PSG and Bayern Munich are both leading their domestic leagues. PSG is at the top of Ligue 1, where they are yet to be beaten, and Bayern Munich is leading in Bundesliga. But what is noticeable is that none of them has used their domestic success in demonstrating dominance in Champions League in this season. But then, it is considered to be a tougher competition. Because the level of pressure and the quality of opponents is higher. Therefore, superior performance in the domestic league does not always guarantee success in European competition.
Neither of both teams have been able to demonstrate their domestic dominance in the champions League because practically they are tow different leagues with varrying form of competitiveness at this point, if I am to even examine them and their strength I wouldn't be making much reference to their domestic performance knowing how well that is very different from the champion's league and even within them the level of prioritization they attach to each of these leagues at the levels they are at. So you are very correct to say that superiority in the domestic league doesn't equate same performance in the champions League. 
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It would be very surprising that Real Madrid doesn't qualify to the next stage of the competition therefore I can't write them off that they're not going to qualify. Liverpool has been impressive this season both in the premier and champions league. They're looking as a team that has the potential to win one of the league or they can win both too as they haven't shown any weakness and are just winning in the simplest way possible. They're not scoring too much but making sure they get the job down to get all three points. Liverpool next game is going to be against Real Madrid and both teams are tough teams in the champions league, if Liverpool doesn't win, they draw.
If they don't qualify then it's actually a good one because throughout out this season they have been very unfortunate in their performance, in every league everyone will get what they deserve and if Madrid did not do the needful then their is no way that they will qualify, Liverpool have been doing a very good job in the premier league and champions league to so the season moght be theirs because arsenal is looking more unstable this season compare to other season and this is not only arsenal and even Madrid a lot of clubs are very unstable this season a lot is happening but a winner must emerge.
This would have been Arsenal this season but they are busy still looking for ways to solve their own problems and when Arsenal is suppose to shine and showcase their success that is when they are now having serious game challenges and that is one annoying thing about arsenal this season their performance is seriously dropping and arteta is beginning to annoy me he needs to reconsider a lot of things you can not always be the best, every needs to learn from others.
Now Madrid only have to focus on the remaining matches because looking at the current schedule 2 of the 4 matches that will be carried out in weeks 5 and 6 will clearly be troublesome for them considering the opponents they have to face are Liverpool and Atalanta so even though Play off is an option for now but still they have to get points especially after 2 defeats which are quite painful making them currently in a less favorable position in the standings.
Madrid still have a lot to make some schemes and of course the momentum must be built from scratch after several painful defeats at the Bernabeu.
Do not let the minus results always get them because after all even though the play offs now they can still get but of course they also still need points to tell that they are also still one of the clubs that are indeed favorites in the championship.
Real Madrid's struggle this season is more difficult than before and this is of course because of the increasing number of injured players. In the last match, at least 3 players were reported to have suffered injuries including Rodrygo, Vasquez and Militao. This is clearly very troublesome for Ancelotti, it is even reported that Militao will miss this season due to his serious injury status.Madrid still have a lot to make some schemes and of course the momentum must be built from scratch after several painful defeats at the Bernabeu.
Do not let the minus results always get them because after all even though the play offs now they can still get but of course they also still need points to tell that they are also still one of the clubs that are indeed favorites in the championship.
Real Madrid may need to get some additional players in January considering they still have to fight hard in La Liga and the Champions League. Losing 2 times in 4 matches is certainly very unexpected, but that is part of the risk of the match for all teams. Ancelotti needs to develop the best plan for each match following the many injuries that have hit Real Madrid.
There are a few youngsters that Madrid have brought in now from Castila and that's all they can do as it's unlikely they'll be able to bring back any players for at least the next few months before the transfer window opens.
But to wait until January is clearly a risky choice so for now Madrid just have to maximize the strength available for them to survive this unfavorable condition especially for the Champions League because there are still 2 tough matches that they still have to face.
