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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 09, 2023, 10:57:01 AM

Losing the game against Copenhagen was not good at all but still, Copenhagen was lucky in this game because the mistake of the referee in this game had a huge effect on the game.
Manchester United scored two goals and the game was 2-0, while people were thinking Manchester United was going to win this match, Marcus Rashford got a red card and it was a mistake by the referee because I think he didn't do that on purpose.

It doesn't matter to be intentional or not but since it was considered as violent move then the referee sent him off. I saw it from different angles and I don't consider the decision as wrong since people can defend it. For others, it might be just a yellow card but come on Manchester United is sick right now. I know playing with 1 missing player is hard but getting 4 goals after you were leading with 2 goals to 0 just prove how weak Manchester United is right now. The funny part is that they still have a chance to qualify since the difference between them and Copenhagen & Galatasaray is just 1 point. Their match vs Galatasaray will be crucial since I doubt they will defeat Bayern Munich.

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Manchester United is becoming a joke team this season in everywhere they are playing,in all competitions,both in the Champions League and the Premier League.Honestly I still cannot understand how a red card can impact the game that much for them to concede 4 goals,concede 4 goals from a team who is weaker and who plays in a much weaker competition than the Premier League.

If they don't sack Ten Haag which I think is the root cause of all the bad things happening to Manchester United then they should be prepared for much worse than what they have already suffered.

Since Manchester United hasn't advanced past the group stage of the Champions League in the last two seasons, Hojlund is a capable striker, but I don't think the team is ready for him. When he scored the game's first goal in three minutes and its second goal in twenty-eight, I kept in mind that Manchester United had already won, but Rashford's red card ended up ruining the entire match. I'm not sure why Ten Hag's started him in the match. I don't like the way he performed this season. Because of their recent bad play, people will hardly think that Manchester United would win a match against any team. However, I believe if Casemiro and Martinez were available, I think they could be able to defend the lead when they win.

I don't think Harry Maguire will change. I understand that every player makes mistakes, but his own is too much. One player was sent off and still went on to caused a penalty. They must sack Ten Hag's to improve Manchester United's performance. Since Ten Hag's arrival, the team has hardly won a game. However, if it weren't for the red card, the team performed well yesterday. I don't think Rashford wants Manchester to perform well this season, so I can only blame Ten Hag's and Rashford responsible for this defeat.

Even with a red card, they should not be losing to a team like Copenhagen. The idea that they are a "tough team" is not acceptable for United, why? Because Copenhagen is a team that is worth 66 million euro! Yes you heard it right 66!! And whereas what United spent just on Antony alone is 100 million, and the whole team is worth nearly 900 million as a whole. I am sorry, but when two teams that are this wildly different from each other and have this much financial difference, then the one that is rich should win.

It is not really even about just names at this point, just take team A that is worth 877 million and spent, over 200 million this summer (and over 200 million last summer) versus a team that is worth 66 million Team B, when these team A vs B plays, you would expect team A to win that game. If they ended up losing, just because of one red card, that is not acceptable and someone has to be responsible. And certainly not manager alone, the whole ownership is responsible.

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Quote from: rendravolt on November 09, 2023, 03:54:30 AM

Another multibet win in last night's match and of the 6 bets I placed, only the Napoli vs Union Berlin match had a half win. Actually, I made this multibet bet when Union Berlin equalized and I thought it was likely that this would be a draw or even be the first win for Union Berlin. Without Victor Osimhen, it was clear that Napoli were not very sharp in attack and even though they had other opportunities, it didn't seem like they could add another advantage to them. On the other hand, Union Berlin was still able to keep up with Napoli's game even though they lost badly in ball possession.

Apart from that, for Inter with the only goal from the penalty spot scored by Lautaro Martinez and also Bayern Munich with a brace scored by Harry Kane, I am also happy that they got a late win in this match and at the same time made both of them qualify for the next round.

Props to you for that accumulation and win there. Do well to increase your odds a lil bit higher, I think you good at it and would win.
I want to comment on Inter Milan, for them to struggle with Salzburg, the during the weekend game they would do same?? What do you think? I feel like Inter Milan won't be scoring much in that game and I won't be anything more than three goals.

Bayern Munich also struggled during the first half against Galatasaray. Would one to go with half time goals. Bayern Munich won't be scoring anything more than one goal in the first half.
Harry Kane buzzing and he won't stop scoring he could take his goal tally to 30+ if he makes good use of his chances very well. That I know he does very well.

