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November 07, 2024, 09:01:49 PM
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You are right Champions League always has surprises. Experienced team loss was unexpected and probably surprised many people who bet on game. New format has made competition even more unpredictable. Aston Villa loss to Brugge was shocking especially since Brugge is not as good as Aston Villa. Aston Villa had perfect record until Tyrone Mings made a mistake that led to a penalty. This loss will make their next game against Juventus more difficult.
Even Real Madrid the defending champions were affected by the new format. Real Madrid, who were previously very strong in the group stage, had to fight hard to qualify for the round of 16 after only being able to get 6 points from 4 matches. Real Madrid next opponent is Liverpool who are currently at the top of the Premier League and Champions League standings, the match will be played at Anfield, based on the results achieved in the previous two matches, Real Madrid will have a hard time when facing Liverpool. If they lose, they will be in the relegation zone.
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November 07, 2024, 08:30:13 PM
True. The defeat of an experienced team in the Champions League was unexpected and I am sure many gamblers failed to win. This is the Champions League that always makes it interesting, always giving unexpected surprises. But to be honest, the surprises that occurred in the Champions League this season were one of the factors because of the new format.

In addition, there was actually something more interesting in the 4th match of the Champions League yesterday, namely the defeat of Aston Villa. Even though they had the opportunity to maintain their unbeaten record in the Champions League because their opponents, Brugge, could be said to be far below their quality, and Brugge's game was mediocre. Aston Villa should have won, even though they didn't win, at least they could draw. But in reality they lost because of a silly mistake made by Tyrone Mings which resulted in a penalty. One defeat will certainly have an impact on the next match, and the next match is against Juventus.
You are right Champions League always has surprises. Experienced team loss was unexpected and probably surprised many people who bet on game. New format has made competition even more unpredictable. Aston Villa loss to Brugge was shocking especially since Brugge is not as good as Aston Villa. Aston Villa had perfect record until Tyrone Mings made a mistake that led to a penalty. This loss will make their next game against Juventus more difficult.
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November 07, 2024, 08:15:47 PM
Last season, Liverpool had a lot more injured players, but Klopp managed the situation better than Pep. I think Pep has a plan to turn things around, but I believe he will make an expensive signing when January comes.
I thought so too, but it's not easy to build a team in the middle of a session. He will face the best player he wants who is under contract with a defending club. Most likely he will get fail to recruit player he want and maybe will use a resemble-player where approach with his strategy. I think what he can do now is release unimportant competition. It's real what he's doing before, They released the Carabao Cup and gave the winning to Tottenham. Yup, when I watch how the Manchester City squad expression on the bench when they missed 2 goals in 1st half, it seems like they really want that Carabao Cup to go on the list, and want to play important completion like the Champions League and Premier League only.
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November 07, 2024, 07:44:38 PM
Yesterday match of Bayern vs Benfica team, Bayern team won the match by scoring 1 goal. Benfica team could not score any goal in this match. Benfica team players tried hard to score but could not score any goal.  However, Benfica team could have drawn this match. The performance of the Bayern team players was really good for which Benfica team could not score any goals in this match.
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November 07, 2024, 07:02:19 PM
This season UCL often presents surprises for us, we can see how teams like munich, madrid, PSG and even manchester city have experienced current defeats from teams weaker than them, so this shows if the change in the UCL format has had a significant impact on the chances of the favourite teams, so far madrid is considered the ruler of Europe and it is very reasonable given their consistency in winning trophies, but this season it seems they are really in bad condition and phase both in the league and UCL.

Yeah too much surprise for us. All of the top teams are losing their games, except Barcelona. This season I strongly believe that Barcelona will be the champion of UEFA champions league title. Because all the top clubs have lost confidence, even Real Madrid, which is known as the King of Europe and ex-champion, played so poorly against Milan. 
 
But anyway let's see who makes a comeback and makes his bad form better. Barcelona is the only team that is playing super dominant this season. I think if they maintain with continued and consistency in the knockout stages as well, So I hope this Hansi Flick side can become champion this season.
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November 07, 2024, 06:39:13 PM
Thw defeats of all these top experienced champions League teams are really a surprise to most persons which is very much understandable because usually these top teams are so experienced in the champions League that ordinarily at this stage they should be Acing their games but the sad reality is far from that. As for Madrid the situation is looking even critical because away from the injury, players don't seem to understand themselves enough again and they appear to have lost their rhythm at some point.

