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September 26, 2024, 01:17:06 PM
Arsenal needs a winning player who can dribble into the box like the way Vini Jr and Rodrygo are doing in Real Madrid, Dribble into the box also brings goals to the team but Saka and Martinelli are not good in that kind of style, Arteta needs to let those wing player's dribble and also create and chance to win games, I'm not arsenal fan but I want Arsenal to win the league title this season because the team has tried since many years to win the league title.

It is not about dribbling into the box but it’s about the strategy used by the coach that will tell how well the players can apply that into the game. If dribbling into the box works for Real Madrid, it doesn’t mean it’ll work for Arsenal when they use the same method for it. Every coach has their own style of play and if he decides to copy Real Madrid as you’ve seen it as the most reliable way for them to win, they may end up not getting anything from it. Arteta has a strategy and if he can use it well for himself, I’m certain he’s going to win big with the team.
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September 26, 2024, 01:00:40 PM
Next week we will have some interesing games.
Leverkusen Milan and Arsenal PSG are indeed the top 2 games of the day on the paper.

If Milan will lose, and it is possible vs Bayer their situation will be already critical with 0 points in 2 games.

For the next turn we will go back in two day schdule and not 3 day like the 1st week, weird.

18 games in 2 days, with 7 games at the same hour.

They lose so much money from tv in this way...
Here I agree with you about this as we are having next schedule for two days, so UEFA is going to lose huge funds because having 7 games at the same time are never been ideal they needed to work on this as they increased number of games and bring new format, but things are getting problematic for them as well so if they are not sorted out this most chances they will be lost good amount and also have few other problems like workload for the players as well.

After first round games things are going tense for few teams like Milan because they are looking for first win which is not easy against Bayer Leverkusen as they lost badly at home against Liverpool which is currently in the best shape and now this second opponent is also challenging Arsenal vs PSG is going to be interesting game with Arsenal will have good advantage as they are playing at home and PSG was not good in first game against Girona at home.
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September 26, 2024, 12:33:22 PM
Last season that Atalanta was able to win Europa go and check out their performance, they were in form compared to this season and they are also playing a bigger league and not the same as last season. It is possible for them to qualify to thw round of 16 if the clubs in their group are weak but they will not survive the round of 16 because they will meet a strong team.
Atalanta's performance in their next 4 Championship League matches will tell how their limit to the Champions League would be because they are to face Shakhtar Donetsk(away), Celtic(home), VFB Stuttgart(away), and Young Boys(away), before facing Real Madrid and Barcelona next. However, I support your stated fact that they won't survive in their round of 16 because Real Madrid and Barcelona are in the pipeline of the tough teams they will face. There is no way they will defeat the mentioned teams. I considered Atalanta to have some defeats before they would kicked out at the round of 16, from the race for the Champions League title.
Atalanta's performance is not good in their domestic league but when they play in the UCL they can make it difficult for big teams, like yesterday's match they were able to hold Arsenal to a draw, of course that was a good start for Gasperini's squad to collect points, and looking at the schedule you wrote Shakhtar Donetsk, Celtic, Young Boys, VFB Stuttgart.
This match will be maximized by them with a target of full points or at least holding a draw because of course the next match when facing Madrid and Barcelona Atalanta's chances are very small, referring to all that I think Atalanta can qualify for the last 16 directly or through the play-off round.
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September 26, 2024, 12:28:02 PM
I was wondering how Atalanta was able to handle Arsenal to the finish with a draw but I was also not too surprised considering that the Atalanta side is in good shape and could have worked hard to hold the Arsenal team tight enough. Ademola Lookman amongst other top strikers have always been players to look forward to whenever we discuss Atalanta of today and how well they're performing. I didn't really expect that they will hold Arsenal to the point of gaining more possessions than the latter but it is always good to equally establish the good efforts and hard work of the manager too.
Well, their draw against Arsenal in the Champions League should have been a good asset for them when they returned to Serie A, but in fact it had no effect at all and they had to suffer defeat from a team that had just been promoted this season, Como. In my opinion, Atalanta's consistency has not been formed well, so they still show something that is beyond predictions, even when the advantage on paper is on their side. Interestingly, when facing a team that is considered stronger, they will be able to show a good game, but when they face a team that is considered weaker than them, they will actually have difficulty in that match.
Now this is what is difficult to guess, is it because the instincts of the UCL and Serie A games are different? If we judge it should be easier for Como opponents to win at home but instead Atalanta lost it was hard with the last goal.