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Quote from: rendravolt on November 09, 2023, 09:09:59 AM

It didn't seem to be a problem for Real Madrid in last night's match against Braga without Jude Bellingham and they still won with a landslide score of 3-0. In that match, Ancelotti changed his formation to 4-3-3 and placed Vinicius, Rodrygo and Brahim Diaz as the axis of attack. As a result, the three players each scored a goal for Real Madrid's victory at home and at the same time secured a place to qualify for the round of 16.

I think Ancelotti must often have the courage to provide new strategies when the previous strategy was not optimal and also give Brahim Diaz the opportunity to play who could be the difference in this match. We know that since returning from Milan, Brahim Diaz has rarely had playing minutes at Real Madrid and even though he has been one of the key players for Milan in the last 2 seasons. With this one goal, Brahim Diaz proved that he deserves to be in the Real Madrid squad and that could open Ancelotti's eyes in the future so that he can give him the minutes he deserves.

braga was not a serious challenge for real Madrid yesterday it was an easy one, 27 minutes, and there is already a record of one goal scored by B. Diaz and assisted by Rodrygo the game ended 3:0 and the formation was an exceptional one and real Madrid had 7 shots on target and this show real Madrid's readiness to win yesterday game. no much talk everyone knew that Madrid would win, and loved the way Braga played look at does passes before the penalty which was saved by Andriy Lunin if not for that safety it would have ended 3: 1 and after that first goal madrid scored more goals were coming.

as a coach, you have to be full of strategies to achieve your goal if not for that you will find it more difficult to win more games and Ancelotti is known for his wisdom in terms of strategy. and Brahim Diaz did play well to even score the first goal is a good one. good play from the Madrids game yesterday.

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Quote from: imamusma on November 09, 2023, 11:11:23 AM

A red card that will bring good luck to the Manchester United squad to escape from a tight hole, who knows, when Ten Hag loses Rahsfoord in his starting XI, United will become more stable and achieve victory, that's a very interesting thing. In my opinion, the luckiest was Bayern Munchen in Group A, because they did not face significant resistance when United appeared inconsistent, and this indirectly brought blessings to Galatasaray and Copenhagen.

Two matches remain, one away and one home, but United best chance is in the match against Galatasaray. I don't see The Red Devils being able to beat Munchen in the final match of the group stage. But that doesn't mean it's impossible to happen. Overall, three clubs in Group A will compete for a place in the last 16, because it is unlikely that Munchen will fail.

Well it's very possible, if Copenhagen could come back to win Manchester United after they were 0-2 ahead in the 1st half then there's a possibility that Rashford's red card could be a blessing in disguise and maybe if Erik Ten Hag play Mason Mount or Pellistri in place of Rashford and play Regullion in his rightful position as well as starting Amrabat then maybe they could win Galatasaray and steal a point against Bayern Munich but it's going to be very tough cause they need to work harder and avoiding any of their key players from getting injured before then.

The last time they faced Bayern Munich it was very tough for them though they tried to score about 3 goals but Bayern dominated the game mostly, however Bayern is in a very good form currently and United might not be opportune to get same number of goals against them like they did the previous time, however beating Galatasaray might not be a very tough challenge but they have to be very careful so as not to end up like their last meeting.

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Quote from: Marvell1 on November 09, 2023, 10:53:13 AM

Let's be honest, we cannot say that Copenhagen is a better team compared to Manchester United. That is just not true. Manchester United is a far better team when compared to teams like Copenhagen. I do not want to offend anyone, but I think saying that Copenhagen is not a weak team is just a coping mechanism for the Manchester United fans. There was no reason for Manchester United to lose this match. There was also no reason for Manchester United to defend so poorly in this match. I think the authority of Manchester United really needs to sit down and have a talk about the coach.

Though Copenhagen isn't stronger than Manchester united but for me aside the red card of Marcus Rashford for Manchester united, Copenhagen played better than Manchester united to be realistic. Okay how about when Copenhagen visited Manchester united at old trafford, Manchester united found it difficult in that match and they scored just a lone goal to show you how strong and serious the Copenhagen side is and at the same time this is also a club that is good in their league at Denmark.

