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Dortmund will use all its abilities to face all of Real Madrid's abilities in the Champions League final so it would not be appropriate to underestimate an opponent like Dortmund or vice versa. Both teams still have time to hone the talents of their respective players before the final match begins because this match is a match to use all the abilities that each team has this season. So there are no weak words other than the word luck that must be hoped for by the two teams who in essence will definitely work hard to win in the final.
I agree with what @Frankolala said that Real Madrid will be the UCL champions this season. Yes this is the opinion of most people. I am not underestimating Dortmund but if in the final match Dortmund will give their all, then Real Madrid will also give their all. So the biggest opportunity remains with Madrid. I give 90:10 odds for Real Madrid and Dortmund. Dortmund performed extraordinary and managed to advance to the final but I think only a miracle can make Dortmund able to beat Madrid.
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The luck factor is also accompanied by the hard work of the Dortmund players and it must be admitted that Dortmund's defensive performance is quite impressive.
The final match against Real Madrid is not easy but Dortmund still has a chance.

I will not underestimate Dortmund because I think the final match will be different compared to other matches, especially in the Champions League final match, anything is possible.
Dortmund will use all its abilities to face all of Real Madrid's abilities in the Champions League final so it would not be appropriate to underestimate an opponent like Dortmund or vice versa. Both teams still have time to hone the talents of their respective players before the final match begins because this match is a match to use all the abilities that each team has this season. So there are no weak words other than the word luck that must be hoped for by the two teams who in essence will definitely work hard to win in the final.
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Dortmund's defensive performance in the Champions League is really impressive recently. I will give you that. But against PSG, luck was also right beside them. You would remember how many shots of PSG hit the post in total in both legs. I don't know whether Dortmund would manage to keep Real Madrid out from scoring against them as well.  Huh

Like I said before my expectation is Real Madrid to win in regular time. But I wouldn't say no when it comes to having a different champion in the tournament. There have been decades since Dortmund won the Champions League title the last time.
Exactly, whoever deserves to be the winner should be the winner but why I always think that Real Madrid will be the winner, and is not that I am a Madrid fan. It is only if we will see a better performance from Dortmund compared to that of PSG that it might be possible for Dortmund to win this season UCL.

Apart from that I don't think that it is possible if they continue with that same that against PSG, because Madrid is not as weak a PSG who mostly rely on Mbappe. Real Madrid frontlines both first eleven and the ones on the bench are well experienced in scoring goals which makes them more dangerous at all time. They don't depend solely on one or two players
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I also don't expect anything from Borussia Dortmund in this match, I don't mean to underestimate them, but in terms of opportunities they are below Real Madrid. I just hope that they can play well in this match, I mean even if they lose, they can fight back against Real Madrid and not let them win the title so easily.
They can study Real Madrid's strengths from now on, where their strengths lie and where their weaknesses lie that Borussia Dortmund can exploit in this match. Because Real Madrid is not the type of team that always plays with possession of the ball, they rely more on effective football by carrying out deadly counter-attacks. We can see that from their previous matches, and not just this season, because they always apply a strategy like that.
It seems that you are quite pessimistic if Dortmund might be able to beat Madrid?
Actually, what you think is of course not wrong because indeed Madrid toughness so far in the Champions League is certainly a reference for many people to make Madrid as the favorite to win to get their 15th Champions League trophy, I personally also hope if Dortmund can maintain their performance like against PSG and so maybe open hope for them to beat Madrid and become Champions League champions this season,  Indeed, the hope of seeing Dortmund win is very unlikely but we know anything can happen in football before the referee blows the final whistle.

