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November 09, 2023, 02:36:34 PM
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Didnt expect that Real Sociedad would pass the group so easily. They destroyed everyone in their group. Bayern Munich,Man City and Leipzig easily passed their groups that werent that hard at all. Group F anything can happen until the very end. I think we wont know anything in this group until last round.
Barcelona and Porto are also almost certain of progressing to the next round, so we won't ignore them. Arsenal, who leads group B, has also been very convincing to qualify by collecting 9 points from 4 matches. Bapi may be right that the teams in groups E, F and H can still change considering that the points between these teams do not have a big difference. They still have a chance to qualify even though the favorites can be determined, but everything can change and is never the same as we think.

Bayern Munich, Manchester City, Sociedad, Leipzig, Real Madrid, Inter, Napoli and Arsenal seem safe to qualify for the round of 16. They can rotate players in the next match even though none of them need to underestimate their opponents in the remaining two matches. I'm happy that Real Madrid did very well even though they had difficulties in the first two games.
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November 09, 2023, 02:27:31 PM
In this match, it can be seen that AC Milan's mentality is quite good, since before the match the AC Milan team was required to win the match in order to have a chance of qualifying from the group and even though they were 1 goal behind at the start of the first half, the AC Milan players were able to respond quickly with equalized and tried to dominate the game so they managed to turn things around to 2-1 for AC Milan's victory.
With this result, AC Milan's chances of qualifying from the group phase are wide open.
The mentality of the AC Milan players looks much better than that of the PSG players and they have a good defense even though the PSG players played quite openly and dominated the match. PSG had quite difficulty penetrating AC Milan's defense because they played a defensive style and it was proven how AC Milan's defense blocked every attack made by PSG. Final finishing may be a big problem for PSG because they are not able to finish every opportunity that exists.

In the other group F match, Dortmund managed to beat Newcastle with a score of 2-0, which means that the possibility of Dortmund being able to qualify for the round of 16 is very wide open, now Dortmund is at the top of the group F standings with 7 points, PSG 6 points, AC MIlan 5 points and Newcastle 4 points, this is really a pretty fierce group, up to now these four teams still have a chance to advance to the round of 16.
Group F will have much tighter competition to qualify for the next round because after the fourth match the difference in points between the three teams is very close. Dortmund leads the standings with seven points, PSG is second with six points and AC Milan managed to collect five points after beating PSG. The results of the match in the fourth match provide an opportunity for AC Milan to qualify for the next round, but it depends on how they face the remaining matches in the future.
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November 09, 2023, 02:15:47 PM
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Congratulations to Copenhagen, they could make it to the Europa League, they deserve it.
Rashford didn't do it on purpose and it just happened even though it ultimately cost him and his team. Manchester United's game plan was broken because they lost one player, obviously that had changed things for the worse for them even though Manchester United had led 2-3 before Copenhagen's 2 additional goals ended Manchester United's hopes of winning.

Copenhagen was lucky to win this match against Manchester United, but they cannot yet guarantee that they will qualify for the Europa League or advance to the next round of the Champions League. They have two matches to play in the group stage, that will determine everything.

Really the final result between Man Utd vs Copenhagen was beyond of my expectations, I didn't expect that in Group A, Man Utd is currently in the bottom position, Man Utd has so far received 3 defeats and 1 win, there is little hope that Man Utd can qualify from the qualifying rounds.

That's right, because a red card hit Rashford, Man Utd's playing pattern was messed up,  Copenhagen even scored 2 goals in the first half, from what I saw there were a lot of fans who were disappointed with the results that Man Utd got, shouting to replace Ten Hag too the louder it sounds from fans.

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November 09, 2023, 02:08:34 PM
  • Bayern Munich
  • Inter Milan
  • Leipzig
  • Manchester City
  • Real Madrid
  • Real Sociedad
Bayern, Inter Milan, Manchester City, Real Madrid all look to belong in the group of first qualifiers as they are regular names, Leipzig did well to not disappoint from their group and Real Soceidad too. Manchester United will have a hard time qualifying from their group to join Bayern, Arsenal look sure to qualify, Difficult to choose between Lens and PSV, the team to join them. Napoli are very unconvincing to join Real Madrid, they may not qualify even tough they have seven points already. Atletico Madrid have to qualify, they are playing very good football at the moment and need to qualify to add more entertainment to the competition. In Group F, It is still difficult to predict which team between Dortmund, PSG, Milan and Newcastle will qualify. Barcelona also need to join up for more entertainment.