True. The defeat of an experienced team in the Champions League was unexpected and I am sure many gamblers failed to win. This is the Champions League that always makes it interesting, always giving unexpected surprises. But to be honest, the surprises that occurred in the Champions League this season were one of the factors because of the new format.

In addition, there was actually something more interesting in the 4th match of the Champions League yesterday, namely the defeat of Aston Villa. Even though they had the opportunity to maintain their unbeaten record in the Champions League because their opponents, Brugge, could be said to be far below their quality, and Brugge's game was mediocre. Aston Villa should have won, even though they didn't win, at least they could draw. But in reality they lost because of a silly mistake made by Tyrone Mings which resulted in a penalty. One defeat will certainly have an impact on the next match, and the next match is against Juventus.
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November 07, 2024, 06:36:00 PM

PSG may not have brought in any famous players so far this season, but at least they have spent €169.92 million to fulfill the coach's needs for players. PSG have a big safe goal in the Champions League, but things are not going smoothly for them. In the end, all PSG's efforts will only fail even though they spent hundreds of millions to strengthen the team, but it never paid off.

I don't agree if you say that PSG is not focused on the Champions League and only focuses on the domestic league, in fact PSG places its main focus on the Champions League which so far has not even experienced how to lift the title. Luis Enrique was brought in to launch the team's plans to win the Champions League title, but the existing squad depth was basically never enough to expect something big in the Champions League.
PSG biggest dream will be to win at least 1 champions league title, they've won the league title many times so I do agree about the main focus on UCL but even with the main focus, they still haven't even proof any sign of  qualification for it ... When there was even enough resources they couldn't still make it happen, imagine having Messi, Neymar,Mbappe,Ramos, Hkimi, marquinhos, Veratti ,Kimpembe.... and still couldn't make use of the resource to archive  a sole purpose of bringing such starts together Tongue. Though I don't know the squad depth when Enrique started but as at the moment the squad is not a squad that can win Champions league
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November 07, 2024, 06:15:29 PM
In my opinion, it seems that the PSG management is not very concerned about the Champions League. We just have to see that they did not rush to buy very famous players with the aim of winning the European Champions League. They lost Mbappe but still did not spend much money on buying players. This shows that they are now looking to make a profit and will focus on internal competitions in France. They are probably acting this way because they spent a lot of money on Neymar, Messi and Mbappe and did not win the European Champions League. So it makes sense that now they are not spending a lot of money on signing good players and are focusing more on Ligue 1.

If that is what they have in mind, I won’t really blame them that much. To sign three amongst the nets players in the world at a time in the same club all was something spectacular and everyone would have expected a great outcome from that which only went on to no avail. Mbappe is a very smart and talented player when he was in PSG, he was at his peak and never would one thought that with the addition of Messi and Neymar, they can ever fail short of winning the champions league title that time. They may have changed their focus to the Ligue 1 games only because their position on the champions league standings is poor and they don’t look like a team that wants to do something about it.


In my opinion Arsenal still has a big chance in UCL they have only experienced 1 defeat from 4 matches, yesterday's defeat was against a big Serie A team and as an away team it is very natural to have difficulty winning the match or at least bringing home 1 point besides their game yesterday was also not bad being 1 goal behind they tried to rise, we see Inter was only able to match Arsenal's game in the first half entering the second half Inter only focused on maintaining the advantage and it must be admitted their defense is very solid. I have often said that Arsenal does not have a number 9 player who is hungry for goals and lacks mentality, that's all they lack at the moment.

You have just mentioned what Arsenal lacked and if they don’t have what they lack, there is no way they’re going to make it to the champions league title racer. Their problems are yet to be solved without a number nine that would be able to convert many chances for them. They may have experienced only one defeat in their last four games but that result is still not convincing enough to see them as a team to hope for the champions league trophy. They need to improve and win all of their remaining four games in the group stage if they want to compete for the champions league title amongst other top teams in the competition.
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November 07, 2024, 06:04:53 PM
This season UCL often presents surprises for us, we can see how teams like munich, madrid, PSG and even manchester city have experienced current defeats from teams weaker than them, so this shows if the change in the UCL format has had a significant impact on the chances of the favourite teams, so far madrid is considered the ruler of Europe and it is very reasonable given their consistency in winning trophies, but this season it seems they are really in bad condition and phase both in the league and UCL.

