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July 29, 2023, 05:51:16 PM
Not sure about Barcelona and PSG will be there until the final stage, especially about Barcelona which seems like Barcelona's performance will still not be much different from the results they got in the previous season too. But for Manchester City, of course I personally still believe Pep Guardiola still has a very good ability to make Manchester City go further. Also about Manchester United, although the chance to get the title is very low but at least Manchester United has a good chance to get to the quarter-finals, maybe.
There is no much difference in the squad Barcelona used last season so i am not expecting any changes or extraordinary performance from them in the champions league. If they are able to make it through the group stage I don’t think they will go past the round of 16 because they didn’t really add much to their squad. Football cannot be predicted sometimes but I really think it would be difficult for Barcelona to pull unexpected stunts.

PSG and Manchester United on the other hand can go further in the competition maybe the quarterfinals or semi final but I don’t think they can do better than that next season. PSG has some good players enough to win the champions league but I don’t know why they end up losing everytime even having a player like mbappe. Manchester city are ambitious enough to win it again but it will be very challenging for them to do it over again this coming season.

Sometimes league matches can be forgiving. Because there are good chances for a better team to improve later. But Champions League can be a problem. Because it is really hard for any club to actually improve quickly in the Champions League after they get themselves in some problems earlier on in the competition.

I don’t really understand your point here but sometimes a team might have a bad performance in their domestic league and still perform wonderfully well in the champions league take inter milan last season’s performance as an example, they didn’t perform too well in serie A but suprised the world in the champions league. Some teams may perform well in the league but fail to perform in the champions league just like barcelona did last season.
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July 29, 2023, 04:17:45 PM
Last season, PSG were not strong at all. They could not even take the first place in the group losing it to Benfica! Of the 3 stars only Mbappe was really useful (Neymar at the beginning of the season, but when it came time for the decisive games, he was already blown away). If you look at the “brand”, then they lost to the “great” Bavaria, but in fact we all saw that Bayern was frankly weak last season. In fact, a weak PSG lost to a weak Bavaria. It was the end of their cycle, now we will see what the new team will be capable of.

I think Messi also did ok in the Champions League as he had 8 scorer points consisting of 4 goals and 4 assists and Mbappe had 10 (7+3). But the offense hasn't really been a problem for PSG in the Champions League even when Neymar missed important games. PSG could never be consistent for 90 minutes and even worse than that it was almost guaranteed that they are making one big mistake at some point in the game and whenever that happened, they fell apart despite leading the game still. They need a compact team that knows how to defend a lead during the game and of course a two goal lead even when a mistake happens. Neymar is a player who starts complaining immediately as soon as the team concedes a goal and he never puts work into the defense, yet complains. These emotional collapses cost them the games often times.

In 180 minutes with Bayern, PSG scored zero goals (and we remember that Bayern were unusually weak), useful statistical actions in the group do not cancel the fact that PSG lost the group and fell below Benfica. As for the need to be able to defend the advantage in score, just when you have Neymar and Messi in the team, then you have no chance. Maybe the team can tolerate having one not very active player, but two is already too much (although at the top level even one is too much). An effective defense probably requires more strength than even an attack where you choose the direction and pace yourself, and in defense you try to block all zones and predict the opponent's actions. Therefore, the weaknesses of PSG were quite natural and were not the consequences of emotions or simply "unluck.

Emotions definitely played a role in some of their losses because they gave away leads in totally stupid ways and I remember a two goal lead in the Champions League and when they conceded the first they behaved as if they had just lost the game despite still being in the lead. They have never been stable emotionally either.

