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November 09, 2023, 06:18:30 AM
Man United at best are getting to Europa League and worst is they are out being bottom of the table. I think they have a decent chance to beat Galatasaray in Turkey but their last match is against Bayern. In United's best case, they beat Galatasaray and hope Galatasaray lose their final game in Denmark.
This is a very difficult thing for Manchester United, because apart from having to win against Galatasaray at the Rams Global Stadyumu, Manchester United also still has to hope that Galatasaray will lose again in the last match. It is clear that it is not an easy condition for Manchester United at the moment, which even looks difficult to reach the Europa League even though they still have a chance to do so. However, currently Galatasaray and Copenhagen also look better in the Champions League group.

with the level of squad's mentality right now, Manchester united have slim hope to qualify for round of 16. the loss in Denmark hits their mentality so hard. it seems that Ten Hag still can't find a solution to fix the situation they need on the pitch and off the pitch. this result invites pressure even more for the chance to stay in champions league that makes the next game could be the last meaningful game.

The chance is very small atm. The only chance if manchester united will able to beat galatasaray and bayern. The match against bayern doubts him right now. Im thinking MU is going to lose against bayern instead of winning the game. The mentality owned by bayern is far stronger compared with MU even when tuchel's club must have played away against manchester united. The problem is MU will be playing away against galatasaray which has become another trouble. The lost against galatasaray will make MU out from the UCL.
The club will have no chance to play in europa league as well. I think that galatasaray is far favorite to win the game against manchester united soon. Playing at home would be obviously boost the mentality from galatasaray.
Galatasaray won in the first leg. It makes bookies favoring galatasaray instead of manchester united. It's time for united to reevaluate its club.
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November 09, 2023, 06:07:10 AM
Manchester United is becoming a joke team this season in everywhere they are playing,in all competitions,both in the Champions League and the Premier League.Honestly I still cannot understand how a red card can impact the game that much for them to concede 4 goals,concede 4 goals from a team who is weaker and who plays in a much weaker competition than the Premier League.

If they don't sack Ten Haag which I think is the root cause of all the bad things happening to Manchester United then they should be prepared for much worse than what they have already suffered.
Manchester would probably have sacked Ten Hag a long time ago, but there is no money for a new coach, the club has huge debts.

Copenhagen are not such a weak team, after all, they play in the Champions League and soccer is not the same as before, where you could successfully defend with ten men. Now a red card, especially at the beginning of the match is almost a sentence.
In addition, Manchester had their main striker suspended and the chance for successful attacks immediately fell and the role of striker tried to play McGuire.

Manchester have a chance to get out of the group, but they are very small, and with such a game will be good if they take at least 3rd place.

That's a shame for a team like Manchester United to lose a game against Copenhagen in the Champions League. Copenhagen is not a strong team and they don't have any hope for this tournament but Manchester United had a poor performance in this game which is enough for any team to use the chance and win the game. In fact, Manchester United was a top team in this tournament and now they are losing games against weak teams.

Manchester United are no longer the same team they were even a year or two ago. Out of their 17 games Manchester United have lost 9, the percentage of defeats is already over 50 and it seems that this is the worst result for 50 years, so the defeat against Copenhagen was statistically expected. 
Before the game with Manchester, Copenhagen won 4 out of 5 games and they played well, yes without Rashford's suspension the victory probably would not have happened, but they could probably draw.

Given that Bayern Munich are already in the playoffs, now 3 teams will play on equal terms to get out of the group. While Galatasaray have the best chances, they need to draw with Manchester United and beat Copenhagen and then Mauro Icardi's team will definitely get out of the group. Manchester need to win the remaining 2 games and then they will have a chance to get out of the group.
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November 09, 2023, 05:45:03 AM
After today's results, the second place in Group A of the Champions League will become clearer. I don't think Galatasaray will have much of a chance in the Galatasaray - Bayern Munich match. They had that chance once, but they were complaining that it didn't happen.