Edin Terzic managed to surprise us all with his strategy and ability to make Dortmund game quite balanced between attack and defense at this time, so that of course gives a little confidence for me personally to try to bet on Dortmund's victory in the final later, against Madrid, of course Edin Terzic must be able to prepare his squad very well at this time so that they will really have a good mentality and also performance In the match, I think Edin Terzic is a smart coach so most likely he had a special strategy and way to anticipate for break Madrid attack.
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Now or in two weeks Real Madrid will still be the favorite team and nothing will change about that and in fact, when the match starts later it will make no difference. Because after all, if we consider the quality between Real Madrid and Dortmund then it is clear that Real Madrid is still the best. Whether it is a calculation of success in the domestic league or also in the Champions League, Real Madrid will remain superior compared to Dortmund. So yes,don't be surprised if you still get the same results about Real Madrid being the favorite even though you look for different sources.
I also don't expect anything from Borussia Dortmund in this match, I don't mean to underestimate them, but in terms of opportunities they are below Real Madrid. I just hope that they can play well in this match, I mean even if they lose, they can fight back against Real Madrid and not let them win the title so easily.
They can study Real Madrid's strengths from now on, where their strengths lie and where their weaknesses lie that Borussia Dortmund can exploit in this match. Because Real Madrid is not the type of team that always plays with possession of the ball, they rely more on effective football by carrying out deadly counter-attacks. We can see that from their previous matches, and not just this season, because they always apply a strategy like that.
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On my timeline, Niklas Sule's appearance often appears and who would have thought that he was the same player who thwarted Kylian Mbappe's golden opportunity some time ago. Now we can know that Niklas Sule's eating habits are very unnatural with that many calories, making him seem like he is not an ideal football player in general.

I don't think the club will reprimand him at all, especially as it is getting closer to the final match against Real Madrid and if it is allowed to continue like this, it is not impossible that Niklas Sule will lose his place in the starter. He has to face players with high speed like Rodrygo and Vinicius, so how will he stop him if he doesn't lose weight in this short time. It's a shame that eating too much means Niklas Sule will lose his performance.
Currently, in last several matches Niklas Sule have loss his regular position although still memorized with amazing save from Kylian Mbappe attempt at first leg semifinal round but on central defender filled by Matt Hummel and Nico Schlotterbeck. I don't think its joke because Champion League final match left two weeks later and has possibilities for Niklas Sule return back to ideal weight. Its have been habit for European players loss weight but most of them get easily return to ideas balance without needed one week time.

Dortmund has advantage behind this week its last games in competition, difference with Real Madrid has two matches left and make them getting one week time recovery before facing Dortmund.
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I think everyone's favorite is Real Madrid. There are still 2 weeks until the match, which is quite a long time for such a final match. There is time for teams and players to prepare. When we think about who will win the match right now, we can say that Real Madrid is a stronger candidate, but this may change in two weeks.
In such matches, both teams have a lot of chances Smiley
Including my favorite Real Madrid.

Two weeks is a lot of preparation and with Dortmund having only 1 Bundesliga game, it's not a problem for them to lose.
Real Madrid have 2 games left in LaLiga but we know it's only the second string players while the main players will remain fully rested until the time comes.

I looked up some information on social media with polls made by articles and most of them favor Real Madrid to win, I can't argue with this because Madrid is a strong team.

You're right, anything can change in the next two weeks including the preparations.

Now or in two weeks Real Madrid will still be the favorite team and nothing will change about that and in fact, when the match starts later it will make no difference. Because after all, if we consider the quality between Real Madrid and Dortmund then it is clear that Real Madrid is still the best. Whether it is a calculation of success in the domestic league or also in the Champions League, Real Madrid will remain superior compared to Dortmund. So yes,don't be surprised if you still get the same results about Real Madrid being the favorite even though you look for different sources.
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The final match of the Champions League will be a match that is eagerly awaited by world football fans at the moment, when the two teams are able to continue to show quite consistent and stable performance in every match they play in the Champions League this season, Madrid will come with the status of as the king of Europe so it is quite natural for them to be favourites, while Dortmund, who came from the start of the season as the underdog team this season, of course surprised us all because of their consistency and performance in the Champions League, both teams have quite stable performance in their game, even though it is true in terms of quality o course Madrid is above Dortmund at the moment.

