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August 17, 2024, 01:03:56 PM

City - 3.25
Real - 3.95
Arsenal - 9.85
Liverpool - 11.10
Bayern - 12.70
Barcelona - 13.10
PSG - 16.80

Odds that are not too different from last season where last season the position was almost the same where Manchester City and Madrid remained the favorites for this competition and I think it is quite reasonable for the odds of several other big clubs even though they are also big clubs but for the Champions League we can actually see the difference where other clubs are below Madrid and Manchester City especially with the condition of several clubs such as Barcelona, ​​PSG and Bayern which this season they are in a transition phase with their internal then their odds are not surprising. But in this case we cannot close the fact that there are always surprises that occur just like 2 seasons ago Inter and Dortmund who were in the final this is still possible to happen.
It is not strange that Real Madrid and Manchester City are the favorites with the smallest odds, showing that their chances are much greater to get a victory, with the players they have today certainly very confident to be able to compete until the final line, these two have always been strong candidates.

Anything can happen during the journey of a season ahead, whether it's injury, internal conflict and make a team experience a setback in terms of performance and also do not rule out the possibility of strength awakening from a team that we cannot imagine like Dortmund last season, people do not expect that far, but that's how the competition goes, there are always surprises.
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August 17, 2024, 12:54:18 PM
City - 3.25
Real - 3.95
Arsenal - 9.85
Liverpool - 11.10
Bayern - 12.70
Barcelona - 13.10
PSG - 16.80

It is surprising that Arsenal is higher than Bayern, Barcelona and even PSG. It is also not clear why City is considered the favorite, Real is the record holder in this tournament, although I probably agree with this, City really played better than Real. Probably in this rating I disagree only with the position of Bayern and would raise it higher.
The Champions League is still very far away, but currently there are many predictions that favor a team as champions next season, but the funny thing is that the existing predictions often make us shake our heads at this time, I think the predictions put forward by many parties are not valid without  consideration and also an accurate reference for now, to be honest, it seems like they haven't learned from what happened last season when many parties favored Manchester City to win, but instead they had to stop their journey early in the Champions League.
Seeing the predictions mentioned above made me laugh and I don't know what the reason is that Manchester City is more worthy of winning the Champions League after seeing Madrid have perfect squad at the moment, Apart from that, I don't think Arsenal is better than Bayern Munich or even PSG at the moment.
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August 17, 2024, 12:53:50 PM
A Real Madrid fan since childhood, he dreamed of playing for Real Madrid and has now fulfilled that dream, even though it took a lot of drama to get to Los Blancos because of PSG's refusal to sell.
When he is at Real Madrid it will be easy to win many titles, starting from LaLiga, Copa Del Rey, Champion League and finally the EUFA Super Cup that has been won for him.
A myriad of talented players are now at Real Madrid, and this is the most favored club to win the Champions League this season, yes it could be coming to its 16th time trophy.

Maybe it will be so, at least the beginning for him was really easy, the first official match and he won the UEFA Super Cup. Maybe in the new season he will be able to win the Champions League, but it is too early to talk about it, I looked at the odds and they look like this:

City - 3.25
Real - 3.95
Arsenal - 9.85
Liverpool - 11.10
Bayern - 12.70
Barcelona - 13.10
PSG - 16.80

