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November 09, 2023, 04:17:25 AM
ETH is to be blame in most of Manchester united defeat due to his lack of tactics because I don’t know why Rashford started in the first place. Honestly, this guy and Varane are against this manager and we can all see it but ETH keeps putting him because of English media. Rashford is a mess killing manchester united honestly and he was not even sad and won’t react positively next game for selling this one away.
Blaming Erik Ten Hag for United's loss is insensitive because these Manchester players are discourteous in my opinion. Manchester United's defeat to Copenhagen was an unforeseen occurrence because I determine no reason why Marcus Rashford would commit a heinous foul by matching his opponent with his boot, not to mention pressing him with his pin. Some viewers expressed their opinions, describing it as an involuntary action, but the referee has the final say, and he issued Rashford a red card for a deliberate action. Prior to it, United was leading 2 nil but couldn't defend their territory, conceding two goals in the first half. In the second half, they couldn't withstand the pressure and lost threw points.
That red card for Marcus Rashford was well deserved, even though he doesn't seem to feel any accountability. Despite being down to 10 men, Manchester United should still be dominating against Copenhagen in this game. But, we have witnessed their defeat. However, patience is running out, and the series of bad luck continues. Fans can't accept a perpetual downfall of Manchester United. This team needs a football manager who can read the game properly, not a coach who doesn't know the right player to substitute.
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November 09, 2023, 04:12:32 AM
Manchester United is becoming a joke team this season in everywhere they are playing,in all competitions,both in the Champions League and the Premier League.Honestly I still cannot understand how a red card can impact the game that much for them to concede 4 goals,concede 4 goals from a team who is weaker and who plays in a much weaker competition than the Premier League.

If they don't sack Ten Haag which I think is the root cause of all the bad things happening to Manchester United then they should be prepared for much worse than what they have already suffered.

Since Manchester United hasn't advanced past the group stage of the Champions League in the last two seasons, Hojlund is a capable striker, but I don't think the team is ready for him. When he scored the game's first goal in three minutes and its second goal in twenty-eight, I kept in mind that Manchester United had already won, but Rashford's red card ended up ruining the entire match. I'm not sure why Ten Hag's started him in the match. I don't like the way he performed this season. Because of their recent bad play, people will hardly think that Manchester United would win a match against any team. However, I believe if Casemiro and Martinez were available, I think they could be able to defend the lead when they win.

I don't think Harry Maguire will change. I understand that every player makes mistakes, but his own is too much. One player was sent off and still went on to caused a penalty. They must sack Ten Hag's to improve Manchester United's performance. Since Ten Hag's arrival, the team has hardly won a game. However, if it weren't for the red card, the team performed well yesterday. I don't think Rashford wants Manchester to perform well this season, so I can only blame Ten Hag's and Rashford responsible for this defeat.
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November 09, 2023, 03:58:37 AM
ETH is to be blame in most of Manchester united defeat due to his lack of tactics because I don’t know why Rashford started in the first place. Honestly, this guy and Varane are against this manager and we can all see it but ETH keeps putting him because of English media. Rashford is a mess killing manchester united honestly and he was not even sad and won’t react positively next game for selling this one away.
Blaming Erik Ten Hag for United's loss is insensitive because these Manchester players are discourteous in my opinion. Manchester United's defeat to Copenhagen was an unforeseen occurrence because I determine no reason why Marcus Rashford would commit a heinous foul by matching his opponent with his boot, not to mention pressing him with his pin. Some viewers expressed their opinions, describing it as an involuntary action, but the referee has the final say, and he issued Rashford a red card for a deliberate action. Prior to it, United was leading 2 nil but couldn't defend their territory, conceding two goals in the first half. In the second half, they couldn't withstand the pressure and lost threw points.
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November 09, 2023, 03:54:30 AM


Another multibet win in last night's match and of the 6 bets I placed, only the Napoli vs Union Berlin match had a half win. Actually, I made this multibet bet when Union Berlin equalized and I thought it was likely that this would be a draw or even be the first win for Union Berlin. Without Victor Osimhen, it was clear that Napoli were not very sharp in attack and even though they had other opportunities, it didn't seem like they could add another advantage to them. On the other hand, Union Berlin was still able to keep up with Napoli's game even though they lost badly in ball possession.

