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November 19, 2024, 09:45:42 AM
The match between Bayern vs PSG will indeed be no less exciting than the Liverpool vs Real Madrid match. And actually Bayern and PSG both need points to improve their position and opportunities in the current phase. And PSG's position is actually much worse at the moment. But if Bayern loses to PSG in that match, Bayern and PSG's positions could change. I'm not sure which team to give preference to for this match. This is as difficult as predicting the Liverpool vs Real Madrid match.

Apart from that, I am also curious about the Sporting CP vs Arsenal match. because previously Sporting CP have could beat the giant from the premier league, namely Manchester City. And I'm curious whether Arsenal will have the same fate as Manchester City or not. It's just that there is something different about Sporting CP at the moment because they have lost their coach, Amorim, who preferred to move to Manchester United.
Bayern Munich vs PSG is hard to predict, Bayern Munich has 14 unbeaten record in home and in the upcoming match they will play in their home. But, Bayern Munich recently not score many goals, PSG performance aren't that bad. I think risking to bet under 2.5 seems worthy, usually when a big team vs big team, there will not be many goals.

Sporting CP vs Arsenal, the match will held in Sporting CP's home and Arsenal don't have a good results, Sporting CP will win.
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November 19, 2024, 09:40:49 AM
The new format implemented in the Champions League makes it a little difficult for Real Madrid to achieve maximum results because most of the teams they face are very difficult to beat. Previously they had lost two matches, this number may increase because in the remaining four matches they will face Liverpool and Atalanta. I am very skeptical that they can retain the title because their performance this season is very different from last season. After losing to Milan, they now have to fight hard to improve their position in the standings, but I am also very pessimistic that Real Madrid can win at Liverpool's headquarters.

This season has been a little extra for almost all the clubs that are participating and they don't want to create opportunities for anyone and there is nothing that Real Madrid would be able to do better this season and they will be facing Liverpool next so it's going to be a top notch game because of you look at the game between the two of them we are still finding it hard to know who is going to win yet and the people here with an upper hand of winning in this game is Liverpool ot maybe even get a draw.

And even if they are facing Atlanta, it is not a big deal compared to facing Liverpool, who appears to be on fire right now, and them losing 3–1 to Milan is just very disappointing. We know how Madrid used to be, and there is a lot going on with them right now. This is the worst that has happened to Madrid, and if they can lose to Milan, they will be able to win Madrid. How things changed very fast for them so this clearly shows that anything can happen in football.
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November 19, 2024, 09:24:54 AM
Matchday 5 does feature a big clash between Liverpool and Madrid, but before that I would also like to make sure that there is a Bayern Munich vs PSG match as an opener among other matches. PSG are on the edge of uncertainty because if they lose 3 points to Bayern Munich there is no chance of qualifying for the playoffs. PSG are in 25th place which means there is very little chance of them lasting longer in the Champions League and requires Enrique's men to fight with full strength later at the Allianz Arena.
The match between Bayern vs PSG will indeed be no less exciting than the Liverpool vs Real Madrid match. And actually Bayern and PSG both need points to improve their position and opportunities in the current phase. And PSG's position is actually much worse at the moment. But if Bayern loses to PSG in that match, Bayern and PSG's positions could change. I'm not sure which team to give preference to for this match. This is as difficult as predicting the Liverpool vs Real Madrid match.

Apart from that, I am also curious about the Sporting CP vs Arsenal match. because previously Sporting CP have could beat the giant from the premier league, namely Manchester City. And I'm curious whether Arsenal will have the same fate as Manchester City or not. It's just that there is something different about Sporting CP at the moment because they have lost their coach, Amorim, who preferred to move to Manchester United.
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November 19, 2024, 09:18:01 AM