Thw defeats of all these top experienced champions League teams are really a surprise to most persons which is very much understandable because usually these top teams are so experienced in the champions League that ordinarily at this stage they should be Acing their games but the sad reality is far from that. As for Madrid the situation is looking even critical because away from the injury, players don't seem to understand themselves enough again and they appear to have lost their rhythm at some point.
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November 07, 2024, 05:30:02 PM
Last season, Liverpool had a lot more injured players, but Klopp managed the situation better than Pep. I think Pep has a plan to turn things around, but I believe he will make an expensive signing when January comes.

Pep has stuck to this plan throughout his career  Grin and it's no surprise that he became the first manager to break the €2 billion mark in transfer spending.
As for the current results, so far everything is going as I expected - the group stage is a mess that few take seriously. In fact, serious games will only begin in the playoffs.
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November 07, 2024, 05:07:09 PM
PSG are always like this: dominating their domestic league Ligue 1, failing in Champions League. This season looks to be worse than previous seasons if they end the group phase too bad and won't have opportunity to play play-off matches. It will be a first season after many years, PSG have to end their journey in a Champions League season shortly after a group phase.

If they end their journey in Champions League in this season like this, it will be a very big shock. They no longer have Mbappe but even so, they have many good players and can at least go to a first knock out phase. Low quality matches in Ligue 1 affect PSG players when they play in Champions League.

In my opinion, it seems that the PSG management is not very concerned about the Champions League. We just have to see that they did not rush to buy very famous players with the aim of winning the European Champions League. They lost Mbappe but still did not spend much money on buying players. This shows that they are now looking to make a profit and will focus on internal competitions in France. They are probably acting this way because they spent a lot of money on Neymar, Messi and Mbappe and did not win the European Champions League. So it makes sense that now they are not spending a lot of money on signing good players and are focusing more on Ligue 1.
If you look at PSG's transfer this season, PSG doesn't seem to want to rush to chase the Champions League trophy by buying star players. They seem to want to learn from other European teams by going through the process of building a basic foundation with their young players under the guidance of coach Enrique. So that if one day it succeeds, it is more proud than buying top players but still failing to get the Champions League trophy. IMO

If you look at the PSG vs Atletico Madrid match, PSG actually played very well, and they also dominated the course of the match, it's just that Simeone's tactics were crazy even though from the start Atletico Madrid were continuously attacked by PSG and Atletico Madrid only defended by relying on counterattacks in the end they were able to win. Diego Simeone was able to overcome Luis Enrique's tactics in a dramatic, cool way. The best Champions League Matchday 4.

Although Lenglet made a mistake and PSG players immediately punished him into a goal, but not long after Atletico replied and finally Molina scored, and it was even more exciting but Atletico was able to score a goal in the final minutes thanks to a counterattack. In this match, it must also be acknowledged that Oblak is a world-class goalkeeper, he saved Atletico's goal several times.
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November 07, 2024, 04:37:43 PM
I expected it, as too many injuries would lead to this.

Last season, Liverpool had a lot more injured players, but Klopp managed the situation better than Pep. I think Pep has a plan to turn things around, but I believe he will make an expensive signing when January comes.
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November 07, 2024, 04:21:59 PM
In my opinion, it seems that the PSG management is not very concerned about the Champions League. We just have to see that they did not rush to buy very famous players with the aim of winning the European Champions League. They lost Mbappe but still did not spend much money on buying players. This shows that they are now looking to make a profit and will focus on internal competitions in France. They are probably acting this way because they spent a lot of money on Neymar, Messi and Mbappe and did not win the European Champions League. So it makes sense that now they are not spending a lot of money on signing good players and are focusing more on Ligue 1.

