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December 14, 2024, 04:43:13 AM
Milan win from Crvena zvezda is really predictable result because Milan is a big team in Europa so this match should be easy for them but a bit dissapoint because Milan unable to win with big scores from this match but indeed win is still win  because basically Milan can successfully to earn 3 points from this match and currently Milan has 12 points from 6 matches and Milan performance in this competition is more stable compared to in Serie A because they can able to managed their consistency and for 2 upcoming matches Milan will fight against Girona and Dinamo Zagreb and if Milan can able to beat these teams probably they can improved their position on League phase and finish at top 8
in terms of game quality, if Milan can keep their performance stable, Milan can get the win. whether they can get into the top 8 or not, also depends on the results of the other teams.
the performance of the teams in the top 8 standings is not bad, they appear extraordinary and are dominated by strong teams. if they can't qualify directly then they have to work hard through the playoffs. of course, it's not easy but if they have fairly easy opponents they can easily qualify for the next round.
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December 14, 2024, 04:37:16 AM
Milan win from Crvena zvezda is really predictable result because Milan is a big team in Europa so this match should be easy for them but a bit dissapoint because Milan unable to win with big scores from this match but indeed win is still win  because basically Milan can successfully to earn 3 points from this match and currently Milan has 12 points from 6 matches and Milan performance in this competition is more stable compared to in Serie A because they can able to managed their consistency and for 2 upcoming matches Milan will fight against Girona and Dinamo Zagreb and if Milan can able to beat these teams probably they can improved their position on League phase and finish at top 8
AC Milan even had a bad season in Serie A. So sometimes I don't have high hopes for this team. But in the remaining matches, namely against Girona and Dinamo Zagreb, I don't think it will be a difficult match for AC Milan. Because we know that even AC Milan was able to beat Real Madrid this season. So I think beating Girona will not be a big problem for AC Milan. Likewise with beating Dinamo Zagreb.

And I remain confident that at least AC Milan will qualify for the play-off round and then progress to the next stage. Because almost every season we always see AC Milan qualify for at least the top 16 or sometimes even the top 8. But for this season getting to the top 8 seems to be quite difficult. And maybe AC ​​Milan will at least be able to reach the top 16.
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December 14, 2024, 04:28:31 AM
I think that for this we need to look at the top 8 and think which teams can lose their place, it could be Brest and Lille, because the others are strong enough to hold on to the result. But there are also many contenders besides Milan who would like to rise to the coveted top 8. So I think that Milan will continue their path in this Champions League from the 1/16 finals, not the best option, because these are additional matches and a burden for the players, but I initially did not assume that Milan would be able to do this, but if Bayern and Real are outside the top 8, this is a surprise for me.

That's because people don't look at the matches the team has to play!
Milan started poorly but they played against Crvena and they have matches against Girona and Zagreb, normally an easy job to get 6 points from those!
Same as Bayern who everyone thought no, they were out of the league, they have a match against Feyenoord and 3 easy points against Bratislava!

On the opposite side, Brest was in the top places, but they met Barcelona, and now they will face also Madrid, so most likely it is bye bye the top 8.
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December 14, 2024, 04:21:51 AM
Milan win from Crvena zvezda is really predictable result because Milan is a big team in Europa so this match should be easy for them but a bit dissapoint because Milan unable to win with big scores from this match but indeed win is still win  because basically Milan can successfully to earn 3 points from this match and currently Milan has 12 points from 6 matches and Milan performance in this competition is more stable compared to in Serie A because they can able to managed their consistency and for 2 upcoming matches Milan will fight against Girona and Dinamo Zagreb and if Milan can able to beat these teams probably they can improved their position on League phase and finish at top 8
Regardless of the results of the match that they managed to win, but I am not too satisfied with what they showed, they still have many gaps that can be exploited by the opponent, proven by 1 goal that can be created by their opponent. They must minimize that, because if their opponent is stronger then it can be exploited again and it will be very dangerous for them. One thing that is still their weakness is that they have not been able to close the space perfectly, so that several times it has fatal consequences and also produces unsatisfactory results for them.
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December 14, 2024, 04:11:10 AM
Milan win from Crvena zvezda is really predictable result because Milan is a big team in Europa so this match should be easy for them but a bit dissapoint because Milan unable to win with big scores from this match but indeed win is still win  because basically Milan can successfully to earn 3 points from this match and currently Milan has 12 points from 6 matches and Milan performance in this competition is more stable compared to in Serie A because they can able to managed their consistency and for 2 upcoming matches Milan will fight against Girona and Dinamo Zagreb and if Milan can able to beat these teams probably they can improved their position on League phase and finish at top 8