Didnt expect that Real Sociedad would pass the group so easily. They destroyed everyone in their group. Bayern Munich,Man City and Leipzig easily passed their groups that werent that hard at all. Group F anything can happen until the very end. I think we wont know anything in this group until last round.
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November 09, 2023, 02:03:28 PM
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I don't think any player would do such thing on purpose. However I guess the rules are saying that it is a red card anyway no matter it is intentional or not. I don't think it was a bad decision by the referee as a result. Rashford could have injured Jelert seriously there as the way he did that was really dangerous.

If Rashford stepped on Jelert's foot instead of his ankle then I guess the colour of the card would have been yellow. Rashford's morale was already not good before and now I can't imagine how he is.
Of course, it was a decent red card for Rashford, but it has certainly damaged his image in the Champions League. Rashford is one of the players who rarely gets cards in Champions League matches, he only has 3 yellow cards in the last 5 seasons in the Champions League and this is his only red card since the 2017-2018 season.

Intentional or not, serious violations must be punished with severe penalties. But unfortunately, it has damaged Manchester United's chances in the Champions League this season. No one thought Manchester United would lose to Copenhagen, but it became a reality after they only played with 10 players.
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November 09, 2023, 02:03:09 PM

Losing the game against Copenhagen was not good at all but still, Copenhagen was lucky in this game because the mistake of the referee in this game had a huge effect on the game.
Manchester United scored two goals and the game was 2-0, while people were thinking Manchester United was going to win this match, Marcus Rashford got a red card and it was a mistake by the referee because I think he didn't do that on purpose.



The effect of the red card flashed on Marcus Rashford spoiled the game, else Manchester United should have scored four goals in that match. I was the perfect match for Manchester United to spark in form but things don't always go as planned.
That was reckless stamping on that player, but it wasn't intentional. Every game lost should be a lesson for there is no joy without pain.

Manchester United will definitely be without Marcus Rashford and I kinda love it. He has barely played a good game for Manchester United. He should go focus on scoring in the Premier League.
Congratulations to Copenhagen, they could make it to the Europa League, they deserve it.
Manchester United have again recorded a bad outing today in this match despite all the hype that their fans created around the match making it look as if it was going to be a walkover for the club knowing how desperate they needed the winnings but then just as OLuwa BTC said, football games are unpredictable and at that, we have to accept that fact and move on even though the outcome of the match today was not what was expected.
Also for the fact that FC Copenhagen was a smaller club compared to Manchester United, it still did go well for Manchester United until they were unable to equalize the last goal before the match end making the opponent to walk away with the winning goal.
It would have been a nightmare night for Copenhagen if Rashford had not received a red card, but Manchester United, whose entire game order was disrupted after Rashford's red card, lost at the end of the match. Since they lost 4-3, their chances of getting out of the group have become even more difficult because they will play a difficult match like Bayern Munich. If we predict that they will lose against Bayern, the Galatasaray match will be of critical importance.
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November 09, 2023, 02:00:46 PM
Losing the game against Copenhagen was not good at all but still, Copenhagen was lucky in this game because the mistake of the referee in this game had a huge effect on the game.
Manchester United scored two goals and the game was 2-0, while people were thinking Manchester United was going to win this match, Marcus Rashford got a red card and it was a mistake by the referee because I think he didn't do that on purpose.



I don't think any player would do such thing on purpose. However I guess the rules are saying that it is a red card anyway no matter it is intentional or not. I don't think it was a bad decision by the referee as a result. Rashford could have injured Jelert seriously there as the way he did that was really dangerous.

If Rashford stepped on Jelert's foot instead of his ankle then I guess the colour of the card would have been yellow. Rashford's morale was already not good before and now I can't imagine how he is.

That's what the referee did, he sticked to the rules and I agree that this red card seems to be a hard decision, but if you change the roles of Rashford and the Copenhagen player, I am sure that every Manchester United player and fan would have said that this was a red card if the Copenhagen player hit Rashford in the same way. It wasn't his intention I believe, but what choice does the referee really have? The sanction in the form of a red card is more a warning for the future than a punishment for the moment. Keep your eyes open before you go all out and step onto the ankle joint of another player. I don't want to think about what would be if that ankle broke.
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November 09, 2023, 01:55:20 PM
Losing the game against Copenhagen was not good at all but still, Copenhagen was lucky in this game because the mistake of the referee in this game had a huge effect on the game.
Manchester United scored two goals and the game was 2-0, while people were thinking Manchester United was going to win this match, Marcus Rashford got a red card and it was a mistake by the referee because I think he didn't do that on purpose.