It is surprising that Arsenal is higher than Bayern, Barcelona and even PSG. It is also not clear why City is considered the favorite, Real is the record holder in this tournament, although I probably agree with this, City really played better than Real. Probably in this rating I disagree only with the position of Bayern and would raise it higher.
What is even surprising to me is the fact that the odds for Manchester city is lower than that of Real Madrid, which means Manchester city are likely to win the championship league over Real Madrid. For me, Madrid would have been placed on 3.25, i don't see much dominance that CITY has when it comes to champions league, unlike Bayern Munich, who are regular champions league team that always show prowess.The odds for arsenal is okay with me, considering how faithful they've shown their strength in the last two seasons, I really see them as a strong contender this time around because they have what it takes.
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August 17, 2024, 12:33:27 PM
It's clear that Real Madrid should be the most likely to defend their trophy. But, as you said, it's weird they got second, not first. Prob Pep's factor is the reason why we're still seeing City at the first place. Also, the funny thing is that Arsenal is more favored. They have smaller odds than Munich, which beat them last season. But the only acceptable reason is probably due to the new coach of Bayern Munich. Still, this looks so strange.
All of that can still change when the season starts because for me it is also not right to put Real Madrid in second place after what Real Madrid achieved last season and also with the current Real Madrid squad. If it is because Pep is still coaching Manchester City, I think it is also not wrong if we consider Ancelotti as a good coach for Real Madrid so that every Real Madrid player is able to play the way he gives. We can see an example when Real Madrid beat Atalanta where in the first half Real Madrid did not play well enough, but in the second half everything changed and Madrid became a team that was able to win.
Yes, I also find it a bit strange when Manchester City is still in first place as the team with the greatest chance of becoming champions, yes, even though the difference is small. Maybe one of the reasons is because Manchester City is considered a team that has been together for a long time, and the players in their squad are still more experienced than Real Madrid. Currently, Real Madrid is dominated by young players, although they are very good players, in terms of experience they are still not better than Manchester City. I hope this does not become a benchmark that these odds will really happen, because in fact in football there is always something that changes. Last season, Manchester City was the team with the greatest chance, but Real Madrid became champions or in other words the odds do not guarantee that success will come to the team with the greatest chance.
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August 17, 2024, 11:46:25 AM
Odds that are not too different from last season where last season the position was almost the same where Manchester City and Madrid remained the favorites for this competition and I think it is quite reasonable for the odds of several other big clubs even though they are also big clubs but for the Champions League we can actually see the difference where other clubs are below Madrid and Manchester City especially with the condition of several clubs such as Barcelona, ​​PSG and Bayern which this season they are in a transition phase with their internal then their odds are not surprising. But in this case we cannot close the fact that there are always surprises that occur just like 2 seasons ago Inter and Dortmund who were in the final this is still possible to happen.
You are right and it is very reasonable considering that Manchester City is the champion of the 2022/23 UCL season and Real Madrid is the champion of last season, besides that Manchester City also still has fairly solid squad with all their main players who can still be relied on.
Bookie sees the potential of each team to be able to provide opportunities for several big team that will take part in the UCL competition, Manchester City and Real Madrid are both team with main squads filled with star players who clearly have above average playing skills, from here both are made as superior team.
Conditions like this are what usually confuse gamblers who will choose their favorite team between the two to win the title this season.

Because the initial benchmark remains in Madrid and Mancehster City because if you reflect on the last few seasons that have occurred, whoever the club that wins when Madrid and Manchester City compete, they are the champions and that is proven in the last 3 seasons where they always meet whether it's in the quarter-finals or semi-finals and the winners always become champions in the Champions League so it is quite natural that this is a benchmark in the odds this time.
But in this case actually I as a gambler am not too interested if this is used as betting material because seeing the time we need to consider until the end of the season is actually not worth it betting to determine who will be the champion in both domestic competitions and big competitions such as the Champions League and Europa League because it is just a waste of time for small bets. I'd rather bet every week than have to bet and wait until the end of the season to see who the champion is.
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August 17, 2024, 11:37:32 AM
City - 3.25
Real - 3.95
Arsenal - 9.85
Liverpool - 11.10
Bayern - 12.70
Barcelona - 13.10
PSG - 16.80

It is surprising that Arsenal is higher than Bayern, Barcelona and even PSG. It is also not clear why City is considered the favorite, Real is the record holder in this tournament, although I probably agree with this, City really played better than Real. Probably in this rating I disagree only with the position of Bayern and would raise it higher.
I am disappointed with these odds, why is City placed above Real Madrid, we know Los Blancos are the holders of the most UCL trophies. Last season they came out as champions. and this season they have Mbappe who has sharpened their attack line. Yes I understand on paper Man City is better in the game shown, but on the field Real Madrid shows a winning mentality.

Another thing I am not surprised about Arsenal. Under Arteta they have shown good development for two seasons, their chances are far superior to Liverpool and Bayern, I agree,
but looking at Barcelona, ​​​​they are not favored this season, it is natural to see that they maximize young players. it will be difficult to compete
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August 17, 2024, 11:04:05 AM
It's clear that Real Madrid should be the most likely to defend their trophy. But, as you said, it's weird they got second, not first. Prob Pep's factor is the reason why we're still seeing City at the first place. Also, the funny thing is that Arsenal is more favored. They have smaller odds than Munich, which beat them last season. But the only acceptable reason is probably due to the new coach of Bayern Munich. Still, this looks so strange.
All of that can still change when the season starts because for me it is also not right to put Real Madrid in second place after what Real Madrid achieved last season and also with the current Real Madrid squad. If it is because Pep is still coaching Manchester City, I think it is also not wrong if we consider Ancelotti as a good coach for Real Madrid so that every Real Madrid player is able to play the way he gives. We can see an example when Real Madrid beat Atalanta where in the first half Real Madrid did not play well enough, but in the second half everything changed and Madrid became a team that was able to win.

