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Quote from: bitcoin_mining on August 17, 2024, 10:33:05 PM

When a new season starts and when different teams play a few matches in the beginning we get an idea about different teams and accordingly predict a team that this team can reach this level this season but everything can be said about Real Madrid. It's not just that Real Madrid have strengthened their squad this season, they always focus on strengthening their squad in all aspects. And the most important thing is that Real Madrid has consistency and each player has a good understanding with each player which is why they are successful in almost every match and they will be successful in the next season.

The description of the form of play is not only seen in the Champions League because there may be other factors such as consistency of play in the domestic league. Although sometimes that is not a guarantee for them to play well in the Champions League or vice versa for many teams. For example, Dortmund played not very consistently in the Bundesliga, but they managed to advance to the final round where they were ultimately defeated by Real Madrid. Likewise, Arsenal and Man City played quite consistently in the Premier League, but they failed in the Champions League.

There are many factors that make a team play more consistently, especially in the Champions League because the competition in that league is quite tight. Experience, mentality and players and coaches really determine how they are able to reach the end of the final as champions

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It's clear that Real Madrid should be the most likely to defend their trophy. But, as you said, it's weird they got second, not first. Prob Pep's factor is the reason why we're still seeing City at the first place. Also, the funny thing is that Arsenal is more favored. They have smaller odds than Munich, which beat them last season. But the only acceptable reason is probably due to the new coach of Bayern Munich. Still, this looks so strange.

All of that can still change when the season starts because for me it is also not right to put Real Madrid in second place after what Real Madrid achieved last season and also with the current Real Madrid squad. If it is because Pep is still coaching Manchester City, I think it is also not wrong if we consider Ancelotti as a good coach for Real Madrid so that every Real Madrid player is able to play the way he gives. We can see an example when Real Madrid beat Atalanta where in the first half Real Madrid did not play well enough, but in the second half everything changed and Madrid became a team that was able to win.

When a new season starts and when different teams play a few matches in the beginning we get an idea about different teams and accordingly predict a team that this team can reach this level this season but everything can be said about Real Madrid. It's not just that Real Madrid have strengthened their squad this season, they always focus on strengthening their squad in all aspects. And the most important thing is that Real Madrid has consistency and each player has a good understanding with each player which is why they are successful in almost every match and they will be successful in the next season.

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We can not tell who will emerge as the Champions League winner this time around, but odds keep resting on Manchester City with Madrid being the strongest opposer. Just as other leagues are kicking off we get to see more from various teams, on how they perform then can we grade their chances accordingly. Madrid are definitely going to loose some of their games, it might be that team less likely the favourite to defeat Madrid, football has been a game of professionalism and luck involved.

Manchester City is of course always a favorite, but I have to say that it is all about Real Madrid I guess. The team is brutal now that they also have Mbappe. The game against Atalanta wasn't a top performance, but I think it is quite likely that they will only get better with every single game into the season. Rodrygo, Mbappe and Vinicius Junior as the frontline is insane and they still have Bellingham backing that trio from the midfield. So many players who pose a threat to their opponents. The only real loss they have to cope with is Kroos, but other than that their team is once again brutal.

Curious to see how Haaland will be doing this Champions League season. He was having quite a lot of trouble in the top games as the other teams knew pretty well how to neutralize him. It seemed as if he was far too predictable and couldn't deliver enough surprise moments. He was quite dead in the water often times, which I think should be addressed somehow.

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I don't know if there would ever be a time where I would be so confident and so assured of a team winning almost every game just as the way you are citing it to be. Real Madrid are very good and will mostly likely win their games but not all the games and that's something am certain of but the problem now is you can't actually tell that time that the fuck up will come which is why luck is still tied to this.

It’s not possible for a team to win all their matches, no matter how strong the team is, they are going to lose or draw some matches. We know Real Madrid has a strong squad currently, and it’s going to be difficult for any club to defeat them currently, but just the way you said it, any fuckup can happen, an error can happen, which might make them lose the chances of winning the champions league next season. But if I am to predict who will be the winner of the champions league for next season, then it should be between Manchester City and Real Madrid, because both of them has equal chances of winning it.

We can not tell who will emerge as the Champions League winner this time around, but odds keep resting on Manchester City with Madrid being the strongest opposer. Just as other leagues are kicking off we get to see more from various teams, on how they perform then can we grade their chances accordingly. Madrid are definitely going to loose some of their games, it might be that team less likely the favourite to defeat Madrid, football has been a game of professionalism and luck involved.

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What I am surprised at is why Manchester City is the number one according to the bookmakers because to me, I see Real Madrid having a better advantage of winning UCL that Manchester city and I do3need anyone to tell me that.