PSG wasn’t supposed to give up in the Champions League. It has been long that they are buying bigger players to get the championship of the Champions League, but they were not able, which means they still need to put in more effort and force so that they can get their dreams. But losing games against teams that they are not supposed to be losing against is not encouraging at all. Just take a look at what happened yesterday; they were not supposed to lose the home game against Atletico Madrid, but they lost. Although they struggle to get more goals, they just keep losing opportunities, which is not encouraging at all.

Moreover, as you said, they are really trying in League 1, because they are leading the table with 26 points, which is a nice idea. At least they will be able to add more trophy to their league 1 trophies.
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November 07, 2024, 04:18:23 PM

Yeah overall Arsenal played well in the Champions League, even though they lost in the last fight Arsenal performance was still pretty good and Inter Milan can be called Lucky scored one goal through a penalty. I'm sure Arsenal will go to the next round whether it is through a ticket or through a playoff, what is clear is that in my opinion the Premier League teams will take 2-3 places there Liverpool and Arsenal or Manchester City. There are only 4 matches left so that each team must continue to compete, especially the teams that lose many points in yesterday's match.
Arsenal are one of the favorites to progress to the last 16 of this season's Champions League, so yesterday's defeat to Inter should not affect their chances significantly. Barcelona on the other hand has increased their probability of being one of the favorite teams to qualify for the round of 16 too, of course because they are getting better with their performance so far.

So far Liverpool, Sporting, Monaco, Brest and Inter are the 5 best teams who are unbeaten in the last 4 matches in the Champions League. Manchester City lost badly to Sporting, Real Madrid also lost to Milan, as did PSG. Bayern Munich won narrowly over Benfica, that was enough to boost the motivation of the team that was destroyed by Barcelona in the previous match.
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November 07, 2024, 04:14:20 PM
In my opinion, it seems that the PSG management is not very concerned about the Champions League. We just have to see that they did not rush to buy very famous players with the aim of winning the European Champions League. They lost Mbappe but still did not spend much money on buying players. This shows that they are now looking to make a profit and will focus on internal competitions in France. They are probably acting this way because they spent a lot of money on Neymar, Messi and Mbappe and did not win the European Champions League. So it makes sense that now they are not spending a lot of money on signing good players and are focusing more on Ligue 1.

From the position they are in on the table it shows that they are serious not interested in winning anything this season, and both psg and mbappe because since mbappe left psg both have changed and they have all been struggling to even be able to score mbappe is finding it difficult because him coming to Madrid makes everyone excited but now everyone is getting irritated by what mbappe is doing after the whole praise that his talent will go well for Madrid, and if they want to buy any famous player is their money, and if it will help improve the performance of the club the their is nothing for anyone to say about their performance.

And any club that is focusing of making money and not profits then they will have challenges in there performance and that is why they have to decide the one they want if is to make profits or they want to focus on the competition because that is the most important but they don't want to even show as if they are concern about the situation. And truly they have spent money on players just to improve their own performance.
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November 07, 2024, 04:06:01 PM
Although Arsenal lost to Inter Milan, Arteta squad actually collected more points than Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, two teams that are far more favored to win the title almost every season. Moreover, Arsenal also has the same number of points as Manchester City, their strongest rival in the Premier League and also favored to win the Champions League. This is not to underestimate anyone, nor to defend Arsenal, but it is an honest assessment. Looking at the overall situation, not only Arsenal, but even the favored teams have struggled to create consistency this season. Therefore, it is not wrong to say that Arsenal still have a chance, but at the same time, their performance is not better than last season.

Yeah overall Arsenal played well in the Champions League, even though they lost in the last fight Arsenal performance was still pretty good and Inter Milan can be called Lucky scored one goal through a penalty. I'm sure Arsenal will go to the next round whether it is through a ticket or through a playoff, what is clear is that in my opinion the Premier League teams will take 2-3 places there Liverpool and Arsenal or Manchester City. There are only 4 matches left so that each team must continue to compete, especially the teams that lose many points in yesterday's match.

