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Quote from: boltz on November 09, 2023, 08:42:25 AM

It seems nothing can save United this season and now they are last place in their UCL group and with low chances to actually catch Europa League spot. This is also the worst season I do remember for United in the last 2 decades and it's a shame to see such a big club doing so bad.

In fact, since last season, many have said that MU will fail with Ten Haag. However, management still believes in this coach. from my simple analysis, I think MU still has several scenarios to qualify for the next phase. The scenario is similar to AC Milan.

In the next match, MU will face Galatasaray. In this match, MU must be able to draw or better win and Copenhagen draw or lose to their opponent. If, the worst is a draw and Copenhagen also draws, then the final determination will be on the last match day. So, on this last matchday, MU has to wait for the results from Copenhagen vs Galatasaray. If Copenhagen draws, then MU must say goodbye to UCL.

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Quote from: rendravolt on November 09, 2023, 09:09:59 AM

It didn't seem to be a problem for Real Madrid in last night's match against Braga without Jude Bellingham and they still won with a landslide score of 3-0. In that match, Ancelotti changed his formation to 4-3-3 and placed Vinicius, Rodrygo and Brahim Diaz as the axis of attack. As a result, the three players each scored a goal for Real Madrid's victory at home and at the same time secured a place to qualify for the round of 16.

They know Braga is a weak team, if Real Madrid didn't create any score during first half, I believe Ancelotti will replace Diaz with Bellingham. Real Madrid has a very secure position right now, they don't have to let their key players to play. Bellingham is a human too, he can be tired and he need rest.

Quote from: boltz on November 09, 2023, 08:42:25 AM

It seems nothing can save United this season and now they are last place in their UCL group and with low chances to actually catch Europa League spot. This is also the worst season I do remember for United in the last 2 decades and it's a shame to see such a big club doing so bad.

All of the three teams in Group A can beat Manchester United, the chance for them to reach third position is hard as Rashford is suspended due to received red card.

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Quote from: boltz on November 09, 2023, 08:42:25 AM

It seems nothing can save United this season and now they are last place in their UCL group and with low chances to actually catch Europa League spot. This is also the worst season I do remember for United in the last 2 decades and it's a shame to see such a big club doing so bad.

Actually, with their current situation, it can still be done, it's just that this is very difficult because it is like a mission that must get out of the needle hole for Manchester United.
They still have 2 matches remaining and if in the end there is a miracle with they can win against Bayern in the last match and manage to avenge Galatasaray then indeed their chance is still there with Copenhagen and Galatasaray must lose at least 1 time but indeed if in the end they cannot win in the rest of their matches then indeed there is no chance.
Currently they are indeed at the bottom of the standings but in terms of points they are only 1 point behind Galatasaray and Copenhagen so their chances are still there to qualify for the knock out phase even though it is very heavy.

There is still a chance for Manchester United to qualify for the last 16, they only need to fully secure the remaining 2 matches in the future, so the maximum points they can achieve is 9 points. But this is very difficult to make happen, because we know their next opponents will be Galatasaray and Bayern Munchen. Both clubs have beaten United in the first leg, so it is difficult to believe United can collect maximum points in these two matches.

Whatever the scenario, United fate really depends on the results of the Galatasaray and Copenhagen matches, while it is certain that Munchen will not encounter any difficulties. I think the most realistic opportunity now for Ten Hag is to bring his squad to finish in third place, and continue their journey in the Europa League, that is if they are able to compete there.

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Quote from: topbitcoin on November 09, 2023, 09:05:15 AM

Quote from: boltz on November 09, 2023, 08:42:25 AM

It seems nothing can save United this season and now they are last place in their UCL group and with low chances to actually catch Europa League spot. This is also the worst season I do remember for United in the last 2 decades and it's a shame to see such a big club doing so bad.

Actually, with their current situation, it can still be done, it's just that this is very difficult because it is like a mission that must get out of the needle hole for Manchester United.
They still have 2 matches remaining and if in the end there is a miracle with they can win against Bayern in the last match and manage to avenge Galatasaray then indeed their chance is still there with Copenhagen and Galatasaray must lose at least 1 time but indeed if in the end they cannot win in the rest of their matches then indeed there is no chance.
Currently they are indeed at the bottom of the standings but in terms of points they are only 1 point behind Galatasaray and Copenhagen so their chances are still there to qualify for the knock out phase even though it is very heavy.