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Actually, with their current situation, it can still be done, it's just that this is very difficult because it is like a mission that must get out of the needle hole for Manchester United.
They still have 2 matches remaining and if in the end there is a miracle with they can win against Bayern in the last match and manage to avenge Galatasaray then indeed their chance is still there with Copenhagen and Galatasaray must lose at least 1 time but indeed if in the end they cannot win in the rest of their matches then indeed there is no chance.
Currently they are indeed at the bottom of the standings but in terms of points they are only 1 point behind Galatasaray and Copenhagen so their chances are still there to qualify for the knock out phase even though it is very heavy.

There is still a chance for Manchester United to qualify for the last 16, they only need to fully secure the remaining 2 matches in the future, so the maximum points they can achieve is 9 points. But this is very difficult to make happen, because we know their next opponents will be Galatasaray and Bayern Munchen. Both clubs have beaten United in the first leg, so it is difficult to believe United can collect maximum points in these two matches.

Whatever the scenario, United fate really depends on the results of the Galatasaray and Copenhagen matches, while it is certain that Munchen will not encounter any difficulties. I think the most realistic opportunity now for Ten Hag is to bring his squad to finish in third place, and continue their journey in the Europa League, that is if they are able to compete there.

Now it depends on Manchester United's own performance actually whether they can do it or not with their current conditions and losing Rashford for future matches obviously this will make it a little complicated for them.
For Galatasaray I still feel that they can still compete only for Bayern this is difficult because however expect 3 points from Bayernd with their current condition and the history of the Champions League where Bayern have never lost in the group phase over the past few seasons this makes considerable doubt.
But whatever the result they still have to try to perform better because position 2 and 3 they can still get with the current points.

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Inter Real and Bayern are already qualified for the final phase of the Champions.

Whatever they will do in the next 2 games they will be already in, is impressive.

Yes, it was certain that these cubs would clear their points and qualify for the round of 16. I have said it before on this thread, but few people disagreed that now guys can see that my predictions have been proved right. What do you guys think about which talent in the Qlify rounds will be wiped out until the quarter-final semifinals? Express your opinion. Anyway, it was very sad to see Manchester United, but it is their fault that they did not change the coach despite repeatedly failing. I say that the root of all the problems is Ten Hag. If Manchester United needs to improve their team, I think they should consider changing their coach.

The victory they achieved against Salzburg in match 4 ensured taking 1 ticket to go to the last 16 with Bayern Munich. The remaining 2 matches will not have any effect on them, so they can take advantage of rotating and resting their players. Yes, it is an opportunity that they must utilize very well. Because with the tight schedule of course results like this will be very beneficial for any club.
They can make better preparations with the calm they got in the last 2 matches. Salzburg is still competing with Benfica to be able to go at least to the European League.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 09, 2023, 10:57:01 AM

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ETH is to be blame in most of Manchester united defeat due to his lack of tactics because I don’t know why Rashford started in the first place. Honestly, this guy and Varane are against this manager and we can all see it but ETH keeps putting him because of English media. Rashford is a mess killing manchester united honestly and he was not even sad and won’t react positively next game for selling this one away.

Blaming Erik Ten Hag for United's loss is insensitive because these Manchester players are discourteous in my opinion. Manchester United's defeat to Copenhagen was an unforeseen occurrence because I determine no reason why Marcus Rashford would commit a heinous foul by matching his opponent with his boot, not to mention pressing him with his pin. Some viewers expressed their opinions, describing it as an involuntary action, but the referee has the final say, and he issued Rashford a red card for a deliberate action. Prior to it, United was leading 2 nil but couldn't defend their territory, conceding two goals in the first half. In the second half, they couldn't withstand the pressure and lost threw points.

That red card for Marcus Rashford was well deserved, even though he doesn't seem to feel any accountability. Despite being down to 10 men, Manchester United should still be dominating against Copenhagen in this game. But, we have witnessed their defeat. However, patience is running out, and the series of bad luck continues. Fans can't accept a perpetual downfall of Manchester United. This team needs a football manager who can read the game properly, not a coach who doesn't know the right player to substitute.

Losing the game against Copenhagen was not good at all but still, Copenhagen was lucky in this game because the mistake of the referee in this game had a huge effect on the game.
Manchester United scored two goals and the game was 2-0, while people were thinking Manchester United was going to win this match, Marcus Rashford got a red card and it was a mistake by the referee because I think he didn't do that on purpose.