Apart from that, for Inter with the only goal from the penalty spot scored by Lautaro Martinez and also Bayern Munich with a brace scored by Harry Kane, I am also happy that they got a late win in this match and at the same time made both of them qualify for the next round.
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November 09, 2023, 03:50:05 AM
I'm not a fan of Manchester United, let alone ETH, but this isn't just about ETH's failure to provide Manchester United with tactics and strategies to perform better, personally I just say that it's not just ETH's fault, bad tactics or strategy but because of the players. those who haven't played in the UCL so they are still not mature enough to perform better. I think Manchester United doesn't need to expect more because of its failure in the UCL.

They can at least focus now on the EPL to fix everything and restore their former glory days where this club has always been a club that was looked up to, to be honest, Manchester United has always been a club that has been ridiculed on social media, so maybe their fans are also not happy to see their favorite team always being ridiculed and continuing to not play well, there is a lot that needs to be improved and it will take time to make Manchester United become a favorite club again and ETH is the person most responsible for that.
But in fact Manchester United's performance in the Premier League is also in a very bad state, this is not about the mentality of the Manchester United players being bad, it is indeed the Manchester United team's play that is very bad and that can be seen in all competitions.
There is no one else to blame except Erik Ten Hag, and all the Manchester United players in this season's squad are the players he wants.
The Manchester United team has been built according to Erik Teen Hag's wishes, but he still failed to improve the team's performance.

I really doubt that Manchester United will be able to recover in the near future, especially now that so many of their main players are injured, plus continuing to reap bad results has made the confidence of the players in the team decrease further.
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November 09, 2023, 03:25:27 AM
ETH is to be blame in most of Manchester united defeat due to his lack of tactics because I don’t know why Rashford started in the first place. Honestly, this guy and Varane are against this manager and we can all see it but ETH keeps putting him because of English media. Rashford is a mess killing manchester united honestly and he was not even sad and won’t react positively next game for selling this one away.
I'm not a fan of Manchester United, let alone ETH, but this isn't just about ETH's failure to provide Manchester United with tactics and strategies to perform better, personally I just say that it's not just ETH's fault, bad tactics or strategy but because of the players. those who haven't played in the UCL so they are still not mature enough to perform better. I think Manchester United doesn't need to expect more because of its failure in the UCL.

They can at least focus now on the EPL to fix everything and restore their former glory days where this club has always been a club that was looked up to, to be honest, Manchester United has always been a club that has been ridiculed on social media, so maybe their fans are also not happy to see their favorite team always being ridiculed and continuing to not play well, there is a lot that needs to be improved and it will take time to make Manchester United become a favorite club again and ETH is the person most responsible for that.
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November 09, 2023, 02:54:38 AM
Yes, maybe because Manchester United was one of the big clubs in the past and if you look at this bad performance it seems like it's very ridiculous where when a big club experiences bad things it will immediately recover, but in contrast to Manchester United, where there has been no change since the start of the season, it's even more ridiculous. Again, this club could lose to a club that is not that strong.
With this bad problem it is very natural that everyone will blame the coach who has full responsibility for the future of his club but at least give Erik Ten Hag a chance until the end of the season and if nothing changes maybe it would be better to fire him.
Manchester United performance actually started to improve last season when Ten Hag first arrived, but it is very surprising that in Ten Hag's second season in charge of the Manchester United team, his performance decreased, regardless of the reason why many players were injured, but I think Te Hag must be responsible for the bad performance. Manchester United at the moment, and if you look at the team's progress which is not improving, it is indeed appropriate for Manchester United to fire Ten Hag.
Losing again in the group phase match means that Manchester United's chances of qualifying for the round of 16 are very small.
However, I am not surprised by this defeat, the team is in a slump now so the bad results they have achieved since the start of this season is something we have seen normally.

