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Quote from: Lannakosa on December 12, 2024, 10:22:55 AM

I like Juventus but I think they are not in the best form at the moment, all I can say good about them is that they can play well in defense, but it does not always happen. I don't know what is happening with City, but their defense is just terrible, and if Guardiola decided to change the strategy to change something then I think it is also not the best decision, because before everything worked well for them, the only thing that changed was the absence of Rodri, but one player cannot influence the whole model of the game so much, that without him the whole game collapses. Rodri can return in the second half of this season, but if City continue to lose, then I admit that Guardiola can be sacked (I never thought this could happen).

Before start of game I was having strong feeling both teams are on same level of performance, but we have good home advantage for the Old Lady, and they were able to outclass struggling Manchester City which is now having horrible time due to their lack of consistency and having terrible form specially their attack is badly out of touch they are missing good chances which they needed to be done Juventus was also in not good touch while they have 7 draws from their last 10 games with 2 wins and 1 lost but in this game we have them on good control.

There is No chance Manchester City management will sack Guardiola because few weeks back we have contract is extended, and he is going to have brought few good players which will surely help to increase the performance of the club, and they will be surely back into good touch for having their race for title back in connection.

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Situation is now clearly gone from bad to worse for Citizens as they are having 1 win from their last 10 games with 2 draws and 7 defeats chances are high they can face early exit from Champions League as well which could be another low point and their Premier League hopes are also now going down their players are having lack of confidence and their moral is also down which giving them no motivation to have things change.

I was never thinking that Manchester city would ever win Juventus. When I saw their odds bigger in the bookies, I was surprised as to why the biomarkers would give them such a big odds of to win city with their current unstable form. Guardiola needs to act fast because their performances currently in matches is bad and the consistency in bad outcomes keeps increasing and gets me concerned as to how bad it can really get. City is underperforming seriously. I hope they don't finish much down the table in EPL

The reason why so many people are not coming to the reality that Manchester City is in a very big mess is because of their past records. If this present form of Manchester City is been undergone by Chelsea, many people would have agreed and start suggesting that Chelsea will even be relegated. But for the fact that it happens to Manchester City, everyone is afraid to state the reality and we are still expecting them to return to good form and become the champion of the English Premier League this season. But that is far from the reality because it is difficult to balance back when you are very far behind.

Talking about the bookmakers and the odds they set, most times they are confused and have no valid data to set odds. By then they will have nothing else to do than to play mind games with the gamblers.

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Quote from: temple on December 12, 2024, 02:41:54 PM

I don't think the downside was strong enough to call this a turn in his career. The worst that can happen is that he finishes a season without a title. I don't know if that ever happened to him, but if it does, it doesn't really mean the career has taken a turn. That would be the case if Manchester City was in shambles and couldn't be measured by its own standards anymore because that is what's going on. He raised the standards and expectations by so much that people now think he is doomed. Of course he isn't doomed and he will play a better season next year. Still he is in all competitions and I would not write off Manchester City this early. They have a problem to use ball possession for their own good and Haaland is not in his best shape either, but they can still get things done. No team would ever be happy to play against them at any stage.

Although not strong enough but this proves that for now Pep cannot relax as usual because the season continues to change and now there are some great coaches who have sprung up who can rival him and this is clearly different than before even though there were still some great coaches before but that was not enough to make Pep's dominance destroyed but now the conditions are a little different where very pronounced changes occur especially in the performance of Manchester City in the last few matches before the half of this season.

Pep can still fix this but in the end there will certainly be an impact of the consequences that occur so he must prepare for all the worst possibilities even though the impact will not be too big but obviously there must be an impact that occurs as a result of this.
Even like that, I still believe enough for Manchester City to still be able to get at least 1 trophy this season because if not it will clearly make Pep's achievements in the last few seasons very different and Pep will not want this to happen.