It is undeniable that Bayern's statistics are still quite superior and it can be seen from their current position even though Bayern are still quite bad but we can see that PSG is still scattered in the lower standings at this time. But on the other hand for now in terms of strength, these two clubs are actually quite comparable and this can be used by PSG to reduce the probability because it is clear they lose in terms of favorites for now.
Bayern are still constrained by performance as well as PSG even though these two clubs can both dominate in domestic competitions but still for competitions in the Champions League are different things so they have to try more if they really want something good.
Talking about the mentality of these two clubs is actually also balanced because in the last few seasons at least they can always qualify for the last 16 phase even though they are always hampered in the quarter-finals so for now it is just a matter of seeing the quality of the players and the attack scheme carried out whether it will be an advantage for Bayern or PSG because their target is definitely 3 points.
Bayern are still constrained by performance as well as PSG even though these two clubs can both dominate in domestic competitions but still for competitions in the Champions League are different things so they have to try more if they really want something good.
Talking about the mentality of these two clubs is actually also balanced because in the last few seasons at least they can always qualify for the last 16 phase even though they are always hampered in the quarter-finals so for now it is just a matter of seeing the quality of the players and the attack scheme carried out whether it will be an advantage for Bayern or PSG because their target is definitely 3 points.
PSG and Bayern Munich are both leading their domestic leagues. PSG is at the top of Ligue 1, where they are yet to be beaten, and Bayern Munich is leading in Bundesliga. But what is noticeable is that none of them has used their domestic success in demonstrating dominance in Champions League in this season. But then, it is considered to be a tougher competition. Because the level of pressure and the quality of opponents is higher. Therefore, superior performance in the domestic league does not always guarantee success in European competition.
And unfortunately they have to meet early. Since Bayern is at 17 in the Champions League standings and PSG sits at 25, for the winner to be, it's even very likely that loser will now be in a tougher spot, even possibly coming last. Both have some very talented players, but both need to start being more consistent in implementing their strategies to be able to compete more seriously in this tournament.
This season is full of surprises, because we see how the regular UCL teams really have difficulty getting tickets to the last 16.
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Now Madrid only have to focus on the remaining matches because looking at the current schedule 2 of the 4 matches that will be carried out in weeks 5 and 6 will clearly be troublesome for them considering the opponents they have to face are Liverpool and Atalanta so even though Play off is an option for now but still they have to get points especially after 2 defeats which are quite painful making them currently in a less favorable position in the standings.Madrid still have a lot to make some schemes and of course the momentum must be built from scratch after several painful defeats at the Bernabeu.
Do not let the minus results always get them because after all even though the play offs now they can still get but of course they also still need points to tell that they are also still one of the clubs that are indeed favorites in the championship.
Maybe there needs to be some refreshing in the Real Madrid squad, such as maximizing some young players, but I don't see Ancelotti having the inclination to do that. Many of Real Madrid's young players are on the bench, even though they also have good quality. Ancelotti must be able to give them time to play, this will make them better.
I fully agree with you. With that shape they would never be able to win the Premier League if they were part of it. The Bundesliga is doable for them because all of the other teams are having issues and Leverkusen just tied a game against the weakest Bundesliga team Bochum. That's why at the moment the Bundesliga is no benchmark at all. They have 33:7 goals, which is of course not bad at all, but it doesn't help anything in any other competition. You can see in almost every single game that they can't turn their dominance into anything of value. The most obvious evidence was the game against Barcelona. You could literally take that game for educational purposes... Bayern Munich has the ball most of the time and Barcelona teaches them how to use ball possession.