Believe me, he needs to be sacked! Union Berlin are not a very strong team compared to Napoli and in the game, the stats proved that but I was shocked when I checked the scoreline and saw 1-1. Like, they couldn't even push for more goals, as of they were content with it. I wonder what kind of tactics Rui Garcia employed for them to play such a disappointing game last night. Osimhen is out injured but that doesn't mean the others can't coordinate the game. Even if this draw gave them one point and pushed them up to 2nd place behind Real Madrid, it's still no excuse for the lame performance and honestly, it fell below expectations.
 Union just have one point and are at the bottom of their group C but I doubt they seem to mind, if anything, they felt content drawing the game.
Playing at home against a team whose quality is far below Napoli but not managing to win the match is very surprising.
Osimhen's absence should not be an excuse because their opponents are Union Berlin, a team whose quality is very poor this season.
Since the beginning of Rudi Garcia's arrival in handling the Napoli team, it has been quite doubtful, especially since he continues to be compared with Spalletti, who was quite successful with Napoli last season. Indeed, if you look at the results received and Napoli's inconsistent performance at this time, it is appropriate for the Napoli team to immediately looking for a replacement for Rudi Garcia.
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November 09, 2023, 02:44:38 AM
Manchester United is becoming a joke team this season in everywhere they are playing,in all competitions,both in the Champions League and the Premier League.Honestly I still cannot understand how a red card can impact the game that much for them to concede 4 goals,concede 4 goals from a team who is weaker and who plays in a much weaker competition than the Premier League.

If they don't sack Ten Haag which I think is the root cause of all the bad things happening to Manchester United then they should be prepared for much worse than what they have already suffered.
Manchester would probably have sacked Ten Hag a long time ago, but there is no money for a new coach, the club has huge debts.

Copenhagen are not such a weak team, after all, they play in the Champions League and soccer is not the same as before, where you could successfully defend with ten men. Now a red card, especially at the beginning of the match is almost a sentence.
In addition, Manchester had their main striker suspended and the chance for successful attacks immediately fell and the role of striker tried to play McGuire.

Manchester have a chance to get out of the group, but they are very small, and with such a game will be good if they take at least 3rd place.
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November 09, 2023, 02:43:58 AM
Manchester United is becoming a joke team this season in everywhere they are playing,in all competitions,both in the Champions League and the Premier League.Honestly I still cannot understand how a red card can impact the game that much for them to concede 4 goals,concede 4 goals from a team who is weaker and who plays in a much weaker competition than the Premier League.

If they don't sack Ten Haag which I think is the root cause of all the bad things happening to Manchester United then they should be prepared for much worse than what they have already suffered.

Manchester united were actually playing fine until after the red card and everything changed to opposite direction. In fact, I can say that that game was the best display from them in the recent days but unfortunately the result was not in their favor. Red card is actually not supposed to have much influence since they were playing a weaker team. We all saw how Tottenham played against Chelsea despite they were two men down.

ETH is to be blame in most of Manchester united defeat due to his lack of tactics because I don’t know why Rashford started in the first place. Honestly, this guy and Varane are against this manager and we can all see it but ETH keeps putting him because of English media. Rashford is a mess killing manchester united honestly and he was not even sad and won’t react positively next game for selling this one away.
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November 09, 2023, 02:42:00 AM
Manchester United is becoming a joke team this season in everywhere they are playing,in all competitions,both in the Champions League and the Premier League.Honestly I still cannot understand how a red card can impact the game that much for them to concede 4 goals,concede 4 goals from a team who is weaker and who plays in a much weaker competition than the Premier League.