However, I believe that no one is perfect and as time passes by the odds will be changing na sed on the performance of the clubs. I think it will be another victorious season for Madrid because of the superb squad in their team, it will be difficult for any club to win them.

Just think of it as a trap. Lol
Real Madrid is indeed better than Manchester City, but Real Madrid is not always expected to win the Champions League title. It could be so that people don't say the Champions League is boring because of Real Madrid's dominance in winning the title, so bookmakers will consider Manchester City as favorites for other reasons.

I'm not saying Manchester City is the first favorite, but City deserves to be favorite because of the depth of its squad. They have a good coach like Real Madrid, but Madrid is built on good confidence in this competition. The strong mentality that the players have is something that other teams, including Manchester City, don't have, that's one of the reasons that makes Real Madrid difficult to beat.

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City - 3.25
Real - 3.95
Arsenal - 9.85
Liverpool - 11.10
Bayern - 12.70
Barcelona - 13.10
PSG - 16.80

It is surprising that Arsenal is higher than Bayern, Barcelona and even PSG. It is also not clear why City is considered the favorite, Real is the record holder in this tournament, although I probably agree with this, City really played better than Real. Probably in this rating I disagree only with the position of Bayern and would raise it higher.

The Champions League is still very far away, but currently there are many predictions that favor a team as champions next season, but the funny thing is that the existing predictions often make us shake our heads at this time, I think the predictions put forward by many parties are not valid without consideration and also an accurate reference for now, to be honest, it seems like they haven't learned from what happened last season when many parties favored Manchester City to win, but instead they had to stop their journey early in the Champions League.
Seeing the predictions mentioned above made me laugh and I don't know what the reason is that Manchester City is more worthy of winning the Champions League after seeing Madrid have perfect squad at the moment, Apart from that, I don't think Arsenal is better than Bayern Munich or even PSG at the moment.

In addition to all the other things you have already mentioned it is worth noting that this season the format of the Champions League is different, people have not seen it yet, teams should adapt to the new format, maybe many decent teams even. won't make it to the 1/8, who knows... The coefficients were most likely calculated on the basis of trivial probability theory, and the variables that were calculated were taken from the results of previous years, that's all.

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Quote from: Asiska02 on August 17, 2024, 01:41:33 PM

Regardless of luck in football, when you’re good and have experience and also know how to play the game better, you’ll always be the most favored anytime you play and you’ll always win most of your matches. Real Madrid has gathered a lot of experience that you don’t need to doubt them anymore, they’re the best in their league and also the best in the champions league being the defending champions. When they play, we always assume that they’ll win the match and no other team can stand them. Luck also plays its role in football but luck still comes to those who try and try to put some effort into winning that’s the only way luck will work for them. Smaller teams are less lucky because efforts they put are minimal and they lack that experience unlike the big teams.

Luck is import to when you are playing football and what matters the most is experience because even if the club you are playing against you is better than you then with your experience you will be able to defeat them and that is one of the privileges that Real Madrid usually enjoys they have young players with experience and that is also what was use to defeat Dortmund during the champions league final last season. And now that Real Madrid have all it takes to defeat a lot of clubs then it's a problem for other clubs because Madrid won't spare anyone, they have won the champions league title more than any other club so what do you expect to comot from those clubs, it is to early to know which club will win but we can not decide for now since all the clubs are in preparation, luck might decide to fall on other clubs, because with the way other clubs are preparing we won't expect the surprises we are going to see. Other clubs like arsenal and Manchester City are their and this season is going to be a good season for arsenal because from our opening game today it was excellent.

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Quote from: mvdheuvel1983 on August 17, 2024, 06:01:22 AM

Truly Real Madrid is the king of Europe all thanks to them management, the team president for always bringing in good coaches and young stars who are always potential world best players in view, they play as a team and they have the winning mentality always in every game they play so I guess they should crown them the King 👑 of European competitions because they definitely won't stop winning trophies with the world class players they have in the team right now.

The Atalanta team came so prepared for the game knowing they they are up against the best team in the world but not stepping up low as a result of the first half result of 0:0 shows how improved the Atalanta team has become after their performance in the Europa League finals last season.

That is literally how they build their squad, all the way from plane they pick for travels to equipment manager to team manager Ancelotti to players. They do like winning la liga and they do that quite frequently as we know it, but their entire existence is UCL and they make sure that every player knows this as well, they put the pressure on the players when it's an UCL game and that's why it matters a lot.

