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It will be for me very pleasing to see that Dortmund pulls up the surprise most persons are thinking they aren't capable of because it's going to give me that joy and fulfilment that my believe that anything can happen in football is actually a reality a d not that alone but the breaking of the norm that it must be Madrid been the top team that will most likely get to win the trophy will be at that point be broken.
This is the UEFA Champions League finale we're talking about here and not some random friendly match. We know the UEFA Champions League final belongs to Real Madrid because they've always fought their way through and winning the title not withstanding the pressuring opponent they faced. What's actually surprising? Borrusia Dortmund are no even up the standards of Real Madrid this season but they still managed to fixed themselves in the UCL finals.

The UCL final match was full of prestige, emotion and high tension because it brought together the two best teams who were able to eliminate their opponents since the group stage. The eyes of all football fans will be focused on the final that Real Madrid and Dortmund will play, the players will try to show their best performance to bring their team to become champions.
Real Madrid is certainly the favorite to become champion, but Dortmund still has the same chance. I hope that the referee who leads this match can show high sportsmanship without favoring one of the teams, the experience that occurred in the semifinals when the referee's controversial decision which was detrimental to Bayern Munich will not happen again in the final round.
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This is the UEFA Champions League finale we're talking about here and not some random friendly match. We know the UEFA Champions League final belongs to Real Madrid because they've always fought their way through and winning the title not withstanding the pressuring opponent they faced. What's actually surprising? Borrusia Dortmund are no even up the standards of Real Madrid this season but they still managed to fixed themselves in the UCL finals.
Before the match starts and finishes, no one should immediately say that this season's Champions League title belongs to Real Madrid even though Real Madrid's potential to win this title this season is very large. Because Real Madrid will usually be much more dangerous for their opponents when Real Madrid's opponents face them in the final match, Borrusia Dortmund must be aware of this before the final match starts. Because currently not many people think that Borrussia Dortmund can win the Champions League title this season.
Real Madrid is one of the biggest teams that has the most experience in the UCL and it's not surprising that most people will speculate that Madrid will hold the title this season because everyone knows how the mentality of the Madrid players is and on the one hand Ancelotti plays an important role, always providing encouragement and increasing the players confidence to continue to look for ways with the right tactics to score bigger scores to be able to beat their opponents.
as we have seen how Madrid got rid of Bayern Munich in that match when in the first half Madrid tried to attack from the middle and always failed.
after that Vinic and Rodrygo tried to find a gap using attacking tactics from the side and almost scored but after that in the second half Joselu entered the field trying to use 2 attacks from the side and the middle which was a perfect combination and Joselu produced 2 very perfect scores.

well, this is Madrid perfection which can always find the opponent's weaknesses and this is always a threat to any big team even though I know that Dortmund has a strong defense and wants the match to end in a draw but believe me this match will not end in a draw but will end with Real Madrid winning.
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It will be for me very pleasing to see that Dortmund pulls up the surprise most persons are thinking they aren't capable of because it's going to give me that joy and fulfilment that my believe that anything can happen in football is actually a reality a d not that alone but the breaking of the norm that it must be Madrid been the top team that will most likely get to win the trophy will be at that point be broken.
This is the UEFA Champions League finale we're talking about here and not some random friendly match. We know the UEFA Champions League final belongs to Real Madrid because they've always fought their way through and winning the title not withstanding the pressuring opponent they faced. What's actually surprising? Borrusia Dortmund are no even up the standards of Real Madrid this season but they still managed to fixed themselves in the UCL finals.


If we rely on the statistics of both clubs, I agree that Real Madrid is currently leading the match as it was winning UCL so many times. It is clear that the team has been very consistent in winning games since the group stage and people are not even feeling doubt how competence real madrid in the UCL. Real Madrid outperforms Dortmund in terms of players and coaches.

