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Quote from: mammusu on November 09, 2024, 03:14:54 AM

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Munich is not in a positive momentum after the defeat they got from aston villa and also barcelona, their inconsistent performance is certainly a concern at this time because it is inversely proportional to what we see in bundesliga, the two defeats they got in the champions league showed their weakness in competing with more competitive clubs today, but when compared to PSG, of course munich is still much better in my opinion, although the performance of the two teams is relatively not different at this time, but we must admit that Munich ability to overcome the pressure actually makes them more favoured in the match later, both teams have a great squad at this time so the mentality and also the coach strategy will be a very decisive thing to win in the match.

Munich started the season brilliantly. But Bayern Munich failed to maintain consistency. At the start of the season we saw Bayern Munich win consistently. And most of the matches were won by Bayern Munich by big margins. But Bayern Munich are a bit off form at the moment. Bayern Munich is under a lot of pressure at the moment, especially after losing two matches in the Champions League.

Winning the Bundesliga title is not a difficult task for Bayern Munich. The performances of almost every club in the Bundesliga have been somewhat erratic. Leipzig have dropped back in the title race after losing their last match. So Kompany should now try his best to do well in the Champions League.

PSG's squad should not be compared to Bayern Munich's. PSG's squad now relies on youth. There are very few experienced players in the squad. Bayern Munich on the other hand have a very strong squad.

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Quote from: wakier on November 08, 2024, 10:44:42 PM

Looking at what we have seen so far, Liverpool should have a better chance than Barcelona, but why do bookies put Barcelona in 3rd place in the strong candidates for the UCL title? I am very sure that Liverpool will go far in the UCL, even Madrid and Man City are quite far behind in their respective positions.

There can be many reasons, their domestic results probably play a part too. I mean, they score lots of goals under Flick while Liverpool usually wins with a 2-goal margin or so. I'd say their result against Leverkusen is an outlier considering their other results in the UCL. At the end of the day, prediction can be wrong so I'd not stress out too much about their odds.

Quote from: mammusu on November 09, 2024, 03:14:54 AM

but we must admit that Munich ability to overcome the pressure actually makes them more favoured in the match later, both teams have a great squad at this time so the mentality and also the coach strategy will be a very decisive thing to win in the match.

Based on xG alone I think a draw is quite possible. PSG is quite unlucky not to score 2 goals against Atletico Madrid considering the high xG. But that's football, you have to deal with it to win games.

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They have lost twice in the 4 matches they have played and in week 5 they will face PSG which will certainly not be easy for them to conquer if the target is 3 points. This still seems a little unfavorable for Bayern even though PSG is currently looking alarming in the Champions League but they are not an easy opponent.

After suffering 2 consecutive defeats against Aston Villa and Barcelona, Bayern Munich immediately bounced back in Match 4 by beating Benfica. In my opinion, Bayern Munich will have no trouble hosting PSG at the Allianz Arena as the away team has not won in their last three matches. After the defeat against Atlético Madrid in their last game, PSG are in 25th place in the UCL standings. Munich will be the favorite team in this match because PSG is inconsistent in maintaining its performance this season.

Munich is not in a positive momentum after the defeat they got from aston villa and also barcelona, their inconsistent performance is certainly a concern at this time because it is inversely proportional to what we see in bundesliga, the two defeats they got in the champions league showed their weakness in competing with more competitive clubs today, but when compared to PSG, of course munich is still much better in my opinion, although the performance of the two teams is relatively not different at this time, but we must admit that Munich ability to overcome the pressure actually makes them more favoured in the match later, both teams have a great squad at this time so the mentality and also the coach strategy will be a very decisive thing to win in the match.

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When we are talking about Barcelona's chances to win the title, their chance are low. I said that based on the latest UCL odds. Liverpool still leads to be the most favorite club to win the title, and Barcelona is still at the 6th place.

