Topic: UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season - page 191. (Read 36311 times)

Yes agree. To win the UCL league you don't have to win the domestic league. This has been proven by several clubs as you mentioned. Indeed, winning the domestic league will be a factor in proving their consistency in every match. The problem is, Arsenal failed in the last two seasons because they didn't have a bicycle reserve player, which made Arteta not dare to rotate players.

We know that player rotation is very important to maintain player fitness, especially if you are pursuing targets in the domestic league and UCL league. In fact, in the last two years under coach Arteta there have been many developments and changes, in the domestic league they competed very closely with Man City and last season in the UCL league they also played well, but many Arsenal players were tired. in the end they were no longer consistent in the end. season. This was also proven when they lost to Bayern Munich, in fact their game was quite good but they did not have reserve players who were the difference who could score goals in every match.

This is Arteta's main task next season, strengthening reserve players so that it is not impossible to be successful in UCL matches. It is true that they are not favored to win the UCL trophy next season, but in football anything can happen and luck definitely exists in football.

True! It's not an easy job , thus  IMO PSG lacks a better coach to be candid, even when they had a perfect squad  they couldn't win it(maybe too much of star player but I still feel they need a better coach).
Arsenal has what it takes to win the Champions league  if they could compete with Mancity, Mancity made it past the group stage in the last two years they won the championship once of the two years and and still compete with Arsenal in Premier league to still win it whereas  Arsenal couldn't even make it past the group stage, they really need to double their effor even if they want to win EPL next year

Mbappe was talked about a lot before the transfer, anyway, the transfer finally happened and Real Madrid got the center forward they were looking for, four-year contract, everything looks good.

For the Champions League, everyone generally says that a surprise team will come out and take the cup, but generally the cup hunter like Real Madrid usually carries the cup. They have strengthened their weapons this season, other teams are doing the same, there is still time for the transfer season to get more active.

So Mbappe signed for Real Madrid today but there aren't much talks about it on this thread. That's good to see, really. I know Madrid has taken the center stage this season as one of the biggest favorites to win it but I'm not buying it because that was what everyone thought about City during that last UCL that they'd make it  back to back UCL title wins because they won the PL in 4 consecutive seasons.
You just spoke my mind. The team to win it won't be the clear favorites that everybody is gunning for.  I'm personally tipping Liverpool to do it even if my choice is biased but who knows.

A team can win the champions league without winning their domestic leagues, Liverpool has done this before and Real Madrid the biggest winners of the championship league have lost their domestic league but won the champions league many times. Arsenal are capable of winning the champions league if they are determined and have a good squad depth. Arsenal always start their season very well but they start having issues when the season has gone half as they don't have quality players on the bench that they can use when their starting eleven isn't giving the coach the results he wants. Instead of trying to sign starting players that'll be very expensive, arsenal should hurt for backups.

So Arsenal are not capable enough to win the Champions League trophy and should focus more on the premier league? I don’t think so and if they do that they’re undermining their strength as a team. They should try and be at their best when participating in the two competitions so that they get use to it from now. If they don’t play and come out as their best in both competitions, how can they win more than one trophy in a season talk more of winning treble. I have a thing that Arsenal will win a trophy next season if they keep up with their performance or rather improve their performance, but I’m not certain which of the trophy they’ll get to win in the next season.

Winning the UCL trophy is likely a dream come through for Gunners, they have to improved in all sectors. Arsenal will continue to push for advanced stage but it will take more time than necessary because there's definitely alot happening. Mikel Arteta is been faced by the major hurdles which he's doing his possible best to endure he resolved and move for outstanding performance of the club. Arsenal have been competitive for the league title and we totally understand the club's involved.

And I think even the arsenal fans themselves know this because they have an outstanding issue that have been faced with them for time now and they can't seem to really get their finger wrapped around the issue which is the torment that Manchester city has given to them in terms of always snatching the premier league from them even with their very best effort and this is one of the major reason many feel they are not yet upto standard of winning the UCL.

I simply love this new format of UCL and I hope it won't be changed for a very long period of time  

It also reminds me a bit of the SuperLigue project right ? A lot of top teams from top countries that now have their chance to win UCL because before we all know there were 4-5 teams every year to actually fight for the trophy. I also believe that whoever wins UCL this year , won't be from City , Real , Barca or Inter and Bayern and most likely it will be a surprise team that will have a legendary run.

Arsenal have a long way to go when we engage in discussions about accomplishment of major titles like the UEFA Champions League. Don't get me wrong, Arsenal have promising future ahead but with the current form, they're only fighting for an upgrade to the main category of the winning team which is not easy at their end. We're talking about prominent clubs that have outstanding form and have possible odds of winning major titles before the tournament kicks off. There are more accessible options to explore and winning becomes a thing to bother about when a particular club have failed to meet targets.

Arsenal are not ready to win the Champions League because they don't have the key players that can challenge Real Madrid and Manchester City yet, so they can just be struggling in the league with Manchester City in the league and try to get the title, but if it comes to the Champions League, they can't get the opportunity next season to win because I'm just seeing that Real Madrid can be the favorite of winning the title, with the players in the team and Guadiola will try his best and stop anyone in the UCL next season, because am thinking he will just play one season with Manchester City, but I don't real sure about the news. Let see who will get the opportunity and win the title or Ancelotti will do back to back for Real Madrid and win others title in the competition.

They have many clubs that I see they are more better than Arsenal in the league because I am sure Chelsea are strong and don't think they can get the opportunity they had last season will happen again Chelsea are signing better that will make them stronger in the league and compete with other clubs in the competition, arsenal can just be doing good anytime they start the league but at the end they will start performing weakly and making other clubs get opportunities on them and defeating them in the league and topping them. Even though Arsenal is currently at the top, I believe they will fall and should focus on the EPL. They may not have a chance in the UCL but anything is possible in the upcoming season.