But indeed, as time goes by there will also be a difference and maybe it will also give other teams a good chance too. Because, as time goes by, it is very likely that any team will get an injury to its main player or perhaps other factors that will affect the team's performance throughout this season. Because after all, this position is also just a sequence based on the odds they have at this moment, and as a bettor you will of course have risks as time goes by throughout this season.

So yes, I think maybe for now it won't be a problem if Manchester City is the favorite team. Because of that, of course it would be a good moment for us if we wanted to choose Real Madrid, which would still get better odds than choosing Manchester City. Thus, this is a moment for us to get good odds to determine the team of choice that has the chance to win the trophy this season.
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August 17, 2024, 11:01:11 AM
City - 3.25
Real - 3.95
Arsenal - 9.85
Liverpool - 11.10
Bayern - 12.70
Barcelona - 13.10
PSG - 16.80

It is surprising that Arsenal is higher than Bayern, Barcelona and even PSG. It is also not clear why City is considered the favorite, Real is the record holder in this tournament, although I probably agree with this, City really played better than Real. Probably in this rating I disagree only with the position of Bayern and would raise it higher.
According to this odds from this bookmakers, Arsenal is the third favorite teams after Madrid and Manchester City. They make the prediction based on assumption and consider Madrid and City first because of their their experience and their squad quality. Arsenal to be ranked ahead of Bayern Munich , PSG, and Liverpool can be because of their current squad especially their defensive quality, and their last two seasons performances in their domestic League which is the EPL.
Nevertheless, anything can happen because the teams we are expecting to be the champions might end up not performing well or unluckily get eliminated along the line especially if they are both paired together when the competition advances to either knockout stage of quarterfinals.
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August 17, 2024, 10:52:55 AM

City - 3.25
Real - 3.95
Arsenal - 9.85
Liverpool - 11.10
Bayern - 12.70
Barcelona - 13.10
PSG - 16.80

Odds that are not too different from last season where last season the position was almost the same where Manchester City and Madrid remained the favorites for this competition and I think it is quite reasonable for the odds of several other big clubs even though they are also big clubs but for the Champions League we can actually see the difference where other clubs are below Madrid and Manchester City especially with the condition of several clubs such as Barcelona, ​​PSG and Bayern which this season they are in a transition phase with their internal then their odds are not surprising. But in this case we cannot close the fact that there are always surprises that occur just like 2 seasons ago Inter and Dortmund who were in the final this is still possible to happen.


Yes you are right if the odds are a bit similar to last season even Man City remains the favorite like last season.
While it is very clear that Real Madrid has a greater chance of winning the title again because the arrival of Mbappe gives greater strength to Real Madrid's attack line.
Maybe I am too serious about seeing the situation but I also agree that surprises can happen anytime in the UCL and it seems like I have 3 choices right now between Real Madrid, Man City or Inter Milan.
Some people may be a little surprised to see my choice regarding Inter Milan because for me Inter Milan deserves to be a strong candidate because they still have some mainstay players without making major changes and even still have the same coach.
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August 17, 2024, 10:48:09 AM
I looked at the odds and they look like this:

City - 3.25
Real - 3.95
Arsenal - 9.85
Liverpool - 11.10
Bayern - 12.70
Barcelona - 13.10
PSG - 16.80

It is surprising that Arsenal is higher than Bayern, Barcelona and even PSG. It is also not clear why City is considered the favorite, Real is the record holder in this tournament, although I probably agree with this, City really played better than Real. Probably in this rating I disagree only with the position of Bayern and would raise it higher.

If this is really the actual odds of the bookmakers as regards to the possibility of each of the teams winning the Champions League then I feel there are some errors especially in the position of Manchester City and Arsenal, we all know that the Madrid team looks better than that of Manchester City let's just remove the sentiment of Madrid being the best club in the champions league so I still prefer they accord Real Madrid the respect of giving them the lower odds as against the rest of the teams, then in place of Arsenal should have been Liverpool because even though Arsenal have proven to be better than Liverpool in recent years but I believe Liverpool has more Champions League experience than Arsenal of which they already had some champions league trophies then the rest of the teams are okay with the odds and their line up by the bookmakers.
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August 17, 2024, 10:26:29 AM
City - 3.25
Real - 3.95
Arsenal - 9.85
Liverpool - 11.10
Bayern - 12.70
Barcelona - 13.10
PSG - 16.80

It is surprising that Arsenal is higher than Bayern, Barcelona and even PSG. It is also not clear why City is considered the favorite, Real is the record holder in this tournament, although I probably agree with this, City really played better than Real. Probably in this rating I disagree only with the position of Bayern and would raise it higher.