Based on what we see, Liverpool's performance in the last 5 matches has been quite consistent in winning and Real Madrid has lost 2 times in the last 5 matches. In the Champions League, Real Madrid's performance is also a little different this season, unlike previous seasons which were able to achieve a convincing victory in the first round of the UCL, but if you look at the statistics of their meetings so far in the UCL, Madrid has always won matches against Liverpool, let's see if there will be a surprise in their meeting this time.
Considering rhe records that most times Madrid and Liverpool met in the UCLA Madrid has always won is the reason this time I foresee that a draw would be possible seeing that Madrid isn't in that their very perfect form as they used to, meanwhile last season Madrid had an unbeaten run in the group stage, so they had a more successful group stage last season than they are about having this season even if the variation is much in the number of games to play getting beyond this stage.
This season Real Madrid faced quite tough opponents in 8 matches and different while for previous seasons in the group stage Madrid faced weaker opponents than them that made Real Madrid undefeated in the group stage and always came out as champions in the group. However, this season is where Real Madrid's performance is tested whether they can defend the UCL title if they face tough clubs at the beginning to continue to advance to the next round.
Real Madrid are already not in good form then this match will be played at Anfield stadium so I don't see much hope for Real Madrid in this match. I had confidence in Real Madrid until the big defeat against AC Milan, but since AC Milan beat Real Madrid by a big margin, I don't think it will be too difficult for Liverpool. But Real Madrid have had plenty of time to compose themselves and work on their mistakes before taking on Liverpool after their big defeat against AC Miller. Real Madrid will also have a good chance against Liverpool if they can plan properly and mark Liverpool's weak points well. But Real Madrid knows that this match is very important for them and they have performed well in such important matches before so Madrid fans can expect a win.
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November 19, 2024, 09:05:08 AM
You don't have to be nervous as a Madrid fan, Madrid have had more challenging situations worse than this especially those days of home and away games yet they pulled through. Given the pedigree and the calibre of players in Madrid, I'm not even moved by statistics been presented as Liverpool stance at the moment. That El classico game was a one off mistake that I believe won't repeat itself, at least we know the caliber of players currently in Barcelona and what they can do so I believe next time they will prepare better. Since you're optimistic about Real Madrid stands concerning the game, then you shouldn't be nervous as Madrid will do what they know how to do best.
Real Madrid's recent performances have left many Real Madrid fans nervous. Real Madrid fans are very nervous especially after Real Madrid lost at home to Barcelona and AC Milan. Real Madrid will face Liverpool in their next match in the UEFA Champions League. Real Madrid will face a stronger test in this match as Liverpool have been in great form in La Liga this season. Liverpool have managed to win all the matches they have faced against the opposition in La Liga this season. As a result, many are predicting that Liverpool football team will be able to continue their winning streak against Real Madrid.
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November 19, 2024, 08:52:49 AM

The new format implemented in the Champions League makes it a little difficult for Real Madrid to achieve maximum results because most of the teams they face are very difficult to beat. Previously they had lost two matches, this number may increase because in the remaining four matches they will face Liverpool and Atalanta. I am very skeptical that they can retain the title because their performance this season is very different from last season. After losing to Milan, they now have to fight hard to improve their position in the standings, but I am also very pessimistic that Real Madrid can win at Liverpool's headquarters.

Well everyone is entitled to their opinion and how they choose to analyzes the beautiful game of football. But on a more realistic view and judging by both team current forms and mood in the dressing room, Liverpool are more equipped to win Real Madrid. I don't know what is making some people think that Real Madrid will win at Anfield. But after taking my time to analyse the game and considering the current realities surrounding both teams Liverpool will come up with a comprehensive win against Madrid.