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Situation is now clearly gone from bad to worse for Citizens as they are having 1 win from their last 10 games with 2 draws and 7 defeats chances are high they can face early exit from Champions League as well which could be another low point and their Premier League hopes are also now going down their players are having lack of confidence and their moral is also down which giving them no motivation to have things change.

I was never thinking that Manchester city would ever win Juventus. When I saw their odds bigger in the bookies, I was surprised as to why the biomarkers would give them such a big odds of to win city with their current unstable form. Guardiola needs to act fast because their performances currently in matches is bad and the consistency in bad outcomes keeps increasing and gets me concerned as to how bad it can really get. City is underperforming seriously. I hope they don't finish much down the table in EPL

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on December 12, 2024, 11:35:37 AM

Arsenal could win very comfortably when hosting Monaco, they scored 3 goals and were able to achieve a clean sheet as well, that was a good thing they could get in this match.
This victory did not really surprise me, because previously I also predicted that Arsenal could beat Monaco, although in terms of score I did not think it would be 3 goals without reply. Actually Monaco was not bad in this game, but the gaps they left in the defense line could be utilized very well by Arsenal players. It also seems like this is the result of the pressure they get, because it is not easy to play in front of opposing supporters who will indirectly put pressure on them.

Arsenal are currently maintaining their momentum in form so it's undeniable that they're really trying to do their best and it was a sweet victory in the Champions League this week.

They're in pretty good shape despite Arteta's unavailability but in midfield they've got the driving force back and the captain Odegaard and on the flanks Saka is also doing well after he recovered from injury to make Arsenal's attacking patterns much more direct.

Monaco's performance was actually not too bad but Arsenal's good determination made them make mistakes several times including for the second goal that Arsenal got which destroyed Monaco's momentum and they lost their focus in this match which in the end Arsenal could win with a fairly landslide score actually where 3 goals without reply ended this match.

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Do you even think pep Guardiola is relaxed? Why do you think Pep Guardiola is careless or relaxed? From the way Manchester City is playing, it’s obvious that Pep Guardiola is doing everything possible just to improve the club's performance, but the issue is that things are not really working for him. Pep Guardiola has tried different strategies, but it’s not just working, and the club’s performance just keeps on getting worse. I don’t really know how Pep Guardiola is going to improve the club's performance, but with the way Manchester City is playing, they won’t be able to achieve anything this season.

You are right, Pep Guardiola is a hard thinker and he has done his job well. This season things haven't gone according to plan and it's been a really bad turn in what has been a very successful coaching career so far. Pep Guardiola has made several approaches during this difficult time especially for his squad, but things are still not improving and they have nothing to lose this season.

On the other hand, this is the best opportunity for any team to stop Manchester City. They are a very difficult team to beat when they are at their best, so this is a great opportunity to stop them. We should be grateful about the situation that Manchester City is currently experiencing in the Premier League, otherwise maybe we would still find them winning the title every season.

I don't think the downside was strong enough to call this a turn in his career. The worst that can happen is that he finishes a season without a title. I don't know if that ever happened to him, but if it does, it doesn't really mean the career has taken a turn. That would be the case if Manchester City was in shambles and couldn't be measured by its own standards anymore because that is what's going on. He raised the standards and expectations by so much that people now think he is doomed. Of course he isn't doomed and he will play a better season next year. Still he is in all competitions and I would not write off Manchester City this early. They have a problem to use ball possession for their own good and Haaland is not in his best shape either, but they can still get things done. No team would ever be happy to play against them at any stage.

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The point is Pep Guardiola is too relaxed and feels that Man City can still easily win the title. As a result the carelessness is visible now, Pep may feel that he is in a comfort zone and his squad is the most perfect. Unfortunately bad luck came when Pep had not prepared himself. The club performed badly plus Man City is currently facing 130 demands. I think stress, frustration, and when Pep mentality is out of control will affect his strategy too.