Arsenal is a very good team in the premier league but before they can think of winning the Champions League they first of all have to win the premiership as that will give them a boost to be able to be a strong contender in the champions league and for now, despite that Arsenal have one of the best squads in England, they still have a lot of works to do in building a strong and energetic team that can stand other stronger clubs like Real Madrid, Barcelona, Manchester City and others which will take a lot of commitment from the players and Mikel Arteta and they also need to make good signings especially in their midfield and the defense area, those are the most areas that Arsenal is lacking behind so if they can make a solid and strong defense i believe the attackers can do their job perfectly by scoring goals. Arsenal needs to be in a consistent form and win so many great clubs before they can reach the standards of winning the Champions League so it's definitely going to take a lot of time.

Previously I read Arteta's interview regarding the Gunners, the failures in the past will not be forgotten and he hopes that the pain will be a whip for his team to try again in the 2024/25 season by appearing much competitive. Arteta is very ambitious in targeting this season to win the Premier League, that's why Arsenal's focus is more on the Domestic League.

As for the Champions League, that doesn't mean Arteta ignores it. They will do their best to perform at their best in order to advance as far as they can, but the main priority is the Premier League. but it all depends on what opportunities they get, if Arsenal is able to progress to the last eight. It could be that Arteta will also be aiming for a trophy in this competition. But before they realize their mission and ambition, Arsenal needs several competent newcomers. If Arsenal gets a striker who is capable of scoring goals productively, they cannot be underestimated in this competition. although, there are many competitors who are much more favored. but at least, Arsenal is not an easy opponent to beat.

The competition in the Champions League is very competitive and even much tighter than what happened in the English League, especially when the match has entered the knockout stages, so it does take many factors to be able to compete until the Champions League final match, Arsenal we must admit that they have experienced a lot of improvement in their performance and also their consistency in the league even though they often lose focus in crucial matches in the league, but I think the improvement that has occurred to Arsenal still does not make them worthy of being the favorite to win the Champions League, as I said before, currently Arsenal does not have a mentality that is indeed an important factor in winning the Champions League or even the League, we can see how teams like PSG continue to fail in the Champions League even though their squad is full of star players so far but the mentality they have is no better than arsenal at the moment, arteta needs to continue to improve the mentality possessed by the current Arsenal players apart from improving the quality of their  squad.

You are right because that's one of the unique thing about real Madrid because they are always in a good relationship with there coach, which is one of the reasons why they are always in unity both in performance, with the kind of mindset and understanding they have they are always careful in terms of selecting the kind of players they would buy and so far they have been making a good choice on there recruitment and I believe they did not only buy Mbappe because of his performance on the field but also because he is a player that's very humble and has the kind of quality real Madrid possessed.

When a team has qualified for a competition, I don’t think their should be a reason why they shouldn’t prioritise the competition as one major one for them to win the trophy, if they do so, they’re reducing their strength and capability of a team to be able to withstand all conditions they find themselves in. When Arsenal plays in the champions league again next season, they should fight to win the Champions League title just like they’ll also fight for the premier league title. Their final aim might be achieved in the champions league and not in the premier league if they try to make things work for themselves in all situations they find themselves.


The scouting department of Real Madrid are doing a great job and it’s really paying off for them. They have the best squad in the world now and that is thanks to their thoughtful signings and consideration in signing for a long term project that every club wishes for. They’ve cut down their cost for every season and will maximise their gains for the next season because of how they’re going to be playing and looks like an unbeaten team to be when the season starts.

What Real Madrid and Manchester City have done will be difficult for Arsenal to imitate. Real Madrid have built a very solid squad over the years and of course they also have a winning mentality in the UCL. Manchester City has good finances so club management can give Guardiola the freedom to choose any player he likes and form a solid squad. Both are the best in the UCL at the moment. Arsenal will take a long time to be able to compete with Madrid or City. But I think the EPL is more realistic. They had good form and the league and only bad luck made them fail to win. This season Arsenal will become even more solid and I hope they can maintain consistency in their game this season.

I think Arteta has been a coach who generally meets Arsenal's expectations. I think he met the management's expectations from him. Of course, the championship is the main goal, but Arsenal has been a team that has tried to reach the championship every year it has played in the Premier League. This will probably continue with Arteta. It is impossible for him to leave Arsenal unless he wants to. Arteta is showing good management

It turns out that the playoff round to add 7 UCL participating teams is still very long. I read on Wikipedia that we are currently only entering the second qualifier and the playoffs will be held in August. This means that this process will still be very long. There are 52 teams that are fighting to be able to become 7 teams that are confirmed to qualify for the UCL next season accompanying 29 teams that have been confirmed to qualify.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_UEFA_Champions_League_qualifying_phase_and_play-off_round

There is still a lot to improve if Arsenal is to win the Champions League. I have to admit, in the last few seasons Arsenal have experienced an improvement in performance, but they also still have weaknesses in terms of their inability to maintain consistent performance. Arsenal often slip up in games they should be able to win, these mistakes make them always unable to compete with Manchester City in the race for the EPL title.

To win the UCL you need a squad that is able to maintain its performance in every match. Arsenal must learn more from the success achieved by Real Madrid and Manchester City if they want to win this most prestigious championship. Arsenal still needs time to compete with Real Madrid or other big clubs, maybe it's true as you said, Arsenal should focus on the EPL first, when they are able to win the title, they can increase their target to the UCL.