Arsenal and Manchester City are one of the best teams in Europe, yet they failed in this round. This might look bad but certainly their coaches will fix this issue and they will comeback in the remaining games.
In fact, this round has multiple bad results for other good teams, especially PSG and Real Madrid but also Leipzig, Juve and Bayer Leverkusen. No need to mention Aston Villa defeat and the silly mistake of their defender.
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November 07, 2024, 03:53:46 PM
Arsenal have been having a tough time in the Premier League, but they played really well against Inter last night. I know they lost the game, but Arsenal deserved to win, they were just unlucky. If they keep playing like this, they will have a winning streak.
Arsenal are unlucky then they will not get points, it is Inter Milan who are fortunate or can be said to be lucky with a goal through Penalty.
What is more difficult is Inter Milan's solid defense including the goalkeeper so Arsenal are difficult to find space to score goals, in the game it is clear that it is far from Inter Milan.

It is high time that sports bet gamblers should understand that there is shift in the initial arrangement of some of this clubs. Some of the top performing clubs have began to lose matches in consecutive terms. Take for example Manchester City who has lost some consecutive matches which has not happened to them since 2018.
The same scenario is sin playing at in Real Madrid which has made Ancelotti to be somehow frustrated or confused. I think they have lost some consecutive matches also.
So we should not be surprised if Arsenal is also following the same foot steps. These are top and hot teams that have been informed for the past three seasons. So before the bounce back to their good form we should try to avoid them while placing bet.
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November 07, 2024, 03:21:13 PM
Although Arsenal lost to Inter Milan, Arteta squad actually collected more points than Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, two teams that are far more favored to win the title almost every season. Moreover, Arsenal also has the same number of points as Manchester City, their strongest rival in the Premier League and also favored to win the Champions League. This is not to underestimate anyone, nor to defend Arsenal, but it is an honest assessment. Looking at the overall situation, not only Arsenal, but even the favored teams have struggled to create consistency this season. Therefore, it is not wrong to say that Arsenal still have a chance, but at the same time, their performance is not better than last season.

Yeah overall Arsenal played well in the Champions League, even though they lost in the last fight Arsenal performance was still pretty good and Inter Milan can be called Lucky scored one goal through a penalty. I'm sure Arsenal will go to the next round whether it is through a ticket or through a playoff, what is clear is that in my opinion the Premier League teams will take 2-3 places there Liverpool and Arsenal or Manchester City. There are only 4 matches left so that each team must continue to compete, especially the teams that lose many points in yesterday's match.
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November 07, 2024, 02:59:24 PM
Arsenal have been having a tough time in the Premier League, but they played really well against Inter last night. I know they lost the game, but Arsenal deserved to win, they were just unlucky. If they keep playing like this, they will have a winning streak.
Arsenal are unlucky then they will not get points, it is Inter Milan who are fortunate or can be said to be lucky with a goal through Penalty.
What is more difficult is Inter Milan's solid defense including the goalkeeper so Arsenal are difficult to find space to score goals, in the game it is clear that it is far from Inter Milan.
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November 07, 2024, 02:44:28 PM
Arsenal have be struggling since Bournemouth defeat them. but they perform well in the Champions League. However, Inter Milan play at home and have more fans will motivate the players to perform well. Arteta may need to change his strategy as some of his players are still recovering from injuries and Havertz get yesterday against inter Milan but not that serious. Additionally, Chelsea is in better shape this season and they will face each other in the league. And I believe Chelsea will try to win, or the game could result in a draw. Because I don't believe Arteta can win Chelsea this season in the league. Arsenal will advance to the next round of the ucl, but I don't think they can pickup form after this round because they usually struggle every season they don't have luck in many season. Arteta has not get a better trophies for arsenal and they need to make a change after this season end and he didn't win any title for the club.
This season is now very complicated for Arteta, the team lacks creativity due Odegard’s injury, and even though the defense is doing their best and the midfielders and goalkeeper as well, without creating chances, there will be a lot pressure to the defense and will result to goals because there will be mistakes and the opposition teams will also have good strategy to beat Arsenal defense.

Chelsea started well, and their performance so far in all competitions has been commendable under Enzo Maresca even though their consistency is not as expected; they are doing well in the UEFA Conference League which I think they can even win because they are the favorites to win the competition this season.

However, Arsenal’s performance in the Champions League is not that bad, they only lost to Inter Milan who played in their home stadium and players in the presence of the fans, and Arsenal even played very well just that lack of creativity caused them the defeat.
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