Although I know that football sometimes can surprise us, with unimaginable outcome of results. But this current Liverpool team has the ability to win Madrid than for Madrid to win them. The only place I agree with you is that Madrid can't retain the champions League title this season because they are not getting the results. Maybe the new champions League format is too much for them to absorb. So far only Liverpool and Barcelona are showing signs of being worthy of the champions League title this season.
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November 19, 2024, 08:44:43 AM
This season Real Madrid faced quite tough opponents in 8 matches and different while for previous seasons in the group stage Madrid faced weaker opponents than them that made Real Madrid undefeated in the group stage and always came out as champions in the group. However, this season is where Real Madrid's performance is tested whether they can defend the UCL title if they face tough clubs at the beginning to continue to advance to the next round.
With the new format of the current Champions League, many strong clubs have been brought together earlier. And Real Madrid was no exception, they were also met with several strong clubs from the start. Especially Dortmund and AC Milan. Real Madrid managed to beat Dortmund but then failed when facing AC Milan. And actually the most difficult match may be the next match against Liverpool. And unfortunately, after fighting Liverpool, Real Madrid also had to face Atalanta, which was also quite stable in Serie A. Real Madrid's journey was quite tough in the UCL. It's just that it wasn't just Real Madrid that was met with a strong team from the start. Because the other teams are the same.
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November 19, 2024, 08:28:18 AM
Matchday 5 does feature a big clash between Liverpool and Madrid, but before that I would also like to make sure that there is a Bayern Munich vs PSG match as an opener among other matches. PSG are on the edge of uncertainty because if they lose 3 points to Bayern Munich there is no chance of qualifying for the playoffs. PSG are in 25th place which means there is very little chance of them lasting longer in the Champions League and requires Enrique's men to fight with full strength later at the Allianz Arena.
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November 19, 2024, 07:54:15 AM
Liverpool have the advantage of being the host, apart from their slightly more consistent performance than Real Madrid at this time. Player injuries have affected Real Madrid chances of getting full points, and perhaps Liverpool will take advantage of this to get revenge and improve their previous meeting record. Regardless, beating Real Madrid is not an easy job, Arne Slot needs to work hard to do it. The match feels very important for Real Madrid, losing points will make their steps towards the last 16 even more difficult.

No one expected Arne Slott to be able to do his job very well, he managed to lead Liverpool to the top of the Premier League and Champions League standings. Real Madrid will be a tough test for them, and it can be said that the match is basically difficult to predict.
Liverpool is currently in a fairly safe situation in the UCL. Because they have never lost in this phase. So I think Liverpool will play without pressure and they can play better thanks to the calm they will have. Meanwhile, Real Madrid will really play with a lot of pressure. Because they have to win and collect points so they can increase their chances of qualifying for the next stage. And it would be very bad if Real Madrid lost points again in the match against Liverpool. Because Real Madrid could be pushed out of the play-off zone. Madrid currently only has 6 points and is very different from Liverpool who have collected 12 points. And yes, Liverpool's position as host will also benefit Liverpool. And Liverpool certainly also has the ambition to end their losing record so far when facing Real Madrid.
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November 19, 2024, 07:34:31 AM
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To be fair Liverpool had a season where they won a lot more games, whereas Real Madrid hasn't been that great all season long so far. If we want exact numbers, Liverpool ended up winning 9 out of 11 games and made 28 points during that time at premier league, with 4 out of 4 games won at UCL as well. Whereas, Real Madrid had 12 games and they won only 8 of them and have 27 points, in la liga, so Liverpool made 1 more point in 1 less game at a much harder league, and at UCL we see Real Madrid be ranked 18th with 2 wins and 2 losses, when Liverpool is ranked first there.

So as we can see, both in league and in champions league, Liverpool is doing much better and that is why Liverpool is considered as the heavy favourites here, and I am guessing they will win too. Doesn't mean Real can't win, we could definitely see Real Madrid winning as well, we are just not going to end up seeing anything that simple at all right away, we need to make sure things are looking a bit better for real first but a shocking result or unexpected results do happen and this could be one of those.