But I agree with you with everything you said about offensive players not contributing to anything else other than the offensive game, which you described as not very active, but that is the problem. They can do miracles with the ball in the opponents half, but they are missing when the opponent actually has the ball and yes, a team can handle one such player, but PSG actually had three of them who were not willing to work defensively. Neither Neymar, nor Messi, nor Mbappe were known for working defensively. That is not enough to win the Champions League.
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July 29, 2023, 04:02:16 PM
Not sure about Barcelona and PSG will be there until the final stage, especially about Barcelona which seems like Barcelona's performance will still not be much different from the results they got in the previous season too. But for Manchester City, of course I personally still believe Pep Guardiola still has a very good ability to make Manchester City go further. Also about Manchester United, although the chance to get the title is very low but at least Manchester United has a good chance to get to the quarter-finals, maybe.
Current performance from Barcelona is not impressive in UEFA Champion League after failure in group stage last two season, I don't think with promising performance from Xavi Hernandez teams next season due will get bigger or competitive teams in group stage drawing. Still has possibility for Barcelona in the same group with Bayern Munich, its difficult for Barcelona qualifying in group stage after last season loss in home and away match against Bayern.

Although have been confidence performance as La Liga winner last season, seems not enough thing how diffiucult faced by Barcelona qualifying from group stage. PSG is not in my favorite teams list for winning UEFA Champion League next season, losing Lionel Messi and not clear yet with Mbappe future is strong reason PSG is the weakness teams in for winning UCL tittle.

Compared to teams like Real Madrid and Machester City, Barcelona got fewer investments and we can't expect to see them spending huge amounts of money and buying superstar players for the Champions League, but still, they have Xavi coaching the team and this can be an advantage for them. I think Barcelona can still have a chance to win the title in the next Champions League.


Barcelona has a good team for the upcoming season and a good one. I think they will go far in the champions league but i dont think they will be able to win it next to teams like Real Madrid and Man City. Barcelona cannot buy a lot of players due to their big debt and can only sign players for free.
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July 29, 2023, 03:56:40 PM
Compared to teams like Real Madrid and Machester City, Barcelona got fewer investments and we can't expect to see them spending huge amounts of money and buying superstar players for the Champions League, but still, they have Xavi coaching the team and this can be an advantage for them. I think Barcelona can still have a chance to win the title in the next Champions League.

Of course Barcelona have a chance to win the Champions League title although Xavi cannot expect so much money to be poured into building a better squad. Barcelona have tried to do the best they can in managing finances and balancing them due to bad conditions, but they are still a quality team that can give the best match.

Barcelona has a lot of talented young players combined with some experienced old players. Even though Alba and Busquets have left, I think Xavi still has quality replacements to keep their chances in various competitions. I know the Champions League is tough, but there's nothing wrong with expecting Barcelona to be one of the strong contenders next season.
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July 29, 2023, 03:53:18 PM
Not sure about Barcelona and PSG will be there until the final stage, especially about Barcelona which seems like Barcelona's performance will still not be much different from the results they got in the previous season too. But for Manchester City, of course I personally still believe Pep Guardiola still has a very good ability to make Manchester City go further. Also about Manchester United, although the chance to get the title is very low but at least Manchester United has a good chance to get to the quarter-finals, maybe.
Current performance from Barcelona is not impressive in UEFA Champion League after failure in group stage last two season, I don't think with promising performance from Xavi Hernandez teams next season due will get bigger or competitive teams in group stage drawing. Still has possibility for Barcelona in the same group with Bayern Munich, its difficult for Barcelona qualifying in group stage after last season loss in home and away match against Bayern.

Although have been confidence performance as La Liga winner last season, seems not enough thing how diffiucult faced by Barcelona qualifying from group stage. PSG is not in my favorite teams list for winning UEFA Champion League next season, losing Lionel Messi and not clear yet with Mbappe future is strong reason PSG is the weakness teams in for winning UCL tittle.
Maybe yes it is unlikely that Barcelona will reach to the final UCL, Xavi is still has not been able to bring Barcelona to good play in this big caste in my opinion he still loses his tactics against big clubs in europa, although on the other side the Barcelona squad looks good. Indeed, PSG current situation not good, losing Lionel Messi and not clear yet with Mbappe next season, to be honest I personally also doubt it although this big event is full of surprises.
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July 29, 2023, 03:50:01 PM
Not sure about Barcelona and PSG will be there until the final stage, especially about Barcelona which seems like Barcelona's performance will still not be much different from the results they got in the previous season too. But for Manchester City, of course I personally still believe Pep Guardiola still has a very good ability to make Manchester City go further. Also about Manchester United, although the chance to get the title is very low but at least Manchester United has a good chance to get to the quarter-finals, maybe.
Current performance from Barcelona is not impressive in UEFA Champion League after failure in group stage last two season, I don't think with promising performance from Xavi Hernandez teams next season due will get bigger or competitive teams in group stage drawing. Still has possibility for Barcelona in the same group with Bayern Munich, its difficult for Barcelona qualifying in group stage after last season loss in home and away match against Bayern.