I don't think any player would do such thing on purpose. However I guess the rules are saying that it is a red card anyway no matter it is intentional or not. I don't think it was a bad decision by the referee as a result. Rashford could have injured Jelert seriously there as the way he did that was really dangerous.

If Rashford stepped on Jelert's foot instead of his ankle then I guess the colour of the card would have been yellow. Rashford's morale was already not good before and now I can't imagine how he is.
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November 09, 2023, 01:49:31 PM

Losing the game against Copenhagen was not good at all but still, Copenhagen was lucky in this game because the mistake of the referee in this game had a huge effect on the game.
Manchester United scored two goals and the game was 2-0, while people were thinking Manchester United was going to win this match, Marcus Rashford got a red card and it was a mistake by the referee because I think he didn't do that on purpose.



The effect of the red card flashed on Marcus Rashford spoiled the game, else Manchester United should have scored four goals in that match. I was the perfect match for Manchester United to spark in form but things don't always go as planned.
That was reckless stamping on that player, but it wasn't intentional. Every game lost should be a lesson for there is no joy without pain.

Manchester United will definitely be without Marcus Rashford and I kinda love it. He has barely played a good game for Manchester United. He should go focus on scoring in the Premier League.
Congratulations to Copenhagen, they could make it to the Europa League, they deserve it.
Manchester United have again recorded a bad outing today in this match despite all the hype that their fans created around the match making it look as if it was going to be a walkover for the club knowing how desperate they needed the winnings but then just as OLuwa BTC said, football games are unpredictable and at that, we have to accept that fact and move on even though the outcome of the match today was not what was expected.
Also for the fact that FC Copenhagen was a smaller club compared to Manchester United, it still did go well for Manchester United until they were unable to equalize the last goal before the match end making the opponent to walk away with the winning goal.
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November 09, 2023, 01:45:27 PM
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The effect of the red card flashed on Marcus Rashford spoiled the game, else Manchester United should have scored four goals in that match. I was the perfect match for Manchester United to spark in form but things don't always go as planned.
That was reckless stamping on that player, bit it wasn't intentional. Every game lost should be a lesson for there is no joy without pain.

Manchester United will definitely be without Marcus Rashford and I kinda love it. He has barely played a good game for Manchester United. He should go focus on scoring in the Premier League.
Congratulations to Copenhagen, they could make it to the Europa League, they deserve it.
Rashford didn't do it on purpose and it just happened even though it ultimately cost him and his team. Manchester United's game plan was broken because they lost one player, obviously that had changed things for the worse for them even though Manchester United had led 2-3 before Copenhagen's 2 additional goals ended Manchester United's hopes of winning.

Copenhagen was lucky to win this match against Manchester United, but they cannot yet guarantee that they will qualify for the Europa League or advance to the next round of the Champions League. They have two matches to play in the group stage, that will determine everything.
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November 09, 2023, 01:34:06 PM
  • Bayern Munich
  • Inter Milan
  • Leipzig
  • Manchester City
  • Real Madrid
  • Real Sociedad
Bayern, Inter Milan, Manchester City, Real Madrid all look to belong in the group of first qualifiers as they are regular names, Leipzig did well to not disappoint from their group and Real Soceidad too. Manchester United will have a hard time qualifying from their group to join Bayern, Arsenal look sure to qualify, Difficult to choose between Lens and PSV, the team to join them. Napoli are very unconvincing to join Real Madrid, they may not qualify even tough they have seven points already. Atletico Madrid have to qualify, they are playing very good football at the moment and need to qualify to add more entertainment to the competition. In Group F, It is still difficult to predict which team between Dortmund, PSG, Milan and Newcastle will qualify. Barcelona also need to join up for more entertainment.
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November 09, 2023, 01:24:06 PM
Yesterday I had another losing bet, this time with Man. United, and I don't think I was the only one

I had odds of 1.83, I thought the team would react against Copenhagen to position themselves better in the group and at least secure a second place with 6 points
But the team is really unlucky, even with a red card I thought that at least they could hold a draw. Take 4 goals of Copenhagen is not normal
It seems that no matter how much they change, the team isn't reacting, the injured Casemiro is a bad thing, Antony was hired to score goals, he's not managing to show anything so far...

I'll avoid any bet with Man United hehe, I just lost 3 bets in a row in less than a week
Many are trapped like you, indeed before the game begins Man United is very favorite to win especially this match is important for Man United to keep hope in order to remain able to qualify for the next stage. In addition, many of which convince this fight will be won by Man United because only Copenhagen can be said to be weak than Galatasay and Bayern Munich. So this fight is so important for Man United to steal three points so it's no wonder that many bet on Man United. But in the end of the end too. Cheesy

Honestly I am the biggest regret in my life is when betting on Man United three weeks in a row only relies on logic. It turns out that for Man United's predictions can not rely on logic, indeed they have not been stable so avoid betting on Man United. Cheesy
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November 09, 2023, 01:13:25 PM

Losing the game against Copenhagen was not good at all but still, Copenhagen was lucky in this game because the mistake of the referee in this game had a huge effect on the game.
Manchester United scored two goals and the game was 2-0, while people were thinking Manchester United was going to win this match, Marcus Rashford got a red card and it was a mistake by the referee because I think he didn't do that on purpose.



The effect of the red card flashed on Marcus Rashford spoiled the game, else Manchester United should have scored four goals in that match. I was the perfect match for Manchester United to spark in form but things don't always go as planned.
That was reckless stamping on that player, bit it wasn't intentional. Every game lost should be a lesson for there is no joy without pain.

Manchester United will definitely be without Marcus Rashford and I kinda love it. He has barely played a good game for Manchester United. He should go focus on scoring in the Premier League.
Congratulations to Copenhagen, they could make it to the Europa League, they deserve it.
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November 09, 2023, 01:07:25 PM
Yesterday I had another losing bet, this time with Man. United, and I don't think I was the only one

I had odds of 1.83, I thought the team would react against Copenhagen to position themselves better in the group and at least secure a second place with 6 points
But the team is really unlucky, even with a red card I thought that at least they could hold a draw. Take 4 goals of Copenhagen is not normal
It seems that no matter how much they change, the team isn't reacting, the injured Casemiro is a bad thing, Antony was hired to score goals, he's not managing to show anything so far...

I'll avoid any bet with Man United hehe, I just lost 3 bets in a row in less than a week



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November 09, 2023, 01:06:02 PM
Finally after matchday 4 of 6 matched have 6 teams qualified to 16th round, here teams will not important yet with two matches left in Champion League despite loss or not automatically they have one place on knock out round.

  • Bayern Munich
  • Inter Milan
  • Leipzig
  • Manchester City
  • Real Madrid
  • Real Sociedad

Bayern Munich won 4 matches in group stage round and automatically their points can't catch up by Copenhagen, Galatasaray and Manchester United. Real Sociedad and Inter Milan in Group have the same 10 points and third standings have gap 7 points can't raise Inter or Sociedad points to lead 16th round.

Madrid make fantastic achievement this season won all group stage matches, now waiting left two matches and as possible take three points to lead group C standings position. Leipzig and Man City in the same group just waiting who will be the first and second standings finish, actually have advantage when first position depend the runner up teams will face on knock out round.

Next matchday who will allow the six teams above will qualified to knock out round?

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November 09, 2023, 01:05:44 PM
Losing the game against Copenhagen was not good at all but still, Copenhagen was lucky in this game because the mistake of the referee in this game had a huge effect on the game.
Manchester United scored two goals and the game was 2-0, while people were thinking Manchester United was going to win this match, Marcus Rashford got a red card and it was a mistake by the referee because I think he didn't do that on purpose.
It doesn't matter to be intentional or not but since it was considered as violent move then the referee sent him off. I saw it from different angles and I don't consider the decision as wrong since people can defend it. For others, it might be just a yellow card but come on Manchester United is sick right now. I know playing with 1 missing player is hard but getting 4 goals after you were leading with 2 goals to 0 just prove how weak Manchester United is right now. The funny part is that they still have a chance to qualify since the difference between them and Copenhagen & Galatasaray is just 1 point. Their match vs Galatasaray will be crucial since I doubt they will defeat Bayern Munich.

Yes indeed, no matter what Rashford intention was, because it would have been better to get a card at that moment if we compare it to having something bad happen first and then getting a card . So ya, such decisions i think are not entirely the referee fault either because anyway, the referee also confirmed it through VAR and thus, the referee can decide a more appropriate decision for the incident that occurred . But indeed, if for example Manchester Unted continue to play with 11 players, ofcourse Manchester United will be able to win in this match . If Manchester United win then obviously, the chance for Manchester United to finish as runner up can still be realized . But unfortunately, in this match Manchester United failed to win and only the remaining matches against Galatasaray and also against Bayern Munich and of course, playing them makes Manchester United seem to lose the chance to win and maybe will remain in fourth position until the end.
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November 09, 2023, 12:57:22 PM
braga was not a serious challenge for real Madrid yesterday it was an easy one, 27 minutes, and there is already a record of one goal scored by B. Diaz and assisted by Rodrygo the game ended 3:0 and the formation was an exceptional one and real Madrid had 7 shots on target and this show real Madrid's readiness to win yesterday game. no much talk everyone knew that Madrid would win, and loved the way Braga played look at does passes before the penalty which was saved by Andriy Lunin if not for that safety it would have ended 3: 1 and after that first goal madrid scored more goals were coming.

as a coach, you have to be full of strategies to achieve your goal if not for that you will find it more difficult to win more games and Ancelotti is known for his wisdom in terms of strategy.  and Brahim Diaz did play well to even score the first goal is a good one. good play from the Madrids game yesterday.