This season is not a good season for Pep. When the results received are not as expected, then he will not be calm and easily provoked emotions when he is off the field.

You are right if stress, frustration is roaming in Pep's body so that when in front of the media crew if someone asks how he is at Etihad, then the answer is that he does not want to coach another club and wants to enjoy his life. If he wants to return to coaching, the national team will be accepted.

If it were not for the current situation at Manchester City and Pep himself, statements like that would not have come out.

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Quote from: aylabadia05 on December 12, 2024, 02:04:15 PM

You are right, Pep Guardiola is a hard thinker and he has done his job well. This season things haven't gone according to plan and it's been a really bad turn in what has been a very successful coaching career so far. Pep Guardiola has made several approaches during this difficult time especially for his squad, but things are still not improving and they have nothing to lose this season.

What makes Pep Guardiola like this? So that the strategy applied is not so efficient and the match ends up losing, we can see how the bad record over the last 10 matches, the media states this is the worst experienced by Pep Guardiola, but obviously Pep will not leave before this problem is immediately resolved with the club.

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On the other hand, this is the best opportunity for any team to stop Manchester City. They are a very difficult team to beat when they are at their best, so this is a great opportunity to stop them. We should be grateful about the situation that Manchester City is currently experiencing in the Premier League, otherwise maybe we would still find them winning the title every season.

Yup this word can see how bad Man City's game is, other teams are no longer afraid to face Man City because they will definitely be easy to fight and it could be that other teams win like several other teams.

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Quote from: l99l on December 12, 2024, 01:16:47 PM

Arsenal was especially effective in the midfield, the ball suits Odegaard's feet, he literally passed through the eye of a needle.
Arsenal had control over the center of the midfield with Odegaard's passes and the team's passes.
Although Monaco was not an empty team, Arsenal was the team that started to get results from the match with the first half.
Monaco gained courage in the second half, they tried something more, it was not enough and Arsenal's weight was too much.

Arteta's troops showed a classy game and I enjoyed it, the accuracy of the passes, passes and also the chances were all in their possession, the Arsenal players were so calm but aggressive their defense also did not give Monaco many gaps to at least reduce the defeat and the mistake of the Monaco defender in the second goal was what made Arsenal more comfortable in controlling the field. With this result their chances of qualifying for R16 without having to go through the play-off round are getting bigger because the remaining two matches will face Dinamo Zagreb and Girona which on paper can be won again.

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I feel there is hope that Real Madrid can qualify for the play-offs of this victory, although I was not confident before that Real Madrid could beat Atalanta, but in the end result 3-2 wins for Real Madrid with Vini, Mbappe and Belllingham, the match which is quite fun.
The initial goal made by Mbappe in the tenth minute made me even more enthusiastic to watch, and I was quite doubtful afterwards because in the one in the last minute Atalanta equalized through the penalty.

But afterwards the streak goals from Vini and Belingham made me come back to the Real Madrid victory.

Definitely, with this match victory, Real Madrid got their hopes up again to see the play-offs because they were right on the edge and Atalanta was a tough team, they have been playing their best games lately, they also played against Real Madrid in the match with lots of goals, Atalanta never sat idle, they wanted the match but Real Madrid prevailed.

This hope is sufficient capital to maintain the position of Real Madrid to enter the play-off, and henceforth will fight RB Salzburg which is a team that is not optimal and has a bad performance, so this is a great opportunity to continue to maintain position and be more trusting .

While Atalanta was still able to sit quietly because they were still in the safe stage in the point.

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Quote from: AYOBA on December 12, 2024, 01:22:15 PM

When is coming to the champions league, Arsenal always take it very serious to accumulate points so that they able to achieve their goals and their ambition this season is for them to win champion league title, and with the way their performances is going own currently in that league: Arsenal will bring something positive this season that can make the fans to be happy.

There always face some challenges every time advance to the next round, but this season I’m having confidence on the that they will try as much as possible to put efforts so that they can able to bring something difference; because even last match they’ve prove to their fans that they will not repeat what they did last season.