Although have been confidence performance as La Liga winner last season, seems not enough thing how diffiucult faced by Barcelona qualifying from group stage. PSG is not in my favorite teams list for winning UEFA Champion League next season, losing Lionel Messi and not clear yet with Mbappe future is strong reason PSG is the weakness teams in for winning UCL tittle.

Compared to teams like Real Madrid and Machester City, Barcelona got fewer investments and we can't expect to see them spending huge amounts of money and buying superstar players for the Champions League, but still, they have Xavi coaching the team and this can be an advantage for them. I think Barcelona can still have a chance to win the title in the next Champions League.
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July 29, 2023, 03:41:52 PM
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I don't think PSG will ever again be able to win the Champions League after they were unsuccessful in doing so last season. Despite having Messi, Mbappe, and Neymar as their top three essential players, they were unable to advance past the semifinals of the Champions League. It's heartbreaking to think about because everyone believed they would win the Champions League trophy based on their frontline strikers.  I was one of the few who predicted that PSG would win the Champions League, not even anticipating that Manchester City would shock everyone by winning the treble trophy last season. What I have in mind was PSG is going to win UCL from the start of last season but they failed woefully.
Too easy to say, but you've left a lot out of hand here. Barcelona has a golden generation with Pep Guardiola, but they can't always win the Champions League title. Bayern Munich, Juventus, Real Madrid, Liverpool, Manchester City also experienced it. PSG are not the only team that have failed to win the Champions League title when their squad is filled with star players, it is clear that many other teams have also suffered the same fate.

But why is it only PSG that attracts attention and continues to be talked about, it is something that is considered a trend when PSG have spent a lot of money to win titles. Money doesn't guarantee success if management can't manage it well, even if a team has a luxurious squad like PSG.
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July 29, 2023, 02:56:31 PM
Not sure about Barcelona and PSG will be there until the final stage, especially about Barcelona which seems like Barcelona's performance will still not be much different from the results they got in the previous season too. But for Manchester City, of course I personally still believe Pep Guardiola still has a very good ability to make Manchester City go further. Also about Manchester United, although the chance to get the title is very low but at least Manchester United has a good chance to get to the quarter-finals, maybe.
Current performance from Barcelona is not impressive in UEFA Champion League after failure in group stage last two season, I don't think with promising performance from Xavi Hernandez teams next season due will get bigger or competitive teams in group stage drawing. Still has possibility for Barcelona in the same group with Bayern Munich, its difficult for Barcelona qualifying in group stage after last season loss in home and away match against Bayern.

Although have been confidence performance as La Liga winner last season, seems not enough thing how diffiucult faced by Barcelona qualifying from group stage. PSG is not in my favorite teams list for winning UEFA Champion League next season, losing Lionel Messi and not clear yet with Mbappe future is strong reason PSG is the weakness teams in for winning UCL tittle.
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July 29, 2023, 02:43:41 PM
In fact, PSG last season had star players in all positions and not just in the attacking position. But yes, it looks like PSG management might think that if they have a squad full of star players it can make it easier for them to win the Champion League title. But unfortunately, it seems like it is a wrong assumption because after all, even though they have a lot of star players but they also need time to build chemistry between players to get better. Moreover, when PSG has many star players but their coach is not used to leading a star squad, so PSG efforts still fail in the Champions League.
You may be right about PSG, I also see that as one of the reasons why PSG failed in the Champions League. PSG obviously have a good chance because they have a lot of star players, but the relationship between the players is not as expected. Messi is very uncomfortable at PSG, that's because he doesn't get as good support as he did when he was with Barcelona.