Manchester United undoing came after Rashford got a red card or, when Manchester United only played with 10 players then Copenhagen managed to turn things around. Because after all, Manchester United managed to lead with a score of 2-0 before the red card. Even worse, Manchester United failed to maintain the victory that had been obtained previously with a score of 2-0, until finally Manchester United had to accept defeat in this important match. Because with Manchester United failure to beat Copenhagen in the match, then I personally believe that Manchester United no longer has a chance to qualify and will finish in fourth position. Because after all, playing against Bayern Munich and Galatasaray is clearly a difficult match, so I believe Manchester United has lost the chance to qualify.

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It didn't seem to be a problem for Real Madrid in last night's match against Braga without Jude Bellingham and they still won with a landslide score of 3-0. In that match, Ancelotti changed his formation to 4-3-3 and placed Vinicius, Rodrygo and Brahim Diaz as the axis of attack. As a result, the three players each scored a goal for Real Madrid's victory at home and at the same time secured a place to qualify for the round of 16.

I think Ancelotti must often have the courage to provide new strategies when the previous strategy was not optimal and also give Brahim Diaz the opportunity to play who could be the difference in this match. We know that since returning from Milan, Brahim Diaz has rarely had playing minutes at Real Madrid and even though he has been one of the key players for Milan in the last 2 seasons. With this one goal, Brahim Diaz proved that he deserves to be in the Real Madrid squad and that could open Ancelotti's eyes in the future so that he can give him the minutes he deserves.

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Quote from: boltz on November 09, 2023, 08:42:25 AM

It seems nothing can save United this season and now they are last place in their UCL group and with low chances to actually catch Europa League spot. This is also the worst season I do remember for United in the last 2 decades and it's a shame to see such a big club doing so bad.

Actually, with their current situation, it can still be done, it's just that this is very difficult because it is like a mission that must get out of the needle hole for Manchester United.
They still have 2 matches remaining and if in the end there is a miracle with they can win against Bayern in the last match and manage to avenge Galatasaray then indeed their chance is still there with Copenhagen and Galatasaray must lose at least 1 time but indeed if in the end they cannot win in the rest of their matches then indeed there is no chance.
Currently they are indeed at the bottom of the standings but in terms of points they are only 1 point behind Galatasaray and Copenhagen so their chances are still there to qualify for the knock out phase even though it is very heavy.

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Quote from: boltz on November 09, 2023, 08:42:25 AM

It seems nothing can save United this season and now they are last place in their UCL group and with low chances to actually catch Europa League spot. This is also the worst season I do remember for United in the last 2 decades and it's a shame to see such a big club doing so bad.

I must confess that Sociedad is playing the best football on 1st half from all the other teams and I won't be surprise to see them reaching a quarter final at least. Cool

Considering the opponents they're gonna face in the last two fixtures in the group stage, it's almost impossible for Manchester United to progress from the group. After losing yesterday's game which was third defeat in four games, United went bottom of the group A with just three points. They'll have to win their last two games which includes an away match at Galatasaray and a home game against group leaders Bayern Munich and hope for Copenhagen not win their last two matches to qualify, a result that's very unlikely to happen

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It seems nothing can save United this season and now they are last place in their UCL group and with low chances to actually catch Europa League spot. This is also the worst season I do remember for United in the last 2 decades and it's a shame to see such a big club doing so bad.

I must confess that Sociedad is playing the best football on 1st half from all the other teams and I won't be surprise to see them reaching a quarter final at least. Cool

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 09, 2023, 07:55:50 AM

I think Galatasaray and Copenhagen are both very lucky this season in the Champions League because they are in the same group as Manchester United while this team is not in good form at all and they easily take points against Ten Hag and his players.
Also, both teams Copenhagen and Galatasaray got a high chance to be in the next stage however I think considering the recent games we saw, Galatasaray got more chance than Copenhagen to be the second team.

Galatasaray has to be to most lucky because they are currently at more advantage to qualify than Copenhagen because they have better performance and strength when compared to Copenhagen in the champions league so far, the first time they met, Galatasaray won.

Manchester united just happened to be the source of gaining points to all the team in their group, yesterday I can say been carefree led to their loss because if after their two goals they got earlier they calmed the pressure and played with easy thy would have been able to defend their two goal to the end or probably get another goals but then the maintained the pressure and got a red card which cost them much, the defense line of Manchester continually keeps remaining poor and causing their fall.