I think that for this we need to look at the top 8 and think which teams can lose their place, it could be Brest and Lille, because the others are strong enough to hold on to the result. But there are also many contenders besides Milan who would like to rise to the coveted top 8. So I think that Milan will continue their path in this Champions League from the 1/16 finals, not the best option, because these are additional matches and a burden for the players, but I initially did not assume that Milan would be able to do this, but if Bayern and Real are outside the top 8, this is a surprise for me.
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December 14, 2024, 03:47:50 AM
I love this new system, and I am 100% sure that big clubs will end up trying to make some changes on this new system because of what happened as well. Look at it, Real Madrid is 20th, and thanks to their latest win, they could have been literally out of top 24 if they didn't get this win.

Manchester City is 22nd, they are literally just barely in, and this is the team that did treble one and a half season ago, and now they are looking like they may literally miss their chance. Don't get me started on PSG, they are literally 25th and out of top 24 right now, sure they still have a chance to get back in, but that is just so weak. Not every big team is doing badly, but these big teams are definitely not looking good at all.
Many big clubs have not been able to adapt to the new system. the clubs you mentioned, one of which was not been able to adapt it. Many their player injured because the new system, and another club not yet familiar with tight schedule.

Those big clubs were not fully preparing. They're kinda stupid when they were not adding more players to their squad, and think to complete the longer season with their available squad. Their stubborness makes their players faced a higher injury risk due to the busy schedule. They should have copied what Chelsea has done to have at least 2 squad in the same club.

The new system has forced the club to milk their players to play even longer than what they did usually. It makes their players have to put more efforts in order to play in any competitions. This is really burdenting their stamina, phisic and morale.


Manchester City was drop before the time, they will most likely overtake Girona on the bottom board because they don't have been able to adaption the new system, this was once expressed by Pep in the interview session that the new system makes their players tired, and easy to get injured. he hopes this new system will not be continued for next season, and come back to old system.
It's pep's fault for not even aware about how intensive their schedule this season. Also, some of his players are injury prone as well. It's wrong if he blames the new system.
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December 14, 2024, 03:01:13 AM
Milan win from Crvena zvezda is really predictable result because Milan is a big team in Europa so this match should be easy for them but a bit dissapoint because Milan unable to win with big scores from this match but indeed win is still win  because basically Milan can successfully to earn 3 points from this match and currently Milan has 12 points from 6 matches and Milan performance in this competition is more stable compared to in Serie A because they can able to managed their consistency and for 2 upcoming matches Milan will fight against Girona and Dinamo Zagreb and if Milan can able to beat these teams probably they can improved their position on League phase and finish at top 8
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December 14, 2024, 02:59:01 AM
In terms of quality, Man City should be able to beat PSG but the problem is that PSG will also fight as hard as they can when facing Manchester City, both teams need points so they can enter the play-off round and between them, of course, neither wants to give in and present a match with high tension that makes the match feel tense but it seems like I will favor Man City in the match. Pep Guardiola will definitely try hard so that his club can win.
Although PSG lost against big teams like Arsenal, Atletico Madrid and Bayern Munich, but their performance are good enough against small teams. Unlike Manchester City that lost against Bournemouth, Sporting Lisbon, and Tottenham.

If PSG didn't win, it mean the match will end in draw.

But, I'm more convinced PSG will win the match.
If we look realistically, of course PSG chances of qualifying are very small with the number of points they have at the moment, the remaining two matches they have also cannot guarantee they can qualify this season especially later if they have a worse point difference from other teams, indeed PSG often shows strong performance against small teams, and that can be a big advantage in maintaining their consistency, but facing manchester city and stuttgart is not an easy job for them, especially now that manchester city is also ambitious to get points after a bad performance in the previous match, I think the new format of the champions league this season seems to have become a nightmare for big teams where PSG, manchester city and even madrid are difficulty in the semi league phase.
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December 14, 2024, 02:42:04 AM
I think Machester City's hopes of winning are getting slimmer, amid the turmoil of the multiple problems they are facing plus the defeat against Juventus is a severe blow to Machester City, Coach Pep Guardiola must think quickly and critically, he must be able to maximize the use of players in order to win the next match, Machester City must immediately rise from the slump they are currently facing.

