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November 18, 2023, 06:57:23 PM
Newcastle unarguably produced their best performance of the season when they comfortably thrashed Paris Saint Germaine in their first leg meeting of the season but that I don't think is gonna happen again when they visit the French champions after the international break.
Paris Saint Germaine will be playing the game at home and would definitely want to prove a point to everyone that Newcastle's win in their first meeting of the season was just a lucky day for the Magpies and not because Newcastle are better than they are. It's gonna be a tough game but I expect PSG to win the game.
Newcastle are new to the champions league, and to me they have run out of steam to continue to maintain their shocking start to the competition. PSG who are older with more experience as a club in this competition will not let a repeat of the first leg happen again. Newcastle have played many difficult games this season, they cannot continue to maintain a good record from all of them. For the Newcastle team boss, he will be hoping that his players will come back after the International break with no injury concerns.
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November 18, 2023, 06:35:02 PM
They sacrificed La Liga games? How did they do that or where did you find that our or read that? I think I missed any public statement from the Real Sociedad coach where he said that they will be sacrificing La Liga games for the Champions League. This seems to be a new thing then because I never heard of any team that sacrificed league games at the start of the season to win the group games in the Champions League. If you like please share a source where that has been confirmed by Real Sociedad.

You misunderstood me. Of course I don't mean that they did it intentionally. I mean they lost some points in the La Liga matches while they were doing amazing things in the Champions League. Why would they do this intentionally? Why would I mean such thing man?  Cheesy

Anyway I don't know how much longer they can go on in the Champions League. But remembering what Villarreal did a couple of seasons ago here I wonder whether we would see a similar success by Real Sociedad as well.  Grin

Because those were the words you used Wink But it's ok if you clarify afterwards, thanks for doing it.

But believe me I am sometimes shaking my head when I read the comments here about how some teams "intentionally" lose games in one competition in order to be ready to focus on another competition and I am repeatedly saying that this is bullshit.

No team would do that and no coach would give the order to the players to play with less intensity unless they can afford it because they lead the table by many points. But otherwise every player will take the league seriously. Some here said that players would neglect the Champions League to play better in the league...  Grin Of course, a player is living the dream playing in the Champions League but plays bad to have more energy for the domestic league. I don't know how people can come up with that.
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November 18, 2023, 06:26:00 PM
Playing against a team like PSG can't be easy for any team and now we are going to have Newcastle playing against PSG while Newcastle needs to win the game and take the full three points from this match because in the four games Newcastle had so far in the group F, they got only four points which means one point per match and this is not good at all.
But Enrique knows they should not lose points in this match especially since they are playing at home in Parc des Princes.
PSG will have an advantage because they will play at home. No team will easily beat them at home, specifically when they really want to win the match to secure their position for the next round. I'm very sure PSG will play all out, they won't let their opponent to steal points. Against Newcastle, I believe PSG squad is ready to show their best. PSG also has no serious problem about the injured players. Meanwhile Newcastle has a very serious problem about it, there are too many main players injured now. It must bring bit impacts on the performance of Newcastle. So, I think it is very small chance for Newcastle to steal points.


Newcastle unarguably produced their best performance of the season when they comfortably thrashed Paris Saint Germaine in their first leg meeting of the season but that I don't think is gonna happen again when they visit the French champions after the international break.
Paris Saint Germaine will be playing the game at home and would definitely want to prove a point to everyone that Newcastle's win in their first meeting of the season was just a lucky day for the Magpies and not because Newcastle are better than they are. It's gonna be a tough game but I expect PSG to win the game.

Winning Parisians was the shocker but it wasn't about how far they can go but how well. They'll be knocked out alongside Ac Milan, these are the two clubs in that I feel like do not deserve progressing. AC Milan should not even qualify for the Europa League Competition, they'll be sent back to thrive in the Seria A once again.

PSG would defeat Newcastle at home comfortably. The first leg wasn't a lucky one, they earned it but I'd want to see that once again, it can't happen because they've dropped drive and momentum.
I've been expecting a double win at home for the current League 1 defending Champions in the next two games they'll play at home.
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November 18, 2023, 06:18:34 PM
Playing against a team like PSG can't be easy for any team and now we are going to have Newcastle playing against PSG while Newcastle needs to win the game and take the full three points from this match because in the four games Newcastle had so far in the group F, they got only four points which means one point per match and this is not good at all.
But Enrique knows they should not lose points in this match especially since they are playing at home in Parc des Princes.
PSG will have an advantage because they will play at home. No team will easily beat them at home, specifically when they really want to win the match to secure their position for the next round. I'm very sure PSG will play all out, they won't let their opponent to steal points. Against Newcastle, I believe PSG squad is ready to show their best. PSG also has no serious problem about the injured players. Meanwhile Newcastle has a very serious problem about it, there are too many main players injured now. It must bring bit impacts on the performance of Newcastle. So, I think it is very small chance for Newcastle to steal points.


Newcastle unarguably produced their best performance of the season when they comfortably thrashed Paris Saint Germaine in their first leg meeting of the season but that I don't think is gonna happen again when they visit the French champions after the international break.
Paris Saint Germaine will be playing the game at home and would definitely want to prove a point to everyone that Newcastle's win in their first meeting of the season was just a lucky day for the Magpies and not because Newcastle are better than they are. It's gonna be a tough game but I expect PSG to win the game.
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November 18, 2023, 06:10:36 PM
Playing against a team like PSG can't be easy for any team and now we are going to have Newcastle playing against PSG while Newcastle needs to win the game and take the full three points from this match because in the four games Newcastle had so far in the group F, they got only four points which means one point per match and this is not good at all.
But Enrique knows they should not lose points in this match especially since they are playing at home in Parc des Princes.
PSG will have an advantage because they will play at home. No team will easily beat them at home, specifically when they really want to win the match to secure their position for the next round. I'm very sure PSG will play all out, they won't let their opponent to steal points. Against Newcastle, I believe PSG squad is ready to show their best. PSG also has no serious problem about the injured players. Meanwhile Newcastle has a very serious problem about it, there are too many main players injured now. It must bring bit impacts on the performance of Newcastle. So, I think it is very small chance for Newcastle to steal points.

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November 18, 2023, 05:38:34 PM
The aspect of Manchester City deserving another title is it in the Champions League, Premier League, or just both? I don't think that will be possible for Manchester City to accomplish this season, because of their current performance. A single player like Haaland can win the two mentioned leagues trophies alone, he needs the coordination of other players to make it come to fulfillment. Ever since Manchester City sold some of their key players and Kelvin Bruyne had injuries, their performance seems not to be as formidable as before. That would cause them to lose their good performance and the zeal to retain the Premier League and Champions League title again this season.
Every team definitely has a decline in performance and this is based on several things such as player injuries and declining player performance. But what happened in Manchester City, it seems like they are still quite strong and have never lost in the Champions League so their quality so far is still quite strong in the Champions League. In fact, Kevin de Bruyne absence did not have a big impact on them because Manchester City performed well in the 4 matches they played. However, to win the UCL trophy again this season, of course Manchester City still has a chance and if Kevin rejoins the team later. Their strength will be stronger and ready to face big teams from other leagues if they meet each other in the round of 16.

For Erling Haaland, of course he will try his best to make a contribution through the goals he scores in every match. He is still quite dangerous on Manchester City front line this season where Erling Haaland has contributed 4 goals in 4 matches in the Champions League. I think Pep Guardiola still has a fairly strong squad even though several of their players left in the last summer transfer window. From other teams, it is possible that Barcelona, ​​Bayern Munich and Inter Milan will again try to thwart Manchester City mission in winning the title this season.
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November 18, 2023, 05:35:34 PM
They sacrificed La Liga games? How did they do that or where did you find that our or read that? I think I missed any public statement from the Real Sociedad coach where he said that they will be sacrificing La Liga games for the Champions League. This seems to be a new thing then because I never heard of any team that sacrificed league games at the start of the season to win the group games in the Champions League. If you like please share a source where that has been confirmed by Real Sociedad.

You misunderstood me. Of course I don't mean that they did it intentionally. I mean they lost some points in the La Liga matches while they were doing amazing things in the Champions League. Why would they do this intentionally? Why would I mean such thing man?  Cheesy

Anyway I don't know how much longer they can go on in the Champions League. But remembering what Villarreal did a couple of seasons ago here I wonder whether we would see a similar success by Real Sociedad as well.  Grin
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November 18, 2023, 05:18:54 PM

This is Newcastle's first season in the Champions League. Newcastle performed well in the first season. If Newcastle get a chance to play in the Champions League in the future, they can perform better. Moreover, there are no star players in Newcastle's squad. However, Newcastle are able to perform well due to coach Eddie Howe's excellent match strategy. If Newcastle management gives coach Eddie Howe bigger funds then maybe he will be able to strengthen the team.
It is very difficult for Newcastle to qualify for the next round of the Champions League. The team will play against PSG and Milan in the last two matches. Newcastle are likely to lose both matches.
As a "newcomer" team in the Champions League, they actually did a good job. The competition they show is also good, if only they did not join this group F and had an easier group, I am very sure they would be able to qualify from the group stage.
With still having a chance to qualify for the next round, it's something good that they got in this round too. Because if we look at the other groups, then there is at least 1 of them that has already confirmed themselves to be eliminated in the group stage. Hope is still there, they cannot just give up and must maximize the 2 matches available.

In the last season when Newcastle won the Champions League ticket in the Premier League for the first time, I was expecting to see the rich owners they give them more money but they didn't do that and it seems Newcastle didn't have good potential for the Champions League while they are in the same group with the stronger teams like PSG and Dortmund, this can make the situation harder for them and I think this team can't even have a chance to pass this stage in the group F.
 
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November 18, 2023, 05:09:14 PM
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AC Milan not so much anymore as they did show some deficits that I thought they wouldn't have. Since they began with great attacking performances, I did not expect them to have so many problems scoring goals while having so many chances. I would rather add Inter Milan to the selection of clubs that have a good chance to win the Champions League title.

Manchester City seemed to be unbeatable last season, but I agree that this season it's not quite like that.
Milan looks likely to make an early exit from the Champions League this season due to its very inconsistent performance. Not only in the Champions League, but they also performed dubiously in Serie A where they lost a lot of points in their last 4 matches. I know Milan are in a difficult group in the Champions League, but if they can really play with their best quality then of course their chances will be better.

Now Milan only has 2 chances in the next 2 matches. They can use it well to win, but I'm sure it will be difficult considering that other teams also hope to win it to qualify for the round of 16. The odds are not good, but they can maximize it if they really want to qualify.

The next game against Dortmund is what's important. If they win that one, they have the upper hand in the group for several reasons. Nobody knows yet how the game between PSG and Newcastle will end although I expect Newcastle to lose. If AC Milan wins against Dortmund at home, that puts them 1 point ahead of Dortmund and they would have also won the head to head comparison if they end up with the same number of points and this is not impossible. If AC Milan loses the last game and Dortmund ties or loses the last game, AC Milan would still make it into the final round. There is nothing lost as of now.
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November 18, 2023, 05:06:23 PM
Even though they lost many players, the fact is that Manchester City's performance is still very strong and Pep Guardiola still believes that his club will be able to win the highest title in the Champions League even though there is a decline in the performance of several players, but we will see that Manchester City's chances of being able to qualify for the final round are very large as long as His flagship player Haaland has no problems. I'm sure Manchester City still deserves another trophy.
I've never seen a team as consistent and outstanding like Manchester City in the English Premier League over the past seasons, they have contineu to dominate and win trophies. I've no doubt that Manchester City will dugged for important trophies this season, the signs are already there, what matters currently is the time calculated for them. Pep Guardiola is a genius and managers like him tend to fit in any managerial position they found themselves. He has a good chemistry going on with his players and they will definitely provide him with excellent results that he's keen on making.
If it is consistency in terms performance especially in England, then you should give it to the pep guardiola side. It was only Manchester United that I can remember in recent times and that was even during the time of sir Alex Ferguson, that i saw an English team that has such dominance and consistency in European football.
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November 18, 2023, 05:03:12 PM
Even though they lost many players, the fact is that Manchester City's performance is still very strong and Pep Guardiola still believes that his club will be able to win the highest title in the Champions League even though there is a decline in the performance of several players, but we will see that Manchester City's chances of being able to qualify for the final round are very large as long as His flagship player Haaland has no problems. I'm sure Manchester City still deserves another trophy.
The aspect of Manchester City deserving another title is it in the Champions League, Premier League, or just both? I don't think that will be possible for Manchester City to accomplish this season, because of their current performance. A single player like Haaland can win the two mentioned leagues trophies alone, he needs the coordination of other players to make it come to fulfillment. Ever since Manchester City sold some of their key players and Kelvin Bruyne had injuries, their performance seems not to be as formidable as before. That would cause them to lose their good performance and the zeal to retain the Premier League and Champions League title again this season.
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November 18, 2023, 04:25:52 PM
Kevin De Bruyne is out of the squad due to injury. This is why Manchester City have become more dependent on Haaland's performance. But  since Haaland is consistently performing well, we are seeing excellent performances from Manchester City  in every match. On the other hand, Real Madrid team is dependent  on their midfielders. I have no doubt that the two forward  players Vini and Rodrygo are very talented. But they also miss plenty of easy opportunities. It is not possible for Real Madrid to maintain consistency depending on the performance of these two teams. Real Madrid depend on the performance of Kross and Bellingham.

Apparently, we have a slight difference in this point of view. After De Brunye was injured, Pep played more intensely with Alvarez as the main starter. As for Haaland, he is a goalscoring machine for City. Well, because of De Brunye's injury, Pep is currently more inclined to rotate and experiment with what he wants in almost every match. whether it's the system, player rotation, and often making changes to strategy in one match. Of all the players available, it is certain that Pep Guardiola always plays Haaland and Alvarez.

However, the case is different with Jack Grealish. I can't guess what Pep really wants. However, in fact, Grealish is rarely played in domestic competitions. Apart from that, Pep does not hesitate to try experimenting with his players. for example, it is not uncommon to see Rico Lewis playing in the midfielder position. or, Silva is shifted to another position. Nevertheless, City continued to play consistently and wiped out their 4 matches with a win in this group phase.

Talking about Real Madrid, there is unpleasant news for Real Madrid supporters. Several of their core players were injured, such as Vini Jr, Camavingga and several other players. Even though Ancelotti has the option of a substitute, changes in performance could have an impact on the decline. Fortunately, Real Madrid is in a safe position in the group phase and still has the potential to become group winners to ensure they qualify for the round of 16.
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November 18, 2023, 04:25:37 PM

Every club must have key platers that the tean depends on and when those players are not present in any of their matches, it will be noticed because the tram performance will drop. Gundogan and De Bruyne contributed a lot to Manchester City success last season and since Manchester City is lacking these two players, it will affect their performance in reaching the finals.

Real Madrid still have hope that Vini will be back to his top form after some time, we could see this in their previous match in their domestic league where these two players Vini and Rodrigo scored tow goals each. Bellingham is doing great and I don't think that he will not be able to bring out his best performance as he has already shown the world that he is having a wonderful time in Real Madrid with the way he performs his dying minutes magic goals. Kross is doing well only if he has injury that it will be a problem for Real Madrid. From the look of things, I think that Real Madrid has a better chance of winning the league than Manchester City.
For Manchester City, they've got players that are key to them, although the team are good but there are some leakages in the team RN as a result of De Bruyne and Gundogan's absence, yes they still have an upper head in the contest but the team would best be in their top form when these two are present. Not loosing hope in them, they can still do the City magic.

For Madrid, Vinicius' injury is going to be responsible for his absence in subsequent games for a while, hoping that he'd be back on the pitch soon, Madrid has to find a replacement for him, one who's able to some extent match his capacity of else the leakage will be felt more, both Madrid and City are teams without an issue of having good replacements for an absent player, they have adequate skill squad who are young and vibrant and eager to deliver.
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November 18, 2023, 04:03:45 PM
Manchester United is filled with injured players. Goalkeeper Andre Onana was added to the general list. While playing for the Cameroon national team in qualifying for the 2026 World Cup, the goalkeeper was injured. Thus, he was added to the club’s list of injured: Hoylund, Eriksen, Evans, Martinez.

It is a pity that Manchester United got such injuries, because even though Manchester United can still play them in the main squad, but the fact is that Manchester United is still difficult to get good results in each match this seasons. Moreover, at this moment Manchester United is at the bottom of group A and by losing players due to such injuries, it will certainly be more difficult for Manchester United to be able to improve its position in this group phase . Considering also, the two remaining matches for Manchester United are against Galatasaray and against Bayern Munich and thus, Manchester United loses the chance to finish in the top three.

I think he lost his chances of making the top 3 as early as the last match. Galatsaray is obviously playing much better, let alone Bayern. Hence the chances of even qualifying for the Europa League are fading away. I think they need to get their team in order first, and then try for the Eurocups.
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November 18, 2023, 03:02:37 PM
Even though they lost many players, the fact is that Manchester City's performance is still very strong and Pep Guardiola still believes that his club will be able to win the highest title in the Champions League even though there is a decline in the performance of several players, but we will see that Manchester City's chances of being able to qualify for the final round are very large as long as His flagship player Haaland has no problems. I'm sure Manchester City still deserves another trophy.
I've never seen a team as consistent and outstanding like Manchester City in the English Premier League over the past seasons, they have contineu to dominate and win trophies. I've no doubt that Manchester City will dugged for important trophies this season, the signs are already there, what matters currently is the time calculated for them. Pep Guardiola is a genius and managers like him tend to fit in any managerial position they found themselves. He has a good chemistry going on with his players and they will definitely provide him with excellent results that he's keen on making.
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November 18, 2023, 02:56:11 PM
Arsenal come right after the trio of Manchester City - Bayern Munich - Real Madrid as for the biggest title contenders. Bookies are giving quite a good level of chance for Arsenal to be competitive for the Champions League title. Arteta has made a really good level of progress with Arsenal since the day he joined the team.  Smiley

They are getting better and more consistent in the Premier League also on one hand. They are playing ambitiously in the Champions League too. This high effort would end by a good result here hopefully. I especially wonder how good they will be against the biggest title contenders such as the examples I have given.

They beat Manchester City in the Premier League already for example so I wonder what kind of a scenario we would have in the Champions League.  Grin

Arsenal is performing well in the league and the Champions League, but it will be difficult to compete with Manchester, Bayern Munich, and Real Madrid because these three clubs are performing well and have some experienced players in their squads. After the group stage is completed, you will know who is good because from what I'm seeing, I don't think Arsenal will advance past the round of 16 in the Champions League competition because I didn't see any player in the club with Champions League experience. because they are all young players who can't compete with the big clubs in the competition, but let's see how Arteta performs if he can play well in the next round of the Champions League and win the tittle if he can defeat Bayern Munich and Real Madrid in the competition, I will say they will win the tittle but it won't be an easy task for them.

Man United chance to qualify is very big, it's even still in their own hand. They only need to win their last two game. but the thing about Manchester united is their form that makes people doubting their ability to maximize their chance because they have an away game against Galatasaray remembering their away games records is not good.

and also their home game against Bayern is tough. even though Bayern have guaranteed their spot in round of 16, but Manchester United need to be in the right mentality to beat Bayern. This is a big challenge for Ten Hag, because the failure to qualify will hit him and his players mentality in a bad way throughout the season.

He will be very difficult for Manchester United to qualify because they have lost their chances to qualify to the next round because even if they defeat Galatasaray Bayern Munich will not do them any favors and they are playing at Bayern Munich's home expect Tuchel to fuckup and I don't think he will make any mistakes because it has been a long time since Bayern Munich has lost in the group stage of the Champions League and they will continue to keep the record and now that Harry Kane is in the club and is just scoring goals, and I am confident he will score goals against Manchester United.

