Before this season I was always optimistic about Man City when they played against a big team from Italy. I was always confident they would win. But today I was surprised even they lost to Juventus. I read that Man City are very easy to concede, from November until today they have conceded 22 goals. In addition, this defeat also made Guardiola fight with Gundongan. This condition makes it difficult for Man City to finish in the top 8 to directly qualify for the knockout phase.
Manchester City is far from its good old days. Their midfield is really struggling. They are making critical mistakes in the defense. Although Juventus has difficulty passing them, they managed to score two goals. This is another factor that shows that they are struggling in the defense. The 22 goals they have conceded also show us this. Pep Guardiola is not the manager who created a team that concedes so many goals. He will definitely take action in such a difficult situation. 
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After the 6th game was completed, 3 of the 4 teams representing the Premier League were in the top 8, Liverpool were still firmly at the top of the standings with perfect points, Arsenal and Aston Villa both collected 13 points. Barcelona is the only La Liga representative who managed to enter the top 8 positions.
The surprise came from Brest and Lille, both teams managed to enter the top 8 positions. Positions 3 to 8 are competing closely with the same points, only different goal aggregates. Barcelona is slightly safer and needs 1 more point from the remaining 2 matches against Benfica and Atalanta. The 7th match will be very decisive for many teams, their chances depend on their performance in the remaining 2 matches.
Seeing the PSG and Man City memes makes me laugh non-stop lol The surprise came from Brest and Lille, both teams managed to enter the top 8 positions. Positions 3 to 8 are competing closely with the same points, only different goal aggregates. Barcelona is slightly safer and needs 1 more point from the remaining 2 matches against Benfica and Atalanta. The 7th match will be very decisive for many teams, their chances depend on their performance in the remaining 2 matches.
Both clubs do not look as strong as previous seasons and are even at the bottom, in fact clubs like Brest and Lille representing League 1 were able to perform impressively in the Champions League and in the top 8 positions but they faced different opponents and if you look at the difficulty PSG and Man City have opponents that are difficult to beat, and their positions are also not safe because the next 2 matches will determine whether they will qualify directly or will enter the play-off round.
Before this season I was always optimistic about Man City when they played against a big team from Italy. I was always confident they would win. But today I was surprised even they lost to Juventus. I read that Man City are very easy to concede, from November until today they have conceded 22 goals. In addition, this defeat also made Guardiola fight with Gundongan. This condition makes it difficult for Man City to finish in the top 8 to directly qualify for the knockout phase.
We also have to understand the defeat experienced by Man City, several core players that resulted in several of their core players being absent, the defeat to Juventus meant that they were really not very strong in several sectors of Man City's defense line which was not very compact, the loss of Man City and Pep's confidence really had an impact on all the players. 
Before this season I was always optimistic about Man City when they played against a big team from Italy. I was always confident they would win. But today I was surprised even they lost to Juventus. I read that Man City are very easy to concede, from November until today they have conceded 22 goals. In addition, this defeat also made Guardiola fight with Gundongan. This condition makes it difficult for Man City to finish in the top 8 to directly qualify for the knockout phase.
I was not too surprised by Man City defeat to Juventus because they are in their worst period, in their last 10 games they have lost 7 times and conceded 23 goals.Position 24 is the last to qualify for the last 16 play-offs, with 2 matches remaining, strong teams such as Man City and PSG are at risk of not qualifying, while the 4 teams that have been confirmed to be eliminated are Bologna, Leipzig, Slovan and Young Boys.
Manchester City and PSG will fight each other in the 7th match, this is an important match that is very decisive for them, if one of the clubs manages to get 6 points in the remaining 2 games, the opportunity to qualify through the play-off round is very open.
Before this season I was always optimistic about Man City when they played against a big team from Italy. I was always confident they would win. But today I was surprised even they lost to Juventus. I read that Man City are very easy to concede, from November until today they have conceded 22 goals. In addition, this defeat also made Guardiola fight with Gundongan. This condition makes it difficult for Man City to finish in the top 8 to directly qualify for the knockout phase.
Regardless of the result of the match against Barcelona, it was a bad day for Dortmund and one of their players because now Nico Schlotterbeck, the German defender of Dortmund got injured during this match
but indeed in this match, Barcelona seems not to let Dortmund's attackers to enter and attack Barcelona's defense line easily, and their attacks can be blocked quite easily. Barcelona is very on fire in UCL and they also have high motivation to be able to win UCL this season even though their rivals are also very tight, however, in UCL, Barcelona is very consistent and can perform really well.The sad thing for Dortmund they this player got injured hard and when he was leaving the field he felt pain which means he is going to be out for a long time
Bad news happened to Nico Schlotterbeck, he got ankle injury and this is bad for a player. 
Source: Dortmund's Schlotterbeck, ankle injury
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After beating Brest with a score of 3-0, now Raphinha and his friends are back in action by beating the 2nd champions of last season's UCL (Dortmund) with a score of 3-2. Of course, now Barcelona is really playing fiercely against Dortmund. I think this match will end in a draw, but Fortunately, Torres scored an additional goal in the 85th minute by using Yamal's really good pass which ultimately put Barcelona ahead and Barcelona won the match.
now Barcelona is in 2nd place and this is a good result from their hard work of course in this case also Hansi flick is very good because of course there is potential for Hansi flick to be able to win the title as long as Barcelona consistently wins in every match and looks at Liverpool lose in future matches.
Benfica's next match will be Barcelona's opponent in the UCL and it will definitely be exciting in the match because after all, the UCL team is a strong team and what is certain is that the match will be exciting, what do you all think, who will win in the next match Benfica against Barcelona? but I'm sure many people predicted that Barcelona would win, right?
Finally, Yamal's great assist and Torres scored the last goal to give Barcelona 3 points and they are now in 2nd place in the points table. Barcelona also has a chance to go to the top. In this case, we have to look at a loss in a Liverpool match.
Seriously, Barcelona really tried their best in winning against Dortmund. At first, I gave Barcelona a win, but I almost gave up in that game because I was thinking they would not win the match until the end of the game. I waited till 90 minutes of that match before my mind got rest because both of them dominated the match, and that was what made it more interesting and also difficult to figure out who would win the match.
Barcelona's is now in the 2nd spot in the table. I hope they will continue winning their matches, even though I know that it won’t be an easy task for them to do. Liverpool is the top club right now, and we can see how good they are, so let's not conclude yet; there are still more matches to play.
Regardless of the result of the match against Barcelona, it was a bad day for Dortmund and one of their players because now Nico Schlotterbeck, the German defender of Dortmund got injured during this match.
The sad thing for Dortmund they this player got injured hard and when he was leaving the field he felt pain which means he is going to be out for a long time and since Dortmund couldn't recently have a good performance in the Bundesliga and Champions League I think having an injured players can definitely have a negative effect on this team and this can make everything even worst for them.
The fact that Manchester City in the last 10 games, had 1 win, 2 draws and 7 losses is explaining everything we need to know. This is why I believe that we need to focus on how to grow further with whatever we have, in the end it is not going to be a huge deal and we can't really consider City to be suddenly bad. Yes, they are going through a terrible moment right now and that's understandable but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up with the same thing over and over again neither, that's just not possible at all.
We need to consider this as normal for every big team. Maybe they won't win anything this season, that seems like the most likely situation and we will not have that, but at the same time they won so much in so many years, they have been winning for so long, I do not think that it worths anything further at the moment. They won enough to earn themselves a credit to have a bad season, let them have one bad season, maybe next year they will do better.
We need to consider this as normal for every big team. Maybe they won't win anything this season, that seems like the most likely situation and we will not have that, but at the same time they won so much in so many years, they have been winning for so long, I do not think that it worths anything further at the moment. They won enough to earn themselves a credit to have a bad season, let them have one bad season, maybe next year they will do better.
I was never thinking that Manchester city would ever win Juventus. When I saw their odds bigger in the bookies, I was surprised as to why the biomarkers would give them such a big odds of to win city with their current unstable form. Guardiola needs to act fast because their performances currently in matches is bad and the consistency in bad outcomes keeps increasing and gets me concerned as to how bad it can really get. City is underperforming seriously. I hope they don't finish much down the table in EPL
To be honest, I thought Manchester City would win that game.
Juventus find it difficult to score goals so even if Manchester City is out of form, I thought Juventus wouldn't be able to score. How wrong I was. It was Manchester City that couldn't score. I knew Juventus had a good defence, but I just expected Man City to score.
What I knew about that game was that there would be not many goals. I expected a 1-0, 2-0 score line in favour of City, but it turned out to favour Juventus.
Man City are in their worst form under Pep Guardiola and if they re not careful, they might go trophyless this season. They need a lot of reinforcement and if they can do that I the January transfer window and somehow make the players to adapt fast, they can bounce back but if they don't they have to kiss the season goodbye.
we have some odds now.
this is the amount of points predicted to get in to next stage with playoff
13 points 100%
12 points 99%
11 points 99%
10 points 79%
9 points 27%
8 points 2%
this is the amount of points predicted to get in to next stage without the playoff
14 points 0.1%
15 points 6%
16 points 55%
17 points 96%
18 points 99%
19 points 100%
this is the amount of points predicted to get in to next stage with playoff
13 points 100%
12 points 99%
11 points 99%
10 points 79%
9 points 27%
8 points 2%
this is the amount of points predicted to get in to next stage without the playoff
14 points 0.1%
15 points 6%
16 points 55%
17 points 96%
18 points 99%
19 points 100%
I was never thinking that Manchester city would ever win Juventus. When I saw their odds bigger in the bookies, I was surprised as to why the biomarkers would give them such a big odds of to win city with their current unstable form. Guardiola needs to act fast because their performances currently in matches is bad and the consistency in bad outcomes keeps increasing and gets me concerned as to how bad it can really get. City is underperforming seriously. I hope they don't finish much down the table in EPL
They are not improving to be honest and we are yet to see them recover from this poor performance which we have not seen from them since Pep Guardiola took charge of the team more than five years ago. Manchester City are a very strong team in the premier league and what we are seeing from them now is really surprising because their poor performance also have affected their champions league games and may continue like this till the end of the season if action is not taken immediately about it. The champions league competition should be one of their main interest league to play in, but I feel it’s also going to slip off their hand if they don’t improve sooner.
I never thought Barcelona would be this good in the Champions League, neither would Aston Villa nor Leverkusen. Even if their points tally is not much different, this seems different compared to last season's format. The favorite team is having difficulty, while the non-favorite team seems to have the strength to maintain its good performance.
This shows that the format of this competition is very much different from the one they’ve been playing in. This new format requires more consistency and are also going to be very difficult for any team that cannot have that consistency in their games. This new format gives them more number of matches to play and challenge in, but that should not be an excuse for any team seeing the number of squads they each have. We may even end up seeing a team we least expected wins the champions league title this season.
Richarlison's curse is still in effect, have you heard about it? He confirmed it on his Instagram today.
As for the result, I wrote before the game that I was surprised that many were expecting City to win - look at Juventus, they have one defeat in the Champions League and zero defeats in Serie A. Why should they lose at home to a crisis City? It's just illogical.
Mancity crisis is just for the moment, although it might affect them alot but I know they will get back on their feet just a matter of time beside they already archived alot since Guardiola joined
just that this one hit hard . 
You are right, Pep Guardiola is a hard thinker and he has done his job well. This season things haven't gone according to plan and it's been a really bad turn in what has been a very successful coaching career so far. Pep Guardiola has made several approaches during this difficult time especially for his squad, but things are still not improving and they have nothing to lose this season.
On the other hand, this is the best opportunity for any team to stop Manchester City. They are a very difficult team to beat when they are at their best, so this is a great opportunity to stop them. We should be grateful about the situation that Manchester City is currently experiencing in the Premier League, otherwise maybe we would still find them winning the title every season.
He has tried his best but it is undeniable that until now Pep still cannot find an answer to the decline in performance received by Manchester City this time.On the other hand, this is the best opportunity for any team to stop Manchester City. They are a very difficult team to beat when they are at their best, so this is a great opportunity to stop them. We should be grateful about the situation that Manchester City is currently experiencing in the Premier League, otherwise maybe we would still find them winning the title every season.
Pep's momentum was lost when they lost Rodri and KDB at the same time and now that KDB is in the squad in the end this is still not able to maintain the performance in order to return to its original form because Pep's attacking pattern has begun to be read.
Their midfield is an important part and indeed when there is a closed ball flow where Haaland as finishing is tightly guarded, Pep's attacking pattern also falters a little and until now he has not been able to minimize this to run according to his wishes.
Now he is in trouble but I don't think this will last long because even though he is currently threatened but when looking at Pep's performance in the previous few seasons which still looks the same I don't think it will be long before he can restore his performance, when this is already difficult to anticipate then half of the season, especially the winter transfer, he will definitely use it to change some attack schemes with new players later.
Mbappe finally played well until he had to be substituted due to an injury. It is not known yet whether he will be out for a longer period of time, but there are first rumors concerning his thigh and muscles in that area. It could mean that he is out for some weeks and Real Madrid's bad luck of constant injuries regarding their best players would continue. His goal was superb and there he did what he can do best, use his speed and prepare himself a chance with one touch, then execute. Too bad though if now Rodrygo and Vinicius Junior are back and the next one has to take a break.
Real Madrid really showed their class at Atalanta headquarters, they were finally able to taste victory again in the UCL after experiencing defeat in the previous two games. Vinicius immediately stepped on the gas after returning from injury, he managed to score 1 goal and 1 assist in this match. This victory not only managed to steal three points at Atalanta's headquarters, but also gave defeat to Atalanta who were previously unbeaten in 14 matches (12 wins and 2 draws).Regarding Mbappe, I don't really give Mbappe too much credit because he hasn't been able to fully contribute well for Real Madrid, one goal he managed to score could boost his confidence, but unfortunately he got injured in this game.
It was a respectable game played by several Real Madrid players I think. As you said Vinicius Junior was there and I think that was the biggest hope after his injury, a seamless comeback and in a best case scenario of course a goal. But now the sad part couldn't be downplayed and Mbappe got an injury after scoring an amazing goal. I don't know what the latest news about that injury are, but I have read somewhere that it is not as bad as they thought in the first few hours after Mbappe went off the field.
I agree that big credit isn't due yet for him, but I still believe his time will come as he has the quality and you could see this when he scored the goal. It is this fast touch he needs and the opponent can't even move his body for a fraction of a second. That is what makes Mbappe strong, but he hasn't shown a lot of those great skills he undoubtedly has.
Source: https://www.bola.net/spanyol/hasil-borussia-dortmund-vs-barcelona-skor-2-3-c2fef9.html
After beating Brest with a score of 3-0, now Raphinha and his friends are back in action by beating the 2nd champions of last season's UCL (Dortmund) with a score of 3-2. Of course, now Barcelona is really playing fiercely against Dortmund. I think this match will end in a draw, but Fortunately, Torres scored an additional goal in the 85th minute by using Yamal's really good pass which ultimately put Barcelona ahead and Barcelona won the match.
now Barcelona is in 2nd place and this is a good result from their hard work of course in this case also Hansi flick is very good because of course there is potential for Hansi flick to be able to win the title as long as Barcelona consistently wins in every match and looks at Liverpool lose in future matches.
Benfica's next match will be Barcelona's opponent in the UCL and it will definitely be exciting in the match because after all, the UCL team is a strong team and what is certain is that the match will be exciting, what do you all think, who will win in the next match Benfica against Barcelona? but I'm sure many people predicted that Barcelona would win, right?
Finally, Yamal's great assist and Torres scored the last goal to give Barcelona 3 points and they are now in 2nd place in the points table. Barcelona also has a chance to go to the top. In this case, we have to look at a loss in a Liverpool match.
Guirassy was the key for Dortmund but still, he was not enough for this team to win the game and they lost it to Barcelona with a 3-2 result. The performance of Dortmund was not bad against Barcelona Flick won the match with these players thanks to the young talents like Yamal.
They should be proud of their coach because without using younger players Barcelona couldn't have good performance during this season in both La Liga and Champions League.
Arsenal managed to beat Monaco as expected and I think the score of 3-0 is proof that Arsenal's defensive condition is fine even though many of Arsenal's defenders are absent due to injury.
Many people thought this match would be competitive. Because Monaco had lost only one match in the first 5 matches. So many people expected Arsenal vs Monaco match to be a tough match for Arsenal but my guess was Arsenal would dominate the match and win. And in the end Arsenal won the match by a big margin of 3-0.
Monaco had probably lost only one match in the last 5 matches. However, Monaco's opponents were relatively weak teams. So it was relatively easy for Monaco to get points. However, Monaco failed to win against Arsenal and Benfica in the last two matches. With this win, Arsenal is now in third place in the points table.
This victory did not really surprise me, because previously I also predicted that Arsenal could beat Monaco, although in terms of score I did not think it would be 3 goals without reply. Actually Monaco was not bad in this game, but the gaps they left in the defense line could be utilized very well by Arsenal players. It also seems like this is the result of the pressure they get, because it is not easy to play in front of opposing supporters who will indirectly put pressure on them.
I wasn’t surprised to see Arsenal win against Monaco because obviously Arsenal is better in performance, although I know Monaco is not bad in performance, but still Arsenal was the favourite in this game. I know many people were not surprised by the result, although Monaco has been winning this while, and this makes people think Arsenal will find it difficult in winning the match or it will be competitive, but unfortunately my team won the match.