I must say that Manchester City's defeat surprised me, with a team that i don't consider to be as fit as Juventus.
clearly they have to evaluate a little what the problem was in order to remedy it!
or they risk ruining an entire season and that wouldn't be nice
Believe me i am looking forward to hoping Manchester City will make a surprise in the next match, although thin, Manchester City still has a chance, hopefully they can make the best use of it in order to win in the upcoming match, i hope the defeat against Juventus makes Manchester City really evaluate themselves, in order to perform better.
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December 14, 2024, 02:18:37 AM
In terms of quality, Man City should be able to beat PSG but the problem is that PSG will also fight as hard as they can when facing Manchester City, both teams need points so they can enter the play-off round and between them, of course, neither wants to give in and present a match with high tension that makes the match feel tense but it seems like I will favor Man City in the match. Pep Guardiola will definitely try hard so that his club can win.
Although PSG lost against big teams like Arsenal, Atletico Madrid and Bayern Munich, but their performance are good enough against small teams. Unlike Manchester City that lost against Bournemouth, Sporting Lisbon, and Tottenham.

If PSG didn't win, it mean the match will end in draw.

But, I'm more convinced PSG will win the match.
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December 14, 2024, 02:06:09 AM
I love this new system, and I am 100% sure that big clubs will end up trying to make some changes on this new system because of what happened as well. Look at it, Real Madrid is 20th, and thanks to their latest win, they could have been literally out of top 24 if they didn't get this win.

Manchester City is 22nd, they are literally just barely in, and this is the team that did treble one and a half season ago, and now they are looking like they may literally miss their chance. Don't get me started on PSG, they are literally 25th and out of top 24 right now, sure they still have a chance to get back in, but that is just so weak. Not every big team is doing badly, but these big teams are definitely not looking good at all.
Manchester city decline is not because of the current champions league pattern, it all just started after KDB and Rodri’s injury and now that KDB is back they can still figure out what’s happening with the club so their decline is personal and not the current UCL pattern but True the current pattern will be about new UCL knockout  stage qualifiers which is a good progress imo, unlike the previous UCL which  has a repetitive sets getting to the stage. Hence, Real Madrid case is likely due to the injury but the pattern also contributes.