Now, I think Bayern Munich will have no mercy on Galatasaray at home and will win four out of four in the group. The result of the Copenhagen - Manchester United match will determine the second team more clearly. If Copenhagen wins today, Galatasaray's chances of getting out of the group will increase considerably.
Talking about Galatasaray who will compete against Bayern Munich is already a guarantee of victory for Munich, whereas before competing at home, Galatasaray was unable to withstand every attack from Munich because in terms of player quality it was very different and today the match will be very difficult for Galatasaray who will compete away and guess the score. I'm like 4-1.
Next, for Manchester United, which will play against Copenhagen, I predict it will likely end in a draw because Copenhagen's performance when they are at home has very strong confidence to withstand attacks from Manchester United.
Galatasaray did a very good job in the away game. There was a red card that was not given, but if it had been given, perhaps the outcome of the match would have changed. Anyway, I think it was positive because, as I said, Copenhagen managed to beat Manchester United, so Galatasaray had a very advantageous position in the group. Also, what kind of match was the Copenhagen - Manchester United match?

Both teams put in a lot of effort to win, but Copenhagen won just as I wanted.
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November 09, 2023, 05:44:24 AM
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I have seen different opinions about the refereeing in the Copenhagen - United game, but personally it seems to me that the referee was wrong (or made controversial decisions) in both directions. In any case, it doesn’t matter because if clowning happens on a regular basis, then the problem is with the coach and not with “endless accidents.” In addition, if you look at the games where United won, it is obvious that a huge part of these victories are also pure coincidence.
The red card for Marcus Rashford is very serious and it's so unlucky for Rashford to have a foul and a red card like this. That foul can cause a serious injury on the Copenhagen player but Rashford did not try to make a foul. A yellow card can be enough in that situation but referee sometimes have to make decision without some thinking that what if it is a yellow card and what if it is a red card. They don't have time to think too much like we can spend hours or days to think and discuss about it. In an on going match, decisions must be made quickly and it gives chance for mistake, wrong decision.

The odds shows Manchester United chance is smaller after this defeat and maybe they will have to wait for a next season to go to a Round of 16 in Champions League.

A red card is nothing compared to the serious injury that Rashford could have caused (whether intentionally or not) so I would say the punishment was fair.
What next season are you talking about?  Grin United are in 8th place in the Premier League and the problem is not the number of points, but the fact that their game is as poor as possible and I assess this 8th place as a deviation from a fair result upwards.
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November 09, 2023, 05:36:54 AM
Man United at best are getting to Europa League and worst is they are out being bottom of the table. I think they have a decent chance to beat Galatasaray in Turkey but their last match is against Bayern. In United's best case, they beat Galatasaray and hope Galatasaray lose their final game in Denmark.
This is a very difficult thing for Manchester United, because apart from having to win against Galatasaray at the Rams Global Stadyumu, Manchester United also still has to hope that Galatasaray will lose again in the last match. It is clear that it is not an easy condition for Manchester United at the moment, which even looks difficult to reach the Europa League even though they still have a chance to do so. However, currently Galatasaray and Copenhagen also look better in the Champions League group.

with the level of squad's mentality right now, Manchester united have slim hope to qualify for round of 16. the loss in Denmark hits their mentality so hard. it seems that Ten Hag still can't find a solution to fix the situation they need on the pitch and off the pitch. this result invites pressure even more for the chance to stay in champions league that makes the next game could be the last meaningful game.
They really have slim chances to qualify to round 16, Galatasaray and Copenhagen are just ahead of Manchester United with just a point only if they can win their next match against Galatasaray the hope will be a little bigger but the main issue is that they are playing away while Galatasaray are hosting, my question is can Manchester United win Galatasaray at home? If they can win is better for them because Copenhagen will lose against Bayern Munich, Bayern Munich current form now are unstoppable because kane is really on fire now doing what he love doing, scoring goals.
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November 09, 2023, 05:34:20 AM
Hojlund has never being a happy ending for United.
Initially the game between Copenhagen vs Manchester United was going in favour of the red devil in the 35th minutes of the first half but eventually that favour couldn't survive the first half,  The red card given to Marcos Rashford is negatively impacting on the team which gave Copenhagen the liberty to get their two goals just after that red card. This game gonna end badly for United in the second half as their opponent is  eager and pressing to get more goal to the back of the net .