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Quote from: MK-74 on November 09, 2023, 01:41:14 AM

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Galatasaray fought very well but couldn't win, we played well again, congratulations guys. Galatasaray will come 2nd from this group. I believe it.
Copenhagen-M.United is now 4-3, I hope it ends like this.

Galatasaray did a good work about not conceding a goal for like 80 minutes. But in the meantime they had a really good opportunity to score and get ahead. Because Bayern Munich weren't very willing to play like their real self. Galatasaray found important chances in the first half but no result. The second half was poorer for them in the attacking line.

If Icardi wasn't offside before Torreira's goal maybe we could have talked about a different result now. Kane scored 2 times very easily later on. The first goal was enough to weaken Galatasaray defense. To be honest I didn't expect Bakambu to make an impact after entering the match. Galatasaray had better play with all they have got against Manchester United next time.

We concede goals very easily. Both goals were scored very easily.
I agree about bakambu. He was bad in all the matches, but this game was the first time he played well.

Rashford will not play in the Galatasaray game. This is good news for us,, I think we will beat M.United.

I think Galatasaray and Copenhagen are both very lucky this season in the Champions League because they are in the same group as Manchester United while this team is not in good form at all and they easily take points against Ten Hag and his players.
Also, both teams Copenhagen and Galatasaray got a high chance to be in the next stage however I think considering the recent games we saw, Galatasaray got more chance than Copenhagen to be the second team.

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I understand why fans are calling for the manager's resignation or sacking but I don't think this is the game where should be booted out. It's not realistic to think they could keep on containing their opponent for the next 45 minutes with just 10 men. They almost did but that was still a lot of time.

Quote from: SeriouslyGiveaway on November 09, 2023, 06:59:26 AM

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But honestly, I want Man United to face such frustrating results because it could be a wake-up call for them.

As if they haven't had enough of that "wake up call" already hehe. They've been losing a lot in both local and international competitions so that's not what they really need at this point.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on November 09, 2023, 06:20:45 AM

I don't like Marcus Rashford personally but have you checked closey to see his approach? Marcus Rashford had no intentions of fouling that lad, all he was trynna do was protect the ball. The match officials understanding of the game is not too quality, for it it was he woulda know that wasn't intentional. Since he has given the red card can I change the fact? No! So ahead ahead they go, they must climb their own mountain.

They have enough room.for improvement in the league from upwards from eight position is not a big problem.

Napoli really failed to impress yet again, they allowed Union Berlin score a goal against them! Impressive! Shout out to Inter Milan they've done well this season but they should have scored more than one goal.

Marcus Rashford of Manchester United should be held solely responsible for the devastating defeats in Telia Parken yesterday. How will your team be leading 2 nil before 30 minutes of the game? Rashford's sole thought was to commit an extensive foul, which resulted in Rumsas Donatas sending him off the pitch. On the other hand, I blame Erik Ten Hag for his revolting defensive approach against Copenhagen after his team was down a man. The most important objective was to stop Copenhagen from scoring and stopping a possible equaliser but he was content if nothing happened.

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Everything you need to know about United:

UEFA Champions League 2023/24 - To Qualify From Group A - Manchester United

Yes 2.49

No 1.48

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/soccer/international-clubs/uefa-champions-league/uefa-champions-league-23-24-64c76d8a938a060001bca225

I have seen different opinions about the refereeing in the Copenhagen - United game, but personally it seems to me that the referee was wrong (or made controversial decisions) in both directions. In any case, it doesn’t matter because if clowning happens on a regular basis, then the problem is with the coach and not with “endless accidents.” In addition, if you look at the games where United won, it is obvious that a huge part of these victories are also pure coincidence.

The red card for Marcus Rashford is very serious and it's so unlucky for Rashford to have a foul and a red card like this. That foul can cause a serious injury on the Copenhagen player but Rashford did not try to make a foul. A yellow card can be enough in that situation but referee sometimes have to make decision without some thinking that what if it is a yellow card and what if it is a red card. They don't have time to think too much like we can spend hours or days to think and discuss about it. In an on going match, decisions must be made quickly and it gives chance for mistake, wrong decision.

The odds shows Manchester United chance is smaller after this defeat and maybe they will have to wait for a next season to go to a Round of 16 in Champions League.