I am just suprised that Manchester city and pep guadiola haven't been able to fix this problem because I know pep guadiola and he is a coach who knows how to work with the little that he has but this time has been different as the club have been drowning more and more since Rodri had injury but now that Kevin de byrune is back am still expecting changes as pep could just transform another to cover up for Rodri.
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December 14, 2024, 01:59:07 AM
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There is a big chance for Manchester City to win this match even though both teams will field all their core players in order to win.
PSG which has shown an extraordinary game this season, certainly does not want to give up, this match is very important for both teams to get to the next round automatically. will play aggressively and be interesting to watch.
There is still more than month for Manchester City to prepare the squad as well as possible and try to win the match, Manchester City must win the remaining two match so that they can be safer to be guaranteed to enter the play-off round to compete for place in the last 16.
Moreover, PSG did not play well here, they only played well in Ligue 1 so I don't see PSG showing extraordinary play this season, they played very badly in my opinion.
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December 14, 2024, 01:51:05 AM
There is a big chance for Manchester City to win this match even though both teams will field all their core players in order to win.
PSG which has shown an extraordinary game this season, certainly does not want to give up, this match is very important for both teams to get to the next round automatically. will play aggressively and be interesting to watch.
This is UCL and consider an important game for all these elite teams. Paris Saint-Germain might not be in the best form but thy also have good possible odds of winning games. Luis Enrique will not jeopardize his chances of hitting top priority this season. Who can predict if Manchester City will bounce to epic form by then or simply transform to worse form other than their present state? The Citizens have secured magnificent achievements in the past but currently, they're weigh out of the competitive league and that doesn't pull strings for the club. Pep Guardiola is always busy thinking and emphasize on game strategies that would change his team entirely.
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December 14, 2024, 01:19:17 AM
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There is wisdom in what you are saying because it seems this new system have revealed the weaknesses of some of the big teams and energize some other average teams to do better. Almost all the big teams are having a hard time coping except Liverpool who have not lost any match. If it were the previous arrangement, we knew for sure that Real Madrid, Manchester City and PSG will pass group stage with ease but this new pattern seems a little difficult for them, the reason we see the surprises that happened. I believe that the next stage will even come with more surprises because those smaller teams that are entering will not want to be easily kicked out, they will fight with all they've got.
The new format of the Champions League has created uncertainty, there have been many surprises since the format was introduced, until the 6th match only Liverpool were confirmed to have qualified for the last 16 after sweeping all matches with victory. Meanwhile, Real Madrid can enjoy the blessings of the new format even though they have lost 3 times, they must try to win their next two games to secure a place in the knockout stages via the Play-off route. Several other teams are threatened with not qualifying for the next round not only due to the impact of the new format, but also their inconsistent performance.
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December 14, 2024, 12:35:23 AM
Man City is in a bad phase, and it seems like this is the first time for Guardiola since becoming a coach. Not only in the Premier League, Man City also performed badly in the Champions League. If they don't improve then they could be out of the Champions League. Now there are only 2 games left and the most interesting one to look forward to is the match against PSG. The two big teams that are currently struggling in the Champions League, and a defeat would dent their chances of qualifying for the round of 16.
In terms of quality, Man City should be able to beat PSG but the problem is that PSG will also fight as hard as they can when facing Manchester City, both teams need points so they can enter the play-off round and between them, of course, neither wants to give in and present a match with high tension that makes the match feel tense but it seems like I will favor Man City in the match. Pep Guardiola will definitely try hard so that his club can win.
There is a big chance for Manchester City to win this match even though both teams will field all their core players in order to win.
PSG which has shown an extraordinary game this season, certainly does not want to give up, this match is very important for both teams to get to the next round automatically. will play aggressively and be interesting to watch.
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December 14, 2024, 12:20:34 AM
Man city's performance this season is really disappointing losing some main players affects their performance but as a big club they certainly have quality reserve players and they should be able to bounce back quickly, maybe pep has run out of his genius ideas. Currently they are in 22nd position which is enough for them to get a chance to advance to the next phase through the play off round with a note in the remaining two matches they are able to win them if they want to ensure that place but the problem is the opponents they will face are quite strong, defeat can also be felt again by city.

Man City is in a bad phase, and it seems like this is the first time for Guardiola since becoming a coach. Not only in the Premier League, Man City also performed badly in the Champions League. If they don't improve then they could be out of the Champions League. Now there are only 2 games left and the most interesting one to look forward to is the match against PSG. The two big teams that are currently struggling in the Champions League, and a defeat would dent their chances of qualifying for the round of 16.
In terms of quality, Man City should be able to beat PSG but the problem is that PSG will also fight as hard as they can when facing Manchester City, both teams need points so they can enter the play-off round and between them, of course, neither wants to give in and present a match with high tension that makes the match feel tense but it seems like I will favor Man City in the match. Pep Guardiola will definitely try hard so that his club can win.
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December 13, 2024, 10:05:45 PM
I love this new system, and I am 100% sure that big clubs will end up trying to make some changes on this new system because of what happened as well. Look at it, Real Madrid is 20th, and thanks to their latest win, they could have been literally out of top 24 if they didn't get this win.

Manchester City is 22nd, they are literally just barely in, and this is the team that did treble one and a half season ago, and now they are looking like they may literally miss their chance. Don't get me started on PSG, they are literally 25th and out of top 24 right now, sure they still have a chance to get back in, but that is just so weak. Not every big team is doing badly, but these big teams are definitely not looking good at all.
Many big clubs have not been able to adapt to the new system. the clubs you mentioned, one of which was not been able to adapt it. Many their player injured because the new system, and another club not yet familiar with tight schedule. Manchester City was drop before the time, they will most likely overtake Girona on the bottom board because they don't have been able to adaption the new system, this was once expressed by Pep in the interview session that the new system makes their players tired, and easy to get injured. he hopes this new system will not be continued for next season, and come back to old system.
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December 13, 2024, 06:59:06 PM
Arsenal is happy to have a player like Saka in this team. Saka scored two goals and made an assist against Monaco and to be honest he was enough by himself for Arsenal to help them win this match.
Now Arsenal's situation in the Champions League is not bad at all because they are now in third place in the table after Liverpool and Barcelona.
This can make Arteta take a breath and now he can think about improving their place in the Premier League because they are safe in good form in the Champions League.