Barcelona and Bayern Munich aren't on same level this season, Barcelona is almost more likely to be seen as far ahead in their form and performance their season than they have been before meanwhile for Bayern Munich they have a coach who is still trying to gather some experience around the champions League so their game play and productivity is definitely not going to be on same level and Bayern is doing better in their domestic league but the champions League is such they wouldn't be keeping some sorts of expectations on their season.Yes I would love to see a second game Bayern Munich against Barcelona. I am curious to see whether Bayern Munich has what it takes to adjust to the problems that they had last time. But I agree with you that as of now it looks as if Barcelona is far ahead. But make no mistake, because Barcelona is currently playing against Sociedad and they are 1-0 behind and are not playing very well. 0 shots on target after 60 minutes into the game in La Liga. The big teams have their problems too.
But Flick left some important players at home as it seems. I am not sure if he is trying to handle injuries or if he decided to give some players are break.
If Madrid does end up in the play-off, I don't think it will be a big deal, but it certainly won't happen.
Although Madrid current performance is inconsistent, I have this assumption,
Liverpool vs Madrid (draw)
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If all the matches are in accordance with this prediction, I am sure Madrid will be in the best position to advance to the next round.
Real Madrid met Liverpool it has a good victory but for this time do not know because of inconsistent performance and Liverpool is in glory with Arne Slot so it will be difficult to win as away.Although Madrid current performance is inconsistent, I have this assumption,
Liverpool vs Madrid (draw)
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If all the matches are in accordance with this prediction, I am sure Madrid will be in the best position to advance to the next round.
Yes, maybe a draw is still very possible or it could be that Liverpool won this cannot be denied because Liverpool are on fire.
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Los Blancos are suffering a really hard time after the match against Osasuna. Winning against Liverpool is going to be really hard for Real Madrid. Especially because Liverpool is playing really well right now and Real Madrid is facing a lot of problems with injuries. getting a draw against Liverpool seems like a pretty realistic expectation for Real Madrid.
But at the same time, we also have to remember that Real Madrid is the best Champions League team that there is. They have been able to overcome insane odds before. And I don't think we should say that Ancelotti's side is not going to be able to do that this time. I am expecting a good matchup in this one between Los Blancos and The Reds.
But indeed the advantage that Bayern currently has is that they are slightly better than statistics than PSG, although in the end it is also a fairly difficult match because after all both clubs are still one of the clubs that count for their domestic competitions.
Bayern if they really want to stay in a place that is quite comfortable then clearly full points must be one of the targets for Bayern at this time but it is also not easy because PSG also definitely wants points because after all their position is much more difficult than Bayern at this time.
The advantage for Bayern in this match is that they play at home so this will be something that can be beneficial for them because playing at home is clearly a good advantage if it can be maximized properly by Kompany's squad, it just depends on performance and finishing because they are still quite weak in this regard.
statistically munich is clearly superior from PSG, although it is true that PSG so far has dominance and is a strong team in the domestic league but it cannot be denied that their mentality in the UCL has been very small, the poor mentality and also the inconsistency they have at this time makes them have to slump and even after being abandoned by many star players PSG is no longer a favourite in the UCL in my opinion, but regardless of what is happening for PSG at this time, of course that the match will be very difficult for both teams, because after all they have very big ambitions to improve their current position in UCL, munich has a better position than PSG but from the 4 matches they have played in UCL so far, munich lost points from 2 teams that are at the same level and even stronger than them, so indeed PSG have a chance to also win the match later although small in my opinion.Bayern if they really want to stay in a place that is quite comfortable then clearly full points must be one of the targets for Bayern at this time but it is also not easy because PSG also definitely wants points because after all their position is much more difficult than Bayern at this time.
The advantage for Bayern in this match is that they play at home so this will be something that can be beneficial for them because playing at home is clearly a good advantage if it can be maximized properly by Kompany's squad, it just depends on performance and finishing because they are still quite weak in this regard.
Bayern are still constrained by performance as well as PSG even though these two clubs can both dominate in domestic competitions but still for competitions in the Champions League are different things so they have to try more if they really want something good.