If they don't sack Ten Haag which I think is the root cause of all the bad things happening to Manchester United then they should be prepared for much worse than what they have already suffered.
Manchester United is a team that is difficult to predict this season, its consistency need to be questioned Manchester United has performed poorly since the start of the season, both in the Premier League and Champions League. It seems that currently Ten Hag will experience a lot of pressure from everyone regarding the club performance, and it seems that the opportunity Manchester United to qualify for the last 16 of the Champions League will be difficult for them to achieve. The only competitor that Manchester United can beat in Group A is Copenhagen, but unfortunately on their second chance when they face Copenhagen again, Manchester United lost the opportunity to get points, and it looks like this season Manchester United lost the opportunity to compete in the Champions League and the European League because Man Utd only had 2 matches left, namely facing Galatasaray and Bayern Munich, both clubs were quite difficult for Manchester United to beat with the currently condition of Man Utd player.
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November 09, 2023, 02:24:06 AM
Manchester United is becoming a joke team this season in everywhere they are playing,in all competitions,both in the Champions League and the Premier League.Honestly I still cannot understand how a red card can impact the game that much for them to concede 4 goals,concede 4 goals from a team who is weaker and who plays in a much weaker competition than the Premier League.

If they don't sack Ten Haag which I think is the root cause of all the bad things happening to Manchester United then they should be prepared for much worse than what they have already suffered.
Yes, maybe because Manchester United was one of the big clubs in the past and if you look at this bad performance it seems like it very ridiculous where when a big club experiences bad things it will immediately recover, but in contrast to Manchester United, where there has been no change since the start of the season, it even more ridiculous. Again, this club could lose to a club that not that strong.
With this bad problem it is very natural that everyone will blame the coach who has full responsibility for the future of his club but at least give Erik Ten Hag a chance until the end of the season and if nothing changes maybe it would be better to fire him.
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November 09, 2023, 02:15:29 AM
1-1 for Napoli  Grin
1st point for Bonucci in Germany.

And fans are now asking to sack Garcia.
Believe me, he needs to be sacked! Union Berlin are not a very strong team compared to Napoli and in the game, the stats proved that but I was shocked when I checked the scoreline and saw 1-1. Like, they couldn't even push for more goals, as of they were content with it. I wonder what kind of tactics Rui Garcia employed for them to play such a disappointing game last night. Osimhen is out injured but that doesn't mean the others can't coordinate the game. Even if this draw gave them one point and pushed them up to 2nd place behind Real Madrid, it's still no excuse for the lame performance and honestly, it fell below expectations.
 Union just have one point and are at the bottom of their group C but I doubt they seem to mind, if anything, they felt content drawing the game.
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November 09, 2023, 02:13:59 AM
Meguire must be applaused by all of copenhagen fans. He has been contributing 1 assist and 1 goal caused by meguire was making copenhagen got a penalty. It's unbelievable to see how meguire is starting to be another useless player again.
The last goal from copenhagen was coming from manchester united caused by meguire was heading it toward the wrong direction and so copenhagen player who received the ball was shooting it then the 4th goal for copenhagen was happening.
This player called meguire is totally garbage player. Meguire may need to be replaced caused by these guys have made so many mistakes at this moment. There's no need to defend him anymore.
Another lose against galatasaray will be the end for manchester united at this moment. MU was leading the match but rashford was also making everything worst.

I think we should stop making fun of Meguire. He has been criticized and insulted too much since last season, and the recent calm shows that his form is gradually improving. We should stop. Meguire and the Man United squad have the problem of not being able to cope with the pressure. Conceding too quickly in the matches against Bayern Munich and Galatasaray caused MU to lose. And MU players could not keep their spirits up after Marcus Rashford's red card, ''a red card that is still controversial''.
Meguire's incident was just bad luck. No one wanted it. Maguire also tried to score in the last minutes to make up for his mistake, but bad luck still haunted him. Problem: They lack people with leadership ability. Erik ten Hag still couldn't turn them into a strong team. He failed completely.
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November 09, 2023, 02:11:46 AM
Manchester United is becoming a joke team this season in everywhere they are playing,in all competitions,both in the Champions League and the Premier League.Honestly I still cannot understand how a red card can impact the game that much for them to concede 4 goals,concede 4 goals from a team who is weaker and who plays in a much weaker competition than the Premier League.