Barcelona is very productive in the UCL, eventhough they are not in the top 5 for outright odds. This shows Barcelona shall have tried harder to win the title. But, the odds can change based on the UCL results each week.

There are still 4 matches left to be played and I am optimistic that Barcelona has a chance to be in the top 5 in the next 2 matches. As long as Hansi Flick continues to maintain the consistency of his players, there is no reason for Barcelona to decline. Barcelona 5th match will host Brest and in terms of quality if they are able to beat them, it will provide an additional higher chance. Brest has not experienced a defeat but if you look at the opponents who have been defeated, their strength level is below standard then I am sure that Blaugrana is still favored.

Barcelona has currently shown a very impressive performance so I am confused why there are still those who doubt them and the matter of Barcelona not being the main favorite in the title race this season because at the beginning of the season they were doubted but now everything is different, Hansi Flick really managed to make a significant difference in the Barcelona team this season.
And to say anything to win the title this season is still too early but I think if we look at what Barcelona has shown this season then they deserve and there is a possibility for that, they just need to maintain their consistency there until the end of the season.

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Quote from: armanda90 on November 09, 2024, 12:08:40 AM

I doubt Real Madrid will get qualify to knock out round or not with UEFA Champion League new format after defeating 2 of 4 matches and collected 6 points awhile. Last match make many fans shocked after Madrid defeating by not favorable team AC Milan have downtrend performance in domestic league bust success defeating Madrid on their home match. However Madrid have 9 points remaining reach to direct qualify to knock out round from Aston Villa but many teams have few points left to reach higher standings position will make difficult for Madrid get the higher standings position.

Upcoming match, Madrid have to face difficult opponent team Liverpool who leading the first standings awhile and must win if won't loss opportunity to defend the Champion League tittle.

Four matches left for Real Madrid in phase league matches

Liverpool A
Atalanta A
Salzburg H
Brest A

If Madrid does end up in the play-off, I don't think it will be a big deal, but it certainly won't happen.
Although Madrid current performance is inconsistent, I have this assumption,

Liverpool vs Madrid (draw)
Atalanta vs Madrid (Madrid win)
Madrid vs Salzburg (Madrid win)
Brest vs Madrid (Madrid win)

If all the matches are in accordance with this prediction, I am sure Madrid will be in the best position to advance to the next round.

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I doubt Real Madrid will get qualify to knock out round or not with UEFA Champion League new format after defeating 2 of 4 matches and collected 6 points awhile. Last match make many fans shocked after Madrid defeating by not favorable team AC Milan have downtrend performance in domestic league bust success defeating Madrid on their home match. However Madrid have 9 points remaining reach to direct qualify to knock out round from Aston Villa but many teams have few points left to reach higher standings position will make difficult for Madrid get the higher standings position.

Upcoming match, Madrid have to face difficult opponent team Liverpool who leading the first standings awhile and must win if won't loss opportunity to defend the Champion League tittle.

Four matches left for Real Madrid in phase league matches

Liverpool A
Atalanta A
Salzburg H
Brest A

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 08, 2024, 04:15:43 PM

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When we are talking about Barcelona's chances to win the title, their chance are low. I said that based on the latest UCL odds. Liverpool still leads to be the most favorite club to win the title, and Barcelona is still at the 6th place.

Barcelona is very productive in the UCL, eventhough they are not in the top 5 for outright odds. This shows Barcelona shall have tried harder to win the title. But, the odds can change based on the UCL results each week.

You are misinterpreting the data you published. Odds of 6.50 mean a greater chance than odds of 7.0 Barcelona are now literally the third favourite for the title:

Manchester City - 4.50

Real Madrid - 5.50

Barcelona Fc - 6.50

Liverpool - 7.00

Arsenal - 10.00

Fc Bayern Munich - 10.00

And in fact, 6.5 is not much different from 4.5 - the main favorite and 5.5 - the main winner of the Champions League.
Taking into account the decline of the main favorites, I see that the quotes have become much more even.