Talking about the mentality of these two clubs is actually also balanced because in the last few seasons at least they can always qualify for the last 16 phase even though they are always hampered in the quarter-finals so for now it is just a matter of seeing the quality of the players and the attack scheme carried out whether it will be an advantage for Bayern or PSG because their target is definitely 3 points.
Madrid still have a lot to make some schemes and of course the momentum must be built from scratch after several painful defeats at the Bernabeu.
Do not let the minus results always get them because after all even though the play offs now they can still get but of course they also still need points to tell that they are also still one of the clubs that are indeed favorites in the championship.
Real Madrid may need to get some additional players in January considering they still have to fight hard in La Liga and the Champions League. Losing 2 times in 4 matches is certainly very unexpected, but that is part of the risk of the match for all teams. Ancelotti needs to develop the best plan for each match following the many injuries that have hit Real Madrid.
If Madrid will end up in the play-off round, it is already the coach's plan to give the weaker team a chance to compete strongly and lose energy and run out of ways or strategies. While Ancelotti will be more relaxed in the play-off round to slowly catch up with other teams.
Indeed, the journey becomes longer but I believe what Ancelotti planned is the best way.
Now Madrid only have to focus on the remaining matches because looking at the current schedule 2 of the 4 matches that will be carried out in weeks 5 and 6 will clearly be troublesome for them considering the opponents they have to face are Liverpool and Atalanta so even though Play off is an option for now but still they have to get points especially after 2 defeats which are quite painful making them currently in a less favorable position in the standings.Indeed, the journey becomes longer but I believe what Ancelotti planned is the best way.
Madrid still have a lot to make some schemes and of course the momentum must be built from scratch after several painful defeats at the Bernabeu.
Do not let the minus results always get them because after all even though the play offs now they can still get but of course they also still need points to tell that they are also still one of the clubs that are indeed favorites in the championship.
I checked the odds for the match between Liverpool v Real Madrid and as it turns out, Liverpool is the overwhelming favorite. But even so, I personally do not consider about Liverpool who will play at home because obviously, at this moment Liverpool is still in a very good trend compared to Real Madrid. But at least, we also cannot at all underestimate Real Madrid, because we also realize that Real Madrid is a team that has a good winning mentality. Although in the previous match Real Madrid lost 1-3 against Milan, but I believe the performance and results that will occur in the match against Liverpool later will be very likely to have very different results. But even so, the results on paper may also still be possible to happen about Liverpool who may then manage to continue their positive trend.
Liverpool vs Madrid (draw)
It cannot be said that Real Madrid is performing very well at the moment, so Liverpool can win the Champions League match against Real Madrid as Liverpool are currently in the best form. The result of the match will either go in favor of Real Madrid or it will go in favor of Liverpool but I don't think the result of this match will be a draw. When a strong team performs poorly on a regular basis and their position drops to the bottom of the points table due to poor performance, they can do anything to get back into the good position. Looking forward to a great comeback from Real Madrid. Of course, we will expect Real Madrid to make a strong return to the Champions League with the match against Liverpool and we are looking forward to that.I think there is a possibility that this match will end in a draw, when we look at it, the strengths of the two teams are very close to each other. Liverpool is one of the best this year, we all watch how they play in the Premier League. Real Madrid is a team that can always do anything. In some matches they play very badly, in others they are very good, like a real champion. But this season they are not very good, they cannot play like last year.
So I think the strengths of the teams are close to each other and I think it is possible to end in a draw
The pressure of the Champions League is very different from the league, although Real Madrid found victory very convincingly, but I am worried about them in the Champions League, because Brest is quite solid in the Champions League, they seem to have found a good mentality compared to PSG in the Champions League, I think it is difficult for Madrid to beat them, especially since Madrid has currently lost several players due to injury, there is a possibility that this season they will not enter the next selection because overall Real Madrid has declined.