Manchester United has eventually being into so many officiating dramas, not only in European competitions but also in the England competitions. Personally as a football lover, I do not know about any rules again. I mean, I am not confident to say about any firm rule. Things are much more flexible and referees make decisions that sames error-fill even with the assistance of VAR. Before now, the major thing to judge a red card is the intention of the foul. Everyone can attest that Rashy didn't intend to foul the player, he only wanted to guide his ball but then he was unfortunate.

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They don't have time to think too much like we can spend hours or days to think and discuss about it. In an on going match, decisions must be made quickly and it gives chance for mistake, wrong decision.

But this is the reason why we have VAR. But these days, referees will have enough time to make decisions and in the end still make blatant decisions.

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Quote from: SeriouslyGiveaway on November 09, 2023, 06:59:26 AM

Quote from: Oluwa-btc on November 09, 2023, 06:20:45 AM

I don't like Marcus Rashford personally but have you checked closey to see his approach? Marcus Rashford had no intentions of fouling that lad, all he was trynna do was protect the ball. The match officials understanding of the game is not too quality, for it it was he woulda know that wasn't intentional. Since he has given the red card can I change the fact? No! So ahead ahead they go, they must climb their own mountain.

- There might be a lot of debate about Rashford's red card, and loyal Man United fans could attribute their loss to that. They might be right, and perhaps Man United faced some bad luck. However, I believe the result was more due to their inconsistent and extremely fragile style of play.
- Even if there was no red card, I think the best-case scenario for Man United would have been a draw, or maybe even a win. But honestly, I want Man United to face such frustrating results because it could be a wake-up call for them.
- They are playing like weak teams, and Ten Hag keeps struggling with a pile of chaos, yet he hasn't managed to establish a clear playing style for Man United.

I dont know how you can make such a stupid red card on such an important level. Also a 10 man Manchester United should hold out Copenhagen any day of the week. I think everyone lost money on Man Utd and this Ten Hag needs to leave because his results are just killing Man Utd.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on November 09, 2023, 06:20:45 AM

I don't like Marcus Rashford personally but have you checked closey to see his approach? Marcus Rashford had no intentions of fouling that lad, all he was trynna do was protect the ball. The match officials understanding of the game is not too quality, for it it was he woulda know that wasn't intentional. Since he has given the red card can I change the fact? No! So ahead ahead they go, they must climb their own mountain.

- There might be a lot of debate about Rashford's red card, and loyal Man United fans could attribute their loss to that. They might be right, and perhaps Man United faced some bad luck. However, I believe the result was more due to their inconsistent and extremely fragile style of play.
- Even if there was no red card, I think the best-case scenario for Man United would have been a draw, or maybe even a win. But honestly, I want Man United to face such frustrating results because it could be a wake-up call for them.
- They are playing like weak teams, and Ten Hag keeps struggling with a pile of chaos, yet he hasn't managed to establish a clear playing style for Man United.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on November 09, 2023, 06:20:45 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on November 09, 2023, 05:44:24 AM

A red card is nothing compared to the serious injury that Rashford could have caused (whether intentionally or not) so I would say the punishment was fair.
What next season are you talking about? Grin

United are in 8th place in the Premier League and the problem is not the number of points, but the fact that their game is as poor as possible and I assess this 8th place as a deviation from a fair result upwards.

I don't like Marcus Rashford personally but have you checked closey to see his approach? Marcus Rashford had no intentions of fouling that lad, all he was trynna do was protect the ball. The match officials understanding of the game is not too quality, for it it was he woulda know that wasn't intentional. Since he has given the red card can I change the fact? No! So ahead ahead they go, they must climb their own mountain.

It does not matter. If he had intentionally committed such an act, he would have received a red + 5 game suspension. Thank God football rules protect the health of players and all potentially dangerous actions should be excluded. I think you've heard that tackles from behind are a violation even if the player was able to play the ball and did not hit the player from whom he took the ball? Think about why this is so now (as opposed to the old days).

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on November 09, 2023, 06:38:23 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on November 09, 2023, 05:09:29 AM

Everything you need to know about United:

UEFA Champions League 2023/24 - To Qualify From Group A - Manchester United

Yes 2.49

No 1.48

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/soccer/international-clubs/uefa-champions-league/uefa-champions-league-23-24-64c76d8a938a060001bca225

I have seen different opinions about the refereeing in the Copenhagen - United game, but personally it seems to me that the referee was wrong (or made controversial decisions) in both directions. In any case, it doesn’t matter because if clowning happens on a regular basis, then the problem is with the coach and not with “endless accidents.” In addition, if you look at the games where United won, it is obvious that a huge part of these victories are also pure coincidence.