For those who are confident in this, I think betting on Real Madrid at such early odds of almost 4x can be a good opportunity. This season considering players, statistics and performance, its hard to deny Real Madrid strength and power compared to other teams or even last season. While Manchester City also performed well last season, I wouldn’t say they played beter than Madrid especially since they lost to them.
Arsenal is third among the favorites to win the UCL but I find it challenging for them to overcome teams like Barcelona, Bayern Munich or even PSG.

Additionally, I'm wondering if betting on these teams while they advance in the Champions League will allow for an early cashout before they win or get eliminated. For example if I have a bet on Barcelona with 13.10 odds and they advance to the finals, is it possible to cash out before the match begins and still make a good profit?
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August 17, 2024, 09:55:33 AM
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You are right and this point of yours, when put to consideration has got a whole lot of sense in it but then even at this point I don't see Madrid really suffering because their defense doesn't appear solid, they have got a form midfield a d from the build up in the midfield, some sense of defensiveness is seen coupled with their solid forwards, attackers and strikers who can maintain a good level of possession long enough before the ball gets into their danger zone, so for me I see it that Madrid just have nothing to really wori about in their defense and also they have got a tactics that's helping them cover up for all of that which looks like a problem.
Minor weaknesses can be overcome by several other players who are ready to help in the defense area. Real Madrid players who are mostly young will help each other, especially since they always maintain good chemistry between players. Real Madrid's game, which always dominates the opposing team with high ball possession, can neutralize weaknesses in one position. Real Madrid's midfielders are always able to maintain the rhythm of the game well and often provide the best service for the attackers, the compactness that has been built so far has made Real Madrid able to win several prestigious titles.
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August 17, 2024, 09:51:10 AM
There is almost nothing different but here Real Madrid is much closer to Manchester City and makes both of them always on the same track to be able to win the Champions League. If we still remember Manchester City is always above Real Madrid with a large odds difference and this time Mbappe's arrival has changed the bookie's perspective where Real Madrid is much more promising after having a striker.

However, if we talk about the final, it seems that it will still happen again considering that luck will always accompany them no matter the strength that is quite far from the superior team and as long as they fight as hard as they can, it is possible that these teams can return to the final. But I'm curious if that's possible, I want to see Liverpool in the top match again. Grin

Do you want Salah to once again talk about revenge against Real and for everything to end with another victory for Ancelotti's team?   Grin
It's unclear what Liverpool will be like this season, but they don't look like strong title contenders at the moment. Anyway, it's good that they're back in the Champions League, I have nothing against Newcastle, Benfica etc. but still, games involving Liverpool are always more entertaining (and have a great historical background).
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Expectations are high for Mbappe. I am sure he will experience a lot of goal celebrations in La Liga. There are many players in the back who will feed him. I think Mbappe can finish the season with close to 30 goals after these players feed him well. I congratulate President Perez for crowning the great squad in Real Madrid with the best. Mbappe will play exceptionally in this team.

From yesterday's game I don't think their is anything to doubt about Mbappé  performance the boy did a great job yesterday aside the attempts he also scored next season Theit is going to be a lot of show, Mbappé came prepared  playing for Real Madrid he wants to build his name. And he is already doing it, Mbappé is already clear a lot of people and even me whether he will perform well or not but yesterdays game was already convincing, he has Vinicius junior that is not a selfish player that will always give good assistance also, Mbappé might even do more than we think because from the look of things that boy is ready to work. Am beginning to love him now he was looking all calm even when he scored. He also as a lot of young players to also support him when ever their is a game, that is what young players need they need good support when they are playing, so that they will not get overwhelmed by to much pressure.
The best decision of Mbappe's career is to leave PSG and join Real Madrid. This one right decision will take his career to a different level. Mbappé has been at PSG for a long time and he has scored more goals than PSG so far but he has not won the Ballon d'Or and he has not had any notable achievements but as soon as he came to Real Madrid he played in the finals of a major tournament, scored goals and won trophies. Real Madrid have enough experienced players to support him so his job will be to finish only which he can do very well. The two major competitions in Europe are the Champions League and the Europa League, and the popular teams in these two leagues are Real Madrid and Manchester United.