Thank you, we really understand that Liverpool is more favored based on the betting exchange compared to its opponent in the Champions League group stage session 5. In the previous discussion, I tried to discuss asking about the parameters that underlie Real Madrid being more favored. However, it does not mean that Madrid has no chance of defeating Liverpool at Anfield, but Real Madrid's current situation is not in its best form. In addition, several important Madrid players must be absent due to injury. So, it is natural that Liverpool is slightly more favored based on the betting exchange. Well, I see that in the 5th session of the group stage, the Liverpool vs Madrid match is one of the more interesting matches that will steal the attention of many football lovers. Not only for supporters of both teams, but also interesting for us neutral supporters. Before this match approaches the day, I will not speculate too far or try to predict the results, after all, the odds can change closer to the schedule of the meeting between the two teams.
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November 19, 2024, 07:32:13 AM
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This season Real Madrid faced quite tough opponents in 8 matches and different while for previous seasons in the group stage Madrid faced weaker opponents than them that made Real Madrid undefeated in the group stage and always came out as champions in the group. However, this season is where Real Madrid's performance is tested whether they can defend the UCL title if they face tough clubs at the beginning to continue to advance to the next round.
The new format implemented in the Champions League makes it a little difficult for Real Madrid to achieve maximum results because most of the teams they face are very difficult to beat. Previously they had lost two matches, this number may increase because in the remaining four matches they will face Liverpool and Atalanta. I am very skeptical that they can retain the title because their performance this season is very different from last season. After losing to Milan, they now have to fight hard to improve their position in the standings, but I am also very pessimistic that Real Madrid can win at Liverpool's headquarters.
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Based on what we see, Liverpool's performance in the last 5 matches has been quite consistent in winning and Real Madrid has lost 2 times in the last 5 matches. In the Champions League, Real Madrid's performance is also a little different this season, unlike previous seasons which were able to achieve a convincing victory in the first round of the UCL, but if you look at the statistics of their meetings so far in the UCL, Madrid has always won matches against Liverpool, let's see if there will be a surprise in their meeting this time.
If you look at the head to head of both teams, Real Madrid is superior, but if you look at the performance of both teams in the Champions League this season, Liverpool is superior, even Liverpool so far is the only team that has managed to achieve perfect results in the Champions League without defeat and without a draw. This match will certainly be interesting to look forward to, there will definitely be a surprise in this match, whether Liverpool will be able to achieve the victory that has been difficult for them to get when playing against Real Madrid, or Real Madrid will make a surprise with limited players due to injuries and their unstable game rhythm.

But actually Liverpool has a great chance to win this match by taking advantage of Real Madrid's current weaknesses. The reason is, Real Madrid is currently experiencing a player crisis due to injuries that have caused 9 of its players to be absent due to fitness problems. Lastly before the international break, Real Madrid added one more injured player, namely Eder Militao which made him absent for the rest of this season. So it can be said that Real Madrid is facing Liverpool with an incomplete squad due to a crisis in the defensive position. If Liverpool can take advantage of Real Madrid's weaknesses like this, I am sure Liverpool can win this match and strengthen their position at the top of the standings.
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November 19, 2024, 06:52:12 AM
This season Real Madrid faced quite tough opponents in 8 matches and different while for previous seasons in the group stage Madrid faced weaker opponents than them that made Real Madrid undefeated in the group stage and always came out as champions in the group. However, this season is where Real Madrid's performance is tested whether they can defend the UCL title if they face tough clubs at the beginning to continue to advance to the next round.
This season's group stage is different because it uses a new format in the Champions League and maybe Real Madrid's consistency is not going well because they lost some important players in the team. The last five matches showed the best quality for Liverpool and they are much more favored to win the match and this will be a very crucial match where Real Madrid will visit Liverpool's headquarters with unstable strength.

It is indeed difficult to predict this match because even though Real Madrid is in inconsistent condition, they are a little different when facing opponents who are much more balanced in the Champions League. I think a draw will be a much better final result for Real Madrid because if they force an attacking game they will not be strong enough to withstand Liverpool's attacks.
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November 19, 2024, 04:44:52 AM

