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September 26, 2024, 05:32:42 AM
You see Celtic and Stuttgart; those two teams should not be underestimated, especially Celtic; they are also not weak, and they can also beat Atlanta, as you said. I cannot deny the fact that Atlanta is good in the Champions League, but still, these teams that we think are weak can put in too much effort to see that they draw, or probably it will be difficult for Atlanta to beat them, as we are saying. For the semi-finals, you know, their other top teams that are tough and doing better than Atlanta, so those teams will bring Atlanta down; they will find it hard to go to that stage. 
Celtic performance in first game of this season in UEFA Champions League were amazing because no one were expecting result like this while Slovan Bratislava is also good team and having top spot in Slovakian League, but things were completely surprising in this first game of Champions League with Celtic were dominating from the start and until end we are having 5 goals from them which is amazing stuff now they are having next game against Dortmund which is also at his prime with having good result against Club Brugge now next game is going to be challenging for the Celtic as they can keep momentum, or we will have easy win for the Dortmund.

Stuttgart is also not bad at all even they lost against Real Madrid, but we can expect good performance from them in coming matches as they are having good fight back against Dortmund in Bundesliga game and now next game they are going to play at home against Sparta Prague which is going to be interesting with Stuttgart is heavy favourite for the win in this game.
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September 26, 2024, 01:58:57 AM
I was wondering how Atalanta was able to handle Arsenal to the finish with a draw but I was also not too surprised considering that the Atalanta side is in good shape and could have worked hard to hold the Arsenal team tight enough. Ademola Lookman amongst other top strikers have always been players to look forward to whenever we discuss Atalanta of today and how well they're performing. I didn't really expect that they will hold Arsenal to the point of gaining more possessions than the latter but it is always good to equally establish the good efforts and hard work of the manager too.
Well, their draw against Arsenal in the Champions League should have been a good asset for them when they returned to Serie A, but in fact it had no effect at all and they had to suffer defeat from a team that had just been promoted this season, Como. In my opinion, Atalanta's consistency has not been formed well, so they still show something that is beyond predictions, even when the advantage on paper is on their side. Interestingly, when facing a team that is considered stronger, they will be able to show a good game, but when they face a team that is considered weaker than them, they will actually have difficulty in that match.
Atalanta is a good team but the Serie A championship is very, very competitive this year and it is normal that sometimes you lose a few games, there are at least 10 teams who could all win the championship, new teams where there are really strong players so it's normal for the champions they are working you will see that they will have an excellent tournament!
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September 26, 2024, 01:29:00 AM
I was wondering how Atalanta was able to handle Arsenal to the finish with a draw but I was also not too surprised considering that the Atalanta side is in good shape and could have worked hard to hold the Arsenal team tight enough. Ademola Lookman amongst other top strikers have always been players to look forward to whenever we discuss Atalanta of today and how well they're performing. I didn't really expect that they will hold Arsenal to the point of gaining more possessions than the latter but it is always good to equally establish the good efforts and hard work of the manager too.
Well, their draw against Arsenal in the Champions League should have been a good asset for them when they returned to Serie A, but in fact it had no effect at all and they had to suffer defeat from a team that had just been promoted this season, Como. In my opinion, Atalanta's consistency has not been formed well, so they still show something that is beyond predictions, even when the advantage on paper is on their side. Interestingly, when facing a team that is considered stronger, they will be able to show a good game, but when they face a team that is considered weaker than them, they will actually have difficulty in that match.
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September 26, 2024, 01:05:35 AM
I was wondering how Atalanta was able to handle Arsenal to the finish with a draw but I was also not too surprised considering that the Atalanta side is in good shape and could have worked hard to hold the Arsenal team tight enough. Ademola Lookman amongst other top strikers have always been players to look forward to whenever we discuss Atalanta of today and how well they're performing. I didn't really expect that they will hold Arsenal to the point of gaining more possessions than the latter but it is always good to equally establish the good efforts and hard work of the manager too.
Atalanta and Arsenal are still quite good teams this season and both have good defenses at the back so a goalless draw is very common for them because apart from both of them are still strong, both are teams that have good playing patterns this season. The next match in the Champions League for both teams will also be more crucial as Arsenal will host PSG at their home and Atalanta will be the guest at Shakhtar Donetsk, but the opponents that Arsenal get next are much more competitive than the ones Atalanta will face.
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Next week we will have some interesing games.
Leverkusen Milan and Arsenal PSG are indeed the top 2 games of the day on the paper.