Maybe the referee had some wrong decisions. However, I am not at all satisfied with Manchester United's performance. Manchester United's performance was quite poor in this match as well. Especially their defense was weak. After Rashford's red card, Manchester United's gameplay slowed down and their players lost confidence. Because of this, the defense of Manchester United's defence was easily broken by the players of Copenhagen. Copenhagen scored the first goal in the 45th minute and added another goal in extra time to tie the game. At the beginning of the second half, Manchester United took the lead by scoring another goal from the penalty spot. After leading 3-2, United should have played completely defensively and not allowed Copenhagen to score. But United's players were completely unsuccessful in this match.

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Quote from: Marvell1 on November 09, 2023, 10:53:13 AM

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Manchester United are no longer the same team they were even a year or two ago. Out of their 17 games Manchester United have lost 9, the percentage of defeats is already over 50 and it seems that this is the worst result for 50 years, so the defeat against Copenhagen was statistically expected.
Before the game with Manchester, Copenhagen won 4 out of 5 games and they played well, yes without Rashford's suspension the victory probably would not have happened, but they could probably draw.

Given that Bayern Munich are already in the playoffs, now 3 teams will play on equal terms to get out of the group. While Galatasaray have the best chances, they need to draw with Manchester United and beat Copenhagen and then Mauro Icardi's team will definitely get out of the group. Manchester need to win the remaining 2 games and then they will have a chance to get out of the group.

Let's be honest, we cannot say that Copenhagen is a better team compared to Manchester United. That is just not true. Manchester United is a far better team when compared to teams like Copenhagen. I do not want to offend anyone, but I think saying that Copenhagen is not a weak team is just a coping mechanism for the Manchester United fans. There was no reason for Manchester United to lose this match. There was also no reason for Manchester United to defend so poorly in this match. I think the authority of Manchester United really needs to sit down and have a talk about the coach.

Copenhagen is not a better team compared to Manchester United, but it's worth to say that Copenhagen is a well-prepared because they played like nothing to lose and know very well about Manchester united, and tactically they know what setup of the team they need on the pitch while Manchester United played with pressure that have to win the game against weaker team to progress in the group.

it's not worth to keep talking about referee after losing against a weaker team, a big team need to evaluate them self on how they could not maximize the chances they created. that's the mentality they need to set. Fans can critisize the palyers and manager, but they still need create positive atmosphere to the players to reduce pressure.

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Quote from: Razmirraz on November 09, 2023, 10:29:10 AM

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Quote from: MK-74 on November 09, 2023, 01:41:14 AM

We concede goals very easily. Both goals were scored very easily.
I agree about bakambu. He was bad in all the matches, but this game was the first time he played well.

Rashford will not play in the Galatasaray game. This is good news for us,, I think we will beat M.United.

I think Galatasaray and Copenhagen are both very lucky this season in the Champions League because they are in the same group as Manchester United while this team is not in good form at all and they easily take points against Ten Hag and his players.
Also, both teams Copenhagen and Galatasaray got a high chance to be in the next stage however I think considering the recent games we saw, Galatasaray got more chance than Copenhagen to be the second team.

After looking at the results obtained in the fourth match of the group phase, Galatasaray is in the leading position compared to Copenhagen and Manchester who will accompany Bayern Munich to the knockout stage. The two remaining matches provide opportunities for Galatasaray, of course the condition is that they must be able to get 6 points.

One of the matches that Galatasaray will play will be against Manchester United, Manchester United's unstable condition makes Galatasaray the superior team. The final match will bring Copenhagen and Galatasaray together, this match will be decisive for Galatasaray to qualify for the knock out round.
Copenhagen also has a mission to qualify, this match will give the feel of a final because both teams want to get three points to determine their fate in the Champions League.

A red card that will bring good luck to the Manchester United squad to escape from a tight hole, who knows, when Ten Hag loses Rahsfoord in his starting XI, United will become more stable and achieve victory, that's a very interesting thing. In my opinion, the luckiest was Bayern Munchen in Group A, because they did not face significant resistance when United appeared inconsistent, and this indirectly brought blessings to Galatasaray and Copenhagen.