Whereas against Arsenal the home team almost won if their penalty did not fail, by holding Arsenal's draw it was better not because we predicted Atalanta could lose even at home because the opponent was a strong English team.

I believe that the Champions League matches are different, because some of the competition is fierce and some players have confidence when they have competed in the UCL.
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September 26, 2024, 12:04:02 PM
Last season that Atalanta was able to win Europa go and check out their performance, they were in form compared to this season and they are also playing a bigger league and not the same as last season. It is possible for them to qualify to thw round of 16 if the clubs in their group are weak but they will not survive the round of 16 because they will meet a strong team.
Atalanta's performance in their next 4 Championship League matches will tell how their limit to the Champions League would be because they are to face Shakhtar Donetsk(away), Celtic(home), VFB Stuttgart(away), and Young Boys(away), before facing Real Madrid and Barcelona next. However, I support your stated fact that they won't survive in their round of 16 because Real Madrid and Barcelona are in the pipeline of the tough teams they will face. There is no way they will defeat the mentioned teams. I considered Atalanta to have some defeats before they would kicked out at the round of 16, from the race for the Champions League title.
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September 26, 2024, 11:37:03 AM
Arsenal may get that Gyokeres striker from Sporting, that feels like it would be the very perfect addition without a doubt. Dude is the purest striker you could ever see, there is no doubt about that, even Mbappe can play left wing, but this dude is just a pure goal scoring machine nothing more.

Plus, he has been to premier league before, Brighton and all, so he knows the system there and he has 11 goals in 8 games so far this season, that's unreal and he should definitely be bought. Many clubs will want to buy him, there is no doubt about that, but Arsenal has deep pockets and they could definitely make it happen, just pay like 100 million if you have to and get him, Arsenal should have that much money without a doubt. That would fix their troubles without a doubt.

Arsenal is not the only club who wants his services, i'm sure there are many clubs bigger than Arsenal who want Gyokeres, it's just that we haven't seen any further rumors regarding Gyokeres' transfer. Arsenal are by far the most suitable team, they lack strength up front, and with Gyokeres, i think their squad will be perfect.
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September 26, 2024, 11:24:06 AM
You see Celtic and Stuttgart; those two teams should not be underestimated, especially Celtic; they are also not weak, and they can also beat Atlanta, as you said. I cannot deny the fact that Atlanta is good in the Champions League, but still, these teams that we think are weak can put in too much effort to see that they draw,

Celtic is a club that is going to be very competitive on this champion league because right now I wouldn't be skeptical of they say that Celtic will win Bayern Munich because they are so good, and the thing is that they are moving on a serial form this season because as they are performing well on the champions League that's how they are also doing on there local league because there last match was Scottish league Cup quarter finals and they beat there opposing team with 5:2 and they have qualified to face the semi finals and hopefully they would win the league, also there premiership Scotland they have been unbeaten for good number of matches, so actually when we see a strong club it doesn't take time for them to be noticed, so in terms of wining Atalanta of course they have the performance to win them.
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September 26, 2024, 11:15:06 AM
So far, Arsenal's obstacle is a pure striker who can be relied on by the team, unfortunately Arteta has not brought him even though he is actually their need. Talking about Arsenal in the Champions League, I don't have much hope. However, if Arsenal's players recover from their injuries as a whole. I am quite sure that every team that meets Arsenal will have a hard time facing their resistance. Although, they do not have a very qualified number 9 player. Uniquely, Arsenal is that every player is allowed to take the opportunity if they have the opportunity to score a goal. Like in Arsenal's front line, their three front strikers always rotate, open up space for their teammates, then try to penetrate the opponent's defense and create opportunities. As for Atalanta, several teams that are their opponents in the group stage are tough opponents. There is Stuttgart which I think is equal, Real Madrid and Barcelona. We all know, it is not easy for Atalanta to win the match.