If Milan will lose, and it is possible vs Bayer their situation will be already critical with 0 points in 2 games.

For the next turn we will go back in two day schdule and not 3 day like the 1st week, weird.

18 games in 2 days, with 7 games at the same hour.

They lose so much money from tv in this way...
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September 25, 2024, 04:58:27 PM
If considered wisely, it is true that Atalanta with its potential is quite strong in the Champions League, even though many people have one eye on Atalanta but they really prove themselves quite well and the results they show are their true strength, without denying themselves that Atalanta in the Europa final really conquered the team that many people praised there, then what exactly do they see about Atalanta? Whether it's the lack of popularity or the lack of star players that make people think that way, the match against Arsenal showed that they can keep up with the top teams in the Premier League.

Indeed, Atalanta in the UEFA League cannot be underestimated at all, because although Atalanta is an unstable team in Serie A, but Atalanta always has a chance to make a surprise  in the UEFA League. Moreover, for the next few matches  at least Atalanta get opponents that are not too difficult like Shakhtar Donetsk, Celtic, Stuttgart, Young Boys although indeed, I also do not underestimate these teams. But, because we consider Atalanta who have good success when playing against seeded teams, then when Atalanta play against non-seeded teams it can be a great chance for Atalanta to win.

However, I also believe that teams like Celtic and Stuttgart also have a good chance of being able to beat Atalanta, and any result is at least still possible. Thus, at least Atalanta still has a chance to qualify for the last 16 but for me, Atalanta will not be able to advance further like to the semifinals, it seems that to get to that round Atalanta is still  not strong enough.

You see Celtic and Stuttgart; those two teams should not be underestimated, especially Celtic; they are also not weak, and they can also beat Atlanta, as you said. I cannot deny the fact that Atlanta is good in the Champions League, but still, these teams that we think are weak can put in too much effort to see that they draw, or probably it will be difficult for Atlanta to beat them, as we are saying. For the semi-finals, you know, their other top teams that are tough and doing better than Atlanta, so those teams will bring Atlanta down; they will find it hard to go to that stage. 
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September 25, 2024, 04:28:30 PM
The way Arsenal competed against Manchester City we naturally expected Arsenal to pick up full points against Atalanta in the Champions League but they failed there. Arsenal held to a goalless draw in their Champions League match against Atalanta. Even if we discuss the details of the match, there is no chance to keep Arsenal ahead. Throughout the period it seemed as though Arsenal were perhaps the weaker opposition to Atalanta and they were more focused on counter-attacking than attacking. If the opinion is given about the ball possession between the two teams, then we have clearly noticed that Atalanta have more possession in their favor than Arsenal.

Arsenal drew this match and have their second match in October against PSG where they will hope to win.
Arsenal have a great perform against the Manchester City which was impressed so many people’s especially the fans they where not expecting that kind of the performance from there looks very admirable, although that Arsenal performances was so badly in their last match against Atalanta which a lot of people’s was blamed arsenal; but what I think there is that may it because is that very day they started the champions league and their not well prepared, that’s why Atalanta have that opportunity to give Arsenal pressure with so much attacking.

However, I know Arsenal will not repeat that kind of performance again in their next match, but to be sincere I was so surprised with the way Atalanta the entire possession, but arsenal didn’t give them any chances of winning the match that’s why it ended up in draw.
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September 25, 2024, 04:27:01 PM
Last season Arsenal also performed extraordinary in the Premier League. Arsenal even beat Man City in several meetings last season in the Premier League and other domestic leagues. And I remember last season many people also hoped that Arsenal would also play very well in the Champions League. But what happened last season seemed to be that Arsenal was not mentally prepared for the big pressure from a big league like the UCL. But this time or this season, I think Arteta has prepared the Arsenal squad much better. And yes, with their current condition, Arsenal will actually be very favored in the UCL. But yes, provided they remain consistent with their performance as they showed in the Premier League.

