Topic: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season - page 307. (Read 141787 times)

Actually with the look of things Arsenal may likely be kicked out by Bayern Munich on the champions League quarters finals because Bayern Munich are always more favourable than Arsenal on champions league that's why they have more good history on champions league than Arsenal, although is been a while Bayern Munich meet Arsenal but I think Bayern Munich has more opportunity over Arsenal on that match and also considering the fact that champions league is not like premier League that are more easy for Arsenal to perform really good but in champions league the matches are mostly difficult because all the clubs are very strong, although I'm not disputing the fact that Arsenal is not in there good form but the truth is that Bayern Munich is a very consistent team when it comes to the champions League matches and also if you you check there last meeting with Liverpool you will see how good Bayern Munich is and beating Liverpool at the end, so if bayern Munich could perform that good it may likely not going to take much time for them to win Arsenal. So I would just say that Arsenal should focus more on there premier League matches so that there attention will not be divided.

Regardless all of the previous meeting records between Arsenal and Bayern Munich for the first leg match it will be held at Arsenal home ground and based on the odds i can see Arsenal is the favourite with odds @2.05 and Bayern Munich as underdog status with odds @3.55 and i think why the bookmakers putting Arsenal is the favourite is because during this season since group stages Arsenal has good records when they playing at home and their records is 4 wins and scores 11 goals and still cleansheet and from these records too we can see Arsenal is very strong during playing at Emirates Stadium and this is big challenge for Bayern Munich whether they can able to beat Arsenal in the first leg or Arsenal who possibly can beat them

Just like i said before Arsenal have to hard struggling for quarterfinal stages because they have to fight against Bayern Munich which this team always being an the favourite in this competition for each season and this also the first tested for Arsenal playing against strong opponent because if they can able to beat Bayern Munich then Arsenal is deserved to called as champion candidate but Arsenal have to beware of Bayern Munich because possibly they will go all in for this match because the chances to gets the trophy for Bayern Munich only through an this competition

I totally agree with your sentiment here that their chances of winning that game is not that high, due to the fact that the performance of Bayern Munich have improved quite a lot in their past outing of recent, and another thing I feels like they aren't putting into consideration when giving this odd is their head to head record, because Bayern Munich have always have the upper hand between them, and in the champions league, experience is one vital thing that is needed to be successful, and this arsenal team lack that, though nothing is impossible, but I see Bayern Munich dominating them and even progressing to the next round of the competition.

If Bayern and Real Madrid qualify for the semi-finals, it means that all teams from the Premier League will only be knocked out in the quarter-finals. I personally see that Arsenal's performance can actually be said to be above Bayern's at the moment. But I want to see Bayern go further. Because I want to see Harry Kane have good achievements at his new club. Because he hasn't had any big achievements while at Spurs for quite a long time. So this is an opportunity for Harry Kane to get the best award in his career with Bayern in the UCL.

The Man City vs Real Madrid match may be difficult to predict. But it seems that there are quite a lot of people who see Man City's potential as a favorite. Whoever wins I don't think will be any surprise. But if Man City loses then Real Madrid will definitely be very feared in the semi-finals and all clubs will definitely hope not to meet Real Madrid in the semi-finals.

Which of the Bayern Munich are you talking about? The same ones that beat minor Lazio, they didn't even win Lazio not until they had to aggressively make a come back in the second league, if they are that good, I'm not sure Bayern Leverkusen would give them 10 points back because if it was that easy for Leverkusen to shake Bundesliga that way and Bayern is that good as you said, they should probably be above by 15 points in their domestic league but the are not, sitting in the second place.


I know right, Arsenal is not used to be here so we are not programmed to think they are capable of pulling surprises to their fans but what if Arsenal becomes like the rest of the teams that are good. You can't see a team at the top of the Premier League and consider their performance as average, they are more than average team which is why I have a vote of confidence in them, at least to send Bayern Munich back to Bundesliga where they belong.

I just don't like how faith brought them to the same side with Real Madrid because I'm anticipating for Manchester United to go home and Madrid will proceed to the semi final and then face the next opponents but I don't want to see them face Real Madrid, that's going to be a suicide to them. If perhaps a reshuffle is allow after the Quarter final, that will be my final wish in this tournament so they can demonstrate that they are good but I know Madrid will win them in the final match anyways.

The heavyweight of matches is the final before final in the UCL. This match is between the 2 best teams in the Ucl in the past 2 years and these 2 teams are the most recent winners of the competition.Funny enough, anyone that eliminates the other will probably go ahead to win the trophy as currently I’m not seeing any of the other 6 teams still in the competition being able to stop any of these 2 teams. They’re quite similar in terms if player’s strength and also coaching abilities.The 2 coaches are knows for their wide level of being tactical and that’s a plus for the teams in match. Also i feel the main focus for the match will be the 2 old Dortmund friends Jude and Erling.