This is a golden opportunity for Dortmund after waiting so long to play in the UCL final. You are correct that Real Madrid is the most popular club among bettors right now to win the game due to the galacticos squad. Even I am picking Real Madrid to win the game too but dortmund has a miracle to rely with.

Dortmund can only rely on its luck and this is the fact. I am not willing to underestimate Dortmund at this time, but I am saying this based on the fact that Dortmund is not even favored to win the second leg.

There are numerous reasons why Dortmund may be losing to Real Madrid. One of these reasons is that Bellingham is very familiar with Dortmund's strategy. He has become a real Madrid player.

He will also inform Ancellotti of Dortmund's current weakness spot. It is unsurprising that more than 85% of bettors believe Madrid will win the competition.
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Looking back at how Real Madrid has played against RB Leipzig, it was much closer than I thought it would be. This issue of underestimating the opponent is not a problem that Madrid has, but Dortmund is still different because Madrid doesn't yet know how Dortmund will get into the game from the beginning. I think Dortmund might try to push pretty hard early on.
After going through many matches, Dortmund already shown their strength and weakness so at the final match, they are no longer an underdog with many unknown things about their coach, players and tactics. The information collected through the Dortmund adventure so far will be very helpful for Real Madrid and their preparation for the final match.

I believe at an important final match like Champions League, Real Madrid will not underestimate their opponent because with their experience, they know that mistakes in a final match will be very costly and hardly to cover and come back.

Dortmund will need to play very calmly and focus on their defense, patiently wait for chances to knock Real Madrid down. With any consideration between two teams, Dortmund is always weaker and they will need very proper approach for the final.

That's what I think could go differently in this game. Real Madrid is the team that usually waits and then strikes hard when the chance is there. They are very strategic about their game, but Dortmund sometimes benefits from short to medium phases of high pressure and then score. They are more susceptible to mistakes though and it will be about taking Vinicius Junior out of the game. I am confident that this could go well for them as they have done it with Mbappe against PSG in quite a convincing manner. He did have two shots on target I think in both games combined and Dortmund got lucky when he hit the post.
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This is the UEFA Champions League finale we're talking about here and not some random friendly match. We know the UEFA Champions League final belongs to Real Madrid because they've always fought their way through and winning the title not withstanding the pressuring opponent they faced. What's actually surprising? Borrusia Dortmund are no even up the standards of Real Madrid this season but they still managed to fixed themselves in the UCL finals.
Before the match starts and finishes, no one should immediately say that this season's Champions League title belongs to Real Madrid even though Real Madrid's potential to win this title this season is very large. Because Real Madrid will usually be much more dangerous for their opponents when Real Madrid's opponents face them in the final match, Borrusia Dortmund must be aware of this before the final match starts. Because currently not many people think that Borrussia Dortmund can win the Champions League title this season.
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Recently Niklas Sule appearance became a hot topic of conversation during a training session with Dortmund ahead of preparations against Real Madrid in the upcoming UCL final. I'm not sure whether he will start in this important match, not that I doubt it but as we know Real Madrid can really benefit. According to SPORTS BRIEF, Sule weight and eating habits are irregular, he often eats 6 pizzas and 8 kebabs. I don't really understand the fitness of football players, but as a lay person seeing Niklas Sule overweight could be a problem for him on the field, especially against Real Madrid which must be taken seriously. Like last time against Mainz Dortmund suffered a 3-0 defeat. I don't mean anything by it, but it's just strange to see because usually football athletes are always on a diet, maintaining their body shape so that they maintain a sixpack.


It would be actually be of the interest of borussia dortmund to just let Niklas sule be, let him not be added to the match day team list, because with the kind of pace the likes of vinicious and Rodrigo possess, they will definitely find joy anytime they are up against him, if he would be playing on that day, and so it will be best if they left him out of the team list, besides, why would a footballer be weighty like this? It's so sad and regrettable that a sports man will be in such a terrible state physically, because he is not being penalized by the club.

So the best decision that should be taken is leaving him behind, because I really don't think he can be helpful to the team, when he is like this physically.
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Recently Niklas Sule appearance became a hot topic of conversation during a training session with Dortmund ahead of preparations against Real Madrid in the upcoming UCL final.

With this overweight body, Sule will fail to constrain very quick players from Real Madrid like Vinicius and Rodrygo. He will bring nightmare to Dortmund if he starts in Dortmund debut squad for the final. With this body, the only position that can suit for Sule is goalkeeper position but this body is always a big minus for his response against Real Madrid attacks.

I didn't not notice it but did Sule played previous important matches for Dortmund in Champions League like from quarter finals against Atletico Madrid and PSG?
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Recently Niklas Sule appearance became a hot topic of conversation during a training session with Dortmund ahead of preparations against Real Madrid in the upcoming UCL final. I'm not sure whether he will start in this important match, not that I doubt it but as we know Real Madrid can really benefit. According to SPORTS BRIEF, Sule weight and eating habits are irregular, he often eats 6 pizzas and 8 kebabs. I don't really understand the fitness of football players, but as a lay person seeing Niklas Sule overweight could be a problem for him on the field, especially against Real Madrid which must be taken seriously. Like last time against Mainz Dortmund suffered a 3-0 defeat. I don't mean anything by it, but it's just strange to see because usually football athletes are always on a diet, maintaining their body shape so that they maintain a sixpack.
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No team reaches.the champions league finals as feel reluctant because this is literally an international trophy that every European teams wish to win someday so for Borussia Dortmund to have the opportunity to reach the finals after about 11 years when they last reach the finals against Bayern Munich and they lost the final so they will possibly try to make a difference in this final even if they don't win the trophy but they surely gonna try their possible best. I don't see Borussia Dortmund being pessimistic in this finals because they have won the trophy before in the club's record so it won't be a surprise if they win Real Madrid on the final day.
Exactly! I am also seeing a potential win from Dortmund because they are not a small team as other people are seeing. Real Madrid is like a king in the Champions League because of their past record and they are the team with highest number of the Champions League trophies and they are very good in playing finals; but I don’t think Dortmund is scared of this final because they also have experience in the Champions league and can also make it to win because if we look at the Madrid team, we will see that they are not that good as they used to be just that they have less experience than Madrid.
Anything is possible, Dortmund can win the Champions League if they are not afraid of playing Madrid, but if they defend it will be over for them because Madrid have good wingers that can brake any defense.

Borussia Dortmund has been a major force in the German bundesliga just same as Bayern Munich but for some seasons now they haven't been so active like they were in 2013 when they almost won the Champions league only for Argen Robben's 89th minutes goal to end Borussia Dortmund chances of winning the Champions league for the second time in second appearance at the finals however regardless of the fact that Borussia Dortmund has not been too forward in the Bundesliga due to Bayern Munich dominance but Dortmund is a nice club that has succeeded in raising young talents.

Real Madrid may have the likes of Jude Bellingham, Rodrigo and Vinicius Jnr but you see Dortmund's Mats Hummels and Marco Reus are two important players that have the capacity to humble any club, at least Mats Hummels only goal for Dortmund against PSG that gave them an easy road to the final can send a message of what he can possibly do at the finals against Real Madrid and for the fact that this will be the second finals in the champions league that Marco Reus will be playing at Dortmund means that the legend is gonna take this game too personal so I see hopes for Dortmund and they need this trophy this most because Real Madrid have already secured most trophies in the champions league so even if they lose they won't feel it much so I see anxiousness in the Dortmund team than the Real Madrid side.
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This is the UEFA Champions League finale we're talking about here and not some random friendly match. We know the UEFA Champions League final belongs to Real Madrid because they've always fought their way through and winning the title not withstanding the pressuring opponent they faced what's actually surprising? Borrusia Dortmund are no even up the standards of Real Madrid this season but they still managed to fixed themselves in the UCL finals.