Not only this season, but every season, Arsenal always tries to chase the title in the UCL. But unfortunately always failed and this season Arsenal only tried to take advantage of the new system that gave Arteta a great opportunity to try to compete more consistently. But anyway I doubt Arsenal before winning the title in the EPL, I doubt Arsenal can win the title in the UCL even if they reach the final round.

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Quote from: Issa56 on December 12, 2024, 11:37:49 AM

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Do you even think pep Guardiola is relaxed? Why do you think Pep Guardiola is careless or relaxed? From the way Manchester City is playing, it’s obvious that Pep Guardiola is doing everything possible just to improve the club's performance, but the issue is that things are not really working for him. Pep Guardiola has tried different strategies, but it’s not just working, and the club’s performance just keeps on getting worse. I don’t really know how Pep Guardiola is going to improve the club's performance, but with the way Manchester City is playing, they won’t be able to achieve anything this season.

You are right, Pep Guardiola is a hard thinker and he has done his job well. This season things haven't gone according to plan and it's been a really bad turn in what has been a very successful coaching career so far. Pep Guardiola has made several approaches during this difficult time especially for his squad, but things are still not improving and they have nothing to lose this season.

On the other hand, this is the best opportunity for any team to stop Manchester City. They are a very difficult team to beat when they are at their best, so this is a great opportunity to stop them. We should be grateful about the situation that Manchester City is currently experiencing in the Premier League, otherwise maybe we would still find them winning the title every season.

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Quote from: l99l on December 12, 2024, 01:16:47 PM

Arsenal was especially effective in the midfield, the ball suits Odegaard's feet, he literally passed through the eye of a needle.
Arsenal had control over the center of the midfield with Odegaard's passes and the team's passes.
Although Monaco was not an empty team, Arsenal was the team that started to get results from the match with the first half.
Monaco gained courage in the second half, they tried something more, it was not enough and Arsenal's weight was too much.

Martin Odegard was what Arsenal squad missed when they dropped so many points in the Premier League, when he got injured, Arsenal’s creativity was very poor, and as a result of that, the team struggles to win matches which has given pressure to the defense and they conceded some goals and loose some matches; now that he is back from injury, the team has now regain their strength, the relationship and connection between Odegard and Saka is back and has been lifting the team.
Yesterday, Arsenal’s defense was not complete, but it didn’t affect the team’s performance because there was creativity in the ground to maintain the ball in the midfield which will reduce defensive pressure.
This season, Arsenal will go far in the Champions League because they have almost secured their place in the knockout stage if they can just win their next champions league match against Dinamo Zagreb.

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Quote from: Richbased on December 12, 2024, 11:47:39 AM

Arsenal climbing to the third position is not bad even though from the 8th position to the third position are sharing 13 points each, but Arsenal have the highest in goal difference. Arsenal always tries their best in the Champions group stages but their problems mostly surfaces when they have advanced to the next round but hopefully we will see something different from the team this season.

When is coming to the champions league, Arsenal always take it very serious to accumulate points so that they able to achieve their goals and their ambition this season is for them to win champion league title, and with the way their performances is going own currently in that league: Arsenal will bring something positive this season that can make the fans to be happy.

There always face some challenges every time advance to the next round, but this season I’m having confidence on the that they will try as much as possible to put efforts so that they can able to bring something difference; because even last match they’ve prove to their fans that they will not repeat what they did last season.

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Arsenal managed to beat Monaco as expected and I think the score of 3-0 is proof that Arsenal's defensive condition is fine even though many of Arsenal's defenders are absent due to injury.

Many people thought this match would be competitive. Because Monaco had lost only one match in the first 5 matches. So many people expected Arsenal vs Monaco match to be a tough match for Arsenal but my guess was Arsenal would dominate the match and win. And in the end Arsenal won the match by a big margin of 3-0.