Based on what we see, Liverpool's performance in the last 5 matches has been quite consistent in winning and Real Madrid has lost 2 times in the last 5 matches. In the Champions League, Real Madrid's performance is also a little different this season, unlike previous seasons which were able to achieve a convincing victory in the first round of the UCL, but if you look at the statistics of their meetings so far in the UCL, Madrid has always won matches against Liverpool, let's see if there will be a surprise in their meeting this time.
Considering rhe records that most times Madrid and Liverpool met in the UCLA Madrid has always won is the reason this time I foresee that a draw would be possible seeing that Madrid isn't in that their very perfect form as they used to, meanwhile last season Madrid had an unbeaten run in the group stage, so they had a more successful group stage last season than they are about having this season even if the variation is much in the number of games to play getting beyond this stage.
This season Real Madrid faced quite tough opponents in 8 matches and different while for previous seasons in the group stage Madrid faced weaker opponents than them that made Real Madrid undefeated in the group stage and always came out as champions in the group. However, this season is where Real Madrid's performance is tested whether they can defend the UCL title if they face tough clubs at the beginning to continue to advance to the next round.
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November 18, 2024, 04:31:09 PM
I don't understand a little bit about the basis of the parameters that Madrid should be favored over Liverpool, especially if we refer to Madrid's 2 matches in the Champions League. Madrid previously lost narrowly at Lillie's home, then fell at the Santiago Bernabeu by Milan. in the 5th round of the preliminary phase Madrid will visit Liverpool's headquarters, unfortunately some of their core players must be absent due to injury. as we all know, if Madrid needs full points against Liverpool. even so, Carlo Ancelotti's team still has the probability of bringing home 3 points to Santiago Bernabeu, unfortunately it won't be easy as we discussed. we can assume that Carlo Ancelotti will likely be aiming for victory for his team even though they are playing at Liverpool's headquarters. unfortunately, Rodrygo, Vazquez, Carvajal, Tchouameni, Alaba and Courtois did not participate in strengthening Real Madrid in this match. I think it's quite hard for Don Carlo to formulate a strategy so that his team can get full points, but in any case Real Madrid does need a win to determine the remaining matches they will play. In Liverpool's camp, this match is equally important when they will host City after meeting Madrid. As we generally know, Liverpool had a bad meeting based on H2H when playing against Madrid. As a new coach, Arne Slot certainly wants his team to win this match, especially since they are playing at home. They have the opportunity to defeat Madrid, plus Liverpool is on the right track. So, if Liverpool is slightly more favored, it is natural if we refer to both teams. Regarding the results of this match, that is another matter, we will find out when the 5th session of the Champions League qualifiers is held again.
To be fair Liverpool had a season where they won a lot more games, whereas Real Madrid hasn't been that great all season long so far. If we want exact numbers, Liverpool ended up winning 9 out of 11 games and made 28 points during that time at premier league, with 4 out of 4 games won at UCL as well. Whereas, Real Madrid had 12 games and they won only 8 of them and have 27 points, in la liga, so Liverpool made 1 more point in 1 less game at a much harder league, and at UCL we see Real Madrid be ranked 18th with 2 wins and 2 losses, when Liverpool is ranked first there.

So as we can see, both in league and in champions league, Liverpool is doing much better and that is why Liverpool is considered as the heavy favourites here, and I am guessing they will win too. Doesn't mean Real can't win, we could definitely see Real Madrid winning as well, we are just not going to end up seeing anything that simple at all right away, we need to make sure things are looking a bit better for real first but a shocking result or unexpected results do happen and this could be one of those.
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November 18, 2024, 04:22:48 PM
We just need to see if in the end Liverpool are able to carry out a revenge mission or not because indeed for now Liverpool's condition is more stable but when talking about the h2h of the two clubs then Madrid is still very superior for now and that cannot be denied.

I personally feel that this will be a good match to wait for but when talking about the results and expectations of who will win in this match then I will remain in Madrid as the choice to be the winner.

Even though this seems imposing but I'm still not too sure if Liverpool can end their phase that has never been able to win against Madrid in the last few matches. Although currently Slot is a new coach but the majority of players remain the same so I still have high hopes for Madrid.


Liverpool have the advantage of being the host, apart from their slightly more consistent performance than Real Madrid at this time. Player injuries have affected Real Madrid chances of getting full points, and perhaps Liverpool will take advantage of this to get revenge and improve their previous meeting record. Regardless, beating Real Madrid is not an easy job, Arne Slot needs to work hard to do it. The match feels very important for Real Madrid, losing points will make their steps towards the last 16 even more difficult.