Although Brest is in a much better position than Real Madrid in the Champions League standings this season, I would not say that Real Madrid is much worse than Brest. Because in the Champions League Real Madrid must still be considered a tough opponent because as long as there is still a chance to achieve better results, Real Madrid will always try to achieve it in the Champions League. Moreover, you yourself know that the pressure in the Champions League is much heavier than other leagues and teams other than Madrid also know that.
His assessment is based on what is currently happening to Man City and Real Madrid, these two strong clubs are not in their best form, they are starting to have difficulty competing after the new format was implemented. I think Real Madrid are worse than Man City, the defeats to Lille and Milan make their chances of qualifying automatically very small. Madrid will also face Liverpool who have always performed well this season. Liverpool and Barcelona may have automatic qualification to the last 16, Munich and City still has hope, but Madrid will have to fight to qualify through the play-off, depending on the results of the remaining matches.
It would be very surprising that Real Madrid doesn't qualify to the next stage of the competition therefore I can't write them off that they're not going to qualify. Liverpool has been impressive this season both in the premier and champions league. They're looking as a team that has the potential to win one of the league or they can win both too as they haven't shown any weakness and are just winning in the simplest way possible. They're not scoring too much but making sure they get the job down to get all three points. Liverpool next game is going to be against Real Madrid and both teams are tough teams in the champions league, if Liverpool doesn't win, they draw.
Certainly to advance to the next round phase Madrid must sweep the rest of their matches with full points, but it seems to smooth it out they need a harder effort especially since several core players must be absent again due to injury. but we agree it would be very surprising if Madrid failed to qualify for the next round, but their opponents in the 5th session of the preliminary round are not an easy team to beat. we know Liverpool have not scored many goals in each match, but they are on the right track. certainly Liverpool will not let Madrid just get full points, especially the match held at their home base Anfield. of course this will be an exciting match, Madrid needs full points and Liverpool will at least stay focused on the right track. however, the two matches played by Arne Slot's team are not easy. after playing against Madrid, Liverpool will host Man City in the Domestic League. two big matches against teams that can be said to be strong, although the situation of Real Madrid and City is not in its best performance. however, Arne Slot certainly will not be reckless. especially in this competition, Liverpool is at the top of the Champions League table. they will try to maintain it, as well as Madrid need full points even though some of their players must be absent due to injury. I hope this match presents an interesting fight, both teams have another interesting side in every meeting.
Liverpool vs Madrid (draw)
It cannot be said that Real Madrid is performing very well at the moment, so Liverpool can win the Champions League match against Real Madrid as Liverpool are currently in the best form. The result of the match will either go in favor of Real Madrid or it will go in favor of Liverpool but I don't think the result of this match will be a draw. When a strong team performs poorly on a regular basis and their position drops to the bottom of the points table due to poor performance, they can do anything to get back into the good position. Looking forward to a great comeback from Real Madrid. Of course, we will expect Real Madrid to make a strong return to the Champions League with the match against Liverpool and we are looking forward to that.
Liverpool vs Madrid (draw)
It cannot be said that Real Madrid is performing very well at the moment, so Liverpool can win the Champions League match against Real Madrid as Liverpool are currently in the best form. The result of the match will either go in favor of Real Madrid or it will go in favor of Liverpool but I don't think the result of this match will be a draw. When a strong team performs poorly on a regular basis and their position drops to the bottom of the points table due to poor performance, they can do anything to get back into the good position. Looking forward to a great comeback from Real Madrid. Of course, we will expect Real Madrid to make a strong return to the Champions League with the match against Liverpool and we are looking forward to that.
Besides, not getting into the top 8 won't be a big problem, because if I understand correctly, pairs like Real - City won't be possible in the preliminary playoffs. Although, in fact, I haven't checked the draw mechanism that will be used for a long time.