Looking at what we have seen so far, Liverpool should have a better chance than Barcelona, but why do bookies put Barcelona in 3rd place in the strong candidates for the UCL title? I am very sure that Liverpool will go far in the UCL, even Madrid and Man City are quite far behind in their respective positions.

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Quote from: Raflesia on November 08, 2024, 04:49:28 PM

They have lost twice in the 4 matches they have played and in week 5 they will face PSG which will certainly not be easy for them to conquer if the target is 3 points. This still seems a little unfavorable for Bayern even though PSG is currently looking alarming in the Champions League but they are not an easy opponent.

After suffering 2 consecutive defeats against Aston Villa and Barcelona, Bayern Munich immediately bounced back in Match 4 by beating Benfica. In my opinion, Bayern Munich will have no trouble hosting PSG at the Allianz Arena as the away team has not won in their last three matches. After the defeat against Atlético Madrid in their last game, PSG are in 25th place in the UCL standings. Munich will be the favorite team in this match because PSG is inconsistent in maintaining its performance this season.

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It is likely that Barcelona will enter the top 5 because they have a slick game with Hans Flick as their coach, not to mention scoring more goals so the goal productivity is great for Barcelona.
Moreover, Barcelona against Brest played at home so it could be a good victory again, I know how Brest currently looks strong because it hasn't lost yet but seeing Barcelona's current performance that can beat Madrid and Bayern they become feared.

When it comes to Barcelona anything I see I believe because the way they are so determined to win anything makes it interesting, because their is a lot of kings in town in different leagues and for la liga is Barcelona and for champions league they are also pressing forward to see if they will be able to win, and don't be surprised to see them winning because any club they catch they lash they must even find a way of winning the club. Flick is one of the best things that have happened to Barcelona this season and even with how unsure people are towards him his doing very, and anyone can boost that Barcelona is the best in Spanish league now even if I love Madrid.

And if it's is about Barcelona beating Madrid they have done it a countless times jokes but they can still
Do it again, Real Madrid have found their self in an unfortunate situation, and that is why they are finding it hard to push foward in what ever league thay it might be and they have really fallen and we did not expect all this to happen this way because when mbappe was coming in his purpose was to improve the life style of the club and look at how is contribution have turn out.

This year Barcelona seem to have found a fluent pattern of play with increasing maturity in the chemistry between their players. With stable performances in La Liga and the Champions League, they are at their best and try to show consistency in every match. The presence of Flick as a coach truly brings a significant positive impact. As for Real Madrid, in fact, they are going through a pretty tough time. Several of their star players are actually leaving due to injuries. Therefore, the stability of the team has come under instability. The welcome of Mbappe, initially expected as a fresher and formidable source of the attack unit, somehow brings an overall problem as Real Madrid continues to find it hard to combine new and existing players. The rhythm of their play has not attained stability, and this has left them playing catch-up. With conditions like this, an effective strategy must be found by Madrid immediately to be able to keep up with Barcelona, especially if they want to compete at the top.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on November 08, 2024, 06:46:45 PM

The new Champions League format is interesting and also funny. Last week, Aston Villa has been at the top of the league but just one much lost they are nowhere to be seen close to the top. Lol
Also you can see someone at the top of the league yet their odds to win the Champions League is very high, making it impossible for them to win just like Brest.
I will like to see how this champions league will end this season.

Yeah maybe we are not used to this new rules, the team that got defeat will go down from the top position while the teams that have never lost will take over, I think this is still normal especially when 36 teams compete there fighting over the top 8. we will see a complete list after this round when each team goes to the next round they will get an opponent there. I personally agree with this format so that nothing is called the hell group and get the same opportunity.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on November 08, 2024, 04:12:12 PM

Brest is so far unbeaten in its last 4 matches in the Champions League against Sturm Graz, Salzburg, Leverkusen and Sparta Prague. But when they play Barcelona, then things could be different and Brest will likely suffer their first defeat. Brest's good performance so far cannot be separated from its relatively easy opponents, but considering that Barcelona is one of the favorites, Brest can't expect too much.