Yeah Arsenal still has a great chance to qualify for the next round and stay in the top 8 Arsenal only lost once against Inter Milan but they won 4 times
I do not hesitate to Arsenal in the next 2 matches I'm sure they can collect at least 4 points this means that Arsenal will collect 17 points from 8 matches and that is enough
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December 13, 2024, 06:24:52 PM
I love this new system, and I am 100% sure that big clubs will end up trying to make some changes on this new system because of what happened as well. Look at it, Real Madrid is 20th, and thanks to their latest win, they could have been literally out of top 24 if they didn't get this win.

Manchester City is 22nd, they are literally just barely in, and this is the team that did treble one and a half season ago, and now they are looking like they may literally miss their chance. Don't get me started on PSG, they are literally 25th and out of top 24 right now, sure they still have a chance to get back in, but that is just so weak. Not every big team is doing badly, but these big teams are definitely not looking good at all.
Manchester city decline is not because of the current champions league pattern, it all just started after KDB and Rodri’s injury and now that KDB is back they can still figure out what’s happening with the club so their decline is personal and not the current UCL pattern but True the current pattern will be about new UCL knockout  stage qualifiers which is a good progress imo, unlike the previous UCL which  has a repetitive sets getting to the stage. Hence, Realmadrid case is likely due to the injury but the pattern also contributes.
Yep, I agree with that the current slovenly situation of Manchester City is not because of the new rules of the UEFA champions league or Rodri and Kevin De Bruyne injuries. It's because of the poor defensive tactics Because the match that I have watched, the reason for Manchester City's defeat is only the defense line. Most of the time, goals have been conceded to the team due to wrong pass attempts by the defender. Yes, a little bit of weakness was caused by the absence of Kevin De Bruney and Rodri, but if we dig a little deeper, it is clear that Manchester City's performance has declined due to poor defensive tactical stances.
 
So it's mean to say that only new rules of the UEFA Champions League have had a little bit impact on the team statics, but mostly due to poor defending the team has lost its great form.
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December 13, 2024, 05:54:53 PM
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Barcelona finally gets their 5th winning in this competition that playing at Dortmund home ground it is not easy for Barcelona because Dortmund also have displayed good performance even 10 minutes before the match ended Dortmund can dominate the game and they almost be equalize the scores but Ferran Torres can utilize the mistakes which made by Dortmund players and in this match he was made a brace and bringing Barcelona to collect 3 points from this match and with this result Barcelona can occupy runner up place under Liverpool with collect 15 points from 6 matches

TBH, the Dortmund VS Barcelona game was the best champions league tonight, if not the best for the week as well. What a top performance from both sides. Massive credits to both teams, because they both deserve to win the game, but there is always one winner in a game. Though, Dortmund should've secured a point for themselves as well, but luck wasn't on their side. Congrats to Barcelona for putting up a top performance tonight. What a night for Ferran Torres to put himself on the news. This is basically a reminder that a player like him is still very much with Barcelona. And the most impressive thing is the Dortmund attack. I really need to know who scouts these Dortmund players, because their performance tonight was at a very top level.

And as for other games, Arsenal secured a win after defeating Monaco who happens to be another very good side in the champions league this season. The first half was quite boring, as Arsenal literally missed lots of chances. But all thanks to their star boy Saka, as he scored a brace and gave an assist. Though, I feel that it sould have been an Hattrick, but the goal was awarded to Havertz because it was a deflection.

And as for Manchester city, it's not looking good at all. How the mighty has fallen suddenly. Seeing Juventus' performance this season, it would have been very difficult to see them losing, and considering the fact that City isn't that good this season. They will be playing against PSG next, which means, a loss or even draw might see them out. What a tough moment for them.


Arsenal is happy to have a player like Saka in this team. Saka scored two goals and made an assist against Monaco and to be honest he was enough by himself for Arsenal to help them win this match.
Now Arsenal's situation in the Champions League is not bad at all because they are now in third place in the table after Liverpool and Barcelona.
This can make Arteta take a breath and now he can think about improving their place in the Premier League because they are safe in good form in the Champions League.
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