coach are inexperienced here.
Of the four clubs in the English Premier League, Manchester City got an easy draw which is predictable because as the defending champion they will be very favored and Manchester United in Group A is also not a difficult group unless they are not able to play well, but the luckiest is Arsenal because They are only in the same group with Sevilla, who are performing poorly in domestic competition, and PSV and Lens, whose players are not better than Arsenal, but this will be Arsenal's young squad's first experience in the Champions League, as well as Arteta as a coach, but they should not experience any problems. to get past the group stage, because the level of competition is lower than group F where Newcatsle is located.

Although what you said is true because Newcastle does not have much experience after a long absence, in terms of strength they are also now not inferior and they could be a dark horse in this group F.
Looking at the current conditions with some considerations about quality and experience they are indeed at the very end of the list but we still can't be sure exactly how they do their first competition after a long absence and I really hope a lot for Newcastle in this Champions League. Even though they won't be able to make a breakthrough to be in the further phase but when they qualify in the group phase for their comeback season in the Champions League I think it is very good for Newcastle.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on September 01, 2023, 12:46:41 PM

I personally think that maybe Napoli can do better this time. They haven't been regularly joining the Champions League above all else. Therefore there was some lack of experience. They still did great last season of course. Because they made it to the quarter finals. However they couldn't deal with Milan obstacle despite a big effort.

But this time I will be expecting an even more competitive and aware team. They should be able to develop better strategies against especially the experienced teams of the tournament. When it comes to their group now I can just say it is quite easy for them. We should be watching a tough fight between Napoli and Real Madrid for advancing as the leader.

I also expect a better performance from Napoli this season. They managed to keep two of their most important players. With Victor Osimhen and Hvicha Kvaratshelia in the team, their offensive options will always be rich. I think they will beat Braga and Union Berlin with a little bit of comfort, but the games against Real Madrid will give us an idea about their position at the end of the tournament. If they beat Real Madrid and finish first in the group, they will raise expectations. Let's see how they will perform in the Champions League this season.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on September 01, 2023, 09:31:53 AM

Eddie Howe's Newcastle are in Group F, definitely the Group Of Death

They will face PSG, Borussia Dortmund and AC Milan. It’ll be really tough but they can definitely do it. Newcastle’s home form will be key. There aren’t many better crowds to play in front of.

So far I see in every post, indeed many of them doubt the ability of Newcastle United because they think that Newcastle United is a dark horse team in Group F.
I think that is quite natural because Newcastle United has been absent from the Champions League for quite a long time, but this season they are back in the Champions League and immediately face a big challenge because they are in Group F.
Where Group F is filled by teams that are quite experienced in the Champions League.

Eddie Howe thinks that Newcastle United will be able to be the best in Group F, especially if they can give a surprise if they can beat the three big teams. This will be a quite crucial step and a tough job for Newcastle United in the group phase.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on September 01, 2023, 12:46:41 PM

I personally think that maybe Napoli can do better this time. They haven't been regularly joining the Champions League above all else. Therefore there was some lack of experience. They still did great last season of course. Because they made it to the quarter finals. However they couldn't deal with Milan obstacle despite a big effort.

But this time I will be expecting an even more competitive and aware team. They should be able to develop better strategies against especially the experienced teams of the tournament. When it comes to their group now I can just say it is quite easy for them. We should be watching a tough fight between Napoli and Real Madrid for advancing as the leader.

Last season was probably one of Napoli's biggest milestones in the champions league and I agree they just need to get used to this competition to get something better. Even now, the Napoli squad is still filled with defensive players and all of them will only have to develop their abilities further. The champions league competition is the toughest and all the teams are competing against each other to win this title. Napoli's match against Real Madrid in the group phase was the most exciting and we can assume that these two teams will advance to the next round.

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on September 01, 2023, 03:39:45 PM

the group where Napoli was placed after the draw is quite within Napoli's reach, I personally think they could finish second in the group without major problems, Real Madrid are the number one candidate to win the group and are favorites to win the Champions League . However, if Napoli maintains last year's pace, they could do even better and reach the semifinals, but it all depends on the post-group draws

Napoli could be first in that group. Real Madrid and Napoli are expected to come out. It wouldn't make much sense to expect surprises from that group. Braga and Union Berlin aren't even mid-range teams. We can call them teams with the quality of the Europa League more. If Napoli plays well like last year, they will be the leader of this group. Of course, the post group draws are very important. If they have the chance, I think they can make it to the semi-finals. After all, they have a very effective weapon like Osimhen.

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Real Madrid will clearly lead this group while Napoli will second the group. This does not mean that Napoli doesn't have the capacity to top the group, but I don't expect it this time around that Real Madrid seems provoked.
We have to learn not to underrate teams, especially the one from Germany. Union Berlin has the capacity to prevent a football team from qualifying, even if themselves will not qualify. Union Berlin is can hold both Real Madrid and Napoli to draw. So, teams in that group should be weary of them.

Well, Union Berlin and Napoli made the group quite tough, I know we barely see the game of the both sides all we focus on is how many goals they score and the stats. Union Berlin had a great season and Napoli, we all know won the Seria A after thirty good years without the trophy.

I'd love to see Real Madrid scouts and President keeping a close eye on Khivicha Kvaratskhelia ( A player I really think deserves a club like Real Madrid for his qualities and high work rate ) He deserves a bigger and better club than Napoli. As for Victor Oshime, His final destination should be Chelsea, I would see that happening next season because, they claim they have Nicholas Jackson but I'm sure he's no top notch as Victor Oshime.

No arguments with Real Madrid topping the group, hit they will have some difficulty scoring goals.

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Quote from: hahay on September 01, 2023, 11:33:51 AM

Yes, it seems very fortunate for Manchester City to be in a relatively easy group, and by being in an easy group like this. Then of course, Manchester City will also not continue to push Bruyne to play in the group stage, because of course Pep Guardiola will recover Bruyne to prepare to play in the knockout phase later. But apart from that, it seems that group E will also be a competitive competition because it seems, the teams in group E have a quality that is not much different. They are Lazio, Feyenoord, Atletico and also Celtic and ya, although perhaps Atletico and Lazio will be the favorites. But I am sure that Feyenoord and Celtic also have the ability and quality to get the points.

Group E, in my opinion, is also a difficult group. Out of the four clubs there, I believe Atletico are the favourites and will comfortably qualify for the knockout phase of the tournament. Lazio is also a good team, but I doubt they can easily defeat Celtic and advance to the knockout stage alongside Atletico. Feyenoord are the smaller team that I believe will not get past the group stage, but Lazio and Celtic will have to compete to advance to the knockout phase of the competition.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on September 01, 2023, 12:46:41 PM

I personally think that maybe Napoli can do better this time. They haven't been regularly joining the Champions League above all else. Therefore there was some lack of experience. They still did great last season of course. Because they made it to the quarter finals. However they couldn't deal with Milan obstacle despite a big effort.

But this time I will be expecting an even more competitive and aware team. They should be able to develop better strategies against especially the experienced teams of the tournament. When it comes to their group now I can just say it is quite easy for them. We should be watching a tough fight between Napoli and Real Madrid for advancing as the leader.

the group where Napoli was placed after the draw is quite within Napoli's reach, I personally think they could finish second in the group without major problems, Real Madrid are the number one candidate to win the group and are favorites to win the Champions League . However, if Napoli maintains last year's pace, they could do even better and reach the semifinals, but it all depends on the post-group draws

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Without doubt, the group F that consists of Paris Saint Germaine, Newcastle, Borussia Dortmund and AC Milan which many refer to the group of death is the most difficult but yet most interesting group of this season's UEFA Champions League competition. Newcastle who for the first time in almost 20 years they last played in the competition happens to find themselves in that will definitely not be happy with the draw but has no option than to take on the challenge.
PSG for a fact are the favourites to win that group but from what I've seen so far in the last 12 months from Newcastle, they stand a good chance of reaching the knockout stage of the competition.

Newcastle are challenged to immediately show that their entry into the UCL is no joke. In my opinion there is a positive thing because if Newcastle is able to compete and eventually qualify, it means that Newcastle's existence will be increasingly taken into account. If you look at the development of this club from season to season, in my opinion it can provide quite tough resistance. PSG is already without Messi and Neymar, then Dormund is also now without Bellingham. That way, the strengths of each club can still be matched by Newcastle if they take advantage of this situation.

In Newcastle's second season under their coach, they will face a tougher challenge to showcase their technical skills and compete against diverse European playing styles, distinct from those in England. I have confidence in Newcastle's ability to qualify from the group, thanks to their strong and deep team, especially considering the addition of several talented players.

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Quote from: naira on September 01, 2023, 06:59:37 AM

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Without doubt, the group F that consists of Paris Saint Germaine, Newcastle, Borussia Dortmund and AC Milan which many refer to the group of death is the most difficult but yet most interesting group of this season's UEFA Champions League competition. Newcastle who for the first time in almost 20 years they last played in the competition happens to find themselves in that will definitely not be happy with the draw but has no option than to take on the challenge.
PSG for a fact are the favourites to win that group but from what I've seen so far in the last 12 months from Newcastle, they stand a good chance of reaching the knockout stage of the competition.

Newcastle are challenged to immediately show that their entry into the UCL is no joke. In my opinion there is a positive thing because if Newcastle is able to compete and eventually qualify, it means that Newcastle's existence will be increasingly taken into account. If you look at the development of this club from season to season, in my opinion it can provide quite tough resistance. PSG is already without Messi and Neymar, then Dormund is also now without Bellingham. That way, the strengths of each club can still be matched by Newcastle if they take advantage of this situation.

In as much as we want the ability of Newcastle United to put to test we did not pray that they should have this tough featuring. I mean, this is so outrageous for a new club in the Champions League. If you observe very well, Newcastle is already having issues in the local League playing in the English Premier League. So the European competition would be more burden on them. I wish they had an easy team to qualify from because their tendency of qualifying from this deadly group is very narrow, and I will not blame them if they do not qualify as they are already falling apart in the English, Premier League.

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At least in the group stage you can trust and let the newcomer prove himself, because Barcelona are not in the most difficult group, you can even experiment a little. Although there is also La Liga for that, so as not to take risks in such a tournament, especially for Barcelona this season it is very important. So far I see that Barcelona can definitely get out of the group, maybe even reach the quarter-finals, and then it all depends on the opponent

Basically, almost all groups look easy to become top of the standings for some of Europe's top teams, except for group F. Barcelona is fortunate to get relatively easier opponents this season, but I don't really dare to guarantee they can qualify easily and lead Group H in the end.

All teams can be surprised that Barcelona still has the possibility of failing to reach the last 16 if all the opposing teams are really able to make it difficult for Barcelona to win the match. I agree Barcelona are favorites in Group H, but that's not a guarantee to see them through easily to the next round.

I agree, especially as it's already happened a few times, if I'm not mistaken, when it was obvious they were likely to get out of the group - they went to the Europa league. Still, they look much better now than they did then, so I think they can get out of the group, their game is quite coherent and well constructed

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What a f*cking easy group for Manchester City with all these teams who City can beat them very easily as they come from much lower quality leagues like Young Boys from Swiss Super League and C.Zvedza from Serbian Premier League,these surely won't put up any difficulty or fight against Manchester City.They also have Leipzig again which they beat and eliminated last year so also this team does not pose any threat for them.Also most other groups are easy for the big teams like for Real and Napoli which will most likely get past group stages very easy.Also for the other teams like Bayern,Manchester,Arsenal and Barcelona which should come out easily of the group stages.Only the group of Newcastle will be very competitive and the most interesting I think.

Yes, it seems very fortunate for Manchester City to be in a relatively easy group, and by being in an easy group like this. Then of course, Manchester City will also not continue to push Bruyne to play in the group stage, because of course Pep Guardiola will recover Bruyne to prepare to play in the knockout phase later. But apart from that, it seems that group E will also be a competitive competition because it seems, the teams in group E have a quality that is not much different. They are Lazio, Feyenoord, Atletico and also Celtic and ya, although perhaps Atletico and Lazio will be the favorites. But I am sure that Feyenoord and Celtic also have the ability and quality to get the points.