Yep that's right, the only draw result was when they managed to hold Leverkusen to a draw, besides that, Brest was able to win the match. Although so far, if we look at it, Brest's opponents are not top clubs, so, they can be that optimal in getting a win. And in the 5th match later, they will face Barcelona, this will certainly be quite difficult for them and it will not be as easy as usual for them to conquer their opponents. especially now, Barcelona is very on-fire with Hansi Flick.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 08, 2024, 04:15:43 PM

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The new Champions League format is interesting and also funny. Last week, Aston Villa has been at the top of the league but just one much lost they are nowhere to be seen close to the top. Lol
Also you can see someone at the top of the league yet their odds to win the Champions League is very high, making it impossible for them to win just like Brest.
I will like to see how this champions league will end this season.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 08, 2024, 04:15:43 PM

You are misinterpreting the data you published. Odds of 6.50 mean a greater chance than odds of 7.0 Barcelona are now literally the third favourite for the title:

Manchester City - 4.50

Real Madrid - 5.50

Barcelona Fc - 6.50

Liverpool - 7.00

Arsenal - 10.00

Fc Bayern Munich - 10.00

And in fact, 6.5 is not much different from 4.5 - the main favorite and 5.5 - the main winner of the Champions League.
Taking into account the decline of the main favorites, I see that the quotes have become much more even.

This odds are not looking bad if you ask me just that I would change two things which is I rate Madrid more than other club in the competition and util they are out they remain the favorite, even Manchester city coach Pep Guardiola once said this. So even at their lowest level now I still don’t turn on them, to be honest they have come up big in the past when they have started the season badly. As for Manchester city they can’t be compare all roun with any other club aside Madrid so they come slightly second to me.

Second thing I will change is Bayern Munich odd I don’t think they should be having same odd as Arsenal even if they are having a poor start to the campaign too they are the toughest opponent in the competition regardless of their form.

As for Liverpool and Barcelona I agree with their odds of because for Liverpool I am yet to get convinced by their performance and feel a top team can easily knock them out at a later stage while for Barcelona they are not that convincing in the competition since 2015 when they last won it and even now I don’t think they can pull that off with Manchester city and Real Madrid still playing here

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 08, 2024, 04:15:43 PM

You are misinterpreting the data you published. Odds of 6.50 mean a greater chance than odds of 7.0 Barcelona are now literally the third favourite for the title:

Manchester City - 4.50

Real Madrid - 5.50

Barcelona Fc - 6.50

Liverpool - 7.00

Arsenal - 10.00

Fc Bayern Munich - 10.00

And in fact, 6.5 is not much different from 4.5 - the main favorite and 5.5 - the main winner of the Champions League.
Taking into account the decline of the main favorites, I see that the quotes have become much more even.

I think the odds calculations are still in favour of previous won recent championship and more of performance for some club this season, Barcelona is placed base on performance... the main reason why Mancity is still the first favourite to win is still based on the performance to win last year's UCL and at the same time they are still trying to put the effort once again..they're still doing well this season no doubt.
I will really love to see Liverpool or Barcelona or Bayern or Dortmund to lift that trophy, they have suffered enough Cheesy

.. I think the new pattern should bring about new winners for the trophy(hopefully)

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Quote from: Obim34 on November 08, 2024, 03:48:44 PM

I agree on this, even if though Bayern may try to go further in this Champions league, their possibility of winning it is very less and instead of them making too much of a haste to get there and fall out from their domestic league only makes them losing on both sides. Kompany already has done some brilliant job, at least there is 99% assurance following their recent performance that they are the ones to win the Bundesliga this time.

