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Quote from: TelolettOm on December 22, 2024, 06:35:03 PM

Indeed. Real Madrid is always a tough team, they won't give up to get the best result in this competition. Even if they are in 20th place, they will keep fighting to reach the final stage of the competition. Sure, the must improve their performance if they want to get the best result. I'm very sure Ancelotti has evaluated many things to change Real Madrid game. Although there are many critics from the fans, Real Madrid will handle it wisely. I also still believe in Real Madrid and their great records for many years. If we really support them, just wait for their return to the best performance...

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Their experience is one thing they keep leveraging on and never letting any situation at any time be a reason to back out or fall back in their pursuit and change for the league title, even when every other person be thinking or seeing that they may not be able to win, they still stay very optimistic and resilient in their chase and most often they get the best rewards off it so seeing and hearing this from ancelotti isn't like a surprise and he always believes he's got his shit together and Indeed he does.

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Quote from: dezoel on December 23, 2024, 04:52:40 AM

Honestly, this new system being so shocking to big teams is exactly why it was created, so that we would have some good league structure where things could change. I am not even joking when I say that we could see the number of teams growing smaller eventually, and teams having more games instead. Imagine a scenario where it's 24 teams, and everyone plays 23 games, or something like that, it would be insane.

Of course when it's 23 games, then you can't have equals amount of home and away games, so that's a bit confusing, but I am sure they could come up with something, like maybe 25 games and 24 games, 12 home and 12 away or whatever. That seems like a much better method. This would of course hurt the leagues, because teams would have players going for 80+ games a year, we are already seeing plenty of injuries, so they need to fix that somehow.

I don't really understand what you really want to say. Do you mean the current competition system in the Champions League? I don't think so, because right now we only have 8 matches with a league system.
Do you want to have a changed format again and all matches will be played with a meeting system? That would be crazy as you said, with this new format alone the schedule is very tight, especially if the format is like what you said.
This is our first season using the new format and maybe there will be an evaluation that will be done after finishing the competition and that is still very long and we don't know if there will be revisions or anything or not.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 23, 2024, 05:17:20 AM

I'm curious about why there is such a big time gap between Round 6 and Round 7. Huh

Next games are starting by January 21. I don't remember such a big interval during the group stage in the old format honestly. This kind of a break was only given during the time between the end of the group stage and last 16 phase. I miss the games already.

The points are still really close in most parts of the standings. Balances can change very easily to determine top 8 qualifiers and teams joining playoffs. I'm wondering what Real Madrid, Manchester City and especially PSG will do.

It has been adjusted and maybe there is a consideration where there is such a long break, because the schedule is tight and it is also approaching the end of the year. Indeed, I also feel the same way where there is a long break and that makes us have to be more patient waiting until the next match. If we use the old format, then actually we already know which teams will qualify for the next round, but with the new format we have 2 more matches and there is even a play-off match to compete for the last 16 from 16 teams in the standings from position 9 to position 24.

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I'm curious about why there is such a big time gap between Round 6 and Round 7. Huh

Next games are starting by January 21. I don't remember such a big interval during the group stage in the old format honestly. This kind of a break was only given during the time between the end of the group stage and last 16 phase. I miss the games already.

The points are still really close in most parts of the standings. Balances can change very easily to determine top 8 qualifiers and teams joining playoffs. I'm wondering what Real Madrid, Manchester City and especially PSG will do.

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Honestly, this new system being so shocking to big teams is exactly why it was created, so that we would have some good league structure where things could change. I am not even joking when I say that we could see the number of teams growing smaller eventually, and teams having more games instead. Imagine a scenario where it's 24 teams, and everyone plays 23 games, or something like that, it would be insane.

Of course when it's 23 games, then you can't have equals amount of home and away games, so that's a bit confusing, but I am sure they could come up with something, like maybe 25 games and 24 games, 12 home and 12 away or whatever. That seems like a much better method. This would of course hurt the leagues, because teams would have players going for 80+ games a year, we are already seeing plenty of injuries, so they need to fix that somehow.

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Quote from: tiCeR on December 22, 2024, 04:46:48 PM

Yes I think hardly anybody thought that Liverpool would be standing where they are after Klopp left the club. But to be honest Klopp left a team behind that was so well coached and prepared. Now since Slot was totally unknown, I thought that the team spirit might decline significantly, but he managed to keep everyone in shape and they play an impressive game. If they score a goal, it is so hard to fight back against them because as you said their counter attack football is so effective. And Salah is still doing so well. I thought he may have had the best years of his life under Klopp, but he is still world class level.