Madrid leading against Braga by a goal to nothing. Diaz B scoring the close range  goal with so much velocity.
Galatasaray keeper Muslera has made many great saves in the first half Saving all shots thrown at him by the Bayern striker Harry Kane ending the first 45 minutes in a goalless draw.
Copenhagen are favorites to win this game, afterall they're the home team. Manchester united are so unlucky in UCL this season, just funny how the game they were leading 2 nil after Rasmus Højlund net a brace and was aiming for an hat-trick, i guessed that's not longer going to happen. Marcus Rashford was issued a red card after a dangerous tackle on his opposition. That alone ruined the entire Erik Ten Hag plans. Its 2-2 on the scoresheet, with a man down on Manchester United. The big question pops up will Manchester United mantain the balance level or concede more goals this second half.
Manchester united aren't unlucky this season an unlucky team is that team that's in too form playing impressively with clinical plays but not getting the results they deserve and this can't be said of Manchester united for they have had poor performance not only in the UCL but in the EPL. The red red card received by M. Rashford in this game worsened their condition destroying their chance of winning the match that they had already taken a lead on with 2 goals. At the 69 mins when Fernandes scored the penalty kick giving United their 3rd goal making it 2:3 in my opinion I thought the scores can only get worse for them with a 3:3 draw as they were one man down but United couldn't brace up to that only to later concede two goals in 5mins losing the match by a 4:3 score.
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November 09, 2023, 05:26:04 AM
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I have seen different opinions about the refereeing in the Copenhagen - United game, but personally it seems to me that the referee was wrong (or made controversial decisions) in both directions. In any case, it doesn’t matter because if clowning happens on a regular basis, then the problem is with the coach and not with “endless accidents.” In addition, if you look at the games where United won, it is obvious that a huge part of these victories are also pure coincidence.
The red card for Marcus Rashford is very serious and it's so unlucky for Rashford to have a foul and a red card like this. That foul can cause a serious injury on the Copenhagen player but Rashford did not try to make a foul. A yellow card can be enough in that situation but referee sometimes have to make decision without some thinking that what if it is a yellow card and what if it is a red card. They don't have time to think too much like we can spend hours or days to think and discuss about it. In an on going match, decisions must be made quickly and it gives chance for mistake, wrong decision.

The odds shows Manchester United chance is smaller after this defeat and maybe they will have to wait for a next season to go to a Round of 16 in Champions League.
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November 09, 2023, 05:24:45 AM
Blaming Erik Ten Hag for United's loss is insensitive because these Manchester players are discourteous in my opinion. Manchester United's defeat to Copenhagen was an unforeseen occurrence because I determine no reason why Marcus Rashford would commit a heinous foul by matching his opponent with his boot, not to mention pressing him with his pin. Some viewers expressed their opinions, describing it as an involuntary action, but the referee has the final say, and he issued Rashford a red card for a deliberate action. Prior to it, United was leading 2 nil but couldn't defend their territory, conceding two goals in the first half. In the second half, they couldn't withstand the pressure and lost threw points.
I enjoyed reading your response regarding the defeat suffered by Manchester United in the fourth match of Group A. It is not appropriate to blame Erik ten Hag for this unexpected defeat because Manchester United appeared dominant before the red card incident that Marcus Rashford had to receive.

Manchester United's defeat confirmed rumors about Erik ten Hag's dismissal from the Manchester United coaching chair because during the five matches that Manchester United had played, the defeat against FC Kobenhavn was the third defeat after winning against Fulham in the Premier League.
The media also did not stop raising issues after this defeat. There are those who think that Manchester United's defeat after Rasmus Hojlund's quick goal in the third minute was because they underestimated their opponents.

It is true. This defeat left Manchester United at the bottom of Group A. This does not mean that Manchester United has lost hope of qualifying. There are 2 more matches and in these two matches, if Manchester United is able to win, then they will qualify.
This is football. Things that were considered impossible can turn into possible.
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November 09, 2023, 05:24:40 AM

Maybe Rashford did it unintentionally. However it is really the sad truth about him that he is quite bad this season. There is an enormous gap between Rashford in the previous season and now. I don't know maybe this is related to some serious level of concentration loss compared to previously. Because he was really incredible back then.