Sure there are other teams that try to win it too, like how City wanted one, and how PSG wants one, these are all important and rich clubs too but they do not have that club culture that Real Madrid has towards UCL, they literally make it known that only thing they care about UCL. So much so that, Real could finish third place in la liga but win UCL and they would be happy with that. This is why Florentino Perez wanted to have a "super league" type of league, because he wanted to win the best teams in the world and not just the Spanish teams.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on August 16, 2024, 09:49:53 AM

Now we are in playoff stage. Last 7 teams to join the CL league phase is going to be determined by this stage.

The draw:

Which ones are your favourites? Huh

Mine are Bodo/Glimt, Dinamo Zagreb, Midtjylland, Sparta Prague, Lille, Galatasaray and Salzburg.

In fact, I would really like to see Qarabag eliminating Dinamo Zagreb. I see them very impressive. You would remember their Europa League performance in the previous season.

They still look strong so an upset here might be possible maybe. I really hope that Galatasaray make it to league phase without problems. Young Boys look really weak recently.

LOSC's fixture is that which appeals to my attention the most, I like the fact that they are almost of equal strength with their opponent so that is enough to build some level of confidence in their performance and probably a good optimism too could be drawn from there. Young boys is another that has got my fancy because they appear very promising and are very likely to get things done in such a way that they will have a chance at winning this game nevertheless I'm just in optimistic anticipation for the both teams that got my interest and hoping to see only the best from them.

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Quote from: Jaycoinz on August 17, 2024, 01:59:49 PM

I don't know if there would ever be a time where I would be so confident and so assured of a team winning almost every game just as the way you are citing it to be. Real Madrid are very good and will mostly likely win their games but not all the games and that's something am certain of but the problem now is you can't actually tell that time that the fuck up will come which is why luck is still tied to this.

It’s not possible for a team to win all their matches, no matter how strong the team is, they are going to lose or draw some matches. We know Real Madrid has a strong squad currently, and it’s going to be difficult for any club to defeat them currently, but just the way you said it, any fuckup can happen, an error can happen, which might make them lose the chances of winning the champions league next season. But if I am to predict who will be the winner of the champions league for next season, then it should be between Manchester City and Real Madrid, because both of them has equal chances of winning it.

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Quote from: rendravolt on August 17, 2024, 08:51:03 AM

There is almost nothing different but here Real Madrid is much closer to Manchester City and makes both of them always on the same track to be able to win the Champions League. If we still remember Manchester City is always above Real Madrid with a large odds difference and this time Mbappe's arrival has changed the bookie's perspective where Real Madrid is much more promising after having a striker.

However, if we talk about the final, it seems that it will still happen again considering that luck will always accompany them no matter the strength that is quite far from the superior team and as long as they fight as hard as they can, it is possible that these teams can return to the final. But I'm curious if that's possible, I want to see Liverpool in the top match again. Grin

As of now, Real Madrid and Manchester City have almost the same strength and performance. As far as the Champions League is concerned, I can’t say all the competitions because they always get where they focus more, so now in the Champions League, to be sincere, I don’t think there is much difference between Real Madrid and Manchester City's performance. These two clubs are currently the toughest teams in the league, which makes it kind of difficult to say which of them will be the champions of the league. As for Liverpool, I don’t think they can do that because Real Madrid and Manchester City are stronger.

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It's clear that Real Madrid should be the most likely to defend their trophy. But, as you said, it's weird they got second, not first. Prob Pep's factor is the reason why we're still seeing City at the first place. Also, the funny thing is that Arsenal is more favored. They have smaller odds than Munich, which beat them last season. But the only acceptable reason is probably due to the new coach of Bayern Munich. Still, this looks so strange.

All of that can still change when the season starts because for me it is also not right to put Real Madrid in second place after what Real Madrid achieved last season and also with the current Real Madrid squad. If it is because Pep is still coaching Manchester City, I think it is also not wrong if we consider Ancelotti as a good coach for Real Madrid so that every Real Madrid player is able to play the way he gives. We can see an example when Real Madrid beat Atalanta where in the first half Real Madrid did not play well enough, but in the second half everything changed and Madrid became a team that was able to win.

Real Madrid is the strongest team on this planet, period. Anyone who argues differently is either ignorant or not listening. Although the preseason rankings could show Manchester City first, those are just figures on a page. They don't win championships, Real Madrid does. Real Madrid also has something in great numbers.

Remember last season? RM disproved the odds by demonstrating that football is about performance rather than predictions. And this squad performs really under Ancelotti's direction.

On the field, we have a mix of hungry young guys and seasoned veterans that is lethal. And Ancelotti is aware of how to maximize every one of them. He is a brilliant strategist who can use one tactical change to swing the tide of a game.