Two matches remain, one away and one home, but United best chance is in the match against Galatasaray. I don't see The Red Devils being able to beat Munchen in the final match of the group stage. But that doesn't mean it's impossible to happen. Overall, three clubs in Group A will compete for a place in the last 16, because it is unlikely that Munchen will fail.

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ETH is to be blame in most of Manchester united defeat due to his lack of tactics because I don’t know why Rashford started in the first place. Honestly, this guy and Varane are against this manager and we can all see it but ETH keeps putting him because of English media. Rashford is a mess killing manchester united honestly and he was not even sad and won’t react positively next game for selling this one away.

Blaming Erik Ten Hag for United's loss is insensitive because these Manchester players are discourteous in my opinion. Manchester United's defeat to Copenhagen was an unforeseen occurrence because I determine no reason why Marcus Rashford would commit a heinous foul by matching his opponent with his boot, not to mention pressing him with his pin. Some viewers expressed their opinions, describing it as an involuntary action, but the referee has the final say, and he issued Rashford a red card for a deliberate action. Prior to it, United was leading 2 nil but couldn't defend their territory, conceding two goals in the first half. In the second half, they couldn't withstand the pressure and lost threw points.

That red card for Marcus Rashford was well deserved, even though he doesn't seem to feel any accountability. Despite being down to 10 men, Manchester United should still be dominating against Copenhagen in this game. But, we have witnessed their defeat. However, patience is running out, and the series of bad luck continues. Fans can't accept a perpetual downfall of Manchester United. This team needs a football manager who can read the game properly, not a coach who doesn't know the right player to substitute.

Losing the game against Copenhagen was not good at all but still, Copenhagen was lucky in this game because the mistake of the referee in this game had a huge effect on the game.
Manchester United scored two goals and the game was 2-0, while people were thinking Manchester United was going to win this match, Marcus Rashford got a red card and it was a mistake by the referee because I think he didn't do that on purpose.

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That's a shame for a team like Manchester United to lose a game against Copenhagen in the Champions League. Copenhagen is not a strong team and they don't have any hope for this tournament but Manchester United had a poor performance in this game which is enough for any team to use the chance and win the game. In fact, Manchester United was a top team in this tournament and now they are losing games against weak teams.

Manchester United are no longer the same team they were even a year or two ago. Out of their 17 games Manchester United have lost 9, the percentage of defeats is already over 50 and it seems that this is the worst result for 50 years, so the defeat against Copenhagen was statistically expected.
Before the game with Manchester, Copenhagen won 4 out of 5 games and they played well, yes without Rashford's suspension the victory probably would not have happened, but they could probably draw.

Given that Bayern Munich are already in the playoffs, now 3 teams will play on equal terms to get out of the group. While Galatasaray have the best chances, they need to draw with Manchester United and beat Copenhagen and then Mauro Icardi's team will definitely get out of the group. Manchester need to win the remaining 2 games and then they will have a chance to get out of the group.

Let's be honest, we cannot say that Copenhagen is a better team compared to Manchester United. That is just not true. Manchester United is a far better team when compared to teams like Copenhagen. I do not want to offend anyone, but I think saying that Copenhagen is not a weak team is just a coping mechanism for the Manchester United fans. There was no reason for Manchester United to lose this match. There was also no reason for Manchester United to defend so poorly in this match. I think the authority of Manchester United really needs to sit down and have a talk about the coach.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 09, 2023, 07:55:50 AM

Quote from: MK-74 on November 09, 2023, 01:41:14 AM

We concede goals very easily. Both goals were scored very easily.
I agree about bakambu. He was bad in all the matches, but this game was the first time he played well.

Rashford will not play in the Galatasaray game. This is good news for us,, I think we will beat M.United.

I think Galatasaray and Copenhagen are both very lucky this season in the Champions League because they are in the same group as Manchester United while this team is not in good form at all and they easily take points against Ten Hag and his players.
Also, both teams Copenhagen and Galatasaray got a high chance to be in the next stage however I think considering the recent games we saw, Galatasaray got more chance than Copenhagen to be the second team.

After looking at the results obtained in the fourth match of the group phase, Galatasaray is in the leading position compared to Copenhagen and Manchester who will accompany Bayern Munich to the knockout stage. The two remaining matches provide opportunities for Galatasaray, of course the condition is that they must be able to get 6 points.