After all, PSG is not very good at several positions such as midfielder and also defense. PSG need creative midfielders who never give up and are highly experienced in the Champions League competition. While they have some midfielders like Marco Verratti, Vitinha, Fabián Ruiz, Carlos Soler, Danilo Pereira and Renato Sanches, but none of them have ever won the Champions League title in their career. So of course these midfielders don't have the good mentality to win the Champions League title.
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July 29, 2023, 02:10:19 PM
Pre-season matches are only limited to testing the strengths of each team and a place to show talent for young players, whatever results are obtained in pre-season matches will not affect the team's reputation. They are just having fun before the game officially starts, the coach can also determine how appropriate a player is to be included in the core squad.

It won't be long before the Champions League will roll again, teams that are still in the stage of looking for new players are still moving in the transfer market in order to strengthen the depth of their squad. This season's Champions League will be far more competitive than the previous season, several teams that were absent from last season's Champions League have revived this competition. They also come with a well-prepared squad and of course will present a more fierce competition to the most favored teams to win this championship.
I think reputation is not damaged, but also it could be doubted a bit. Think of it like this, if one great team ends up playing against not so great team and loses, that is going to end up with the great team being doubted until they prove otherwise.

Same goes for champions league elimination phase as well, there are some good teams playing against some bad teams and there should be something very important to note about the fact that they are going to end up facing some issues there, if they do end up failing to win, people will doubt that team and not going to end up getting the recognition they deserve. Doesn't mean they will be bad after that, they could get better but the doubt will be there until they prove otherwise.

Nothing which can actually happen towards the start of the season is sometimes the players are not as agile as they should be. That can create some problems. Because sometimes because of that good teams end up losing against weaker opponents. And this especially happens towards the start of the season. That’s why sometimes players and the clubs have to be extra careful towards the start of the season.

Sometimes league matches can be forgiving. Because there are good chances for a better team to improve later. But Champions League can be a problem. Because it is really hard for any club to actually improve quickly in the Champions League after they get themselves in some problems earlier on in the competition.
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July 29, 2023, 01:47:52 PM
The main objective of the PSG team is to do well in the Champions League. They have been trying this for a long time. But they are not seeing success. Hopefully they will try to revamp the squad this season so that they can get into a good Champions League position.

PSG once had nearly all of the good players they could think of in order to win the Champions League, but they failed and were eliminated at some point. They had Messi, Mbappe, and Neymar in their attack and still couldn't win. I'm not sure how their current squad will perform in the forthcoming Champions League tournament, but I don't think they'll be able to win it without most of their key players they once had before.
They've had Messi, Mbappe, and Neymar. Football is a team sport. Not simply a star-studded assault line can win. I think PSG failed there. It's about team spirit, not just stars. As a football fan, I feel their disappointment from last season. PSG may be down in the Champions League without their key players, but don't count them out yet. Manchester City and Real Madrid will challenge. Manchester United is reviving. Football is unpredictable. PSG could surprise

In fact, PSG last season had star players in all positions and not just in the attacking position. But yes, it looks like PSG management might think that if they have a squad full of star players it can make it easier for them to win the Champion League title. But unfortunately, it seems like it is a wrong assumption because after all, even though they have a lot of star players but they also need time to build chemistry between players to get better. Moreover, when PSG has many star players but their coach is not used to leading a star squad, so PSG efforts still fail in the Champions League.
This problem still has a big question mark when a club like Paris SG, which had the top players last season, sadly failed to qualify for the champions league, even though if you look at the perfection of this club, it is far from optimal because the players Messi, Kylian, and also Neymar are nesting there but still failing.
I think it not about the chemistry but also there seems to be some mismatch between player and coach which lead to poor performance in champions league match.
Now we see that Paris SG has started to lose Messi and Kylian Mbappe is also rumored to be leaving there soon and will this be a bad sign for Paris SG management or will it just look the same as last season.
But after Luis Enrique became coach of Paris SG, it seems that many believe that this coach is very reliable and always create something new, such as buying new player and new formation pattern to try to be success in the champions league.
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July 29, 2023, 01:46:33 PM
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Not sure about Barcelona and PSG will be there until the final stage, especially about Barcelona which seems like Barcelona's performance will still not be much different from the results they got in the previous season too. But for Manchester City, of course I personally still believe Pep Guardiola still has a very good ability to make Manchester City go further. Also about Manchester United, although the chance to get the title is very low but at least Manchester United has a good chance to get to the quarter-finals, maybe.
Aren't we talking about possibilities, so what's wrong with having Barcelona, ​​Real Madrid, PSG and a few other teams as teams that will reach the final? Every Champion League participant has the opportunity to win a ticket to the final even though in fact they will have different opportunities. Barcelona have grown better since being coached by Xavi, so they shouldn't be underestimated even though in the last 2 seasons they couldn't qualify for the quarter-finals or higher.

Manchester City also have a possibility, but I believe they are a good team to be called the favorites next season. There are still several other teams worth considering, like Bayern Munich, Napoli, Inter and others.
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July 29, 2023, 01:29:13 PM
Can't wait to see how Manchester United is going to perform with Ten Hag in the Champions League because I know this team can be even stronger when Ten Hag chose the players for the next season and some players like Rasmus Hojlund and Onana join this team and help them in the next season. Although they have made significant progress, it is noteworthy that there is still ample opportunity for improvement for them in comparison to teams like Manchester City and Real Madrid.


1/4 final at best for Man Utd I think, they haven’t done anything impressive so far in the summer transfer market. That can change quickly of course but I don’t see them as a serious option to win it.

Man City will be favourites but the usual suspects will be there until the latter stages, PSG, Barca, Real etc.
Napoli didn’t get stripped of all their playing assets as I expected so they could be a dark horse.

Yep, we agree that so far United haven't done anything impressive in this summer's transfer window. As for newcomers, Ten Hag does it very carefully because they have limited funds to buy players. ideally, Ten Hag only brings in players who fit the budget and meet the criteria the team needs. it could be, that the purchase of some new arrivals is a choice adapted to their budget conditions. It's a different matter if United are acquired by Qatar, they will have a large budget which can certainly bring in players with great potential. but that does not mean, that bringing in Mason Mount and Onana is not an ideal choice. in fact, both players meet the criteria befitting the style and system characteristics that Ten Hag employs.

Now, United have got a striker who is relied on as a goal getter. Rasmus Hojlund, has been reported to be part of Manchester United. as reported by Romano, an agreement was reached at this time between the two clubs. at least even though United have limitations with purchases in the transfer market this summer, what is certain is that we cannot underestimate Erik Ten Hag's squad. maybe, they can give us a surprise. although we agree, that the favorite team so far still belongs to City. there are even several other competitors, which will certainly provide very interesting competition.
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July 29, 2023, 12:46:11 PM
Can't wait to see how Manchester United is going to perform with Ten Hag in the Champions League because I know this team can be even stronger when Ten Hag chose the players for the next season and some players like Rasmus Hojlund and Onana join this team and help them in the next season. Although they have made significant progress, it is noteworthy that there is still ample opportunity for improvement for them in comparison to teams like Manchester City and Real Madrid.
1/4 final at best for Man Utd I think, they haven’t done anything impressive so far in the summer transfer market. That can change quickly of course but I don’t see them as a serious option to win it.