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City - 3.25
Real - 3.95
Arsenal - 9.85
Liverpool - 11.10
Bayern - 12.70
Barcelona - 13.10
PSG - 16.80

It is surprising that Arsenal is higher than Bayern, Barcelona and even PSG. It is also not clear why City is considered the favorite, Real is the record holder in this tournament, although I probably agree with this, City really played better than Real. Probably in this rating I disagree only with the position of Bayern and would raise it higher.

Bookmakers sometimes can be very surprising with their predictions but since they most times make their decisions based on statistics, we can't just fault them. I know Manchester City possess one of the best star-studded squads in the Europe but how on earth are they higher than Real Madrid in the favorites rankings? I refuse to accept that Manchester City stands a better chance of winning the UEFA Champions League ahead of Real Madrid. Also, I think Liverpool and Bayern Munich should be above Arsenal but let's see how the new season unfolds and see how right the bookmakers are

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City - 3.25
Real - 3.95
Arsenal - 9.85
Liverpool - 11.10
Bayern - 12.70
Barcelona - 13.10
PSG - 16.80

It is surprising that Arsenal is higher than Bayern, Barcelona and even PSG. It is also not clear why City is considered the favorite, Real is the record holder in this tournament, although I probably agree with this, City really played better than Real. Probably in this rating I disagree only with the position of Bayern and would raise it higher.

It is no surprise to me that Arsenal is higher than the three teams you mentioned. Arsenal has continued to improve in recent years. Bayern Munich and Barcelona are also in a transition period with new coaches, so it is natural that their rankings have dropped. PSG itself, we know they do not have the mentality in the Champions League, even though they once had a super luxurious squad but also failed in the Champions League and this season they lost Mbappe who has joined Real Madrid, of course their chances in the Champions League are increasingly not taken into account.

What surprises me is that Man City is always on top, and this is not the first time. If you look at the last three seasons, Man City has always been on top in this kind of prediction. I am confused by this prediction, Real Madrid is the king of the Champions League and they are also the defending champions, they even added strength in the front line but are still below Man City.

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ThisThis looks looks funny, though I can see that you really put too much hope on Real Madrid, although they are strong and they will be able to concur with any team that comes their way, but sometimes football is all about luck, although I know that how professional you are can also contribute, but still, at some point, luck plays its own role. Don't rush and give novices advice to always bet on Real Madrid at their own risk; it will be better if they do what they think will favor them.

Regardless of luck in football, when you’re good and have experience and also know how to play the game better, you’ll always be the most favored anytime you play and you’ll always win most of your matches. Real Madrid has gathered a lot of experience that you don’t need to doubt them anymore, they’re the best in their league and also the best in the champions league being the defending champions. When they play, we always assume that they’ll win the match and no other team can stand them. Luck also plays its role in football but luck still comes to those who try and try to put some effort into winning that’s the only way luck will work for them. Smaller teams are less lucky because efforts they put are minimal and they lack that experience unlike the big teams.

I don't know if there would ever be a time where I would be so confident and so assured of a team winning almost every game just as the way you are citing it to be. Real Madrid are very good and will mostly likely win their games but not all the games and that's something am certain of but the problem now is you can't actually tell that time that the fuck up will come which is why luck is still tied to this.

You can actually predict the possibility of a team that is likely going to win a competition based on the squad in the team, the previous performance of the team or the current form and performance of the team I believe that is the one what bettors can easily pick w particular team to likely win a game even before the start of the competition or match.

You have just supported Real Madrid now to be the favorite because you have noticed the form of the team and the players in the team right now that is the same way you can actually pick them to win a competition before the start of the competition. Luck also plays a vital role in football a team may be doing well but fine it difficult to win matches but if they are lucky they can win all their matches hence they are having a good performance.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on August 16, 2024, 09:49:53 AM

Now we are in playoff stage. Last 7 teams to join the CL league phase is going to be determined by this stage.

The draw:

Which ones are your favourites? Huh

Mine are Bodo/Glimt, Dinamo Zagreb, Midtjylland, Sparta Prague, Lille, Galatasaray and Salzburg.

In fact, I would really like to see Qarabag eliminating Dinamo Zagreb. I see them very impressive. You would remember their Europa League performance in the previous season.

They still look strong so an upset here might be possible maybe. I really hope that Galatasaray make it to league phase without problems. Young Boys look really weak recently.

It is pretty much the same for me - except Dinamo Zagreb. Wink

I expect a surprise to happen. Qarabag look very determined. Dinamo Zagreb are of course a team with much bigger CL experience. But there is never a guaranteed result in football or any sports.

I look forward to my team's game 4 days later. We are playing away against Young Boys. I hope we will win in the 1st leg already. But considering the way Turkish teams start their CL journey, maybe we might see a draw first. But I expect no other result than eliminating them. By the way our big win at Old Trafford last season is still in my mind. Roll Eyes

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ThisThis looks looks funny, though I can see that you really put too much hope on Real Madrid, although they are strong and they will be able to concur with any team that comes their way, but sometimes football is all about luck, although I know that how professional you are can also contribute, but still, at some point, luck plays its own role. Don't rush and give novices advice to always bet on Real Madrid at their own risk; it will be better if they do what they think will favor them.

Regardless of luck in football, when you’re good and have experience and also know how to play the game better, you’ll always be the most favored anytime you play and you’ll always win most of your matches. Real Madrid has gathered a lot of experience that you don’t need to doubt them anymore, they’re the best in their league and also the best in the champions league being the defending champions. When they play, we always assume that they’ll win the match and no other team can stand them. Luck also plays its role in football but luck still comes to those who try and try to put some effort into winning that’s the only way luck will work for them. Smaller teams are less lucky because efforts they put are minimal and they lack that experience unlike the big teams.

I don't know if there would ever be a time where I would be so confident and so assured of a team winning almost every game just as the way you are citing it to be. Real Madrid are very good and will mostly likely win their games but not all the games and that's something am certain of but the problem now is you can't actually tell that time that the fuck up will come which is why luck is still tied to this.

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These are the 14 clubs that are in the final round to compete for the 7 remaining places in the Champions League. They will play 2 legs of the match which they must maximize very well if they want to be one of the competitors in the Champions League this season. They will also feel the transition from the old format to the new format applied in the Champions League. This must be tiring for them, because they have to continue to compete for the 7 remaining tickets.

It is also quite difficult to determine which clubs will succeed in advancing, because each club that will face each other can also be said to be balanced. Also, several matches bring together clubs that are used to being in the Champions League. In your opinion, which clubs will succeed in winning this match?

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Quote from: Dzwaafu11 on August 16, 2024, 04:16:38 PM

ThisThis looks looks funny, though I can see that you really put too much hope on Real Madrid, although they are strong and they will be able to concur with any team that comes their way, but sometimes football is all about luck, although I know that how professional you are can also contribute, but still, at some point, luck plays its own role. Don't rush and give novices advice to always bet on Real Madrid at their own risk; it will be better if they do what they think will favor them.

Regardless of luck in football, when you’re good and have experience and also know how to play the game better, you’ll always be the most favored anytime you play and you’ll always win most of your matches. Real Madrid has gathered a lot of experience that you don’t need to doubt them anymore, they’re the best in their league and also the best in the champions league being the defending champions. When they play, we always assume that they’ll win the match and no other team can stand them. Luck also plays its role in football but luck still comes to those who try and try to put some effort into winning that’s the only way luck will work for them. Smaller teams are less lucky because efforts they put are minimal and they lack that experience unlike the big teams.

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City - 3.25
Real - 3.95
Arsenal - 9.85
Liverpool - 11.10
Bayern - 12.70
Barcelona - 13.10
PSG - 16.80

Odds that are not too different from last season where last season the position was almost the same where Manchester City and Madrid remained the favorites for this competition and I think it is quite reasonable for the odds of several other big clubs even though they are also big clubs but for the Champions League we can actually see the difference where other clubs are below Madrid and Manchester City especially with the condition of several clubs such as Barcelona, PSG and Bayern which this season they are in a transition phase with their internal then their odds are not surprising. But in this case we cannot close the fact that there are always surprises that occur just like 2 seasons ago Inter and Dortmund who were in the final this is still possible to happen.

It is not strange that Real Madrid and Manchester City are the favorites with the smallest odds, showing that their chances are much greater to get a victory, with the players they have today certainly very confident to be able to compete until the final line, these two have always been strong candidates.

Anything can happen during the journey of a season ahead, whether it's injury, internal conflict and make a team experience a setback in terms of performance and also do not rule out the possibility of strength awakening from a team that we cannot imagine like Dortmund last season, people do not expect that far, but that's how the competition goes, there are always surprises.

What I am surprised at is why Manchester City is the number one according to the bookmakers because to me, I see Real Madrid having a better advantage of winning UCL that Manchester city and I do3need anyone to tell me that.

However, I believe that no one is perfect and as time passes by the odds will be changing na sed on the performance of the clubs. I think it will be another victorious season for Madrid because of the superb squad in their team, it will be difficult for any club to win them.

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