One of the matches that Galatasaray will play will be against Manchester United, Manchester United's unstable condition makes Galatasaray the superior team. The final match will bring Copenhagen and Galatasaray together, this match will be decisive for Galatasaray to qualify for the knock out round.
Copenhagen also has a mission to qualify, this match will give the feel of a final because both teams want to get three points to determine their fate in the Champions League.

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Quote from: borovichok on November 09, 2023, 07:29:18 AM

Marcus Rashford of Manchester United should be held solely responsible for the devastating defeats in Telia Parken yesterday. How will your team be leading 2 nil before 30 minutes of the game? Rashford's sole thought was to commit an extensive foul, which resulted in Rumsas Donatas sending him off the pitch. On the other hand, I blame Erik Ten Hag for his revolting defensive approach against Copenhagen after his team was down a man. The most important objective was to stop Copenhagen from scoring and stopping a possible equaliser but he was content if nothing happened.

This match was so surprising, I saw that when they were winning 2-0, I thought they would win this match, but after Marcus Rashford received a red card, Copenhagen surprisingly made a painful comeback 4-3. From this match we can judge that in the Champions League there is no such thing as a weak team, everyone competing in the Blue Continent League includes teams whose strengths have been recognized in their respective leagues, so in every match they are required to remain consistent and provide unexpected surprises. It is very difficult in a position like this who is responsible for Man United's defeat.

But I see a positive note for Man United with nine shots on target which is commendable, reflecting the team's resilience and determination despite facing challenges. Additionally, Hojlund's promising performance highlights the potential for growth within the team. Even though Man United is currently in 4th place in the Champions League group phase, I still hope they can qualify for the next stage. By the way, matches like this are what make UCL so exciting to watch.

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Galatasaray has to be to most lucky because they are currently at more advantage to qualify than Copenhagen because they have better performance and strength when compared to Copenhagen in the champions league so far, the first time they met, Galatasaray won.

Manchester united just happened to be the source of gaining points to all the team in their group, yesterday I can say been carefree led to their loss because if after their two goals they got earlier they calmed the pressure and played with easy thy would have been able to defend their two goal to the end or probably get another goals but then the maintained the pressure and got a red card which cost them much, the defense line of Manchester continually keeps remaining poor and causing their fall.

Let's imagine, what if Manchester United is finally able to win the match against Galatasaray in the second leg. and likewise, they were able to overthrow Bayern. whether United still have a chance, and Copenhagen held Galatasaray to a draw. interesting isn't it, I think yep. because after all, we don't know the final result yet. In fact, it is also possible that Copenhagen will accompany Bayern Munich into the next phase.
After all, in football it's unique, and whatever, can occur. We'll just make sure, when the competition starts to be held again.

As for United's match against Copenhagen, this team was really unlucky. they would not have thought that the final result would be like this. Nevertheless, United played the match without giving up. If I'm not mistaken, it is reported that several United players have recovered from their injuries before the match against Galatasaray. some names include Luke Shaw, Malacia, and hopefully Casemiro will also recover faster than expected. In fact, I just want to see United perform at their best. regardless of winning or losing, it was a different matter. As a neutral fan, I hope Ten Hag is able to revive his squad. Even if they have to resign in this competition, they can focus more on the domestic league.

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Quote from: swogerino on November 09, 2023, 02:11:46 AM

Manchester United is becoming a joke team this season in everywhere they are playing,in all competitions,both in the Champions League and the Premier League.Honestly I still cannot understand how a red card can impact the game that much for them to concede 4 goals,concede 4 goals from a team who is weaker and who plays in a much weaker competition than the Premier League.

If they don't sack Ten Haag which I think is the root cause of all the bad things happening to Manchester United then they should be prepared for much worse than what they have already suffered.

Exactly my point. They were ahead with 2 goals and I don’t understand how a red card to a winger will affect their overall performance in such a way that they ended up conceding 2 goals in the first half half. If a wingers gets sent off, there’s no need to make substitution but to apply some tactics in order to balance the team. I expected Ten Hag to apply wisdom and get at least a point from that game yesterday.