If they don't sack Ten Haag which I think is the root cause of all the bad things happening to Manchester United then they should be prepared for much worse than what they have already suffered.
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November 09, 2023, 01:41:14 AM
Galatasaray fought very well but couldn't win, we played well again, congratulations guys. Galatasaray will come 2nd from this group. I believe it.
Copenhagen-M.United is now 4-3, I hope it ends like this.

Galatasaray did a good work about not conceding a goal for like 80 minutes. But in the meantime they had a really good opportunity to score and get ahead. Because Bayern Munich weren't very willing to play like their real self. Galatasaray found important chances in the first half but no result. The second half was poorer for them in the attacking line.

If Icardi wasn't offside before Torreira's goal maybe we could have talked about a different result now. Kane scored 2 times very easily later on. The first goal was enough to weaken Galatasaray defense. To be honest I didn't expect Bakambu to make an impact after entering the match. Galatasaray had better play with all they have got against Manchester United next time.

We concede goals very easily. Both goals were scored very easily.
I agree about bakambu. He was bad in all the matches, but this game was the first time he played well.

Rashford will not play in the Galatasaray game. This is good news for us,, I think we will beat M.United.
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Many people concluded that Manchester united will win the match with the two goals they achieved in the first half, but what we saw in 44 minutes really makes people to give up on Manchester united in this season because there is no way they can succeed with that red card which is too early for their player to received from the referee. If you look at the starting of the match very well, you will know that Manchester united came with the mind set of winning the match, but Copenhagen players who have been seeking for opportunity right from the first half,got the opportunity in the second half to equalized the two goals 2-2 to eliminate the hope of Manchester united before they struggle to ended the match with 4-3 for the favour of Copenhagen. Erik Ten Hag failed Manchester united in this season, both champions league competition and premier league competition which is giving their president worry over the huge amount of money he spend on players in this season.
Yeah even me yesterday I was distracted with some issue which I thought I will handle after the first half, when the time was 42 minutes I left that I will return early to continue second half and the second half begins I then saw 2-2 which I was shocked that I thought it could be my eye which I moved closer and also check the livescore on my phone, from that junction I give up that Manchester United will not win this man, some people are giving silly thought that if Rashford was not sent off the game will still be in favor of Manchester United, I said to my self that Rashford is not a defender so losing him will not stopped them from defending themselves. Erik Ten Hag has failed Manchester United after scoring the third goal I was expecting change of game since there are 10 against 11 which Erik Ten Hag will suggest defending themselves to secured this win. I think supporting Manchester United this season is just like someone carry his own money to buy a disaster because look at how Copenhagen disgrace Manchester United, the interval between each two goals is not even up five minutes I don't think Manchester United can come back again unless some changes may come through January window, it few days aware let watch and see.
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November 09, 2023, 01:17:57 AM
If you notice, you will see their midfielders and defenders let Copenhagen players have too much space and time to hold the ball beyond the box. It is a very dangerous area but Manchester United players did not create enough pressure on opponent players. They will lose more matches if won't improve their defense system.
Manchester United's fatal flaw lies in their midfield. They lack a genuine defensive midfielder who can effectively shield their defense. Opponents can easily breach their defense, and unfortunately, their defense isn't much better than their midfield. Hence, it didn't come as a big surprise to me that Manchester United suffered a comeback.
Manchester United should be accept the fact that they have to lose against the team which is on the paper weakiest than them and Manchester United journey have to ended now because 3 points from 4 matches makes their position at the bottom of group standings
Manchester United's elimination in this group was quite clear in the end; their chances of advancing have all but vanished.
Maybe if Man Utd wins this match then they will have the opportunity to qualify for the next stage with Bayern quite easily. But it seems like everything isn't going as smoothly as expected.
With a 2-goal lead and facing the weakest team in the group, Copenhagen, if they still can't secure a win, I think it will be hard to expect any miraculous turnaround that gets them into the next round.
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November 09, 2023, 12:38:07 AM
Manchester United even could expand the gap to three goals if Hojlund was not too self fish by hunting a third goal for himself. After that, the red card of Rashford was unlucky for him and Manchester United. With weak defense and with one player less than Copenhagen, Manchester United failed to defend their advantage and even luckily got a third goal with a penalty from Bruno, they lost the match with two late goals from Copenhagen.