Man City will be favourites but the usual suspects will be there until the latter stages, PSG, Barca, Real etc.
Napoli didn’t get stripped of all their playing assets as I expected so they could be a dark horse.
And even that's a bit of a stretch depending on the draw. If they do end up playing in an easy group then I believe that we are going to see them go out of the group stage, if however they face tough teams which they might then it is going to be tough for them to get out, remember they are not the first seed. All in all even after going out of the group stages, they will face best of other teams probably, because they will be second at best I feel like, and that should definitely have a problem.

So if they go to quarter finals, that would be absolute best of what they could possibly do and I am guessing that there would be a lot more challenges they will face. I say they will barely get by during group stages and lose after that.
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July 29, 2023, 12:38:11 PM
The main objective of the PSG team is to do well in the Champions League. They have been trying this for a long time. But they are not seeing success. Hopefully they will try to revamp the squad this season so that they can get into a good Champions League position.

PSG once had nearly all of the good players they could think of in order to win the Champions League, but they failed and were eliminated at some point. They had Messi, Mbappe, and Neymar in their attack and still couldn't win. I'm not sure how their current squad will perform in the forthcoming Champions League tournament, but I don't think they'll be able to win it without most of their key players they once had before.
They've had Messi, Mbappe, and Neymar. Football is a team sport. Not simply a star-studded assault line can win. I think PSG failed there. It's about team spirit, not just stars. As a football fan, I feel their disappointment from last season. PSG may be down in the Champions League without their key players, but don't count them out yet. Manchester City and Real Madrid will challenge. Manchester United is reviving. Football is unpredictable. PSG could surprise

In fact, PSG last season had star players in all positions and not just in the attacking position. But yes, it looks like PSG management might think that if they have a squad full of star players it can make it easier for them to win the Champion League title. But unfortunately, it seems like it is a wrong assumption because after all, even though they have a lot of star players but they also need time to build chemistry between players to get better. Moreover, when PSG has many star players but their coach is not used to leading a star squad, so PSG efforts still fail in the Champions League.
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July 29, 2023, 12:15:46 PM
The main objective of the PSG team is to do well in the Champions League. They have been trying this for a long time. But they are not seeing success. Hopefully they will try to revamp the squad this season so that they can get into a good Champions League position.

PSG once had nearly all of the good players they could think of in order to win the Champions League, but they failed and were eliminated at some point. They had Messi, Mbappe, and Neymar in their attack and still couldn't win. I'm not sure how their current squad will perform in the forthcoming Champions League tournament, but I don't think they'll be able to win it without most of their key players they once had before.
They've had Messi, Mbappe, and Neymar. Football is a team sport. Not simply a star-studded assault line can win. I think PSG failed there. It's about team spirit, not just stars. As a football fan, I feel their disappointment from last season. PSG may be down in the Champions League without their key players, but don't count them out yet. Manchester City and Real Madrid will challenge. Manchester United is reviving. Football is unpredictable. PSG could surprise
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July 29, 2023, 11:46:57 AM
Last season, PSG were not strong at all. They could not even take the first place in the group losing it to Benfica! Of the 3 stars only Mbappe was really useful (Neymar at the beginning of the season, but when it came time for the decisive games, he was already blown away). If you look at the “brand”, then they lost to the “great” Bavaria, but in fact we all saw that Bayern was frankly weak last season. In fact, a weak PSG lost to a weak Bavaria. It was the end of their cycle, now we will see what the new team will be capable of.

I think Messi also did ok in the Champions League as he had 8 scorer points consisting of 4 goals and 4 assists and Mbappe had 10 (7+3). But the offense hasn't really been a problem for PSG in the Champions League even when Neymar missed important games. PSG could never be consistent for 90 minutes and even worse than that it was almost guaranteed that they are making one big mistake at some point in the game and whenever that happened, they fell apart despite leading the game still. They need a compact team that knows how to defend a lead during the game and of course a two goal lead even when a mistake happens. Neymar is a player who starts complaining immediately as soon as the team concedes a goal and he never puts work into the defense, yet complains. These emotional collapses cost them the games often times.