I still have not heard the reason why Arsenal refused to get a good striker in the transfer window, after losing Eddie Nketiah in the summer and knowing what is at stake this season. It is about that time Arsenal bring in a prolific striker to the squad because they are lacking a very good finisher to lead their attacking play and guarantee at least 20 goals per season for the club.

Arsenal has two strikers available, Havertz and Gabriel. They don't mind adding a new striker. They think those two names are enough to help them this season. They are focusing on other positions, not the striker position. They scored a lot last season. It's probably their reason to feel confident enough with their available strikers. And they decided not to sign a new striker.
It all depends on the coach and what he wants, I think Mikel Arteta is satisfied with the performances of both Havertz and Gabriel Jesus hence may not see a reason to bring in an extra hand to assist in that role. Arsenal finished in second position last season behind their bitter rivals Manchester city with lots of goals and assist from Havertz, Gabriel, odegaard and Saka all contributing to the tally, I believe the coach has no doubt in his front liners and would rather seek to strengthen his defense which was why he brought in Riccardo Calafiori to help in the defense because the team had a lot of issues in that area last season and they conceded lots of goals so I think more defenders and more midfielders should be brought in rather than bringing more strikers.
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September 26, 2024, 10:55:42 AM
Arsenal may get that Gyokeres striker from Sporting, that feels like it would be the very perfect addition without a doubt. Dude is the purest striker you could ever see, there is no doubt about that, even Mbappe can play left wing, but this dude is just a pure goal scoring machine nothing more.

Plus, he has been to premier league before, Brighton and all, so he knows the system there and he has 11 goals in 8 games so far this season, that's unreal and he should definitely be bought. Many clubs will want to buy him, there is no doubt about that, but Arsenal has deep pockets and they could definitely make it happen, just pay like 100 million if you have to and get him, Arsenal should have that much money without a doubt. That would fix their troubles without a doubt.

Arsenal signing Gyikeres again? I don't think they will do that even next season, What will Arsenal use him for? Did you know that Arsenal currently has two strikers, Arsenal has Gabriel Jesus and Kai Havatz who are very strong and good in terms of scoring goals, did you think Arsenal's problem is from strikers? For me I don't think striker is Arsenal's problem because Arsenal has two best strikers on the team, Arsenal is not lucky when it comes to winning trophies but we always see Arsenal's performance every season that they play well in every game, the only thing arsenal lack is how to create a chances and score goals against big team's, Arsenal know how to play against big team's but to score goals is their problem and I think the problem is from the wing player's.

Arsenal needs a winning player who can dribble into the box like the way Vini Jr and Rodrygo are doing in Real Madrid, Dribble into the box also brings goals to the team but Saka and Martinelli are not good in that kind of style, Arteta needs to let those wing player's dribble and also create and chance to win games, I'm not arsenal fan but I want Arsenal to win the league title this season because the team has tried since many years to win the league title.
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September 26, 2024, 10:35:53 AM
Arsenal may get that Gyokeres striker from Sporting, that feels like it would be the very perfect addition without a doubt. Dude is the purest striker you could ever see, there is no doubt about that, even Mbappe can play left wing, but this dude is just a pure goal scoring machine nothing more.