Manchester City drew one of the easiest draws to tell the truth. So the group is quite easy compared to other groups. They faced Leipzig last year and their strongest rivals are Leipzig in the group. I think Manchester City will have 6 wins in 6 matches in the group. I do not agree that Lazio is the favourite. Feyenoord is stronger than them in my opinion.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on September 01, 2023, 04:27:43 AM

The Turkish representative Galatasaray have had a really unlucky draw. I mean I think that the best achievement they can get in this group is to finish in 3rd place. Because it is very difficult for them to deal with Bayern Munich and Manchester United. They can only hope for getting a point home but even that isn't easy at all.

Maybe they can do well against Manchester United home because the Manchester team haven't started the season very impressively. If they can't work out their problems on defending this can be an important weakness.

Apart from that Galatasaray should be able to defeat Copenhagen in both matches to guarantee the Europa League ticket at least.

That is more than enough to be fair, there are few other teams like that. UCL is no longer the league where some teams could have a good lucky path that they go to quarter finals or anything. The first big five teams of each big five league will go on, and there are some seconds and thirds in some of those leagues which rounds up the top 8, the rest are not that bad teams which will do fine that finds the last 16, a few here and there teams will round it up.

It's just not possible for a team that faced 3 teams before going to groups could be any good to go out of the group stages anymore, it's just not possible, the level difference is too gigantic. Being fourth is not a bad thing for them, it's the expected result, if they are third though, that is a big achievement, but that should be the only possibilities. If they somehow become second? That would be unexpected one.

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Quote from: hahay on September 01, 2023, 11:33:51 AM

Yes, it seems very fortunate for Manchester City to be in a relatively easy group, and by being in an easy group like this. Then of course, Manchester City will also not continue to push Bruyne to play in the group stage, because of course Pep Guardiola will recover Bruyne to prepare to play in the knockout phase later. But apart from that, it seems that group E will also be a competitive competition because it seems, the teams in group E have a quality that is not much different. They are Lazio, Feyenoord, Atletico and also Celtic and ya, although perhaps Atletico and Lazio will be the favorites. But I am sure that Feyenoord and Celtic also have the ability and quality to get the points.

Manchester City will obviously benefit from this, which will give them plenty of time to rotate tier 2 players. Because in my opinion, Pep Guardiola believes he can still boast an advantage if he has to reduce the composition of his second-tier squad in the group stage. Manchester City's luck in being in the safe group will only make it easier for them to achieve another UCL trophy.

Quote from: emrecemsan on September 01, 2023, 12:46:41 PM

I personally think that maybe Napoli can do better this time. They haven't been regularly joining the Champions League above all else. Therefore there was some lack of experience. They still did great last season of course. Because they made it to the quarter finals. However they couldn't deal with Milan obstacle despite a big effort.

Napoli and Madrid are in the same group, at least for these two clubs it's not too difficult compared to other quite interesting groups like Group F where in the end PSG has to play against strong clubs. Don't forget, Man United was also unlucky to face the same group as Bayern Munich. Then Arsenal and Sevilla, it could be said that Sevilla can play more ambitiously.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on September 01, 2023, 12:46:41 PM

I personally think that maybe Napoli can do better this time. They haven't been regularly joining the Champions League above all else. Therefore there was some lack of experience. They still did great last season of course. Because they made it to the quarter finals. However they couldn't deal with Milan obstacle despite a big effort.

But this time I will be expecting an even more competitive and aware team. They should be able to develop better strategies against especially the experienced teams of the tournament. When it comes to their group now I can just say it is quite easy for them. We should be watching a tough fight between Napoli and Real Madrid for advancing as the leader.

Real Madrid might be their biggest challenge, I'm not ruling out Union Berlin and Braga, it's just that Real Madrid seems to be the only one.
Experience in big competitions like this is very important, here the club is not only required to play well, but mentality and experience are two things that are tied together. If we go back to last season, I can say that they were game ready, but mentally they were still lacking so they lost to clubs from the same league because they were more mental and also more experienced.
They need to show that they can not only play and have a good mentality in Serie A but also here.

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