Since a few seasons ago, the conditions have not been much different where although Bayern have always been one of the favorites, they have never been able to penetrate the final even in the last few seasons they have always lost in the quarter-finals so the current situation will not be much different from that.

It's just that even though they never go further but of course they also have to be able to maintain the conditions that always happen where they qualify easily for the group phase which seems for now the situation is still very difficult for them to get.
They have lost twice in the 4 matches they have played and in week 5 they will face PSG which will certainly not be easy for them to conquer if the target is 3 points. This still seems a little unfavorable for Bayern even though PSG is currently looking alarming in the Champions League but they are not an easy opponent.

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Yesterday match of Bayern vs Benfica team, Bayern team won the match by scoring 1 goal. Benfica team could not score any goal in this match. Benfica team players tried hard to score but could not score any goal. However, Benfica team could have drawn this match. The performance of the Bayern team players was really good for which Benfica team could not score any goals in this match.

An embarrassing result for Bayern Munich in my opinion, they dominated the match & had everything there, but all they could get was a goal scored by Jamal Musiala. Only conceding 1 goal is an achievement for Benfica, because they should have conceded more than 3 goals looking at the match statistics.

It looks like the Champions League is still a difficult match for Bayern Munich, because when Bayern Munich plays against a team that has good quality too, Bayern Munich has difficulty getting a victory with a large score despite playing at the Allianz Arena. Only in the first match of the Champions League Bayern Munich managed to win with a huge score of 9-2 but only played against Zagreb, and after that Bayern Munich really struggled to win despite having good dominance. Thus, the Champions League still does not seem to be a major target for Bayern Munich to get the trophy, because only playing against Aston Villa and against Benfica in fact Bayern Munich is difficult to win.

I don't think that Bayern Munich this season is targeting to win the champions league, because you must put your team in the best form first for them to be capable of winning UCL, and Kompany is still working on that. Kompany is bdought to bring back their domestic league back to Allianz Arena first before thinking of winning champions league, because it is not as easy as you think to win UCL.

I agree on this, even if though Bayern may try to go further in this Champions league, their possibility of winning it is very less and instead of them making too much of a haste to get there and fall out from their domestic league only makes them losing on both sides. Kompany already has done some brilliant job, at least there is 99% assurance following their recent performance that they are the ones to win the Bundesliga this time.

I think they're strong enough for two tournaments to perform at their level. I can't say that they can win the Champions League, but they will definitely reach the last rounds, Bayern are not a team that will leave the tournament deliberately at an early stage to win the national championship, out of the two cups they will choose the Champions League cup if they still have to make a choice

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I don't think that Bayern Munich this season is targeting to win the champions league, because you must put your team in the best form first for them to be capable of winning UCL, and Kompany is still working on that. Kompany is bdought to bring back their domestic league back to Allianz Arena first before thinking of winning champions league, because it is not as easy as you think to win UCL.

To be honest, I don't agree with your opinion about Bayern Munich's main target this season. Bayern Munich is a team that is always the favorite in the Champions League regardless of who the coach is, so it would not be right if they would only focus on the Bundesliga first before placing their focus on the Champions League. All the top teams target the Champions League title as their main target in Europe, so I think the same thing applies to Bayern Munich, who is being coached by Kompany this season.

I might agree with your opinion if Kompany coached a team like Leipzig or another mid-table team. Even with Dortmund or Leverkusen, Kompany will make the Champions League title the biggest target in his plans this season.

Agree with you. Bayern Munich is a team that every season is one of the favorites to win the Champions League so it is very unlikely that Bayern Munich will only focus on the domestic league. Whoever the Bayern Munich coach is later, the Champions League is their target every year, especially now that Bayern Munich is very strong in the domestic league, of course this is an opportunity for Kompany to immediately improve their performance in the Champions League which has recently been slumping.