Honestly, I think Ten Hag should take the blame for that abysmal result. Yes, he has a big part of the blame.
What is he doing about the pattern of Manchester United conceding goals. Exactly same pattern in different games.
Opponents go the sides (either right or left) and the give a cut back cross or pass. Never a Manchester united player in position to pick the opponent... goal. For the umpteenth time, this same thing. I can't see anything Ten Hah is doing about this particular defensive error.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 09, 2023, 06:52:15 AM

It does not matter. If he had intentionally committed such an act, he would have received a red + 5 game suspension. Thank God football rules protect the health of players and all potentially dangerous actions should be excluded. I think you've heard that tackles from behind are a violation even if the player was able to play the ball and did not hit the player from whom he took the ball? Think about why this is so now (as opposed to the old days).

Decision been taken already, I'm not the type to lament over past games for too long. Now it's ahead ahead. Glad to see that the lad wasn't Injured even in the slightest way. Rules have improved and I respect that. But still, why won't a ten Man Manchester United win Copenhagen? There's no Fvcknn fear factor.

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I don't like Marcus Rashford personally but have you checked closey to see his approach? Marcus Rashford had no intentions of fouling that lad, all he was trynna do was protect the ball. The match officials understanding of the game is not too quality, for it it was he woulda know that wasn't intentional. Since he has given the red card can I change the fact? No! So ahead ahead they go, they must climb their own mountain.

- There might be a lot of debate about Rashford's red card, and loyal Man United fans could attribute their loss to that. They might be right, and perhaps Man United faced some bad luck. However, I believe the result was more due to their inconsistent and extremely fragile style of play.
- Even if there was no red card, I think the best-case scenario for Man United would have been a draw, or maybe even a win. But honestly, I want Man United to face such frustrating results because it could be a wake-up call for them.
- They are playing like weak teams, and Ten Hag keeps struggling with a pile of chaos, yet he hasn't managed to establish a clear playing style for Man United.

I dont know how you can make such a stupid red card on such an important level. Also a 10 man Manchester United should hold out Copenhagen any day of the week. I think everyone lost money on Man Utd and this Ten Hag needs to leave because his results are just killing Man Utd.

Take a chill pill mate! Not even the management and ex Manchester United players are mounting pressure on Erik Ten Hag. Without much to say he is a good coach, he just have to keep he's head down. From what I see, he hasn't been able to sleep well for days.
I have seen so many memes online over his comments on Ronaldo's exit! I know nobody gives a Fvck! But here are his own words hunting him. Godspeed with his Manchester United, I hope amd pray they prevail.

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There is still a chance for Manchester United to qualify for the last 16, they only need to fully secure the remaining 2 matches in the future, so the maximum points they can achieve is 9 points. But this is very difficult to make happen, because we know their next opponents will be Galatasaray and Bayern Munchen. Both clubs have beaten United in the first leg, so it is difficult to believe United can collect maximum points in these two matches.

Whatever the scenario, United fate really depends on the results of the Galatasaray and Copenhagen matches, while it is certain that Munchen will not encounter any difficulties. I think the most realistic opportunity now for Ten Hag is to bring his squad to finish in third place, and continue their journey in the Europa League, that is if they are able to compete there.

Yes, Manchester United still has a chance of hoping to qualify for the last 16, but Galatasaray's chances are much better. I agree that 3rd place is the most realistic target for Manchester United after losing 4-3 to Copenhagen, but things are still very likely to change if Manchester United can win the matches against Galatasaray and Bayern Munich.

Galatasaray and Copenhagen also have the opportunity to qualify for the last 16, so the competition in the remaining group stage matches will be very interesting to look forward to. I excluded Bayern Munich because they are certain to qualify, while Galatasaray, Copenhagen and Manchester United will struggle to achieve their targets this season.

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Quote from: boltz on November 09, 2023, 08:42:25 AM

It seems nothing can save United this season and now they are last place in their UCL group and with low chances to actually catch Europa League spot. This is also the worst season I do remember for United in the last 2 decades and it's a shame to see such a big club doing so bad.

I must confess that Sociedad is playing the best football on 1st half from all the other teams and I won't be surprise to see them reaching a quarter final at least. Cool

Manchester United have them self to their chance to progress from the group. it's all on them. Ability and Possibility are still on their hand. They only need to win against Galatasaray away before facing a relaxing Bayern at home. if they win those two games, they will qualify for Round of 16, because Galatasaray and Copenhagen will to face each other.

but seeing their desire to win games, it's understandable that people write them off. it seems like they play just as a job, no enthusiasm. Erik Ten Hag looks frustrating to find solution on how utilize his players capability to play as a team.

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