In 180 minutes with Bayern, PSG scored zero goals (and we remember that Bayern were unusually weak), useful statistical actions in the group do not cancel the fact that PSG lost the group and fell below Benfica. As for the need to be able to defend the advantage in score, just when you have Neymar and Messi in the team, then you have no chance. Maybe the team can tolerate having one not very active player, but two is already too much (although at the top level even one is too much). An effective defense probably requires more strength than even an attack where you choose the direction and pace yourself, and in defense you try to block all zones and predict the opponent's actions. Therefore, the weaknesses of PSG were quite natural and were not the consequences of emotions or simply "unluck.
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July 29, 2023, 11:29:38 AM
The main objective of the PSG team is to do well in the Champions League. They have been trying this for a long time. But they are not seeing success. Hopefully they will try to revamp the squad this season so that they can get into a good Champions League position.
I don't think PSG will ever again be able to win the Champions League after they were unsuccessful in doing so last season. Despite having Messi, Mbappe, and Neymar as their top three essential players, they were unable to advance past the semifinals of the Champions League. It's heartbreaking to think about because everyone believed they would win the Champions League trophy based on their frontline strikers.  I was one of the few who predicted that PSG would win the Champions League, not even anticipating that Manchester City would shock everyone by winning the treble trophy last season. What I have in mind was PSG is going to win UCL from the start of last season but they failed woefully.
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July 29, 2023, 09:50:39 AM
Can't wait to see how Manchester United is going to perform with Ten Hag in the Champions League because I know this team can be even stronger when Ten Hag chose the players for the next season and some players like Rasmus Hojlund and Onana join this team and help them in the next season. Although they have made significant progress, it is noteworthy that there is still ample opportunity for improvement for them in comparison to teams like Manchester City and Real Madrid.


1/4 final at best for Man Utd I think, they haven’t done anything impressive so far in the summer transfer market. That can change quickly of course but I don’t see them as a serious option to win it.

Man City will be favourites but the usual suspects will be there until the latter stages, PSG, Barca, Real etc.
Napoli didn’t get stripped of all their playing assets as I expected so they could be a dark horse.

Not sure about Barcelona and PSG will be there until the final stage, especially about Barcelona which seems like Barcelona's performance will still not be much different from the results they got in the previous season too. But for Manchester City, of course I personally still believe Pep Guardiola still has a very good ability to make Manchester City go further. Also about Manchester United, although the chance to get the title is very low but at least Manchester United has a good chance to get to the quarter-finals, maybe.

If I had to make a guess whether Barcelona or PSG will do better in the next Champions League season, I would definitely choose Barcelona. It is pretty much known what their team is looking like and they haven't really had any players leaving who were key to their game whereas for PSG the situation is totally different. When Mbappe will also leave I can't even give a guess how they will perform in Ligue 1 without Messi and Mbappe who together contributed to over 60 goals last season I think. The same was in the Champions League. They have some hard times ahead of them to first figure out how the whole team works without these two players.
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July 29, 2023, 09:26:28 AM
Can't wait to see how Manchester United is going to perform with Ten Hag in the Champions League because I know this team can be even stronger when Ten Hag chose the players for the next season and some players like Rasmus Hojlund and Onana join this team and help them in the next season. Although they have made significant progress, it is noteworthy that there is still ample opportunity for improvement for them in comparison to teams like Manchester City and Real Madrid.


1/4 final at best for Man Utd I think, they haven’t done anything impressive so far in the summer transfer market. That can change quickly of course but I don’t see them as a serious option to win it.

Man City will be favourites but the usual suspects will be there until the latter stages, PSG, Barca, Real etc.
Napoli didn’t get stripped of all their playing assets as I expected so they could be a dark horse.

Not sure about Barcelona and PSG will be there until the final stage, especially about Barcelona which seems like Barcelona's performance will still not be much different from the results they got in the previous season too. But for Manchester City, of course I personally still believe Pep Guardiola still has a very good ability to make Manchester City go further. Also about Manchester United, although the chance to get the title is very low but at least Manchester United has a good chance to get to the quarter-finals, maybe.
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