Copenhagen are really trying in this group. I admire their high effort. I don't know how much successful they can be after the last two games left though. I feel like they would lose to Bayern Munich in Germany even though Bayern Munich guaranteed their lead. If Galatasaray play better than they did against them before then Copenhagen would be in trouble in that one as well.

It's not just Rashford, or this particular match, United look very bad and the truth is that ten Hag doesn't know how to fix it. Manchester United looks bad both in the Champions League and in the Premier League, and with such a game they have nothing to do in the playoffs. Yes, ten Hag says that the red card and refereeing errors are to blame, but if this was an isolated case, then one could agree with this, but Manchester United is really bad this season.
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November 09, 2023, 05:09:29 AM
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I have seen different opinions about the refereeing in the Copenhagen - United game, but personally it seems to me that the referee was wrong (or made controversial decisions) in both directions. In any case, it doesn’t matter because if clowning happens on a regular basis, then the problem is with the coach and not with “endless accidents.” In addition, if you look at the games where United won, it is obvious that a huge part of these victories are also pure coincidence.
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November 09, 2023, 05:06:28 AM
What an amazing game it was between Copenhagen and Manchester United! Rashford is in huge trouble this season. His performance has dropped so much and he even got a red card tonight which led to his team to get a loss. Copenhagen can be a really dangerous team when there is an opportunity. We saw that while they were hosting Bayern Munich as well.

Copenhagen got an unforgettable win for themselves but this made things even more fired up in the group. If Galatasaray got at least one point then it wouldn't have been this complicated. However I still believe they are strong enough to beat the Red Devils and Copenhagen both in the remaining games. The thing they need is better finishing skills.

Did Rashford make the fault intentionally, lets say to make an injury for the Copenhagen's player? If he did it intentionally, I have to say that he did stupid thing as he did not need to do it. But if he did not do it intentionally, it was so unlucky accident. Red devils started the match well, although it was not their best but at least they could lead by 2 goals first. The red card was a nightmare for the whole team as well as for the fans. Even if there was no red card, I will say that Copenhagen played well too because they could create some chances before the red card. The result make the red devils in the bottom of the standing with 3 point, and the competition to be the 2nd team to qualify become harder for red devils but it becomes more interesting.

Maybe Rashford did it unintentionally. However it is really the sad truth about him that he is quite bad this season. There is an enormous gap between Rashford in the previous season and now. I don't know maybe this is related to some serious level of concentration loss compared to previously. Because he was really incredible back then.

Copenhagen are really trying in this group. I admire their high effort. I don't know how much successful they can be after the last two games left though. I feel like they would lose to Bayern Munich in Germany even though Bayern Munich guaranteed their lead. If Galatasaray play better than they did against them before then Copenhagen would be in trouble in that one as well.
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November 09, 2023, 05:05:18 AM
Man United at best are getting to Europa League and worst is they are out being bottom of the table. I think they have a decent chance to beat Galatasaray in Turkey but their last match is against Bayern. In United's best case, they beat Galatasaray and hope Galatasaray lose their final game in Denmark.
This is a very difficult thing for Manchester United, because apart from having to win against Galatasaray at the Rams Global Stadyumu, Manchester United also still has to hope that Galatasaray will lose again in the last match. It is clear that it is not an easy condition for Manchester United at the moment, which even looks difficult to reach the Europa League even though they still have a chance to do so. However, currently Galatasaray and Copenhagen also look better in the Champions League group.

with the level of squad's mentality right now, Manchester united have slim hope to qualify for round of 16. the loss in Denmark hits their mentality so hard. it seems that Ten Hag still can't find a solution to fix the situation they need on the pitch and off the pitch. this result invites pressure even more for the chance to stay in champions league that makes the next game could be the last meaningful game.
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November 09, 2023, 05:04:29 AM
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It seems like Manchester United needs new things from a coach this season, because if Erik Ten Hag can't provide more different input or direction for his players now, bad results like that will continue to happen to Manchester United this season.
I also think that after yesterday's defeat at Copenhagen (who played surprisingly well again) the discussion about ETH will flare up again. His statements after the game were also very unfortunate in my opinion and make him look more like a whiny child than a coach of one of the (at least formerly Wink ) best clubs in Europe.