Plus, he has been to premier league before, Brighton and all, so he knows the system there and he has 11 goals in 8 games so far this season, that's unreal and he should definitely be bought. Many clubs will want to buy him, there is no doubt about that, but Arsenal has deep pockets and they could definitely make it happen, just pay like 100 million if you have to and get him, Arsenal should have that much money without a doubt. That would fix their troubles without a doubt.
Do you still think it will happen?
It's time for us to think realistically with what Arsenal have done in the transfer market so far, Arteta and Edu are two important actors in determining who they will recruit but we can't deny that Arsenal are still a team that is difficult to spend a lot of money to recruit just one player, Gyokeres not only this season he was linked with Arsenal even in the transfer market last season they were rumored to be getting closer to getting Gyokeres, but in fact?
Gyokeres is a player who has a 100 million release clause and so far he is rumored to be the target of several big English clubs to sign but none of the clubs look serious about signing him considering he has failed in the Premier League previously,I think Gyokeres will continue to be linked with big European clubs later on and if he is able to bring Sporting to better results in the Champions League this season, of course the price will go up and make it more difficult for many clubs to get him except for rich teams like PSG, Madrid and Manchester City, while Arsenal interest still can be a rumour Grin.
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September 26, 2024, 06:08:23 AM
Arsenal may get that Gyokeres striker from Sporting, that feels like it would be the very perfect addition without a doubt. Dude is the purest striker you could ever see, there is no doubt about that, even Mbappe can play left wing, but this dude is just a pure goal scoring machine nothing more.

Plus, he has been to premier league before, Brighton and all, so he knows the system there and he has 11 goals in 8 games so far this season, that's unreal and he should definitely be bought. Many clubs will want to buy him, there is no doubt about that, but Arsenal has deep pockets and they could definitely make it happen, just pay like 100 million if you have to and get him, Arsenal should have that much money without a doubt. That would fix their troubles without a doubt.
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September 26, 2024, 05:32:42 AM
You see Celtic and Stuttgart; those two teams should not be underestimated, especially Celtic; they are also not weak, and they can also beat Atlanta, as you said. I cannot deny the fact that Atlanta is good in the Champions League, but still, these teams that we think are weak can put in too much effort to see that they draw, or probably it will be difficult for Atlanta to beat them, as we are saying. For the semi-finals, you know, their other top teams that are tough and doing better than Atlanta, so those teams will bring Atlanta down; they will find it hard to go to that stage. 
Celtic performance in first game of this season in UEFA Champions League were amazing because no one were expecting result like this while Slovan Bratislava is also good team and having top spot in Slovakian League, but things were completely surprising in this first game of Champions League with Celtic were dominating from the start and until end we are having 5 goals from them which is amazing stuff now they are having next game against Dortmund which is also at his prime with having good result against Club Brugge now next game is going to be challenging for the Celtic as they can keep momentum, or we will have easy win for the Dortmund.