Considering football Galatasaray played against Bayern Munich in both matches its not hard to guess Galatasaray will roast Manchester United once more. Although Galatasaray was very unlucky at this group stage which costs them a lot. I think they should have get at least 1 point against Bayern. So sad. But still, Bayern Munich already guarenteed group stage so Kopenhag may surprise us a lot too.

I thought Bayern Munich and Galatasaray would qualify for the Round of 16 from Group A. But at the moment Galatasaray is third in the table. The Copenhagen team has taken second place in the table after the victory against Manchester United. However, Galatasaray will play their last two games against Manchester United and Copenhagen. And Galatasaray has a chance to win both these matches if they perform well. I'd say Galatasaray are more likely to grab second place in the table now. However, it is not yet possible to say for sure whether Galatasaray can qualify for the knockout round.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on November 09, 2023, 06:38:23 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on November 09, 2023, 05:09:29 AM

Everything you need to know about United:

UEFA Champions League 2023/24 - To Qualify From Group A - Manchester United

Yes 2.49

No 1.48

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/soccer/international-clubs/uefa-champions-league/uefa-champions-league-23-24-64c76d8a938a060001bca225

I have seen different opinions about the refereeing in the Copenhagen - United game, but personally it seems to me that the referee was wrong (or made controversial decisions) in both directions. In any case, it doesn’t matter because if clowning happens on a regular basis, then the problem is with the coach and not with “endless accidents.” In addition, if you look at the games where United won, it is obvious that a huge part of these victories are also pure coincidence.

Considering football Galatasaray played against Bayern Munich in both matches its not hard to guess Galatasaray will roast Manchester United once more. Although Galatasaray was very unlucky at this group stage which costs them a lot. I think they should have get at least 1 point against Bayern. So sad. But still, Bayern Munich already guarenteed group stage so Kopenhag may surprise us a lot too.

Bayern Munich is undoubtedly the strongest team in the group A of the UEFA Champions League competition this campaign and considering how well Galatasaray have performed against them in their last two meetings, one can easily say that the the Turkish club is gonna beat Manchester United when they play in the next game on 29th of this month.
Having been able to beat Manchester United at the Old Trafford when they played the first leg of their group fixtures, I think repeating it again at home is more possible than losing to Manchester United but I still think the Old Trafford club can still pull a surprise and win that game against all odds

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 09, 2023, 05:09:29 AM

Everything you need to know about United:

UEFA Champions League 2023/24 - To Qualify From Group A - Manchester United

Yes 2.49

No 1.48

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/soccer/international-clubs/uefa-champions-league/uefa-champions-league-23-24-64c76d8a938a060001bca225

I have seen different opinions about the refereeing in the Copenhagen - United game, but personally it seems to me that the referee was wrong (or made controversial decisions) in both directions. In any case, it doesn’t matter because if clowning happens on a regular basis, then the problem is with the coach and not with “endless accidents.” In addition, if you look at the games where United won, it is obvious that a huge part of these victories are also pure coincidence.

Considering football Galatasaray played against Bayern Munich in both matches its not hard to guess Galatasaray will roast Manchester United once more. Although Galatasaray was very unlucky at this group stage which costs them a lot. I think they should have get at least 1 point against Bayern. So sad. But still, Bayern Munich already guarenteed group stage so Kopenhag may surprise us a lot too.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 09, 2023, 05:44:24 AM

A red card is nothing compared to the serious injury that Rashford could have caused (whether intentionally or not) so I would say the punishment was fair.
What next season are you talking about? Grin

United are in 8th place in the Premier League and the problem is not the number of points, but the fact that their game is as poor as possible and I assess this 8th place as a deviation from a fair result upwards.

I don't like Marcus Rashford personally but have you checked closey to see his approach? Marcus Rashford had no intentions of fouling that lad, all he was trynna do was protect the ball. The match officials understanding of the game is not too quality, for it it was he woulda know that wasn't intentional. Since he has given the red card can I change the fact? No! So ahead ahead they go, they must climb their own mountain.

They have enough room.for improvement in the league from upwards from eight position is not a big problem.

Napoli really failed to impress yet again, they allowed Union Berlin score a goal against them! Impressive! Shout out to Inter Milan they've done well this season but they should have scored more than one goal.

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