Yes Real Madrid didn't have any significant difficulties in this match, in fact there were lots of opportunities in the match for Real Madrid with their fast attacks but they only managed to score 3 goals. And Ancelotti's strategy can be said to be very good, he trusts young players, he needs to give young players more playing time, and Lunin did his job well, he saved at least 2 goals.

Another thing that has made Ancelotti successful so far at Real Madrid, Ancelotti prioritizes unity in the team, that is why the players are happy with him. This is what drives players to fight for each other and for the team.
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November 09, 2023, 12:50:19 PM
I understand why fans are calling for the manager's resignation or sacking but I don't think this is the game where should be booted out. It's not realistic to think they could keep on containing their opponent for the next 45 minutes with just 10 men. They almost did but that was still a lot of time.

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But honestly, I want Man United to face such frustrating results because it could be a wake-up call for them.
As if they haven't had enough of that "wake up call" already hehe. They've been losing a lot in both local and international competitions so that's not what they really need at this point.
I think they have experienced frustration because they will not get a chance in these two prestigious leagues, for UCL themselves they are really conquered and now no longer have the opportunity to continue at UCL. It's quite difficult to play only ten players, and the opposing team takes advantage of the opportunity well.

Ten Hag really has to discipline the players again so as not to get worse, in your opinion whether Manchester United can really rise again before or whether they really will catch up like Chelsea who experienced continuously decreased?
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November 09, 2023, 12:46:50 PM
Let's be honest, we cannot say that Copenhagen is a better team compared to Manchester United. That is just not true. Manchester United is a far better team when compared to teams like Copenhagen. I do not want to offend anyone, but I think saying that Copenhagen is not a weak team is just a coping mechanism for the Manchester United fans. There was no reason for Manchester United to lose this match. There was also no reason for Manchester United to defend so poorly in this match. I think the authority of Manchester United really needs to sit down and have a talk about the coach.
I agree with you. Man United's problem is only with the coach, because materially Man United's players are superior to Copenhagen's but in reality Man United lost and had low cards and many players were injured is not a reason for Erik Tag Hag to complain, he is coaching a big team, he should be able to make players have high fighting spirit.

In my opinion, this defeat is certainly a bad trip for Man United and the possibility of qualifying for the last 16 is very small. Galatasaray has quality players like Icardi or Kahlanoglu. I would give Man United a maximum chance of 20%, and maybe 40% to advance to the Europa League and 40% to finish last in the UCL league.
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November 09, 2023, 12:35:05 PM
Let's be honest, we cannot say that Copenhagen is a better team compared to Manchester United. That is just not true. Manchester United is a far better team when compared to teams like Copenhagen. I do not want to offend anyone, but I think saying that Copenhagen is not a weak team is just a coping mechanism for the Manchester United fans. There was no reason for Manchester United to lose this match. There was also no reason for Manchester United to defend so poorly in this match. I think the authority of Manchester United really needs to sit down and have a talk about the coach.
Though Copenhagen isn't stronger than Manchester united but for me aside the red card of Marcus Rashford for Manchester united, Copenhagen played better than Manchester united to be realistic. Okay how about when Copenhagen visited Manchester united at old trafford, Manchester united found it difficult in that match and they scored just a lone goal to show you how strong and serious the Copenhagen side is and at the same time this is also a club that is good in their league at Denmark.


Man United is considered much better than Copenhagen, judging from squad depth and other factors. However, United failed to maximize their potential and failed to make good use of opportunities. As a result, the situation becomes more complicated, coaches and players are under greater pressure, and I think the sharp criticism they are getting now is a very natural thing.

Even though they still have a chance to qualify, The Reds Devils chances are smaller after the defeat to Copenhagen. United performance declined drastically from match to match, and Ten Hag was considered responsible for this. The red card that Marcus Rashford received shows the frustration he is experiencing. Each team will try their best to qualify, and Copenhagen succeeded in exploiting United vulnerability. One defeat or draw against Galatasaray will ensure The Reds Devils is eliminated from the Champions League, and I think Ten Hag will be fired.
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