And now that Galatasaray are in good form in their league, I don't think it will be easy for Manchester United to defeat Galatasaray because they will put in the effort to win the game and qualify for the competition with Bayern Munich because if they draw or win against Manchester United, they will have already qualified because they will defeat Copenhagen.
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November 18, 2023, 02:40:42 PM
Because manchester city was missing some important players. Gundogan, rather than prolonging his time at Manchester City, has opted to join Barcelona, initiating a fresh phase in his career. De bruyne was also getting serious injury. This makes city has lost a lot of its strength compared with last season but pep is again and again become the main reason why manchester city will still exist in the UCL till years later. The story of gundogan and de bruyne has become the starting of bad performance from manchester city this season.
Even though they lost many player, the fact is that Manchester City performance is still very strong and Pep Guardiola still believes that his club will be able to win highest title in champions league even though there a decline in performance a several player, but we will see that manchester City chances of being able to qualify for the final round are very large as long as his flagship player Haaland has no problems I am sure Manchester city still deserves another trophy.
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November 18, 2023, 02:34:18 PM
Manchester United is filled with injured players. Goalkeeper Andre Onana was added to the general list. While playing for the Cameroon national team in qualifying for the 2026 World Cup, the goalkeeper was injured. Thus, he was added to the club’s list of injured: Hoylund, Eriksen, Evans, Martinez.

Is it just me or is the number of injuries during this break abnormal? Real lost two players at once, some clubs have also already suffered and there are still enough games ahead for the list of injured to be replenished. I would like to know what this is connected with - for example, last season had a tighter schedule of games due to the winter World Cup, but I don’t remember such an epidemic of injuries.
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November 18, 2023, 02:28:13 PM
Kevin De Bruyne is out of the squad due to injury. This is why Manchester City have become more dependent on Haaland's performance. But  since Haaland is consistently performing well, we are seeing excellent performances from Manchester City  in every match. On the other hand, Real Madrid team is dependent  on their midfielders. I have no doubt that the two forward  players Vini and Rodrygo are very talented. But they also miss plenty of easy opportunities. It is not possible for Real Madrid to maintain consistency depending on the performance of these two teams. Real Madrid depend on the performance of Kross and Bellingham.
Every club must have key platers that the tean depends on and when those players are not present in any of their matches, it will be noticed because the tram performance will drop. Gundogan and De Bruyne contributed a lot to Manchester City success last season and since Manchester City is lacking these two players, it will affect their performance in reaching the finals.

Real Madrid still have hope that Vini will be back to his top form after some time, we could see this in their previous match in their domestic league where these two players Vini and Rodrigo scored tow goals each. Bellingham is doing great and I don't think that he will not be able to bring out his best performance as he has already shown the world that he is having a wonderful time in Real Madrid with the way he performs his dying minutes magic goals. Kross is doing well only if he has injury that it will be a problem for Real Madrid. From the look of things, I think that Real Madrid has a better chance of winning the league than Manchester City.
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November 18, 2023, 02:25:08 PM
Arsenal come right after the trio of Manchester City - Bayern Munich - Real Madrid as for the biggest title contenders. Bookies are giving quite a good level of chance for Arsenal to be competitive for the Champions League title. Arteta has made a really good level of progress with Arsenal since the day he joined the team.  Smiley

They are getting better and more consistent in the Premier League also on one hand. They are playing ambitiously in the Champions League too. This high effort would end by a good result here hopefully. I especially wonder how good they will be against the biggest title contenders such as the examples I have given.

They beat Manchester City in the Premier League already for example so I wonder what kind of a scenario we would have in the Champions League.  Grin

Honestly for me Arsenal doesn't have a team ready to win the Champions League, it's true that they play well but honestly they don't seem equipped enough to win, to start with that Arsenal isn't yet sure of going through and there's still 2 to go quite important matches, so the estimates given by the bookmakers are a bit random in my opinion, but I could also be wrong
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