Monaco had probably lost only one match in the last 5 matches. However, Monaco's opponents were relatively weak teams. So it was relatively easy for Monaco to get points. However, Monaco failed to win against Arsenal and Benfica in the last two matches. With this win, Arsenal is now in third place in the points table.

Arsenal could win very comfortably when hosting Monaco, they scored 3 goals and were able to achieve a clean sheet as well, that was a good thing they could get in this match.
This victory did not really surprise me, because previously I also predicted that Arsenal could beat Monaco, although in terms of score I did not think it would be 3 goals without reply. Actually Monaco was not bad in this game, but the gaps they left in the defense line could be utilized very well by Arsenal players. It also seems like this is the result of the pressure they get, because it is not easy to play in front of opposing supporters who will indirectly put pressure on them.

Arsenal was especially effective in the midfield, the ball suits Odegaard's feet, he literally passed through the eye of a needle.
Arsenal had control over the center of the midfield with Odegaard's passes and the team's passes.
Although Monaco was not an empty team, Arsenal was the team that started to get results from the match with the first half.
Monaco gained courage in the second half, they tried something more, it was not enough and Arsenal's weight was too much.

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Quote from: Lafu on December 12, 2024, 12:37:21 PM

Pep Guardiola is for sure not relaxed specially after the last weeks and all the lost games they got in the League and also in the Champions League.
I guess that the game yesterday will be for sure get him explow in the the cabin after the game.
If there will be not coming any changes in the next weeks from the team and the playing i can imagine that this will be maybe the last season for Pep.
Its sad when you have all this top stars and awesome palyers in a team and you cant win.

Manchester City fumbled along the path of the new season, at first everyone thought it was mere coincidence and defeats happens, but the continuity of these losses becomes devastating and the current players lose confidence in themselves, they're unable to nailed a big winnings since the start of this current chaos they're facing. Pep Guardiola mute on the whole matter because the problem he's facing is bigger than his capacity, he's exhausted following the consecutive poor results obtained by his team. Infant rumor starts flying following the dismissal of Pep Guardiola because his time have been due but on the other hand, he's one good and great thing to happen to the club.

What's restraining Manchester City from winning matches presently? They've huge barrier to settled and this is incredibly weigh out of the league for City. Pep Guardiola have made different game strategies but none seems to be working. It's just a matter of time before things bounce back to normal states for Manchester City.

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Quote from: CryptoHeadlineNews on December 12, 2024, 11:45:32 AM

And indeed, Barcelona did actually won the game just as predicted yesterday against Dortmund with 3 goals to 2,
which was quite impressive, seeing both clubs struggle in the second half who to emerge winner,

I havnt seen the whole game but from the review i have seen it was equal for both teams that they make the lucky punch , saddly Barcelona did it at the end.
But with a bit more luck Dortmund also would be have that game or even getting the draw here.

Quote from: Issa56 on December 12, 2024, 11:37:49 AM

Do you even think pep Guardiola is relaxed? Why do you think Pep Guardiola is careless or relaxed? From the way Manchester City is playing, it’s obvious that Pep Guardiola is doing everything possible just to improve the club's performance, but the issue is that things are not really working for him. Pep Guardiola has tried different strategies, but it’s not just working, and the club’s performance just keeps on getting worse. I don’t really know how Pep Guardiola is going to improve the club's performance, but with the way Manchester City is playing, they won’t be able to achieve anything this season.

Pep Guardiola is for sure not relaxed specially after the last weeks and all the lost games they got in the League and also in the Champions League.
I guess that the game yesterday will be for sure get him explow in the the cabin after the game.
If there will be not coming any changes in the next weeks from the team and the playing i can imagine that this will be maybe the last season for Pep.
Its sad when you have all this top stars and awesome palyers in a team and you cant win.