It was certainly an excellent decision for him to leave Paris. San German was an unstimulating environment and for him I think it was also a little toxic. Let's say that if he would have gone to Real Madrid first he would certainly have already won some Champions League and also a Ballon d'Or.
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August 17, 2024, 09:08:45 AM
Expectations are high for Mbappe. I am sure he will experience a lot of goal celebrations in La Liga. There are many players in the back who will feed him. I think Mbappe can finish the season with close to 30 goals after these players feed him well. I congratulate President Perez for crowning the great squad in Real Madrid with the best. Mbappe will play exceptionally in this team.

From yesterday's game I don't think their is anything to doubt about Mbappé  performance the boy did a great job yesterday aside the attempts he also scored next season Theit is going to be a lot of show, Mbappé came prepared  playing for Real Madrid he wants to build his name. And he is already doing it, Mbappé is already clear a lot of people and even me whether he will perform well or not but yesterdays game was already convincing, he has Vinicius junior that is not a selfish player that will always give good assistance also, Mbappé might even do more than we think because from the look of things that boy is ready to work. Am beginning to love him now he was looking all calm even when he scored. He also as a lot of young players to also support him when ever their is a game, that is what young players need they need good support when they are playing, so that they will not get overwhelmed by to much pressure.
The best decision of Mbappe's career is to leave PSG and join Real Madrid. This one right decision will take his career to a different level. Mbappé has been at PSG for a long time and he has scored more goals than PSG so far but he has not won the Ballon d'Or and he has not had any notable achievements but as soon as he came to Real Madrid he played in the finals of a major tournament, scored goals and won trophies. Real Madrid have enough experienced players to support him so his job will be to finish only which he can do very well. The two major competitions in Europe are the Champions League and the Europa League, and the popular teams in these two leagues are Real Madrid and Manchester United.
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August 17, 2024, 09:00:27 AM
Maybe it will be so, at least the beginning for him was really easy, the first official match and he won the UEFA Super Cup. Maybe in the new season he will be able to win the Champions League, but it is too early to talk about it, I looked at the odds and they look like this:

City - 3.25
Real - 3.95
Arsenal - 9.85
Liverpool - 11.10
Bayern - 12.70
Barcelona - 13.10
PSG - 16.80

It is surprising that Arsenal is higher than Bayern, Barcelona and even PSG. It is also not clear why City is considered the favorite, Real is the record holder in this tournament, although I probably agree with this, City really played better than Real. Probably in this rating I disagree only with the position of Bayern and would raise it higher.

Manchester City are still favoured more than Real Madrid. It looks really interesting to me truthfully. The reason is that we have all seen how Ancelotti worked it out against Guardiola's system and eliminated them. Real Madrid are the last champions and literally the king of the Champions League also. 15 trophies... But still they aren't the most favoured one. I would rather betting on them @3.95.  Smiley

Arsenal are favoured more but I don't think they will reach a higher round. I think Bayern Munich will reach at least the semi finals unless facing Manchester City or Real Madrid until then in the knockout round.
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August 17, 2024, 08:51:03 AM

City - 3.25
Real - 3.95
Arsenal - 9.85
Liverpool - 11.10
Bayern - 12.70
Barcelona - 13.10
PSG - 16.80

Odds that are not too different from last season where last season the position was almost the same where Manchester City and Madrid remained the favorites for this competition and I think it is quite reasonable for the odds of several other big clubs even though they are also big clubs but for the Champions League we can actually see the difference where other clubs are below Madrid and Manchester City especially with the condition of several clubs such as Barcelona, ​​PSG and Bayern which this season they are in a transition phase with their internal then their odds are not surprising. But in this case we cannot close the fact that there are always surprises that occur just like 2 seasons ago Inter and Dortmund who were in the final this is still possible to happen.
There is almost nothing different but here Real Madrid is much closer to Manchester City and makes both of them always on the same track to be able to win the Champions League. If we still remember Manchester City is always above Real Madrid with a large odds difference and this time Mbappe's arrival has changed the bookie's perspective where Real Madrid is much more promising after having a striker.