If you notice, you will see their midfielders and defenders let Copenhagen players have too much space and time to hold the ball beyond the box. It is a very dangerous area but Manchester United players did not create enough pressure on opponent players. They will lose more matches if won't improve their defense system.
It was quite dramatic when Hojlund played very well, but this was the second time after he scored 2 goals but ended up losing. Manchester United had to be eliminated from the Champions League in a very painful way. The first half was full of drama with Rashford red card and he deserved it. Handball provides a greater opportunity for Copenhagen to recover from defeat and be able to fill the gap left by Rashford. In my opinion, this match will definitely be very disappointing for United fans because their happiness can only be felt until Hojlund second goal, because after that a series of problems at the back, Varane introduction to replace Evan was felt to be more solid in guarding the back defense but Varane played less well.
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November 09, 2023, 12:30:01 AM
Man United at best are getting to Europa League and worst is they are out being bottom of the table. I think they have a decent chance to beat Galatasaray in Turkey but their last match is against Bayern. In United's best case, they beat Galatasaray and hope Galatasaray lose their final game in Denmark.
This is a very difficult thing for Manchester United, because apart from having to win against Galatasaray at the Rams Global Stadyumu, Manchester United also still has to hope that Galatasaray will lose again in the last match. It is clear that it is not an easy condition for Manchester United at the moment, which even looks difficult to reach the Europa League even though they still have a chance to do so. However, currently Galatasaray and Copenhagen also look better in the Champions League group.
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November 09, 2023, 12:27:37 AM
Manchester United seems to be unlucky, that's my opinion, the defeat after defeat they got in the champions league was not a defeat through an easy process because they almost won the match against Copenhagen, but when they were unlucky then all their hard work was in vain.
The red card was indeed the cause, but the two goal advantage should have been used as capital for Manchester United to determine the strategy to use after the red card and Ten Hag failed to instruct his squad on the right strategy.
They are unlucky because Rashford likely did not intend to make that dangerous foul but with VAR checking, it is detected and because of the dangerous foul, it is indeed very dangerous, even it is not intentionally, he deserves with a red card.

The red card makes Manchester United defense system weaker a lot and they got three conceded goals easily. They can feel regret with a very late shot from Harry Maguire that his the cross bar of Copenhagen and some opportunities wasted by their players. Generally, Copenhagen won the match and they deserve it with all efforts they make and it's hard for Manchester United fans to accept this defeat as it nearly drags Man United out of Champions League.

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There is still one place left that Manchester United can get in the group, but they have to win all the remaining matches, that is not an easy thing because they will face Galasataray away and Bayern Munich at Old Trafford, maybe Bayern Munich will no longer field all of their main squad. in the remaining matches, which opens up opportunities for United, but Galasataray will make things very difficult for United, so a miracle can take them through the group stage.
With poor defense, they lost to Galatasaray and Copenhagen with same stories, scored first and lost at the end. With this poor defense, they will be destroyed by Bayern Munich and they have to aim at a third position in this group to join Europa League. It's impossible for them to get a second position in this group with only two matches left.
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