The Champions League is the biggest league in Europe so any club that participates in the competition shows a different performance than usual, namely more optimally than around domestic league matches or friendly matches because if they can win this title then that club will get quite a big appreciation and will become a club which is quite feared, just like Manchester City last season where they just won their first Champions League title and this club received appreciation from most people and after that this club became a club that was quite strong financially and in performance and was quite feared when facing Manchester City whether it's in friendly matches, domestic matches and also the Champions League.

And the last time Dortmund experienced the Champions League title was in 1996 (28 years ago) and now Dortmund has reached the final so it is not impossible that Dortmund will get the title again after waiting for so long, but unfortunately they have to face Real Madrid, a very strong club are favorites in the Champions League even though Dortmund's chances are smaller than Real Madrid. But who knows, maybe Dortmund will get a lucky miracle in the final match.
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Dortmund is my most favorite for this championship, I want them to win this trophy and be happy for once again. Champions league was not designed for only Real Madrid and therefore Dortmund should have the opportunity to make things happen too. The majority of the efforts currently lies in the hands of the manager, because he's the one that will coordinate the players to get the kind of results he need.

If it is Madrid, they will not give up even to the last minute of the match. So consistency is very important and meaningful in this game and they must exhibit that by all means. I suggest Dortmund to struggle for goals in the first half and avoid being scored by the Real Madrid, else they may find it difficult to re-equalize.
Dortmund have had the opportunity to win the UCL trophy since they succeeded in securing a ticket to the final, now this opportunity is in their hands, whether they want to make it happen by trying to perform optimally or letting Real Madrid players party in front of them. Edin Terzic must use a more closed strategy rather than playing openly and carrying out lots of attacks. He must use a defensive strategy like Jose Mourinho usually does when his team faces big teams, focusing on the strength of the defensive line as a way to frustrate opposing players and occasionally trying to carry out dangerous fast counter attacks.

Real Madrid is certainly very ambitious about winning the UCL trophy, Dortmund must be aware of the ambition that Ancelotti and his team carry. Dortmund players must have confidence that Real Madrid can still be beaten to increase their enthusiasm to give their best performance. Whether or not Dortmund succeeds in beating Real Madrid depends on their efforts, how strong their desire is to win the UCL trophy.
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Looking back at how Real Madrid has played against RB Leipzig, it was much closer than I thought it would be. This issue of underestimating the opponent is not a problem that Madrid has, but Dortmund is still different because Madrid doesn't yet know how Dortmund will get into the game from the beginning. I think Dortmund might try to push pretty hard early on.
After going through many matches, Dortmund already shown their strength and weakness so at the final match, they are no longer an underdog with many unknown things about their coach, players and tactics. The information collected through the Dortmund adventure so far will be very helpful for Real Madrid and their preparation for the final match.

I believe at an important final match like Champions League, Real Madrid will not underestimate their opponent because with their experience, they know that mistakes in a final match will be very costly and hardly to cover and come back.

Dortmund will need to play very calmly and focus on their defense, patiently wait for chances to knock Real Madrid down. With any consideration between two teams, Dortmund is always weaker and they will need very proper approach for the final.
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It will be for me very pleasing to see that Dortmund pulls up the surprise most persons are thinking they aren't capable of because it's going to give me that joy and fulfilment that my believe that anything can happen in football is actually a reality a d not that alone but the breaking of the norm that it must be Madrid been the top team that will most likely get to win the trophy will be at that point be broken.
This is the UEFA Champions League finale we're talking about here and not some random friendly match. We know the UEFA Champions League final belongs to Real Madrid because they've always fought their way through and winning the title not withstanding the pressuring opponent they faced. What's actually surprising? Borrusia Dortmund are no even up the standards of Real Madrid this season but they still managed to fixed themselves in the UCL finals.