 These 2 players are going to be the point men for their teams in this encounter as the success lf their team mostly rely more on their shoulders and how they chose to perform in the match. That not withstanding, both clubs still have players who can decide to take the shine when you least don’t expect. Man City will want to real win the UCL again back to back and they are looking forward to defeating City again and I think they’ll be coming to frustrate Madrid to a draw at the Santiago. I think Ancelotti should be able to get the best tactics to help this Madrid side.

 I have high hopes on Madrid being able to go through as in my books they’re currently better than the team Man City faced last season. If Madrid goes through I don’t think Bayern will be able to stop them and as such whosoever they meet in the final.Madrid are better placed when compared to City, Arsenal and Bayern to be able to win the title and I think that’s what’s going to play down at the end of the day. It will probably be 15 UCL for Madrid at the end of the season.

I have had a look and I couldn't believe that the bookmakers seem to have big faith in Arsenal and valued them as the real favorite. To give you an idea, they put Arsenal at 1.99, so let's say at 2.0, and they put Bayern Munich at 3.59.

I agree that the odds for Bayern Munich winning this game should be relatively high as it is a game away from home and it is against the team that is leading the Premier League. But given how the game developed recently for Bayern, do you think that Arsenal winning the game at 1.99 is correctly marked by the bookmakers? Even if it is marginal, it is a bit below 2.0 and I did expect something with a 2. coming first.

I don't think that Arsenal's chances of winning that game are that high. At least I wouldn't bet on it at those odds. I think it is always a good indicator to think about potential odds that someone would be willing to put money on an outcome and for me this would be more between 2.5 and 3.0, but it would definitely not be worth it when you get just under 2.0.

The time Arsenal has to face Bayern Munich is very limited, because before facing Bayern Munich in the UCL there are 3 tough matches and it will drain the players energy. So I'm quite worried if Arteta has difficulty making many rotations. At the end of the month against Man City, you definitely need a solid composition of players and of course the main squad must be deployed. The next 2 matches are no less important because they are an opportunity to get 3 points and Arteta cannot underestimate his opponent.

So based on a fairly busy schedule, I wouldn't expect much if even a draw against Bayern Munich would be good enough. However the issue of dark history is also a shadow for Arsenal players, as if Bayern Munich will use it to break the spirit of their opponents.

I won't be surprised if Arsenal say goodbye to the tournament in this phase. It is still going to be a successful run for them anyway. The opponent is Bayern Munich now and their job is quite difficult. If Arsenal play the same as the Porto matchup then there is a big problem for them. Bayern Munich might seem like they aren't the same as the previous season but they wouldn't be forgiving against vulnerable opponents anyway.

Honestly I don't expect a huge score between these teams this time. Arsenal have made big progress thanks to Arteta. I expect to see them fighting back decently.    But when it comes to my favourite it is still Bayern Munich though.

The Real Madrid coach is not a fool when it comes to placing players and also when it comes to choosing players to replace players who have left the Real Madrid team. Currently, everyone still admits that Manchester City is a team that is quite strong in the Champions League and also in the Premier League itself, but everyone probably still hasn't forgotten that Real Madrid is a very successful team in the Champions League so that at the moment it is still quite dangerous for other teams in terms of title contention.

It's really hard to believe. I tell you that if Arsenal was often bottled trophies, I doubt they will be able to do so this season. It's hard to believe Arsenal won't make the same mistakes as previous seasons. Arsenal may still struggle in the upcoming games against bayern munich soon. I don't trust this club. Arsenal is not even able building my confidence to trust it. 
I've noticed that many people were saying the same thing as you in the previous seasons. They hoped for something different to happen to Arsenal, but nothing happened till almost two decades. Arsenal continues to bottle it. This makes me very skeptical about Arsenal's chances of winning the competition soon especially UCL coz this is the hardest competition where best of the best team is competing to get the most prestigious trophy. I'm expecting the same outcome as last season, but no more. Arsenal failed in the Europa League last season with almost the same squad. How is it possible to win the UCL, where so many great clubs compete to be the best?



This has very small chances. Bayern has good WR against Arsenal, and this is my point to call Bayern more favorable to win the game compared to Arsenal right now. I remind you that Bayern humiliated Arsenal the last time, and that momentum will happen again soon.
I have no reason to pick Arsenal in this match. Bayern is likely to be able to kick Arsenal out of UCL soon. I'm sure the fans will be once again blaming Arteta once it happens.
Arsenal is able to pass Bayern and go to the semi-final.