What you say will of course happen in the match later, both teams will of course field their best squad in the final match so it will be full of prestige, emotion and high tension, so far Madrid will try to get their 15th trophy this season of course will try to play aggressively with high intensity, but we also cannot deny that it is very likely that Dortmund will be able to make Madrid difficult in the that match and maybe even have the potential to beat Madrid in my opinion.
Dortmund can make the match difficult for Real by playing good defense, as they were able to do against PSG. But let's be honest, PSG's attack is not so strong now, and Dortmund were able to withstand them, but such a trick will not work against Real Madrid, I really doubt that Real Madrid with such attacking potential will not be able to score a single goal. Therefore, Dortmund will have to play well in defense and also try to score, otherwise their chances will not be so great.
Using tactics by playing defensively is very difficult to do because Dortmund will host Real Madrid, while the Real Madrid coach knows how to play and open up space to create goals. Real Madrid will definitely be able to do everything and look for flaws to find Dortmund's weak points.  Carlo Ancelotti, who comes from Italy, certainly knows very well how to open up the opponent's defense. The only way if Dortmund wants to win the match is most likely to provide resistance to put pressure on Real Madrid, if this is not done then Dortmund will be overthrown by Real Madrid.
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Recently Niklas Sule appearance became a hot topic of conversation during a training session with Dortmund ahead of preparations against Real Madrid in the upcoming UCL final. I'm not sure whether he will start in this important match, not that I doubt it but as we know Real Madrid can really benefit. According to SPORTS BRIEF, Sule weight and eating habits are irregular, he often eats 6 pizzas and 8 kebabs. I don't really understand the fitness of football players, but as a lay person seeing Niklas Sule overweight could be a problem for him on the field, especially against Real Madrid which must be taken seriously. Like last time against Mainz Dortmund suffered a 3-0 defeat. I don't mean anything by it, but it's just strange to see because usually football athletes are always on a diet, maintaining their body shape so that they maintain a sixpack.

On my timeline, Niklas Sule's appearance often appears and who would have thought that he was the same player who thwarted Kylian Mbappe's golden opportunity some time ago. Now we can know that Niklas Sule's eating habits are very unnatural with that many calories, making him seem like he is not an ideal football player in general.

I don't think the club will reprimand him at all, especially as it is getting closer to the final match against Real Madrid and if it is allowed to continue like this, it is not impossible that Niklas Sule will lose his place in the starter. He has to face players with high speed like Rodrygo and Vinicius, so how will he stop him if he doesn't lose weight in this short time. It's a shame that eating too much means Niklas Sule will lose his performance.
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Dortmund's defensive performance in the Champions League is really impressive recently. I will give you that. But against PSG, luck was also right beside them. You would remember how many shots of PSG hit the post in total in both legs. I don't know whether Dortmund would manage to keep Real Madrid out from scoring against them as well.  Huh

Like I said before my expectation is Real Madrid to win in regular time. But I wouldn't say no when it comes to having a different champion in the tournament. There have been decades since Dortmund won the Champions League title the last time.
4 shots hitting the goal post were very annoying for PSG, because in my opinion, out of a total of 4, if they didn't hit the goal post 100% would definitely be a big goal for PSG. Dortmund was really lucky at that time because if 4 shots became goals, PSG vs Madrid would be the most prestigious final of the season. Unfortunately, the one who has to qualify is Dortmund, now facing Madrid they will definitely have quite heavy demands to meet. Against Madrid with a half-and-half game will only be easier to win.
Even though I support Madrid's victory, I still hope that Dortmund will provide equal resistance. The motivation in the Final will definitely show something different, Madrid realizes that no one can be underestimated, whoever the opponent is, Ancelotti will play at full strength.
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I think everyone's favorite is Real Madrid. There are still 2 weeks until the match, which is quite a long time for such a final match. There is time for teams and players to prepare. When we think about who will win the match right now, we can say that Real Madrid is a stronger candidate, but this may change in two weeks.
In such matches, both teams have a lot of chances Smiley
Including my favorite Real Madrid.

Two weeks is a lot of preparation and with Dortmund having only 1 Bundesliga game, it's not a problem for them to lose.
Real Madrid have 2 games left in LaLiga but we know it's only the second string players while the main players will remain fully rested until the time comes.

I looked up some information on social media with polls made by articles and most of them favor Real Madrid to win, I can't argue with this because Madrid is a strong team.