The next match Bayern Munich will face PSG, of course mentally Bayern Munich is very strong to win this match compared to PSG, although PSG is trained by an experienced coach, don't be mistaken Kompany is also a smart coach, he can combine the playing patterns of Gardiola and Nagelsman at Bayern Munich. He masters the tactics of opening space, does not rely on just one player and is smart in rotating pressing. The Champions League is still very long, Kompany has the potential to provide a surprise in the Champions League, he just needs time to prove it because in terms of material Bayern Munich has quality players.

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Quote from: salad daging on November 08, 2024, 03:56:38 PM

It is likely that Barcelona will enter the top 5 because they have a slick game with Hans Flick as their coach, not to mention scoring more goals so the goal productivity is great for Barcelona.
Moreover, Barcelona against Brest played at home so it could be a good victory again, I know how Brest currently looks strong because it hasn't lost yet but seeing Barcelona's current performance that can beat Madrid and Bayern they become feared.

When it comes to Barcelona anything I see I believe because the way they are so determined to win anything makes it interesting, because their is a lot of kings in town in different leagues and for la liga is Barcelona and for champions league they are also pressing forward to see if they will be able to win, and don't be surprised to see them winning because any club they catch they lash they must even find a way of winning the club. Flick is one of the best things that have happened to Barcelona this season and even with how unsure people are towards him his doing very, and anyone can boost that Barcelona is the best in Spanish league now even if I love Madrid.

And if it's is about Barcelona beating Madrid they have done it a countless times jokes but they can still
Do it again, Real Madrid have found their self in an unfortunate situation, and that is why they are finding it hard to push foward in what ever league thay it might be and they have really fallen and we did not expect all this to happen this way because when mbappe was coming in his purpose was to improve the life style of the club and look at how is contribution have turn out.

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Quote from: salad daging on November 08, 2024, 03:56:38 PM

It is likely that Barcelona will enter the top 5 because they have a slick game with Hans Flick as their coach, not to mention scoring more goals so the goal productivity is great for Barcelona.
Moreover, Barcelona against Brest played at home so it could be a good victory again, I know how Brest currently looks strong because it hasn't lost yet but seeing Barcelona's current performance that can beat Madrid and Bayern they become feared.

When it comes to Barcelona anything I see I believe because the way they are so determined to win anything makes it interesting, because their is a lot of kings in town in different leagues and for la liga is Barcelona and for champions league they are also pressing forward to see if they will be able to win, and don't be surprised to see them winning because any club they catch they lash they must even find a way of winning the club. Flick is one of the best things that have happened to Barcelona this season and even with how unsure people are towards him his doing very, and anyone can boost that Barcelona is the best in Spanish league now even if I love Madrid.

And if it's is about Barcelona beating Madrid they have done it a countless times jokes but they can still
Do it again, Real Madrid have found their self in an unfortunate situation, and that is why they are finding it hard to push foward in what ever league thay it might be and they have really fallen and we did not expect all this to happen this way because when mbappe was coming in his purpose was to improve the life style of the club and look at how is contribution have turn out.

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Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on November 08, 2024, 12:13:45 PM

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When we are talking about Barcelona's chances to win the title, their chance are low. I said that based on the latest UCL odds. Liverpool still leads to be the most favorite club to win the title, and Barcelona is still at the 6th place.

Barcelona is very productive in the UCL, eventhough they are not in the top 5 for outright odds. This shows Barcelona shall have tried harder to win the title. But, the odds can change based on the UCL results each week.

You are misinterpreting the data you published. Odds of 6.50 mean a greater chance than odds of 7.0 Barcelona are now literally the third favourite for the title:

Manchester City - 4.50

Real Madrid - 5.50

Barcelona Fc - 6.50

Liverpool - 7.00

Arsenal - 10.00

Fc Bayern Munich - 10.00

And in fact, 6.5 is not much different from 4.5 - the main favorite and 5.5 - the main winner of the Champions League.
Taking into account the decline of the main favorites, I see that the quotes have become much more even.

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