This could be the most surprising champions league finals. I am having this thought many people might get disappointed. The champions league finals will be more of strength than skill. Although if it is about strength, Vinicius Junior has x3 of everyone's else strength. He could do anything for the title and he has all it takes to do it...

I have really not watched and measured the coherence of the Dortmund team. I just watch them against PSG, that's the only match that I drew my conclusion from and it might be faulty.
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This is the UEFA Champions League finale we're talking about here and not some random friendly match. We know the UEFA Champions League final belongs to Real Madrid because they've always fought their way through and winning the title not withstanding the pressuring opponent they faced. What's actually surprising? Borrusia Dortmund are no even up the standards of Real Madrid this season but they still managed to fixed themselves in the UCL finals.

Surprise can always be happen anytime, including in Champions League final. Putting Real Madrid as favorite to win is a rational thought, but dismissing the chance of Dortmund to win the trophy is irrational. The underdog won a trophy didn't happen once or two in football, there were many cases where a considered weak team won a trophy.

Dortmund was the underdog when they won their first Champions League trophy in 1997 by beating the defending Champion Juventus in the final. This could happen again this time if Real Madrid underestimate the Dortmund's Capability to win. Real Madrid is undoubtedly the better team in every metric than Dortmund, but this reality can be deceitful for Real Madrid Players to think that they will have an easy game to win.
I believe there will be no surprises here. Real Madrid will easily defeat Dortmund. Comparing visually, Dortmund is known as the nursery of star seeds, while Real Madrid is the "galaxy" that gathers the brightest stars of world football. So Dortmund's human resources cannot be compared with Real Madrid. Dortmund will have to face a Real Madrid team that is considered much stronger, they will have to find a possible solution in the final match if they want to overcome. Added In this season, Real Madrid is not only "good" but also "lucky". They eliminated the very strong defending champion Manchester City from the game with a tense penalty shootout in the quarterfinals. Then eliminated Bayern Munich in the semi-finals. Of course, Real Madrid should not underestimate Dortmund. Dortmund deserves to be here. They reached the Champions League Final, they are a tough opponent.
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This is the UEFA Champions League finale we're talking about here and not some random friendly match. We know the UEFA Champions League final belongs to Real Madrid because they've always fought their way through and winning the title not withstanding the pressuring opponent they faced. What's actually surprising? Borrusia Dortmund are no even up the standards of Real Madrid this season but they still managed to fixed themselves in the UCL finals.

Surprise can always be happen anytime, including in Champions League final. Putting Real Madrid as favorite to win is a rational thought, but dismissing the chance of Dortmund to win the trophy is irrational. The underdog won a trophy didn't happen once or two in football, there were many cases where a considered weak team won a trophy.

Dortmund was the underdog when they won their first Champions League trophy in 1997 by beating the defending Champion Juventus in the final. This could happen again this time if Real Madrid underestimate the Dortmund's Capability to win. Real Madrid is undoubtedly the better team in every metric than Dortmund, but this reality can be deceitful for Real Madrid Players to think that they will have an easy game to win.
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Maybe it is me, but I feel like last week of May seems like a better date for this all, instead of pushing it to June. I mean I get it, a lot of teams still have some stuff, but June is way too further away. Last game that Dortmund will have is 18th, and then the next one will be July 1st at UCL finals, that doesn't feel like it is smart, Real Madrid has one at 25th, which is why 1st would make sense for them, but even in that case if UEFA ever said they want to make it at 25th then La Liga would have arranged that game to be earlier, like make the season shorter. We are seeing more and more games, hence why the season starts at August and ends at June, we have like maybe 2 months of no football all year long, I like that but I also think that we should see important games earlier, and then put the meaningless games later on.
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Real Madrid just need a win in the final regardless of when they can confirm that against Dortmund. The final between Real Madrid and Dortmund is much more expected than the other two scenarios that are still possible in the semifinals. I am very confident that Real Madrid will win the Champions League title for the 15th time in history, of course that will make Real Madrid the only team to have 15 titles.