It will now be very difficult for ManU to even reach 3rd place in the group. ETH will certainly not survive being eliminated from all international competitions after the group stage as a coach.
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November 09, 2023, 05:00:48 AM
But in fact Manchester United's performance in the Premier League is also in a very bad state, this is not about the mentality of the Manchester United players being bad, it is indeed the Manchester United team's play that is very bad and that can be seen in all competitions.
There is no one else to blame except Erik Ten Hag, and all the Manchester United players in this season's squad are the players he wants.
The Manchester United team has been built according to Erik Teen Hag's wishes, but he still failed to improve the team's performance.
It seems like Manchester United needs new things from a coach this season, because if Erik Ten Hag can't provide more different input or direction for his players now, bad results like that will continue to happen to Manchester United this season. Even though Manchester United was a team with a fairly good class before being coached by Erik Ten Hag, the team management must see this as a more accurate comparison so that they can carry out more different executions in rebuilding the Manchester United team's performance.
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November 09, 2023, 05:00:12 AM
Manchester United is becoming a joke team this season in everywhere they are playing,in all competitions,both in the Champions League and the Premier League.Honestly I still cannot understand how a red card can impact the game that much for them to concede 4 goals,concede 4 goals from a team who is weaker and who plays in a much weaker competition than the Premier League.

If they don't sack Ten Haag which I think is the root cause of all the bad things happening to Manchester United then they should be prepared for much worse than what they have already suffered.

To be honest, I think firing Teg Haag will be the best course of action for Manchester United. This season, I think the team's performance is even worse than Chelsea's. How can a team that leads 3-2 against Copenhagen eventually lose 4-3 to Manchester United to Copenhagen? The way Manchester United plays is just too poor; this is not just the players' responsibility; Teg haag is to blame; he has no idea who the best players are to start games with. If they continue to play that player without firing him, the team's performance will be even worse than it was this season.

Another issue with Manchester United is Rashford. As a coach, I would never start a game with Rashford; instead, I would always make sure to bench him so that he would know how to play a mature game when he got on the field. I always blame Chelsea for not knowing how to play defence, but Manchester United is worse. When they realise that they are winning, the defensive players for Manchester United, especially Maguire, don't know how to play properly. I believe that he and Teg Haag are plotting something foolish for the team. Maguire needs a coach who can handle him well.
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November 09, 2023, 04:56:28 AM
Have been wondering what happened to Manchester United especially ETH, does he even have any tactics in winning a game even with one man down?
Manchester United have been struggling this season quite alright but the game last night was the game UTD should have gotten at least a point, let's forget the red card if it was deserving or not but come on, Manchester United was looking for a goal to make the game end in their favor, either end in a draw or something might happen to get a win, and ETH went on to substitute Hojlund who's looking for a way to get a goal for the team and ETH brought in Mount, to do what? What has Mount contributed to the United team since joining the side from Chelsea?
It is official that ETH can't control the game under pressure, the Tottenham Hotspur coach Ange Postecoglou is a good example of a coach who can handle pressure.
What if Man UTD had gotten 2 red cards that means the United team would have conceded more than 4 goals. ETH should stop complaining about the red card and the ref officiating.
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Manchester united were actually playing fine until after the red card and everything changed to opposite direction. In fact, I can say that that game was the best display from them in the recent days but unfortunately the result was not in their favor. Red card is actually not supposed to have much influence since they were playing a weaker team. We all saw how Tottenham played against Chelsea despite they were two men down.