However, if we talk about the final, it seems that it will still happen again considering that luck will always accompany them no matter the strength that is quite far from the superior team and as long as they fight as hard as they can, it is possible that these teams can return to the final. But I'm curious if that's possible, I want to see Liverpool in the top match again. Grin
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August 17, 2024, 08:46:22 AM
City - 3.25
Real - 3.95
Arsenal - 9.85
Liverpool - 11.10
Bayern - 12.70
Barcelona - 13.10
PSG - 16.80
Odds that are not too different from last season where last season the position was almost the same where Manchester City and Madrid remained the favorites for this competition and I think it is quite reasonable for the odds of several other big clubs even though they are also big clubs but for the Champions League we can actually see the difference where other clubs are below Madrid and Manchester City especially with the condition of several clubs such as Barcelona, ​​PSG and Bayern which this season they are in a transition phase with their internal then their odds are not surprising. But in this case we cannot close the fact that there are always surprises that occur just like 2 seasons ago Inter and Dortmund who were in the final this is still possible to happen.
You are right and it is very reasonable considering that Manchester City is the champion of the 2022/23 UCL season and Real Madrid is the champion of last season, besides that Manchester City also still has fairly solid squad with all their main players who can still be relied on.
Bookie sees the potential of each team to be able to provide opportunities for several big team that will take part in the UCL competition, Manchester City and Real Madrid are both team with main squads filled with star players who clearly have above average playing skills, from here both are made as superior team.
Conditions like this are what usually confuse gamblers who will choose their favorite team between the two to win the title this season.

If from the 6 team I much more confident that Arsenal and Liverpool can show good performance besides Manchester City or Real Madrid, they can also be quite wary of several of the top team above, but there is one more that may not be listed, namely Inter Milan and they could show surprise like in the 2022/23 season.
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August 17, 2024, 06:01:22 AM
Lol, just like I said Real Madrid will destroy Atalanta, they prove me right.
Atalanta only have few chance, but they don't have good individual skill, so they can't score a goal from the chance they created.
Mbappe has very impressed statistic: 1 match, 1 goal, 1 trophy. Is there any other player that has the same statistic? Cheesy
Congratulations to Real Madrid, it's still weird to see Mbappe in Real Madrid since whenever I hear "Mbappe" my mind always think he's a PSG player.

Congratulations again to Real Madrid Club for winning yet another title. Currently, Real Madrid continues to win, they are winning almost most of the matches. Kylian Mbappe was the biggest attraction of the UEFA Super Cup 2024 final match yesterday. Mbappe played his first match for Real Madrid through yesterday's match.
His style of play didn't seem new at this club, he was too old and too relaxed. Real Madrid midfielder Valverde put Real Madrid ahead in the 59th minute before Kylian Mbappe doubled the score with another goal. Mbappe's goal marked the first goal of his career for Real Madrid, even in the final.

Also, as you mentioned, he might have a record next to his name for the first goal in a debut match even a title win in that match.

What a club Real Madrid is. It won't be an injustice to declare them as the Kings of Europe officially, and just call it a day. They just keep winning.
In all seriousness though, there could only be one winner in the Super Cup showdown between Atalanta and Real Madrid. Atalanta, even after showing huge promise in the UEL knockouts, knew this would be a huge hurdle to overcome. On the other hand, Real Madrid right now has the best squad in all of Europe. Ancelotti has super players, and he is the perfect man to get the best out of these players.

Also the Mbappe stat, this might be a crazy record just on its own. Insane  Smiley

Truly Real Madrid is the king of Europe all thanks to them management, the team president for always bringing in good coaches and young stars who are always potential world best players in view, they play as a team and they have the winning mentality always in every game they play so I guess they should crown them the King 👑 of European competitions because they definitely won't stop winning trophies with the world class players they have in the team right now.

The Atalanta team came so prepared for the game knowing they they are up against the best team in the world but not stepping up low as a result of the first half result of 0:0 shows how improved the Atalanta team has become after their performance in the Europa League finals last season.
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August 17, 2024, 05:39:49 AM
It's clear that Real Madrid should be the most likely to defend their trophy. But, as you said, it's weird they got second, not first. Prob Pep's factor is the reason why we're still seeing City at the first place. Also, the funny thing is that Arsenal is more favored. They have smaller odds than Munich, which beat them last season. But the only acceptable reason is probably due to the new coach of Bayern Munich. Still, this looks so strange.
All of that can still change when the season starts because for me it is also not right to put Real Madrid in second place after what Real Madrid achieved last season and also with the current Real Madrid squad. If it is because Pep is still coaching Manchester City, I think it is also not wrong if we consider Ancelotti as a good coach for Real Madrid so that every Real Madrid player is able to play the way he gives. We can see an example when Real Madrid beat Atalanta where in the first half Real Madrid did not play well enough, but in the second half everything changed and Madrid became a team that was able to win.
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