No one expected Arne Slott to be able to do his job very well, he managed to lead Liverpool to the top of the Premier League and Champions League standings. Real Madrid will be a tough test for them, and it can be said that the match is basically difficult to predict.
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November 18, 2024, 03:27:47 PM
Real Madrid have a good record against Liverpool in the Champions League, but I tend to doubt that they can maintain that record this season. Liverpool's performance this season has really improved under the guidance of Arne Slot, but this is not a definite benchmark that they can stop the series of defeats when they meet Real Madrid in the Champions League.

We just need to see if in the end Liverpool are able to carry out a revenge mission or not because indeed for now Liverpool's condition is more stable but when talking about the h2h of the two clubs then Madrid is still very superior for now and that cannot be denied.

I personally feel that this will be a good match to wait for but when talking about the results and expectations of who will win in this match then I will remain in Madrid as the choice to be the winner.

Even though this seems imposing but I'm still not too sure if Liverpool can end their phase that has never been able to win against Madrid in the last few matches. Although currently Slot is a new coach but the majority of players remain the same so I still have high hopes for Madrid.

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Considering rhe records that most times Madrid and Liverpool met in the UCLA Madrid has always won is the reason this time I foresee that a draw would be possible seeing that Madrid isn't in that their very perfect form as they used to, meanwhile last season Madrid had an unbeaten run in the group stage, so they had a more successful group stage last season than they are about having this season even if the variation is much in the number of games to play getting beyond this stage.
Real Madrid have a good record against Liverpool in the Champions League, but I tend to doubt that they can maintain that record this season. Liverpool's performance this season has really improved under the guidance of Arne Slot, but this is not a definite benchmark that they can stop the series of defeats when they meet Real Madrid in the Champions League.

Real Madrid's performance this season is different compared to last season and this is an important factor in analyzing the course of the match and its results. Many people tend to favor Liverpool to win the match, but on the other hand, Real Madrid has the strength to continue its positive trend. We'll see how the match ends.
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November 18, 2024, 03:09:17 PM

It may seem like an exaggeration, but Liverpool doesn't seem like they're a little bit superior, they seem like they're clearly superior. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I see right now. Even though Liverpool usually lose to Real Madrid in the Champions League, I believe that this will be the time when they will win. Liverpool will slow down Real Madrid with their intense passing game and they will create good chances.
I will love to see that happen  but on a normal scale judging with current performance from both side I don't see a reason why Liverpool should loose to realmadrid this time around. Hence , if they eventually do then I don't think they are worthy of that championship title... I know football can be full of surprise but If Liverpool can't manage to win realmadrid with their current situation, at home  then I don't know how they want to win UCL... tbh this is just IMHO, realmadrid might play hard to win them but I expect Liverpool to win them so as ro proof their worth this time around.
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November 18, 2024, 02:37:00 PM
What we are not realizing about Real Madrid is the injuries as well. Everyone jumps on ship to say whatever bad thing they want to say about them, but they have/had a lot of injuries this season. Some of them recovered, but they had a first month that was terrible and there were like 10 players missing, now we are seeing some other players missing as well, they are really having trouble.

I do not know what kind of training they do to cause this much trouble for players neither, but I believe that they need to be careful about their training, they need to focus on recovery for the players because they already train a lot, so recovery is a lot more important after games and if they could do that then we could see them have a much better result, these injuries are the only reason they are this bad. If they didn't have these injuries and all of Real Madrid players were fully healthy then I guarantee you that they will be able to beat everyone.
Real Madrid would not be the first not the last to have had such a terrible experience as they did this season but it was very nice to see how they managed to scale through those horrible scenarios to where they are now yet looking good, this goes a long way to show that indeed they are a good team with an extraordinary manager who knows how to manage such situations and i hope such a situation never occurs again in the future.

 Right now they getting out of it gradually and some players are getting ready to return from injury which is going to be a boost to the team as the campaign continues to intensify.
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