ETH is to be blame in most of Manchester united defeat due to his lack of tactics because I don’t know why Rashford started in the first place. Honestly, this guy and Varane are against this manager and we can all see it but ETH keeps putting him because of English media. Rashford is a mess killing manchester united honestly and he was not even sad and won’t react positively next game for selling this one away.
I remember when all the blame was all about Ronaldo, even when he saved Manchester United's ass so many times on European nights. When he talked about how things need to be changed at United. Many looked at him as villian. I am glad people are now waking up and realizing that there is a huge problem at United starting with the management

Maybe Manchester United shouldn't have sucked their homeboy Ole in the first place. Possibly they would be much better than they are right now.
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November 09, 2023, 04:26:34 AM
Inter Real and Bayern are already qualified for the final phase of the Champions.

Whatever they will do in the next 2 games they will be already in, is impressive.
Achieving this with two matches to play is actually impressive not all teams can achieve this in the champions league and if you observe this teams closely they are all in good form lately even in their domestic leagues. Bayern Munich have been in good form and the only match they lost after a long time was when they were knocked out in the German cup by a third division club. They have been excellent lately and I think the transfer of Harry Kane has helped them well though despite this excellent run of form they still sit second on the table 2 points behind Bayern Leverkursen but i believe they would soon take their spot.

Real Madrid and Inter are also giving excellent performances recently so it is only right for them to qualify for the knockout with 2 more games to play. It is not a surprise seeing their performance in recent games and being so consistent with wins so they deserved it and if they continue this way they can even go farther in the competition.

Real Madrid's performance against Braga was really good. I did not think that Madrid will play so well in this match. I don't expect a good performance from Madrid in this match as Bellingham was not the most important player in their squad. He suffered minor injuries. Still, it's admirable that Madrid's players have performed as well as Bellingham. From Vini and Rodrygo we have not had good performances in the past matches. However, in this match, these two players performed well and brought Madrid to a 3-0 victory.

After drawing the first match against Real Sociedad, Inter Milan won all three matches in a row. Milan continued their dominance in Serie A as well as the Champions League. Inter Milan will probably qualify for the knockout rounds from the top spot in Group D.
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November 09, 2023, 04:19:22 AM
Inter Real and Bayern are already qualified for the final phase of the Champions.

Whatever they will do in the next 2 games they will be already in, is impressive.
Achieving this with two matches to play is actually impressive not all teams can achieve this in the champions league and if you observe this teams closely they are all in good form lately even in their domestic leagues. Bayern Munich have been in good form and the only match they lost after a long time was when they were knocked out in the German cup by a third division club. They have been excellent lately and I think the transfer of Harry Kane has helped them well though despite this excellent run of form they still sit second on the table 2 points behind Bayern Leverkursen but i believe they would soon take their spot.

Real Madrid and Inter are also giving excellent performances recently so it is only right for them to qualify for the knockout with 2 more games to play. It is not a surprise seeing their performance in recent games and being so consistent with wins so they deserved it and if they continue this way they can even go farther in the competition.
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November 09, 2023, 04:18:05 AM
Manchester United is becoming a joke team this season in everywhere they are playing,in all competitions,both in the Champions League and the Premier League.Honestly I still cannot understand how a red card can impact the game that much for them to concede 4 goals,concede 4 goals from a team who is weaker and who plays in a much weaker competition than the Premier League.

If they don't sack Ten Haag which I think is the root cause of all the bad things happening to Manchester United then they should be prepared for much worse than what they have already suffered.
Manchester would probably have sacked Ten Hag a long time ago, but there is no money for a new coach, the club has huge debts.

Copenhagen are not such a weak team, after all, they play in the Champions League and soccer is not the same as before, where you could successfully defend with ten men. Now a red card, especially at the beginning of the match is almost a sentence.
In addition, Manchester had their main striker suspended and the chance for successful attacks immediately fell and the role of striker tried to play McGuire.

Manchester have a chance to get out of the group, but they are very small, and with such a game will be good if they take at least 3rd place.

That's a shame for a team like Manchester United to lose a game against Copenhagen in the Champions League. Copenhagen is not a strong team and they don't have any hope for this tournament but Manchester United had a poor performance in this game which is enough for any team to use the chance and win the game. In fact, Manchester United was a top team in this tournament and now they are losing games against weak teams.

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