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Arsenal could win very comfortably when hosting Monaco, they scored 3 goals and were able to achieve a clean sheet as well, that was a good thing they could get in this match.
This victory did not really surprise me, because previously I also predicted that Arsenal could beat Monaco, although in terms of score I did not think it would be 3 goals without reply. Actually Monaco was not bad in this game, but the gaps they left in the defense line could be utilized very well by Arsenal players. It also seems like this is the result of the pressure they get, because it is not easy to play in front of opposing supporters who will indirectly put pressure on them.

My prediction was that the match would end 3-1 or 2-1. But Monaco could not score any goals in this match. Arsenal's performance in this match was organized. Arsenal players were able to perform very well from the beginning of the match. Arsenal scored one goal in the first half and two goals in the second half. Bukayo Saka scored two goals and one assist. Monaco players were able to make several strong attacks. But Monaco could not break Arsenal's strong defense.

The teams in the third to eighth place in the points table have each managed to earn 13 points from 6 matches. Barcelona's achievement is 15 and Liverpool's achievement is 18 points. The top 8 teams in the points table will directly qualify for the next round. I am sure that Barcelona and Liverpool will be in the top 2. However, there is a big possibility that the positions of the teams in the third to eighth place in the table will change.

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Quote from: Richbased on December 12, 2024, 11:47:39 AM

There is something about Arsenal which is, whenever they are good form, they can win any opponents that comes their way and whenever they are also not in form, they don't have confidence of winning even when the meet a smaller club. On a normal assessment, Monaco cannot even measure themselves with Arsenal because they are far above them, so the win was expected.

Arsenal climbing to the third position is not bad even though from the 8th position to the third position are sharing 13 points each, but Arsenal have the highest in goal difference. Arsenal always tries their best in the Champions group stages but their problems mostly surfaces when they have advanced to the next round but hopefully we will see something different from the team this season.

It's true that Arsenal have a unique consistency, both in the Premier League and the Champions League. Their journey in a competition is hard to predict, and concerns often grow when Arteta squad consistently performs well over a long period. Arsenal often stumble in crucial matches, especially against mediocre teams, and frequently lose momentum as the season draws to a close. This is a difficult fact to deny, but for this season, Arsenal are likely to easily progress to the Champions League round of 16.

Arsenal have been one of the fortunate teams this season, avoiding an injury crisis, and their luck has even been better than that of Real Madrid, Manchester City, and Bayern Munchen, who are often considered the favorites to win. Arsenal position in third place in the table is likely to be secure, as they will face slightly easier opponents in the future, such as Dinamo Zagreb and Girona.

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Quote from: Palakka on December 12, 2024, 10:58:00 AM

The victory over Nottingham in the previous EPL match has not been the beginning of their revival, although the victory in the EPL actually gives us a lot of hope to see Manchester City get better again including in the UCL, but instead the defeat to Juventus gives us a sign if Guardiola's squad is still unable to rise for now.

Recruiting new players is certainly a step that must be taken by Guardiola in January later, but for now I think Guardiola must be able to take advantage of existing resources to not make Manchester City even worse, looking for a solid and creative defensive midfielder to replace Rodri they must do although it may be difficult to find a player of Rodri calibre in January market, while Arsenal, I think only one of their current shortcomings is not having a central striker which dangerous and can reliable in crucial matches so far.

Situation is now clearly gone from bad to worse for Citizens as they are having 1 win from their last 10 games with 2 draws and 7 defeats chances are high they can face early exit from Champions League as well which could be another low point and their Premier League hopes are also now going down their players are having lack of confidence and their moral is also down which giving them no motivation to have things change.

We have extension in contract of Pepe Guardiola but surely it is not good time for him with he is now on his lowest level after touching many good things with Manchester City hopefully he will be able to have change of fortune in coming matches while he will face few challenging opponents in coming weeks Manchester derby is going to be interesting as both are down and out of touch hopefully fans will be having good performance and quality soccer.

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