Stuttgart is also not bad at all even they lost against Real Madrid, but we can expect good performance from them in coming matches as they are having good fight back against Dortmund in Bundesliga game and now next game they are going to play at home against Sparta Prague which is going to be interesting with Stuttgart is heavy favourite for the win in this game.
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September 26, 2024, 01:58:57 AM
I was wondering how Atalanta was able to handle Arsenal to the finish with a draw but I was also not too surprised considering that the Atalanta side is in good shape and could have worked hard to hold the Arsenal team tight enough. Ademola Lookman amongst other top strikers have always been players to look forward to whenever we discuss Atalanta of today and how well they're performing. I didn't really expect that they will hold Arsenal to the point of gaining more possessions than the latter but it is always good to equally establish the good efforts and hard work of the manager too.
Well, their draw against Arsenal in the Champions League should have been a good asset for them when they returned to Serie A, but in fact it had no effect at all and they had to suffer defeat from a team that had just been promoted this season, Como. In my opinion, Atalanta's consistency has not been formed well, so they still show something that is beyond predictions, even when the advantage on paper is on their side. Interestingly, when facing a team that is considered stronger, they will be able to show a good game, but when they face a team that is considered weaker than them, they will actually have difficulty in that match.
Atalanta is a good team but the Serie A championship is very, very competitive this year and it is normal that sometimes you lose a few games, there are at least 10 teams who could all win the championship, new teams where there are really strong players so it's normal for the champions they are working you will see that they will have an excellent tournament!
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September 26, 2024, 01:29:00 AM
I was wondering how Atalanta was able to handle Arsenal to the finish with a draw but I was also not too surprised considering that the Atalanta side is in good shape and could have worked hard to hold the Arsenal team tight enough. Ademola Lookman amongst other top strikers have always been players to look forward to whenever we discuss Atalanta of today and how well they're performing. I didn't really expect that they will hold Arsenal to the point of gaining more possessions than the latter but it is always good to equally establish the good efforts and hard work of the manager too.
Well, their draw against Arsenal in the Champions League should have been a good asset for them when they returned to Serie A, but in fact it had no effect at all and they had to suffer defeat from a team that had just been promoted this season, Como. In my opinion, Atalanta's consistency has not been formed well, so they still show something that is beyond predictions, even when the advantage on paper is on their side. Interestingly, when facing a team that is considered stronger, they will be able to show a good game, but when they face a team that is considered weaker than them, they will actually have difficulty in that match.
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September 26, 2024, 01:05:35 AM
I was wondering how Atalanta was able to handle Arsenal to the finish with a draw but I was also not too surprised considering that the Atalanta side is in good shape and could have worked hard to hold the Arsenal team tight enough. Ademola Lookman amongst other top strikers have always been players to look forward to whenever we discuss Atalanta of today and how well they're performing. I didn't really expect that they will hold Arsenal to the point of gaining more possessions than the latter but it is always good to equally establish the good efforts and hard work of the manager too.
Atalanta and Arsenal are still quite good teams this season and both have good defenses at the back so a goalless draw is very common for them because apart from both of them are still strong, both are teams that have good playing patterns this season. The next match in the Champions League for both teams will also be more crucial as Arsenal will host PSG at their home and Atalanta will be the guest at Shakhtar Donetsk, but the opponents that Arsenal get next are much more competitive than the ones Atalanta will face.
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September 25, 2024, 05:36:03 PM
Next week we will have some interesing games.
Leverkusen Milan and Arsenal PSG are indeed the top 2 games of the day on the paper.

If Milan will lose, and it is possible vs Bayer their situation will be already critical with 0 points in 2 games.

For the next turn we will go back in two day schdule and not 3 day like the 1st week, weird.

18 games in 2 days, with 7 games at the same hour.

They lose so much money from tv in this way...
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September 25, 2024, 04:58:27 PM
If considered wisely, it is true that Atalanta with its potential is quite strong in the Champions League, even though many people have one eye on Atalanta but they really prove themselves quite well and the results they show are their true strength, without denying themselves that Atalanta in the Europa final really conquered the team that many people praised there, then what exactly do they see about Atalanta? Whether it's the lack of popularity or the lack of star players that make people think that way, the match against Arsenal showed that they can keep up with the top teams in the Premier League.

Indeed, Atalanta in the UEFA League cannot be underestimated at all, because although Atalanta is an unstable team in Serie A, but Atalanta always has a chance to make a surprise  in the UEFA League. Moreover, for the next few matches  at least Atalanta get opponents that are not too difficult like Shakhtar Donetsk, Celtic, Stuttgart, Young Boys although indeed, I also do not underestimate these teams. But, because we consider Atalanta who have good success when playing against seeded teams, then when Atalanta play against non-seeded teams it can be a great chance for Atalanta to win.

However, I also believe that teams like Celtic and Stuttgart also have a good chance of being able to beat Atalanta, and any result is at least still possible. Thus, at least Atalanta still has a chance to qualify for the last 16 but for me, Atalanta will not be able to advance further like to the semifinals, it seems that to get to that round Atalanta is still  not strong enough.