The point is Pep Guardiola is too relaxed and feels that Man City can still easily win the title. As a result the carelessness is visible now, Pep may feel that he is in a comfort zone and his squad is the most perfect. Unfortunately bad luck came when Pep had not prepared himself. The club performed badly plus Man City is currently facing 130 demands. I think stress, frustration, and when Pep mentality is out of control will affect his strategy too.
I don't think so, how do you say for some one struggling with many injury cases and trying to find his way around it is relaxed,last season he was hit with almost similar experience where Kevin de bruyn didn't play fo a long time and now it's rodri one of his best, it's a whole lot for him it's just that hes been at his stage for the longest so it appears like he's reluctant. A whole lot is going on with that tema and I wouldn't be surprised to think that it's got a psychological effect on the team which by extension has affected their results, if they get all settled, sooner they get better.And on the surface it does look like they got worse after they lost him, but the reality is that Rodri wasn't as important as KDB, and I believe the reason why they are losing right now something else, not Rodri. The fact that they couldn't figure out a way to recover is the main reason, they just don't know what to do. I hope that , with KDB back now, they have been looking decent for a while, and I think they will do fine. Hopefully of course, I still do not know what will happen, but I still deny that it's Rodri that is causing them to lose, they could have him today, and it wouldn't have made that much difference.
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Barcelona's victory over Dortmund is worth celebrating because it was a fierce match. Both teams played very well and once again Hansi Flick's team managed to prove that they are really ready to achieve better things this season in the UCL.
Once again the Hansi Flick boys have taken the victory. They are just hunger for victory in European competition. If we talked about Match it's was quite surprising because I was thinking that the match would be easier for the Catalan side. From the beginning of the kick off Barcelona are just dominated the matches with huge possession as well as shots but after the second half, they just lost the momentum, and Borussia Dortmund dominated the ball possession. After that, both times when Barcelona scored, Dortmund would equalize the score line soon. Ultimately in the end, that player (F. Torres) proved to be effective for Barcelona, who had no hope that he would score a goal. Barcelona's victory over Dortmund is worth celebrating because it was a fierce match. Both teams played very well and once again Hansi Flick's team managed to prove that they are really ready to achieve better things this season in the UCL.
But anyway, seeing this optimistic performance and passion of Barcelona, it is feel like that Hansi Flick boys are on a mission to win the Uefa Champion League. These people will not rest until they win the UEFA Champion League title.
This season's Champions League is completely different after each team has completed 6/8 matches. For the time being, several non-favorite teams such as Barcelona, Leverkusen, Arsenal, Aston Villa, Brest and Lille can almost guarantee themselves of qualifying for the round of 16 without playoffs, while several favorite teams include Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, Manchester City, PSG, and some others are still having difficulties.
I never thought Barcelona would be this good in the Champions League, neither would Aston Villa nor Leverkusen. Even if their points tally is not much different, this seems different compared to last season's format. The favorite team is having difficulty, while the non-favorite team seems to have the strength to maintain its good performance.
I never thought Barcelona would be this good in the Champions League, neither would Aston Villa nor Leverkusen. Even if their points tally is not much different, this seems different compared to last season's format. The favorite team is having difficulty, while the non-favorite team seems to have the strength to maintain its good performance.
Situation is now clearly gone from bad to worse for Citizens as they are having 1 win from their last 10 games with 2 draws and 7 defeats chances are high they can face early exit from Champions League as well which could be another low point and their Premier League hopes are also now going down their players are having lack of confidence and their moral is also down which giving them no motivation to have things change.
I was never thinking that Manchester city would ever win Juventus. When I saw their odds bigger in the bookies, I was surprised as to why the biomarkers would give them such a big odds of to win city with their current unstable form. Guardiola needs to act fast because their performances currently in matches is bad and the consistency in bad outcomes keeps increasing and gets me concerned as to how bad it can really get. City is underperforming seriously. I hope they don't finish much down the table in EPLWe all have to accept this fact that Manchester City will not be able to display anything tangible this season anymore, although I know some might have hope in them for that yesterday, but since when I see their performances yesterday, I know they will not be able to win against Juventus in the game, and that is what ends up happening. Manchester City's performance is already out of hand, and they will have to accept the fact that they will not be able to have anything this season anymore.
So they should just maintain and force more in their performance so that they will maintain their position in order to achieve something next season, but for this season I think there is nothing left for them anymore as Rodri is absent.
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