I know Dortmund can be a threat to Real Madrid during the game, so I really don't expect Real Madrid players to underestimate their opponents. Dortmund have a strong defense as they have proven throughout this season in the Champions League, so I don't think it will be very easy for Real Madrid to seal the win in the first 20 minutes.

The roles are defined already and it is almost not worth mentioning that Real Madrid is the favorite in this final, but I prefer to discuss about the ifs indeed. Under normal circumstances, the game probably ends something like 3-1 for Madrid, but now that Dortmund has beaten big clubs and they have done in an impressive manner, this final is going to be a different game than just some more or less normal group stage game. But that applies to both teams.

Looking back at how Real Madrid has played against RB Leipzig, it was much closer than I thought it would be. This issue of underestimating the opponent is not a problem that Madrid has, but Dortmund is still different because Madrid doesn't yet know how Dortmund will get into the game from the beginning. I think Dortmund might try to push pretty hard early on.

When they play against Manchester City or Bayern, they exactly know what is to come. There is no need for them to first wait and see. They know that these teams will take control and create pressure. In the case of Dortmund I am curious myself and I think it is not impossible that Dortmund will be far more aggressive than I think, especially in the first 15-20 minutes of the game. I hope they'll go for it and light some fireworks.
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It will be for me very pleasing to see that Dortmund pulls up the surprise most persons are thinking they aren't capable of because it's going to give me that joy and fulfilment that my believe that anything can happen in football is actually a reality a d not that alone but the breaking of the norm that it must be Madrid been the top team that will most likely get to win the trophy will be at that point be broken.
This is the UEFA Champions League finale we're talking about here and not some random friendly match. We know the UEFA Champions League final belongs to Real Madrid because they've always fought their way through and winning the title not withstanding the pressuring opponent they faced. What's actually surprising? Borrusia Dortmund are no even up the standards of Real Madrid this season but they still managed to fixed themselves in the UCL finals.
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It will be for me very pleasing to see that Dortmund pulls up the surprise most persons are thinking they aren't capable of because it's going to give me that joy and fulfilment that my believe that anything can happen in football is actually a reality a d not that alone but the breaking of the norm that it must be Madrid been the top team that will most likely get to win the trophy will be at that point be broken.

Dortmund is my most favorite for this championship, I want them to win this trophy and be happy for once again. Champions league was not designed for only Real Madrid and therefore Dortmund should have the opportunity to make things happen too. The majority of the efforts currently lies in the hands of the manager, because he's the one that will coordinate the players to get the kind of results he need.

If it is Madrid, they will not give up even to the last minute of the match. So consistency is very important and meaningful in this game and they must exhibit that by all means. I suggest Dortmund to struggle for goals in the first half and avoid being scored by the Real Madrid, else they may find it difficult to re-equalize.
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Next season's champions league is going to really interest me to watch because we will be having some teams like Leverkusen which to me is the best team in Europe this season.They have been unbeaten though out the season,and their records in the league is also super amazing. This is something we don't have to just neglect like that, because for a team to win all it's opponent without being defeated for once is really something rare.Xabi Alonso have done an incredible work at the club so far,and his effort will never go in vein.Before another manager comes to break his record at that club,it will really be hard for him.
Now we are going to have new format for the Champions League as well which is increasing the teams, and we will be having few leagues with 5 teams and few leagues are having cut into their participating teams with they need to increase their quality which will be helpful for them to have the good number of teams into this elite league of UEFA.

There is no doubt things are going to be pretty interesting as many big names are coming back into Champions League for the next season like Liverpool, Juventus and with them Bayer Leverkusen which is having record-breaking season with them, we will be having few teams which are surprises into their own leagues like Girona from La Liga and Aston Villa from the Premier League Bologna from the Serie A this is going to be exciting season after few months.
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