Everyone surprised against Arsenal, because people are thinking Arsenal will defeat Atalanta, but things done go way, making it difficult for Arteta to get three points, but I think is because of the premier league that they have against Manchester City, that is why they didn't put more effort on the game, making Atalanta control the ball more than them, Arsenal are more focusing on the league more than the ucl, Arteta wants to achieve the league because he has been long in the club, but he as no win the league for the club, am just waiting for Manchester City to drop point so that Arteta can top the league, because am sure if Arteta get the opportunity to lead the league now he won't like to lose any game again, because that make him lose trophy last two seasons that pass. Arsenal and Manchester City have draw there first ucl game against Italy club. Am sure both of them will try and win there next ucl game next week, because they are in good form is just that the opponent defends well and not making them to get into the box to achieve to goal.
Well, it could be as you say. Because Arteta must have felt very disappointed with several seasons in the Premier League, where from the start of the season until towards the end of the season we always saw Arsenal dominate at the top of the standings but at the end of the season Man City always managed to catch up and overtake Arsenal. Well, Arteta definitely doesn't want that to happen again this season in the Premier League. So I would also understand if Arteta wanted to focus more on the Premier League. But I'm sure that in this UCL Arsenal will also perform well. even though in the first match they only got a draw. But yeah, I hope that in the next match Arsenal can win the match.

But the problem is that the next opponent Arsenal will face in the UCL is PSG, which is indeed one of the strong teams in the UCL. And after fighting PSG, it turns out that Arsenal will also face Inter Milan, which is also one of the strongest teams from Italy. I think Arsenal were really tested very hard at the start.
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September 25, 2024, 04:16:24 PM
Arsenal put up a great performance against Manchester City. Of course, it would be logical for them to want to replace injured players, but Arsenal seem to be fully prepared at the moment. They have not been defeated in the league yet and drew with a goal they conceded in the last minutes against Manchester City. They were going to beat Manchester City. This shows us how well they played. Arsenal is a dangerous team this year. They will continue to be competitive in the Premier League until the end of the year. They can also be one of the teams close to the final in the Champions League, as long as things go well. Their squad is suitable for this.
Last season Arsenal also performed extraordinary in the Premier League. Arsenal even beat Man City in several meetings last season in the Premier League and other domestic leagues. And I remember last season many people also hoped that Arsenal would also play very well in the Champions League. But what happened last season seemed to be that Arsenal was not mentally prepared for the big pressure from a big league like the UCL. But this time or this season, I think Arteta has prepared the Arsenal squad much better. And yes, with their current condition, Arsenal will actually be very favored in the UCL. But yes, provided they remain consistent with their performance as they showed in the Premier League.

Everyone surprised against Arsenal, because people are thinking Arsenal will defeat Atalanta, but things done go way, making it difficult for Arteta to get three points, but I think is because of the premier league that they have against Manchester City, that is why they didn't put more effort on the game, making Atalanta control the ball more than them, Arsenal are more focusing on the league more than the ucl, Arteta wants to achieve the league because he has been long in the club, but he as no win the league for the club, am just waiting for Manchester City to drop point so that Arteta can top the league, because am sure if Arteta get the opportunity to lead the league now he won't like to lose any game again, because that make him lose trophy last two seasons that pass. Arsenal and Manchester City have draw there first ucl game against Italy club. Am sure both of them will try and win there next ucl game next week, because they are in good form is just that the opponent defends well and not making them to get into the box to achieve to goal.
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September 25, 2024, 03:48:02 PM
Arsenal put up a great performance against Manchester City. Of course, it would be logical for them to want to replace injured players, but Arsenal seem to be fully prepared at the moment. They have not been defeated in the league yet and drew with a goal they conceded in the last minutes against Manchester City. They were going to beat Manchester City. This shows us how well they played. Arsenal is a dangerous team this year. They will continue to be competitive in the Premier League until the end of the year. They can also be one of the teams close to the final in the Champions League, as long as things go well. Their squad is suitable for this.
Last season Arsenal also performed extraordinary in the Premier League. Arsenal even beat Man City in several meetings last season in the Premier League and other domestic leagues. And I remember last season many people also hoped that Arsenal would also play very well in the Champions League. But what happened last season seemed to be that Arsenal was not mentally prepared for the big pressure from a big league like the UCL. But this time or this season, I think Arteta has prepared the Arsenal squad much better. And yes, with their current condition, Arsenal will actually be very favored in the UCL. But yes, provided they remain consistent with their performance as they showed in the Premier League.
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September 25, 2024, 03:40:23 PM
Last year Lens beat Arsenal 2-1 and then only Bayern were able to stop Arsenal. We are not saying that Lens is a strong team. Atalanta is a good team, but they are not even close to the pool of teams that play for the title among themselves. Only a very rare set of circumstances can allow Atalanta to claim the title (something like Dortmund reaching the final). Bookmakers estimate Atalanta's chances at 1 in 51.