Teams finishing the league phase at 9th to 24th place will go to the knockout round play-offs. 9th to 16th placed teams will be seeded. If Real Madrid and Manchester City both finish the league phase at 9th to 16 place or 17th to 24th place, it will not be possible that they will face each other. If one of them finishes the league phase at 9th to 16th place and the other team at 17th to 24the place, they may face each other at knockout round play-offs.
Barcelona and Liverpool's good chances are indeed based on their good results, but more likely on statistics. Bayern have one more failure than Barcelona at the moment, but they are rated worse. Real and City's good chances are based mainly on a long-term (pre-season) assessment of their strength - the clubs are currently doing much worse than expected and they are not leaders in their leagues, but it is assumed that in the long run they will be stronger than their bright (currently) competitors.
As for me, given the ongoing epidemic of injuries, I am no longer sure of anything.
His assessment is based on what is currently happening to Man City and Real Madrid, these two strong clubs are not in their best form, they are starting to have difficulty competing after the new format was implemented. I think Real Madrid are worse than Man City, the defeats to Lille and Milan make their chances of qualifying automatically very small. Madrid will also face Liverpool who have always performed well this season. Liverpool and Barcelona may have automatic qualification to the last 16, Munich and City still has hope, but Madrid will have to fight to qualify through the play-off, depending on the results of the remaining matches.As for me, given the ongoing epidemic of injuries, I am no longer sure of anything.
City is only 2 points away from the top 8, while Real is 3. The chances of getting into the playoffs directly are quite good, as there is still exactly half of the tournament ahead, and teams like Brest and Monaco will most likely not stay in the top 8.
Besides, not getting into the top 8 won't be a big problem, because if I understand correctly, pairs like Real - City won't be possible in the preliminary playoffs. Although, in fact, I haven't checked the draw mechanism that will be used for a long time.
The pressure of the Champions League is very different from the league, although Real Madrid found victory very convincingly, but I am worried about them in the Champions League, because Brest is quite solid in the Champions League, they seem to have found a good mentality compared to PSG in the Champions League, I think it is difficult for Madrid to beat them, especially since Madrid has currently lost several players due to injury, there is a possibility that this season they will not enter the next selection because overall Real Madrid has declined.
Although Brest is in a much better position than Real Madrid in the Champions League standings this season, I would not say that Real Madrid is much worse than Brest. Because in the Champions League Real Madrid must still be considered a tough opponent because as long as there is still a chance to achieve better results, Real Madrid will always try to achieve it in the Champions League. Moreover, you yourself know that the pressure in the Champions League is much heavier than other leagues and teams other than Madrid also know that.This match is very important because it will determine their steps depending on the points they have collected, Brest can use the home match to increase their collection of points in order to maintain their qualification to the last 16 without having to go through the play-off round. Currently Brest is luckier than Real Madrid based on the points collected in the last four matches, Real Madrid will also face a tough opponent in game 5 against Liverpool at Anfield.
The pressure of the Champions League is very different from the league, although Real Madrid found victory very convincingly, but I am worried about them in the Champions League, because Brest is quite solid in the Champions League, they seem to have found a good mentality compared to PSG in the Champions League, I think it is difficult for Madrid to beat them, especially since Madrid has currently lost several players due to injury, there is a possibility that this season they will not enter the next selection because overall Real Madrid has declined.
The pressure that exists in the champions league provides a different atmosphere and compete for each club compared to those in the domestic league, so it is not surprising that there will be many surprises that occur in the champions league this season, especially with the implementation of the new format at this time, so many small teams has shown better consistency than the big teams, but I think it is a natural thing considering the competition schedule followed by the big teams is more dense than small teams like Brest, so far Brest can perform quite well but that does not means they are better than Madrid, especially if we look at the opponents that Brest has faced so far are not strong opponents, while Madrid actually faces many difficult matches due to the champions league format which sorts out small and large teams, so far Brest is unbeaten in the champions league and Barcelona, PSV and Madrid will be their next opponents, so if they can win or draw in the match of course we should say they are quite good at the moment.Jump to: