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January 09, 2025, 10:45:37 AM
Maybe Manchester City shouldn't really care about what they could do with Champions League, they do not really look like they are going to do anyways, so maybe that shouldn't be the case here at all. Maybe they should only focus on premier league games. I do not know if they are still at EFL or FA as well but they should be out of it so we need to consider how they need to ONLY focus on premier league, that would be a lot better for them. I am not saying this is the only way, of course they could try their best but that doesn't mean that we are going to see this happening all that quickly but unfortunately City will end up being a bit more difficult and different in the end as well.

So all in all I believe we could be considering City being in top four of premier league as much more important. Just focus on that, they look like they are doing better for the last two games, just do that and I am sure they will be fine.
I think Guardiola will be focused on both the Premier League and the Champions League, maybe he already realizes that City can't win the Premier League, all they can achieve is top 4, but they can try to win the Champions League. It won't be easy and considering how difficult this season is for them, this task seems very difficult too, but I know that Guardiola is a maximalist and he will try to achieve the maximum result by the end of the season.

But before that, they have to play a very important and difficult match with PSG, as Guardiola likes to say, one step at a time, you don't need to look too far, for now it is important to win the next match.
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January 09, 2025, 10:45:08 AM
Maybe Manchester City shouldn't really care about what they could do with Champions League, they do not really look like they are going to do anyways, so maybe that shouldn't be the case here at all. Maybe they should only focus on premier league games. I do not know if they are still at EFL or FA as well but they should be out of it so we need to consider how they need to ONLY focus on premier league, that would be a lot better for them. I am not saying this is the only way, of course they could try their best but that doesn't mean that we are going to see this happening all that quickly but unfortunately City will end up being a bit more difficult and different in the end as well.

So all in all I believe we could be considering City being in top four of premier league as much more important. Just focus on that, they look like they are doing better for the last two games, just do that and I am sure they will be fine.
I don't know why you can think if manchester city is not too focused on the UCL and only focus on domestic league this season, because I personally think if what you say is true then it's a foolishness for guardiola, because actually they should focus more on the UCL than the domestic league this season, Currently their position in the domestic league is fairly impossible not only to become champions even to end the season only in the UCL zone will be very difficult for them with their current conditions and situations, so it is indeed better for Guardiola to more focus on his target in the UCL at this time, although indeed the UCL is also difficult but if they manage to qualify for the knockout phase then actually their hopes of winning the trophy are clearly greater in the UCL than the EPL this season.
Gaurdiolla doesn't have any focus if he says he is focusing on premier league or championship league. He should pursue the two and which ever gives him a higher chance of winning then he can channel his full energy there. Gaurdiolla might end up with nothing this season because the competition has gone beyond what he can salvage at the moment.


De best Gaurdiolla should do is just try to make the champions league games the will play fun and entertaining and as for the premier league fight harder to collect champions League ticket for next season then then come back next season to compete for the champions League title.
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January 09, 2025, 10:08:02 AM
Maybe Manchester City shouldn't really care about what they could do with Champions League, they do not really look like they are going to do anyways, so maybe that shouldn't be the case here at all. Maybe they should only focus on premier league games. I do not know if they are still at EFL or FA as well but they should be out of it so we need to consider how they need to ONLY focus on premier league, that would be a lot better for them. I am not saying this is the only way, of course they could try their best but that doesn't mean that we are going to see this happening all that quickly but unfortunately City will end up being a bit more difficult and different in the end as well.

So all in all I believe we could be considering City being in top four of premier league as much more important. Just focus on that, they look like they are doing better for the last two games, just do that and I am sure they will be fine.
I don't know why you can think if manchester city is not too focused on the UCL and only focus on domestic league this season, because I personally think if what you say is true then it's a foolishness for guardiola, because actually they should focus more on the UCL than the domestic league this season, Currently their position in the domestic league is fairly impossible not only to become champions even to end the season only in the UCL zone will be very difficult for them with their current conditions and situations, so it is indeed better for Guardiola to more focus on his target in the UCL at this time, although indeed the UCL is also difficult but if they manage to qualify for the knockout phase then actually their hopes of winning the trophy are clearly greater in the UCL than the EPL this season.
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January 09, 2025, 09:46:10 AM
From now on, everyone can assess the abilities and strengths of each team that is still in the Champions League competition, especially when entering the playoff round and also the last 16 which will generally be much more competitive than the current round. And for the example of the team you said, it is true that not all teams can be good in the UCL competition even though the team is still very good in its own domestic league by occupying the top position and becoming a candidate for champion.
Looking at the current UEFA Champions League standings, it seems difficult to avoid super big matches between top teams facing each other in the playoffs due most of the top teams outside from the top eight position standings.
Manchester City, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Atletico Madrid and PSG have fight for securing the playoff round spot place behind difficulty reach the directly qualifying to knock out round due losing many points at phase league matches.

Have consistent performance at domestic league can't guarantee easy reach the higher standings position in UEFA Champion League, PSG reach the top standings in domestic league have losses from Brest or Lille due their current standings at the top eight with directly qualifying to knock out round, difference with PSG have to fight at two matches left against Manchester City and Frankfurt if want reach the playoff round spot place because reaching the top 8th standings have been over for PSG.
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January 09, 2025, 08:35:55 AM
Is natural that there is such response because in reality not all team in the UCL competition are really strong team, it is true that they are the best team from the domestic League that get tickets to play in this competition but some team in the domestic League that qualify are not necessarily able to play well, such as PSG for example and there are also several other team from less popular League.
Everyone will have their own way of assessing team and even the quality of competition, as long as the competing team are strong here I think it will still be quality and competitive match.
From now on, everyone can assess the abilities and strengths of each team that is still in the Champions League competition, especially when entering the playoff round and also the last 16 which will generally be much more competitive than the current round. And for the example of the team you said, it is true that not all teams can be good in the UCL competition even though the team is still very good in its own domestic league by occupying the top position and becoming a candidate for champion.
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January 09, 2025, 08:20:57 AM
Maybe Manchester City shouldn't really care about what they could do with Champions League, they do not really look like they are going to do anyways, so maybe that shouldn't be the case here at all. Maybe they should only focus on premier league games. I do not know if they are still at EFL or FA as well but they should be out of it so we need to consider how they need to ONLY focus on premier league, that would be a lot better for them. I am not saying this is the only way, of course they could try their best but that doesn't mean that we are going to see this happening all that quickly but unfortunately City will end up being a bit more difficult and different in the end as well.

So all in all I believe we could be considering City being in top four of premier league as much more important. Just focus on that, they look like they are doing better for the last two games, just do that and I am sure they will be fine.

Imagine Pep Guardiola gives an interview after talking to his team and announces that the glorious club Manchester City has officially decided to give a shit about the Champions League, do you have an idea what is going to happen next? Do you have an idea what the fans will say? Or the Manchester City bosses? The players themselves?

This is a statement that many of the posters here in the gambling discussion area have made plenty of times. A club should only focus on one competition and let the other competitions just fade away. As if there is any truth to such a statement and as if any coach, and Guardiola in particular, would give away a competition as prestigious as the Champions League while all chances to win it are still there.

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January 09, 2025, 08:20:12 AM
Seeing how bad Manchester City game on the field this season, we cannot close our eyes that the problems facing Manchester City are very heavy, plus the absence of several core players such as Rodri, of course this adds to the difficulties for Manchester City, because Rodri himself is one of the keys to victory in previous matches, as well as Manchester City defence which is considered less strong so that opponents easily break through the back line to score goals, Erling Haaland himself is a talented player, we know that. but it is very unlikely to win the match just by relying on a few players.
Manchester City is having tough time on field this season and it is hard to ignore. One of main reasons is that some important players like Rodri are not playing. Rodri was key player in their past wins. Also Manchester City defense is not strong and other teams are easily scoring against them. Erling Haaland is very good player but relying only on him and few others is not enough to win games. Manchester City needs all its players to work together and come up with new strategies to fix their problems and start playing well again.
It's a good opportunity for the coach to introduce some new players into squad to help strengthen the team, it is obvious that the Manchester city squad has some ageing players and at such the struggles of the team may still persist because most of these players are seemingly worn-out and needs to be replaced, and aside from replacing the ageing ones there is also the case of the injured players like Rodri who plays in the defensive midfield area whose vacuum is still vacant even with the presence of the formers Chelsea player Kovacic who was brought in to fill in the gap yet the absence of the Spaniard is still felt, that's why I think the club should for new quality players.
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January 09, 2025, 08:00:33 AM
Rodri's injury was the main setback that affected Manchester City. Pep Guardiola has a culture of working with few players and this has affected their performance since some key players sustained injuries or started experiencing performance decline. The club seems to have started recovering but we hope this winning run will be consistent.   
True and that is one of the factors that makes Man City experience a decrease in overall performance. In addition, the De Bruyne factor so far his performance has been much down compared to the previous season that Man City looks so difficult to win the match. Now the conditions are much better and may need some concrete changes that need to be made by Pep Guardiola to make Man City much more consistent.

The match in the Champions League will face PSG and Club Brugge so that these two matches are grades quite important for Pep Guardiola and Man City to make sure to get full points to make them qualify must the next round without depending on the club's results below them
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January 09, 2025, 07:54:15 AM
I also think so, overall Real Madrid's performance this season is very inconsistent and also the matches in UCL cannot be underestimated especially overall the strength of RB Salzburg and Brest is not that bad this season so it is also possible for RB Salzburg and Brest to make a surprise when playing against Real Madrid later.
I think everything is possible in the remaining 2 UCL matches before the playoffs later and I think Real Madrid cannot be favored excessively.

One thing that should on check in this last two matches left by every team, even those teams that are looking not too strong and playing against the big teams will also be fighting in order to get a spot in the playoffs even though they can’t make it to the next round directly. Playing in the playoffs will be like a big record to them than it will be for this big teams, so all big teams trying to survive this stage to the next round will be more careful in the remaining matches. Their fixtures may look very cheap but in reality of the champions league, no need can be underestimated and they should play and treat all teams equal if they really want to go far in this competition.

The point is, we won't know what will happen later because RB Salzburg and Brest certainly cannot be taken lightly because of course the UCL team is the best team from the results of a strict selection, so it's true that we can't overestimate because it could be RB. Salzburg and Brest provided surprises, for example, which made Real Madrid lose. Yes, the point is that all teams will definitely fight as hard as they can to win and of course we'll see what happens. Of course, for Brest and RB Salzburg it is a matter of pride to be able to play in the play-off round even if for example they don't qualify for the last 16.

but it looks like in the next match Real Madrid will play against RB Salzburg so I will bet on Real Madrid winning but if Real Madrid lose to RB Salzburg in the next match against Brest I will bet on Brest winning but it seems like my gut feeling says that Real Madrid will win against RB Salzburg even though I also know that there could be surprises in that match and of course we'll see what happens. But if, for example, Real Madrid loses, it seems certain that people's confidence in Real Madrid's strength will fade and Ancelotti and Real Madrid will definitely be sad.

Now Real Madrid is ranked 20th. Honestly, I didn't expect Real Madrid's fate to be like this, but I hope that Real Madrid can continue to win from now on and can finally get a place in the top 16.
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January 09, 2025, 07:24:29 AM
Real Madrid won't have any issues at all if you ask me, they will play Brest and Salzburg so it should be possible for them to even go into top 8. Of course it is going to be very difficult, probably not even possible at all. But right now, they are at 9 points, and eight team is Lille with 13 points, with even teams at 3rd team Arsenal has 13 points as well, so if Real Madrid wins both games then they will get six points, and will be 15 points as well which is good enough to be top eight right now.

But of course Real Madrid is 20th right now, so that means there are a lot of teams that can do better, and that's why I highly doubt that we are going to end up with a result any different at all. I believe we could see them at least easily be in top 24 and not have a worry that seems like the most important part of this. I can see how this could be a different result in most cases but this doesn't mean that we are going to see them be happy about it neither.
The opportunity to move up to 8th place at the end of this phase is possible if you succeed in winning the last two matches. but the problem is that the teams currently in the top 8 will also try to collect points so it will still be difficult. Real Madrid's chances are more likely to only reach the play-off round and qualify for the next stage by winning the play-off round.

Brest and RB Salzburg may not be strong teams like Real Madrid but surprises can happen. Moreover, Brest is a team that is quite surprising this season and I don't think we should be surprised if it turns out that Brest can hold Real Madrid to a draw. but beating Real Madrid seems difficult. But regarding RB Salzburg, I don't think they will be able to win the match against Real Madrid.
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January 09, 2025, 06:27:28 AM
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No match looks cheap, such a notion in relation to clubs that play in the Champions League seems incorrect to me. Every club that competes in the Champions League has qualified for this tournament by winning or vice-championship within their championship, it certainly cannot be called cheap or moreover to call such a team weak, it is simply incorrect. Just within the Champions League teams of completely different levels and each team looks different against the background of the other team
Is natural that there is such response because in reality not all team in the UCL competition are really strong team, it is true that they are the best team from the domestic League that get tickets to play in this competition but some team in the domestic League that qualify are not necessarily able to play well, such as PSG for example and there are also several other team from less popular League.
Everyone will have their own way of assessing team and even the quality of competition, as long as the competing team are strong here I think it will still be quality and competitive match.
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January 09, 2025, 03:28:43 AM
Real Madrid won't have any issues at all if you ask me, they will play Brest and Salzburg so it should be possible for them to even go into top 8. Of course it is going to be very difficult, probably not even possible at all. But right now, they are at 9 points, and eight team is Lille with 13 points, with even teams at 3rd team Arsenal has 13 points as well, so if Real Madrid wins both games then they will get six points, and will be 15 points as well which is good enough to be top eight right now.

But of course Real Madrid is 20th right now, so that means there are a lot of teams that can do better, and that's why I highly doubt that we are going to end up with a result any different at all. I believe we could see them at least easily be in top 24 and not have a worry that seems like the most important part of this. I can see how this could be a different result in most cases but this doesn't mean that we are going to see them be happy about it neither.
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January 09, 2025, 03:09:13 AM
One thing that should on check in this last two matches left by every team, even those teams that are looking not too strong and playing against the big teams will also be fighting in order to get a spot in the playoffs even though they can’t make it to the next round directly. Playing in the playoffs will be like a big record to them than it will be for this big teams, so all big teams trying to survive this stage to the next round will be more careful in the remaining matches. Their fixtures may look very cheap but in reality of the champions league, no need can be underestimated and they should play and treat all teams equal if they really want to go far in this competition.
I have to agree with you because in the Champions League there is no team that can be underestimated. Because all the teams that get tickets to the Champions League are teams that have fought very hard in their respective domestic leagues. So they won't give up easily. And it's possible that in the last two matches there will be surprises that could cause a team that is considered strong to lose.
Because this is UCL, unexpected things often happen here and that is something that is considered normal at UCL. because even ordinary teams can sometimes go further than other strong teams.
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January 09, 2025, 02:28:50 AM
Erling Haaland is starting to have difficulty scoring goals because De Bruyne's performance may have declined slightly, resulting in the flow of the ball for Erling Haaland stopping. But when facing West Ham, he managed to score two goals for Man City's victory and hopefully this will be a turning point for him and the team.

Manchester city is too big of a club to be depending on only one player to be supplying the ball to the goal scorers, I thought they had Phil Foden that could give assists and other players too. What I think happened was just Pep Guardiola losing control of his creative mind and there was nothing new that he could coach the players on and this cause the whole bad form that the club was on as you can't say it was only De Bruyne absence that cause the decline in the club. Some individual say it's the absence of Rodri that's causing the club to be in bad form therefore everybody has their own theory but atleast all that will be over soon as the players are regaining their form.
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January 09, 2025, 01:25:32 AM
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One thing i have always pointed out with the Manchester city team is the fact that Erling Haaland isn't a very skillful player, he's not a play maker, he's just good at scoring goals so basically i see him as a goal scorer or a finisher especially when it happens that he's got good assistance from his team mates such as Kevin d bruyne. if there be a good replacement in the main time to help Haaland, most likely he is going to be able to score goals again as he has been doing much earlier before now.
Manchester City need a reliable playmaker like Toni Kroos, Xavi and Iniesta who can control the rhythm of the match and create chances through one-two passes to make it easier for Haaland to score goals. It was all clear when KDB and Rodri were injured, Man City seemed to lose their balance and winning became something that was difficult to achieve. Haaland needs someone who can serve him in scoring goals because he only has the ability as a finisher.
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January 09, 2025, 12:41:33 AM
Maybe Manchester City shouldn't really care about what they could do with Champions League, they do not really look like they are going to do anyways, so maybe that shouldn't be the case here at all. Maybe they should only focus on premier league games. I do not know if they are still at EFL or FA as well but they should be out of it so we need to consider how they need to ONLY focus on premier league, that would be a lot better for them. I am not saying this is the only way, of course they could try their best but that doesn't mean that we are going to see this happening all that quickly but unfortunately City will end up being a bit more difficult and different in the end as well.

So all in all I believe we could be considering City being in top four of premier league as much more important. Just focus on that, they look like they are doing better for the last two games, just do that and I am sure they will be fine.
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January 08, 2025, 08:12:32 PM
I also think so, overall Real Madrid's performance this season is very inconsistent and also the matches in UCL cannot be underestimated especially overall the strength of RB Salzburg and Brest is not that bad this season so it is also possible for RB Salzburg and Brest to make a surprise when playing against Real Madrid later.
I think everything is possible in the remaining 2 UCL matches before the playoffs later and I think Real Madrid cannot be favored excessively.
Looking at Real Madrid's current performance I agree with you that we cannot favor Real Madrid in every match. Real Madrid is inconsistent this season but in La Liga their performance is not that bad. They are still consistent in the top ranking with only 2 defeats. But their performance is indeed inconsistent in UCL with 3 wins and 3 defeats. They are in 20th place in UCL and their position can be taken by any team in the ranking below them. The difference in points in the UCL standings is very thin with only 1 or 2 points. But if you look at Real Madrid's mentality I am sure they will qualify for the next round even through the playoffs. I think we have often seen Real Madrid make an extraordinary comeback like in the match against Valencia.
Real Madrid had a poor performance in the Champions League but that was in the beginning but later they came back brilliantly in the Champions League so now you can count on Real Madrid. If Real Madrid can't be trusted in the Champions League, I don't see any other team that I can trust more than Real Madrid. The teams that did well in the Champions League last season, we didn't see good performances from the teams at the start of this season and we felt that this season might be a bit of a mess. However, Real Madrid returns to good performance and still shows the hope of Madrid fans. I am only worried about whether Manchester City or Bayern Munich will be able to perform in the Champions League like they did last season.
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January 08, 2025, 05:32:33 PM
This season Manchester City has faced many obstacles and difficulties, both in the Premier League and the UCL. This absence of key players has made Manchester City's situation worse in the competition. not only using Erling Haaland as the key in the game. I think a coach must look for a new solution for City to return to its glory.
The decline in Man City's team performance cannot be separated from the injuries of several important players in the squad and also cannot be separated from De Bruyne's performance who has experienced a decline in performance as a field general. In the last two matches, they have started to find their best form, although they may not be consistent in the future, but this should be the first step for them to fix all the shortcomings that have occurred this season, both in the Champions League and in the Premier League.

Erling Haaland is starting to have difficulty scoring goals because De Bruyne's performance may have declined slightly, resulting in the flow of the ball for Erling Haaland stopping. But when facing West Ham, he managed to score two goals for Man City's victory and hopefully this will be a turning point for him and the team.
One thing i have always pointed out with the Manchester city team is the fact that Erling Haaland isn't a very skillful player, he's not a play maker, he's just good at scoring goals so basically i see him as a goal scorer or a finisher especially when it happens that he's got good assistance from his team mates such as Kevin d bruyne. if there be a good replacement in the main time to help Haaland, most likely he is going to be able to score goals again as he has been doing much earlier before now.
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January 08, 2025, 05:29:05 PM
Looking at Real Madrid's current performance I agree with you that we cannot favor Real Madrid in every match. Real Madrid is inconsistent this season but in La Liga their performance is not that bad. They are still consistent in the top ranking with only 2 defeats. But their performance is indeed inconsistent in UCL with 3 wins and 3 defeats. They are in 20th place in UCL and their position can be taken by any team in the ranking below them. The difference in points in the UCL standings is very thin with only 1 or 2 points. But if you look at Real Madrid's mentality I am sure they will qualify for the next round even through the playoffs. I think we have often seen Real Madrid make an extraordinary comeback like in the match against Valencia.
That’s just the facts about Real Madrid performance in this champion league their performance look unserious compared to how the there make a strong performed in the La Liga, but my own view of thinking is that may be they’ve more interest on the La Liga then others leagues that’s why they put much efforts in that league.

The best thing for Real Madrid team to do is that they should go and face the La Liga, instead of them should be wasting their time and energy in the champions league and their performance is didn’t improve anymore; look at then in table they far left behind.
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January 08, 2025, 04:43:02 PM
I also think so, overall Real Madrid's performance this season is very inconsistent and also the matches in UCL cannot be underestimated especially overall the strength of RB Salzburg and Brest is not that bad this season so it is also possible for RB Salzburg and Brest to make a surprise when playing against Real Madrid later.
I think everything is possible in the remaining 2 UCL matches before the playoffs later and I think Real Madrid cannot be favored excessively.

One thing that should on check in this last two matches left by every team, even those teams that are looking not too strong and playing against the big teams will also be fighting in order to get a spot in the playoffs even though they can’t make it to the next round directly. Playing in the playoffs will be like a big record to them than it will be for this big teams, so all big teams trying to survive this stage to the next round will be more careful in the remaining matches. Their fixtures may look very cheap but in reality of the champions league, no need can be underestimated and they should play and treat all teams equal if they really want to go far in this competition.

No match looks cheap, such a notion in relation to clubs that play in the Champions League seems incorrect to me. Every club that competes in the Champions League has qualified for this tournament by winning or vice-championship within their championship, it certainly cannot be called cheap or moreover to call such a team weak, it is simply incorrect. Just within the Champions League teams of completely different levels and each team looks different against the background of the other team
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