I was wondering how Atalanta was able to handle Arsenal to the finish with a draw but I was also not too surprised considering that the Atalanta side is in good shape and could have worked hard to hold the Arsenal team tight enough. Ademola Lookman amongst other top strikers have always been players to look forward to whenever we discuss Atalanta of today and how well they're performing. I didn't really expect that they will hold Arsenal to the point of gaining more possessions than the latter but it is always good to equally establish the good efforts and hard work of the manager too.
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September 25, 2024, 03:28:03 PM
I believe Atlanta is one of the good teams in Serie A but here we also need to understand they are having unpredictable nature which make things tough for them while one day they are having impressive performance then in next game they are having terrible performance as we have them against Como in last night game with things were completely favourable for them, but they have gone down and out of the game and give them first win of this season.

Atlanta having favourable fixtures in early rounds of the Champions League which are surely going to have good positive impact on their performance for the next round, and they can bring good changes as well because after few matches surely things will be developed, and they will be able to have good improvement into their performance which will give them good booster right now any prediction about their future is surely not going to be correct.
Atalanta literally just lost to Como, the volatility of that team and the inconsistent results looks like they are not going to do all that great and we shouldn't be really worried about it. I personally believe that the best thing that they could do right now would be just looking into this as something that will take a while and shouldn't really be worried about it all that much.

We need to realize that this is going to end up with some problems on the long run but it can't be fixed easily. Como beating them showed the world that Arsenal should have beaten them easily as well, and I understand that Atalanta may have rested a few, and maybe tired and all that, but its no excuse for Arsenal, they needed to win for sure. Como on the other hand is still trying to look better, they are trying to do as good as they can, to finish the league higher. Atalanta is a team that may have some good results in UCL, but it depends on their consistency of the results and not have unexpected losses.
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September 25, 2024, 03:02:26 PM
So far, Arsenal's obstacle is a pure striker who can be relied on by the team, unfortunately Arteta has not brought him even though he is actually their need. Talking about Arsenal in the Champions League, I don't have much hope. However, if Arsenal's players recover from their injuries as a whole. I am quite sure that every team that meets Arsenal will have a hard time facing their resistance. Although, they do not have a very qualified number 9 player. Uniquely, Arsenal is that every player is allowed to take the opportunity if they have the opportunity to score a goal. Like in Arsenal's front line, their three front strikers always rotate, open up space for their teammates, then try to penetrate the opponent's defense and create opportunities. As for Atalanta, several teams that are their opponents in the group stage are tough opponents. There is Stuttgart which I think is equal, Real Madrid and Barcelona. We all know, it is not easy for Atalanta to win the match.

I still have not heard the reason why Arsenal refused to get a good striker in the transfer window, after losing Eddie Nketiah in the summer and knowing what is at stake this season. It is about that time Arsenal bring in a prolific striker to the squad because they are lacking a very good finisher to lead their attacking play and guarantee at least 20 goals per season for the club.
Arsenal has make their priority to gets new striker this summer so they didn't refuse to buy the striker who potentially can scores a lot of goals for them and we can see it based on their previous rumours because some of good players such as Osimhen, Viktor Gyökeres and Ivan Toney are linked to them even for Osimhen Arsenal almost got this player but because at that time Napoli demanding high price above to 100 million so this makes Arsenal didn't dare to bought him and they had decide to withdraw from the race to gets Osimhen

When Arsenal buy Raheem Sterling i was a bit dissapoint with their decision because i am sure Raheem Sterling will not be able to solved the weaknesses of Arsenal which is currently they lack of world class players for striker position and my prediction it just happend that Raheem Sterling currently only spend his time on the bench and he still unable to scores with Arsenal
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September 25, 2024, 02:37:05 PM
There is no doubt that Atalanta is good in European competitions but I doubt if such will happen this season in UCL because this is not Europa that have more of weak teams compared to UCL. Atalanta is still on a poor form because they lost their domestic match during the weekend and I don't think any magic can be performed in UCL because it is survival of the fittest.

I won’t entirely say their form is bad but will say their form in the domestic league is bad as compared to what they played in the champions league in their first encounter with Arsenal as their opponent. Arsenal is not a team that is mediocre to them, so everyone would have expected them to lose the match but they were able to hold Arsenal to a draw. If they can do that, we will also assume they can beat their small opponent in the domestic league which they couldn’t. Different quality of play in two different competitions. I will say they hold the UCL in high esteem as they do to the domestic league.

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Last season that Atalanta was able to win Europa go and check out their performance, they were in form compared to this season and they are also playing a bigger league and not the same as last season. It is possible for them to qualify to thw round of 16 if the clubs in their group are weak but they will not survive the round of 16 because they will meet a strong team.

Their qualification to the next round will depend on how their performance is on this first round and the position they finish on the table by end of the first round. They should know the teams they’ll be meeting from now till end of the first round, so they should be extra prepared to take the most out of those points so that they’ll finish in a good position in the league.

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September 25, 2024, 02:11:30 PM
If considered wisely, it is true that Atalanta with its potential is quite strong in the Champions League, even though many people have one eye on Atalanta but they really prove themselves quite well and the results they show are their true strength, without denying themselves that Atalanta in the Europa final really conquered the team that many people praised there, then what exactly do they see about Atalanta? Whether it's the lack of popularity or the lack of star players that make people think that way, the match against Arsenal showed that they can keep up with the top teams in the Premier League.

Last year Lens beat Arsenal 2-1 and then only Bayern were able to stop Arsenal. We are not saying that Lens is a strong team. Atalanta is a good team, but they are not even close to the pool of teams that play for the title among themselves. Only a very rare set of circumstances can allow Atalanta to claim the title (something like Dortmund reaching the final). Bookmakers estimate Atalanta's chances at 1 in 51.
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September 25, 2024, 01:54:51 PM
Arsenal has two strikers available, Havertz and Gabriel. They don't mind adding a new striker. They think those two names are enough to help them this season. They are focusing on other positions, not the striker position. They scored a lot last season. It's probably their reason to feel confident enough with their available strikers. And they decided not to sign a new striker.
I also think that it's not a problem for Arsenal when they don't recruit a new striker, although it wouldn't be wrong if Arsenal wanted to recruit another new striker to replace one of them if they get injured during the season. However, the reason you said could also be very logical because Arsenal also thinks more about other more important lines such as the midfield and defense so that the opposing team will not easily break into their goal when competing in any competition.
Arsenal put up a great performance against Manchester City. Of course, it would be logical for them to want to replace injured players, but Arsenal seem to be fully prepared at the moment. They have not been defeated in the league yet and drew with a goal they conceded in the last minutes against Manchester City. They were going to beat Manchester City. This shows us how well they played. Arsenal is a dangerous team this year. They will continue to be competitive in the Premier League until the end of the year. They can also be one of the teams close to the final in the Champions League, as long as things go well. Their squad is suitable for this.
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September 25, 2024, 01:18:26 PM
If considered wisely, it is true that Atalanta with its potential is quite strong in the Champions League, even though many people have one eye on Atalanta but they really prove themselves quite well and the results they show are their true strength, without denying themselves that Atalanta in the Europa final really conquered the team that many people praised there, then what exactly do they see about Atalanta? Whether it's the lack of popularity or the lack of star players that make people think that way, the match against Arsenal showed that they can keep up with the top teams in the Premier League.

Indeed, Atalanta in the UEFA League cannot be underestimated at all, because although Atalanta is an unstable team in Serie A, but Atalanta always has a chance to make a surprise  in the UEFA League. Moreover, for the next few matches  at least Atalanta get opponents that are not too difficult like Shakhtar Donetsk, Celtic, Stuttgart, Young Boys although indeed, I also do not underestimate these teams. But, because we consider Atalanta who have good success when playing against seeded teams, then when Atalanta play against non-seeded teams it can be a great chance for Atalanta to win.

However, I also believe that teams like Celtic and Stuttgart also have a good chance of being able to beat Atalanta, and any result is at least still possible. Thus, at least Atalanta still has a chance to qualify for the last 16 but for me, Atalanta will not be able to advance further like to the semifinals, it seems that to get to that round Atalanta is still  not strong enough.
There is no doubt that Atalanta is good in European competitions but I doubt if such will happen this season in UCL because this is not Europa that have more of weak teams compared to UCL. Atalanta is still on a poor form because they lost their domestic match during the weekend and I don't think any magic can be performed in UCL because it is survival of the fittest.

Last season that Atalanta was able to win Europa go and check out their performance, they were in form compared to this season and they are also playing a bigger league and not the same as last season. It is possible for them to qualify to thw round of 16 if the clubs in their group are weak but they will not survive the round of 16 because they will meet a strong team.
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September 25, 2024, 01:02:23 PM
If considered wisely, it is true that Atalanta with its potential is quite strong in the Champions League, even though many people have one eye on Atalanta but they really prove themselves quite well and the results they show are their true strength, without denying themselves that Atalanta in the Europa final really conquered the team that many people praised there, then what exactly do they see about Atalanta? Whether it's the lack of popularity or the lack of star players that make people think that way, the match against Arsenal showed that they can keep up with the top teams in the Premier League.

Indeed, Atalanta in the UEFA League cannot be underestimated at all, because although Atalanta is an unstable team in Serie A, but Atalanta always has a chance to make a surprise  in the UEFA League. Moreover, for the next few matches  at least Atalanta get opponents that are not too difficult like Shakhtar Donetsk, Celtic, Stuttgart, Young Boys although indeed, I also do not underestimate these teams. But, because we consider Atalanta who have good success when playing against seeded teams, then when Atalanta play against non-seeded teams it can be a great chance for Atalanta to win.

However, I also believe that teams like Celtic and Stuttgart also have a good chance of being able to beat Atalanta, and any result is at least still possible. Thus, at least Atalanta still has a chance to qualify for the last 16 but for me, Atalanta will not be able to advance further like to the semifinals, it seems that to get to that round Atalanta is still  not strong enough.
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September 25, 2024, 12:57:03 PM
Nketiah scored 5 goals in 27 games last year. He wasn't a very productive forward. Crystal didn't start the league very well this year either. Arsenal actually lacks a forward like Haaland. The last time they didn't have a forward was probably during the Thierry Henry era. They must be an unlucky team because they've been feeling this lack for a long time. I think they need a forward like Haaland. Haaland scored 100 goals in 105 games for City. A statistic that could make them champions on its own.
Every player in the front line must have the instinct to score more goals because their job is to be able to finish well when there is a pass from their own team mates. While Arsenal's front line players are not like that although I also don't think they are bad because for this season Arsenal is still quite good in the domestic league and also in the Champions League. So they only need a few new adjustments to be able to increase their strength in the front line even though they don't have players like Haaland who always get more support from their teammates.
That's a little bit of Arsenal's shortcomings, not having a pure striker like Haaland who is able to maximize opportunities to become goals, Arteta just needs a little polish to strengthen his team, the puzzle must be found immediately to make Arsenal stronger. Even so, I don't doubt the strength of the Gunners at this time, they are still a threat to other clubs, especially the players show their compactness in creating opportunities and one more thing, opponents must be aware of Arsenal's dead balls, they often create goals from corner kicks.
I hope Arteta can take Arsenal further in the UCL this season.
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September 25, 2024, 12:50:14 PM
If considered wisely, it is true that Atalanta with its potential is quite strong in the Champions League, even though many people have one eye on Atalanta but they really prove themselves quite well and the results they show are their true strength, without denying themselves that Atalanta in the Europa final really conquered the team that many people praised there, then what exactly do they see about Atalanta? Whether it's the lack of popularity or the lack of star players that make people think that way, the match against Arsenal showed that they can keep up with the top teams in the Premier League.
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