Although Manchester City, Real Madrid are opponents of each other, we definitely consider these two teams as strong rivals in the Champions League. Along with Manchester City and Real Madrid, Bayern Munich are quite strong in the Champions League tournament this season and we can list Arsenal as the favorites for the Champions League competition. Arsenal have been consistent since the start of the season but they need to be a bit more consistent as the upcoming matches are definitely tough and if Real Madrid can't perform in line with Manchester City and Bayern Munich in the upcoming matches then Bayern Munich won't do well. If Manchester City and Real Madrid qualify for the semi-finals, I would like to see Arsenal and Bayern Munich qualify for the semi-finals.  Because if all the strong teams lose in the quarter final then the final match will not be good at all.

I agree about that but maybe Arsenal this season is quite different. We know that it will not be easy for Arsenal to reach the quarterfinals and they have to work hard to get rid of Porto first. After being confirmed for qualifying for the quarterfinals, Arsenal once again had to meet again with a past they didn't want to meet and that was Bayern Munich. Arsenal must be quite annoyed at why it has to be Bayern Munich but that's how the draw works and they have to accept the result.

On the other hand, I think it is quite difficult if you have to put Arsenal into the final round and the remaining strong teams have very little chance. But it doesn't rule out the possibility that they could reach the semifinals but of course they have to beat Bayern Munich first and that will be a challenge for all the players. The depth of Arsenal's squad is actually capable enough to match Bayern Munich, but the problem beyond that is history and mentality so Bayern Munich will still be the favorite.

But Real Madrid has added Bellingham to the team who knows if he can make a difference knowing that Bellingham and Erling Haaland were very influential when they were at Dortmund and they will meet in the UCL which will definitely be quite a fierce battle for both of them. Surprises can still happen because even though Benzema is not in the team, Real Madrid still performs well in La Liga, whereas last season when Benzema was still there, Real Madrid did not win the league title or the UCL.

Well, Manchester City might not be as strong of a squad as last season, but they are still very strong. I think I should clarify that this was just my personal opinion. On paper, both of the teams have the capability of beating each other.

I would like to point out one thing that you said,
I think if we keep thinking that just because Real Madrid has been able to perform really well in the Champions League, they are going to do it again, it is going to be wrong. We have to think about how the team is performing right now. And right now both Real Madrid and Manchester City are performing really well. Even though I said that Manchester City is the stronger one, that is simply my opinion. I think the team which plays better on the given day is going to be the winner. And any prediction can be wrong.

In fact, for matches like this, I tend not to make any bets because sometimes the odds that are owned can actually be tricky because with matches that are sometimes difficult for us to guess, it makes the assessment in betting less objective.
I personally prefer to skip matches like this and prefer to switch to matches that are still possible to do and get benefits rather than making bets in matches that cannot be too guessed like this.

Although this does offer quite attractive odds in the end, it can still make us lose what is at stake so I sometimes don't want to be in such a situation and prefer a condition that is certain.
The odds of this match are still quite interesting actually but then again it could be a trap because indeed all possibilities in a big match like this are still very possible to happen.

It's hard to say a team that won Champions League and two other titles last season, still are in good positions to win Premier League this season, are weak in Champions League quarter final round now.

Facing Real Madrid in Champions League is not a strange and new experience with Manchester City. They actually played against Real Madrid many times, and in the past, they lost before winning last season to go straightly to the title.

This season, they will meet each other on their ways to the final match again. I see both teams are strong and it's hard to pick what team are stronger. Small details in their two quarter final matches can make difference on what team will be the winner eventually.

I know a lot of people think Manchester City are the favorites instead of Real Madrid. Actually, I think so too, but at this level, the result is open to all kinds of outcomes. Manchester City won this draw last year. But the year before that, Real Madrid won. In both draws Manchester City were the favorites but we saw different results. This match could also have an unexpected result.

Yes, it seems like this is the match that fans and bettors have been waiting for and if you choose City to bet on in the match, it is because you are of the opinion that City will win this match because in your opinion City is a team that has strong defensive strength. sturdy. So strong that several times in the match City only conceded a few goals, as said yes, what is clear is that this will have a big impact on the match, maybe many will choose City over Madrid.

do you remember that Real Madrid could also score more in the first leg and maintain the aggregate score in the second leg like several seasons ago?
well, from the history of the meeting it can be taken into consideration to see the team's chances of qualifying for the next round and I don't doubt the performance of Guardiola team, but I also believe that Ancelotti is one of the smart coaches who can beat his strongest opponent.
you said that Ancelotti is a very experienced coach and that is the fact, even though the Madrid players do not all have experience in the UCL, with his experience the coach can bring Real Madrid through to the semi finals and believe me, Ancelotti also knows the weaknesses of Guardiola strategy and can exploit the weaknesses to beat Man City.
IMO, the chances of these two teams are 50:50.