You're right, anything can change in the next two weeks including the preparations.
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Dortmund can make the match difficult for Real by playing good defense, as they were able to do against PSG. But let's be honest, PSG's attack is not so strong now, and Dortmund were able to withstand them, but such a trick will not work against Real Madrid, I really doubt that Real Madrid with such attacking potential will not be able to score a single goal. Therefore, Dortmund will have to play well in defense and also try to score, otherwise their chances will not be so great.
I think Terzic will use the same strategy when facing Real Madrid, he has also instructed his players to make special guards on Vinicius and Bellingham to narrow their space. Terzic is not experienced enough in the Champions League compared to Ancelotti, but he has a strategy and a mission to win this trophy.
The only way Dortmund can stop Real Madrid ferocity is by building a strong defense and carrying out quick counterattacks. Dortmund can definitely do it because they have previously implemented this strategy against PSG.
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It will be for me very pleasing to see that Dortmund pulls up the surprise most persons are thinking they aren't capable of because it's going to give me that joy and fulfilment that my believe that anything can happen in football is actually a reality a d not that alone but the breaking of the norm that it must be Madrid been the top team that will most likely get to win the trophy will be at that point be broken.
This is the UEFA Champions League finale we're talking about here and not some random friendly match. We know the UEFA Champions League final belongs to Real Madrid because they've always fought their way through and winning the title not withstanding the pressuring opponent they faced. What's actually surprising? Borrusia Dortmund are no even up the standards of Real Madrid this season but they still managed to fixed themselves in the UCL finals.

Everyone writes Real Madrid on the Champions League trophy, which is fine. Great club, history, and players. Benzema, Modrić, and Ancelotti all qualified as winners. They crushed Bayern. People forget that notoriety alone doesnt determine champions. Not a beauty pageant, but the Champions League final. Dortmund may be underdogs. They're organized, adaptive, and have game-changers. Believe me, they didnt get here by chance.

Madrid has stars, but Dortmund has Jude Bellingham. His experience playing for Madrid has taught him their weaknesses. You think he hasnt told his teammates and coaches? Real Madrid is favored. Games arent won on paper. It concerns field events. Anything can happen on that field. Dortmund may stun the world with a spectacular performance.
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Dortmund's defensive performance in the Champions League is really impressive recently. I will give you that. But against PSG, luck was also right beside them. You would remember how many shots of PSG hit the post in total in both legs. I don't know whether Dortmund would manage to keep Real Madrid out from scoring against them as well.  Huh

Like I said before my expectation is Real Madrid to win in regular time. But I wouldn't say no when it comes to having a different champion in the tournament. There have been decades since Dortmund won the Champions League title the last time.

I think everyone's favorite is Real Madrid. There are still 2 weeks until the match, which is quite a long time for such a final match. There is time for teams and players to prepare. When we think about who will win the match right now, we can say that Real Madrid is a stronger candidate, but this may change in two weeks.
In such matches, both teams have a lot of chances Smiley
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The final match of the Champions League will be a match that is eagerly awaited by world football fans at the moment, when the two teams are able to continue to show quite consistent and stable performance in every match they play in the Champions League this season, Madrid will come with the status of as the king of Europe so it is quite natural for them to be favourites, while Dortmund, who came from the start of the season as the underdog team this season, of course surprised us all because of their consistency and performance in the Champions League, both teams have quite stable performance in their game, even though it is true in terms of quality o course Madrid is above Dortmund at the moment.

What you say will of course happen in the match later, both teams will of course field their best squad in the final match so it will be full of prestige, emotion and high tension, so far Madrid will try to get their 15th trophy this season of course will try to play aggressively with high intensity, but we also cannot deny that it is very likely that Dortmund will be able to make Madrid difficult in the that match and maybe even have the potential to beat Madrid in my opinion.
Dortmund can make the match difficult for Real by playing good defense, as they were able to do against PSG. But let's be honest, PSG's attack is not so strong now, and Dortmund were able to withstand them, but such a trick will not work against Real Madrid, I really doubt that Real Madrid with such attacking potential will not be able to score a single goal. Therefore, Dortmund will have to play well in defense and also try to score, otherwise their chances will not be so great.
PSG attack was definitely strong especially for the second half, they missed a lot of chance to initially equalise that first 1-0 Dortmund were winning, but just as you said, Dortmund can make a match difficult by playing defensively. Now you saying that the Dortmund trick will not work  against Real Madrid might as well not be true. They've mastered these trick to a point that they use it the control the game structure, Real Madrid will definitely have more possession in the game, but Dortmund will certainly use that defensive mechanism to frustrate their effort, thereby making room for counter attack, which Madrid might not be prepared for. For me I see it that, it's a dicey game as I cannot wholeheartedly say it will go the Madrid way, though the odds are in their favour.
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Dortmund's defensive performance in the Champions League is really impressive recently. I will give you that. But against PSG, luck was also right beside them. You would remember how many shots of PSG hit the post in total in both legs. I don't know whether Dortmund would manage to keep Real Madrid out from scoring against them as well.  Huh

Like I said before my expectation is Real Madrid to win in regular time. But I wouldn't say no when it comes to having a different champion in the tournament. There have been decades since Dortmund won the Champions League title the last time.
The luck factor is also accompanied by the hard work of the Dortmund players and it must be admitted that Dortmund's defensive performance is quite impressive.
The final match against Real Madrid is not easy but Dortmund still has a chance.

I will not underestimate Dortmund because I think the final match will be different compared to other matches, especially in the Champions League final match, anything is possible.
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Dortmund's defensive performance in the Champions League is really impressive recently. I will give you that. But against PSG, luck was also right beside them. You would remember how many shots of PSG hit the post in total in both legs. I don't know whether Dortmund would manage to keep Real Madrid out from scoring against them as well.  Huh
The strong defense of Dortmund is a big red flag for Real Madrid before the final match and we should not ignore another factor, luck, which stays with Dortmund in their journey so far.

It is unfair to say Dortmund go to the final match solely because of luck but it's one of things that bring them to the final match. We don't know this season is for Real Madrid or Dortmund but Dortmund have to fight by themselves with belief that they will be another Porto or Greece that won big titles like Champions League and Euro in 2004, twenty years ago.
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Dortmund's defensive performance in the Champions League is really impressive recently. I will give you that. But against PSG, luck was also right beside them. You would remember how many shots of PSG hit the post in total in both legs. I don't know whether Dortmund would manage to keep Real Madrid out from scoring against them as well.  Huh

Like I said before my expectation is Real Madrid to win in regular time. But I wouldn't say no when it comes to having a different champion in the tournament. There have been decades since Dortmund won the Champions League title the last time.
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The final match of the Champions League will be a match that is eagerly awaited by world football fans at the moment, when the two teams are able to continue to show quite consistent and stable performance in every match they play in the Champions League this season, Madrid will come with the status of as the king of Europe so it is quite natural for them to be favourites, while Dortmund, who came from the start of the season as the underdog team this season, of course surprised us all because of their consistency and performance in the Champions League, both teams have quite stable performance in their game, even though it is true in terms of quality o course Madrid is above Dortmund at the moment.

What you say will of course happen in the match later, both teams will of course field their best squad in the final match so it will be full of prestige, emotion and high tension, so far Madrid will try to get their 15th trophy this season of course will try to play aggressively with high intensity, but we also cannot deny that it is very likely that Dortmund will be able to make Madrid difficult in the that match and maybe even have the potential to beat Madrid in my opinion.
Dortmund can make the match difficult for Real by playing good defense, as they were able to do against PSG. But let's be honest, PSG's attack is not so strong now, and Dortmund were able to withstand them, but such a trick will not work against Real Madrid, I really doubt that Real Madrid with such attacking potential will not be able to score a single goal. Therefore, Dortmund will have to play well in defense and also try to score, otherwise their chances will not be so great.
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The UCL final match was full of prestige, emotion and high tension because it brought together the two best teams who were able to eliminate their opponents since the group stage. The eyes of all football fans will be focused on the final that Real Madrid and Dortmund will play, the players will try to show their best performance to bring their team to become champions.
Real Madrid is certainly the favorite to become champion, but Dortmund still has the same chance. I hope that the referee who leads this match can show high sportsmanship without favoring one of the teams, the experience that occurred in the semifinals when the referee's controversial decision which was detrimental to Bayern Munich will not happen again in the final round.
The final match of the Champions League will be a match that is eagerly awaited by world football fans at the moment, when the two teams are able to continue to show quite consistent and stable performance in every match they play in the Champions League this season, Madrid will come with the status of as the king of Europe so it is quite natural for them to be favourites, while Dortmund, who came from the start of the season as the underdog team this season, of course surprised us all because of their consistency and performance in the Champions League, both teams have quite stable performance in their game, even though it is true in terms of quality o course Madrid is above Dortmund at the moment.

What you say will of course happen in the match later, both teams will of course field their best squad in the final match so it will be full of prestige, emotion and high tension, so far Madrid will try to get their 15th trophy this season of course will try to play aggressively with high intensity, but we also cannot deny that it is very likely that Dortmund will be able to make Madrid difficult in the that match and maybe even have the potential to beat Madrid in my opinion.
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