Slot replacing klop initially came with too many uncertainties as there were some kind of doubts if he's capable enough to carry on with the legacy of klop, but as time goes on, we see that klop did left Liverpool in a very good and safe hand, they are doing as good as they have done under klops management, some persons including myself never taught of Salah still this optimal at this point, but interestingly he's not passed his performing prime just yet and Liverpool still have the potential to scale further heights this season and probably beyond.

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Quote from: tiCeR on December 22, 2024, 04:46:48 PM

Yes I think hardly anybody thought that Liverpool would be standing where they are after Klopp left the club. But to be honest Klopp left a team behind that was so well coached and prepared. Now since Slot was totally unknown, I thought that the team spirit might decline significantly, but he managed to keep everyone in shape and they play an impressive game. If they score a goal, it is so hard to fight back against them because as you said their counter attack football is so effective. And Salah is still doing so well. I thought he may have had the best years of his life under Klopp, but he is still world class level.

It is very clear that after Klopp left, many people lowered their hopes for Liverpool this season. Because everyone doesn't really know slots either. Apart from his achievements at Feyenoord, which are actually quite extraordinary. But it turns out that Slot has indeed succeeded in bringing something surprising to Liverpool. He brought Feyenoord into a strong team before going to Liverpool. And now he is also able to keep Liverpool's strength strong after being left by Klopp. And even some improvements occurred in this team after being coached by Slot.

And what amazes me is that he was even able to prevent Liverpool from losing so far in the UCL. Even though the opponents Liverpool faced in the UCL were actually not weak opponents but a collection of strong teams such as Real Madrid, Leverkusen and Girona. And Liverpool was able to overcome all of this in an extraordinary way. Slot now only needs to maintain the team's current performance. And if he can maintain it then the championship title will definitely await this team.

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Quote from: lizarder on December 23, 2024, 02:27:57 AM

The changes are quite necessary considering Man City's performance so far in the Champions League and in the Premier League looks really bad. Pep Guardiola has said some weak points in the team and maybe there will be an effort to recruit new players to cover those weaknesses. Every coach has been in a golden age and then will face a decline, this is a natural thing to happen but what Man City experienced was too fast because they should have been much better when Pep Guardiola was able to see the problem and evaluate it.

Because considering the next match in the Champions League for Manchester City will take place at the end of January, of course it is very appropriate for Manchester City to resolve its weaknesses before that match takes place. And this is certainly very reasonable because if in the next two matches Manchester City cannot win, clearly there is no hope for Manchester City to qualify for the playoffs in the Champions League this season. In addition, if the team's weaknesses are better known by Pep Guardiola, of course the wise steps that will be taken by the team can also be quite easy without having to think about other less important things.

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Quote from: hahay on December 22, 2024, 04:05:30 PM

I wonder, is player transfer or bringing in new players the only way to get good results? Does a team as big as Real Madrid not have a second player or other young players who can be developed and maximized to be able to successfully make Real Madrid get good results in every match? After all, if bringing in new players is the only way to make Real Madrid get good results, then I don't think it's an impressive way either. Although indeed, in reality we will only see the final result later whether they managed to get a trophy or not. But at least, it would be more impressive for a team to achieve success by maximizing the players they have, because by doing so at least the coach also managed to reduce expenses by only maximizing the players on the team.

Technically player transfer is one of the most effective way of getting results in teams and that is why most teams do results to getting new players whe they desire to achieve certain results, I know and agree that there are other ways out there for teams to explore to improve their results but none of such is independent of players and thst is why things that concerns players continue to remain the most important and recruiting new players always stands as a very key factor in the progress of a team. Even the young vibrant player you are talking about has to be gotten from somewhere, you don't have to just say they are there in Madrid, it's either they are bought via transfer or they are selected from the academy and they do have conditions and patterns for which these players are used.

It's if there is a loophole somewhere in the team and there is no player on bench that can cover up the vacuum is when bringing a new player becomes needful. Apart from that, I don't see any reason of getting new players, only if the club wants more reserve players on bench incase of injury. Real Madrid problem is getting a good midfield to replace Toni Kross, because his departure is having a big effect on the team.

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Quote from: len01 on December 21, 2024, 12:39:55 PM

Sometimes people forget the experience of the team that is one of the strengths for Madrid to get good results every season. In Madrid's history we all know how the final result is and in my opinion this season even though Madrid has to experience a little problem with injured players, but just look in January Ancelotti will get new players to advance to the round of 16.
Madrid may end up in the play-off position, but that doesn't mean Madrid can't get into the round of 16.
A lot will change in the next month and we will see teams that currently look strong become worse and teams that look bad will become better.

I think Real Madrid is undoubtedly one of the most experienced teams in the Champions League and La Liga. And those who do not know about the history and experience of this team may comment that this team is very weak. We have seen that, In the past few days Real Madrid have performed poorly in few matches and they have lost few matches as a result of which many are predicting differently about this team.

A number of Real Madrid players were injured, due to which the team lost those matches. Real Madrid still have a golden chance to reach the round of 16, Real Madrid will play against RB Salzburg in their next match in the Champions League.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on December 22, 2024, 06:35:03 PM

Quote from: Ndabagi01 on December 22, 2024, 05:02:17 PM

We can’t be so sure yet and teams like Real Madrid are not the type that usually gives up easily. They fight to achieve what they want until the last minutes in the competition. They as a team do not really have time to listen to critics of how their performance is, but they keep practicing to come out better and victorious in their coming match. I have watched Real Madrid for years now and they’re not the type of team I think will finish the season with this current form they’re exhibiting. It may take time but I still see them as a title contender for the champions league because of their past record and resiliency as a team.

Indeed. Real Madrid is always a tough team, they won't give up to get the best result in this competition. Even if they are in 20th place, they will keep fighting to reach the final stage of the competition. Sure, the must improve their performance if they want to get the best result. I'm very sure Ancelotti has evaluated many things to change Real Madrid game. Although there are many critics from the fans, Real Madrid will handle it wisely. I also still believe in Real Madrid and their great records for many years. If we really support them, just wait for their return to the best performance...

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Ancelotti should be able to overcome the problems that Madrid is currently facing. Madrid might give a surprise when they manage to qualify for the round of 16. It will not be easy to eliminate Madrid very quickly in the Champions League. Other teams such as Man City, PSV, and PSG are also experiencing the same problems at this time. But I think Madrid's chances of qualifying for the next round will be greater. PSG might work harder to qualify for the next round. But who knows, teams that are not favored to qualify will appear stubbornly as dark horses to qualify for the next round.

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Quote from: shogun47 on December 22, 2024, 06:32:22 PM

There might be some real changes incoming for Manchester City. One thing that I didn't fully understand is the contract extension for Pep Guardiola. I think he wanted to send a signal to the team and the people supporting Manchester City, but as of now it rather looks like the wrong decision. It's insane how the best coach in the world is not able to solve those problems. Because this is no coincidence anymore. When they lost like a couple of games, I thought ok it can happen to anyone, but this is now getting really bad. They could theoretically drop out of the top 24, which would be the worst defeat ever and nobody would have ever seen that coming.

PSG away from home is a serious deal and since Manchester City has so much pressure now, I think the last game against Brugge won't be easy either as Brugge has nothing to lose, but can win so much there.

The changes are quite necessary considering Man City's performance so far in the Champions League and in the Premier League looks really bad. Pep Guardiola has said some weak points in the team and maybe there will be an effort to recruit new players to cover those weaknesses. Every coach has been in a golden age and then will face a decline, this is a natural thing to happen but what Man City experienced was too fast because they should have been much better when Pep Guardiola was able to see the problem and evaluate it.

PSG played well in Ligue 1 but not much better than Man City when playing in the Champions League so the chances in the match are still quite difficult to predict. But if you look at the abilities of both teams and the experience they have, I am a little more confident that Man City will win the match even though the match will be much more difficult for them.

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Quote from: Ndabagi01 on December 22, 2024, 05:02:17 PM

We can’t be so sure yet and teams like Real Madrid are not the type that usually gives up easily. They fight to achieve what they want until the last minutes in the competition. They as a team do not really have time to listen to critics of how their performance is, but they keep practicing to come out better and victorious in their coming match. I have watched Real Madrid for years now and they’re not the type of team I think will finish the season with this current form they’re exhibiting. It may take time but I still see them as a title contender for the champions league because of their past record and resiliency as a team.

Indeed. Real Madrid is always a tough team, they won't give up to get the best result in this competition. Even if they are in 20th place, they will keep fighting to reach the final stage of the competition. Sure, the must improve their performance if they want to get the best result. I'm very sure Ancelotti has evaluated many things to change Real Madrid game. Although there are many critics from the fans, Real Madrid will handle it wisely. I also still believe in Real Madrid and their great records for many years. If we really support them, just wait for their return to the best performance...

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Quote from: CroverNo01 on December 22, 2024, 06:05:58 PM

Comparison between Manchester city and Real Madrid this season, we would clearly see the differences following the unspeakable performance of city, what's wrong with such elite team? having streak defeats in all competitions, all is definitely not running smoothly for Pep Guardiola as he's dissapointed in every matches played. In the last 12 games played, Manchester City have only recorded 1 Win, 2 Draws and 9 defeats, such horrible results shouldn't be coming from City, not at this level. Manchester United Champions League dream is been ruled out because I clearly don't see any team that will be succumbed to settle for less, while they can be eager for the prevailing victory.

Real Madrid are not on any level compared to Manchester City, Madrid did struggle to win games but atleast, we're witnessing the rapid improvement of Real Madrid in matches, winning and accumulating 3 points, they're in the categories of favorites to win the UCL trophy this season, not just that but also in for the La Liga title. Carlo Ancelotti needs to lays his hands on every titles he could possibly get because he's the best manager in the European world of football.

There might be some real changes incoming for Manchester City. One thing that I didn't fully understand is the contract extension for Pep Guardiola. I think he wanted to send a signal to the team and the people supporting Manchester City, but as of now it rather looks like the wrong decision. It's insane how the best coach in the world is not able to solve those problems. Because this is no coincidence anymore. When they lost like a couple of games, I thought ok it can happen to anyone, but this is now getting really bad. They could theoretically drop out of the top 24, which would be the worst defeat ever and nobody would have ever seen that coming.

PSG away from home is a serious deal and since Manchester City has so much pressure now, I think the last game against Brugge won't be easy either as Brugge has nothing to lose, but can win so much there.

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Quote from: Obim34 on December 22, 2024, 05:09:52 PM

We can't count any good team in all Leagues for the past decade without mentioning Madrid, it is now a usual for them winning titles and not feeling too excited both in La Liga and Champions League.

Manchester City were trying to compete for the best in the world team so far but consistency has failed recently, Madrid with the worst form has already made their way up the second position on the La Liga table with one match still not played, the odds are changing so fast, Madrid might even lately put out an impressive strike to retain their Champions League while other teams will be struggling for the victory at last.

Comparison between Manchester city and Real Madrid this season, we would clearly see the differences following the unspeakable performance of city, what's wrong with such elite team? having streak defeats in all competitions, all is definitely not running smoothly for Pep Guardiola as he's dissapointed in every matches played. In the last 12 games played, Manchester City have only recorded 1 Win, 2 Draws and 9 defeats, such horrible results shouldn't be coming from City, not at this level. Manchester United Champions League dream is been ruled out because I clearly don't see any team that will be succumbed to settle for less, while they can be eager for the prevailing victory.

Real Madrid are not on any level compared to Manchester City, Madrid did struggle to win games but atleast, we're witnessing the rapid improvement of Real Madrid in matches, winning and accumulating 3 points, they're in the categories of favorites to win the UCL trophy this season, not just that but also in for the La Liga title. Carlo Ancelotti needs to lays his hands on every titles he could possibly get because he's the best manager in the European world of football.

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Quote from: Ndabagi01 on December 22, 2024, 05:02:17 PM

We can’t be so sure yet and teams like Real Madrid are not the type that usually gives up easily. They fight to achieve what they want until the last minutes in the competition. They as a team do not really have time to listen to critics of how their performance is, but they keep practicing to come out better and victorious in their coming match. I have watched Real Madrid for years now and they’re not the type of team I think will finish the season with this current form they’re exhibiting. It may take time but I still see them as a title contender for the champions league because of their past record and resiliency as a team.

Real Madrid don't give up easily and we shouldn't write them off that they're not going to qualify or win the champions league. All teams have played 6 games and there's more two games for the group stage to be finalized. Real Madrid can win those two group stage games reminding and they can qualify for either the round of 16 directly or through play offs as that's this new format of the champions league and that's how they play it. Nobody should say Real Madrid aren't good enough to be winners of the champion league as they have some of the best players in the world. They only need to get in the right form and they go straight to the finals, winning every club they play.

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Quote from: Obim34 on December 22, 2024, 05:09:52 PM

We can't count any good team in all Leagues for the past decade without mentioning Madrid, it is now a usual for them winning titles and not feeling too excited both in La Liga and Champions League.

Manchester City were trying to compete for the best in the world team so far but consistency has failed recently, Madrid with the worst form has already made their way up the second position on the La Liga table with one match still not played, the odds are changing so fast, Madrid might even lately put out an impressive strike to retain their Champions League while other teams will be struggling for the victory at last.

It has probably never been more even than this. I have no clue who could be the possible favorite for the title as there is no team that is not having issues except for Liverpool. Maybe they are the biggest favorite.

What's so weird is how Liverpool creates so many chances despite not having overwhelming ball possession. Now against Tottenham they had less than 50% ball possession and yet had 24 shots! This demonstrates how quickly they get close to the opponent's box. They only need a few touches and the chance is already there.

I doubt that Manchester City will recover to a degree that they can be taken seriously as a potential CL winner.

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Quote from: Obari on December 22, 2024, 04:13:22 PM

Quote from: len01 on December 21, 2024, 12:39:55 PM

Sometimes people forget the experience of the team that is one of the strengths for Madrid to get good results every season. In Madrid's history we all know how the final result is and in my opinion this season even though Madrid has to experience a little problem with injured players, but just look in January Ancelotti will get new players to advance to the round of 16.
Madrid may end up in the play-off position, but that doesn't mean Madrid can't get into the round of 16.
A lot will change in the next month and we will see teams that currently look strong become worse and teams that look bad will become better.

Nothing changed this season for Real Madrid, perhaps they've recorded surprising defeats but it doesn't stop them from encountering major trophies and accomplishments. They're the best, winning titles becomes a seasonal routine for them, a season doesn't pass by without them lifting titles, not just some random trophies but main imperative ones. Do you know the weak spots of Real Madrid? Absolutely not because they've the players and also having to enchanced their performance with new signings. Real Madrid can never be underestimated following the epic performance they've recorded in the history of football. They're indeed one of the very best competitive teams that doesn't go home empty hand, the manager, Carlo Ancelotti always ensured he grabbed major trophies to elevate the team and build confidence within the players.

We can't count any good team in all Leagues for the past decade without mentioning Madrid, it is now a usual for them winning titles and not feeling too excited both in La Liga and Champions League.

Manchester City were trying to compete for the best in the world team so far but consistency has failed recently, Madrid with the worst form has already made their way up the second position on the La Liga table with one match still not played, the odds are changing so fast, Madrid might even lately put out an impressive strike to retain their Champions League while other teams will be struggling for the victory at last.

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Quote from: xzone on December 22, 2024, 03:47:22 PM

Quote from: len01 on December 21, 2024, 12:39:55 PM

Sometimes people forget the experience of the team that is one of the strengths for Madrid to get good results every season. In Madrid's history we all know how the final result is and in my opinion this season even though Madrid has to experience a little problem with injured players, but just look in January Ancelotti will get new players to advance to the round of 16.
Madrid may end up in the play-off position, but that doesn't mean Madrid can't get into the round of 16.
A lot will change in the next month and we will see teams that currently look strong become worse and teams that look bad will become better.

Of course, after the transfers are made, the situation of many teams will change. But when we look at the current situation, we do not have much difficulty in saying that Real Madrid is not very successful, their past experiences do not seem to be of much use. They have a very good squad, I do not think the transfer period is very important for them. What is important is the increase in harmony between the players and playing football with the right strategy. We will see what will change in the next month, I think they will continue like this this season

We can’t be so sure yet and teams like Real Madrid are not the type that usually gives up easily. They fight to achieve what they want until the last minutes in the competition. They as a team do not really have time to listen to critics of how their performance is, but they keep practicing to come out better and victorious in their coming match. I have watched Real Madrid for years now and they’re not the type of team I think will finish the season with this current form they’re exhibiting. It may take time but I still see them as a title contender for the champions league because of their past record and resiliency as a team.

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Quote from: xzone on December 22, 2024, 03:47:22 PM

Of course, after the transfers are made, the situation of many teams will change. But when we look at the current situation, we do not have much difficulty in saying that Real Madrid is not very successful, their past experiences do not seem to be of much use. They have a very good squad, I do not think the transfer period is very important for them. What is important is the increase in harmony between the players and playing football with the right strategy. We will see what will change in the next month, I think they will continue like this this season

But of course they have to do that now because they have to be able to make some breakthroughs including for the defense which is currently leaving many players.

Although I know Ancelotti always believes in the players but in the end leaving many positions vacant is also not very good for Madrid because it could be that after the half of the season a hurricane of injuries occurs again.
Currently at least 3 Madrid defenders have ACL where Militao, Carvajal will definitely rest until the end of the season and Alaba is also still not able to fully recover so even though they can still force Camavinga and Tchouameni who can be placed in positions that are not in their proportions and there is already Asencio brought from Castilla but Madrid still have to try to at least bring in 1 or 2 players in the position of defense so that they don't mess around when some unwanted things happen.

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