You see Celtic and Stuttgart; those two teams should not be underestimated, especially Celtic; they are also not weak, and they can also beat Atlanta, as you said. I cannot deny the fact that Atlanta is good in the Champions League, but still, these teams that we think are weak can put in too much effort to see that they draw, or probably it will be difficult for Atlanta to beat them, as we are saying. For the semi-finals, you know, their other top teams that are tough and doing better than Atlanta, so those teams will bring Atlanta down; they will find it hard to go to that stage. 
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September 25, 2024, 04:28:30 PM
The way Arsenal competed against Manchester City we naturally expected Arsenal to pick up full points against Atalanta in the Champions League but they failed there. Arsenal held to a goalless draw in their Champions League match against Atalanta. Even if we discuss the details of the match, there is no chance to keep Arsenal ahead. Throughout the period it seemed as though Arsenal were perhaps the weaker opposition to Atalanta and they were more focused on counter-attacking than attacking. If the opinion is given about the ball possession between the two teams, then we have clearly noticed that Atalanta have more possession in their favor than Arsenal.

Arsenal drew this match and have their second match in October against PSG where they will hope to win.
Arsenal have a great perform against the Manchester City which was impressed so many people’s especially the fans they where not expecting that kind of the performance from there looks very admirable, although that Arsenal performances was so badly in their last match against Atalanta which a lot of people’s was blamed arsenal; but what I think there is that may it because is that very day they started the champions league and their not well prepared, that’s why Atalanta have that opportunity to give Arsenal pressure with so much attacking.

However, I know Arsenal will not repeat that kind of performance again in their next match, but to be sincere I was so surprised with the way Atalanta the entire possession, but arsenal didn’t give them any chances of winning the match that’s why it ended up in draw.
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September 25, 2024, 04:27:01 PM
Last season Arsenal also performed extraordinary in the Premier League. Arsenal even beat Man City in several meetings last season in the Premier League and other domestic leagues. And I remember last season many people also hoped that Arsenal would also play very well in the Champions League. But what happened last season seemed to be that Arsenal was not mentally prepared for the big pressure from a big league like the UCL. But this time or this season, I think Arteta has prepared the Arsenal squad much better. And yes, with their current condition, Arsenal will actually be very favored in the UCL. But yes, provided they remain consistent with their performance as they showed in the Premier League.

Everyone surprised against Arsenal, because people are thinking Arsenal will defeat Atalanta, but things done go way, making it difficult for Arteta to get three points, but I think is because of the premier league that they have against Manchester City, that is why they didn't put more effort on the game, making Atalanta control the ball more than them, Arsenal are more focusing on the league more than the ucl, Arteta wants to achieve the league because he has been long in the club, but he as no win the league for the club, am just waiting for Manchester City to drop point so that Arteta can top the league, because am sure if Arteta get the opportunity to lead the league now he won't like to lose any game again, because that make him lose trophy last two seasons that pass. Arsenal and Manchester City have draw there first ucl game against Italy club. Am sure both of them will try and win there next ucl game next week, because they are in good form is just that the opponent defends well and not making them to get into the box to achieve to goal.
Well, it could be as you say. Because Arteta must have felt very disappointed with several seasons in the Premier League, where from the start of the season until towards the end of the season we always saw Arsenal dominate at the top of the standings but at the end of the season Man City always managed to catch up and overtake Arsenal. Well, Arteta definitely doesn't want that to happen again this season in the Premier League. So I would also understand if Arteta wanted to focus more on the Premier League. But I'm sure that in this UCL Arsenal will also perform well. even though in the first match they only got a draw. But yeah, I hope that in the next match Arsenal can win the match.

But the problem is that the next opponent Arsenal will face in the UCL is PSG, which is indeed one of the strong teams in the UCL. And after fighting PSG, it turns out that Arsenal will also face Inter Milan, which is also one of the strongest teams from Italy. I think Arsenal were really tested very hard at the start.
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September 25, 2024, 04:16:24 PM
Arsenal put up a great performance against Manchester City. Of course, it would be logical for them to want to replace injured players, but Arsenal seem to be fully prepared at the moment. They have not been defeated in the league yet and drew with a goal they conceded in the last minutes against Manchester City. They were going to beat Manchester City. This shows us how well they played. Arsenal is a dangerous team this year. They will continue to be competitive in the Premier League until the end of the year. They can also be one of the teams close to the final in the Champions League, as long as things go well. Their squad is suitable for this.
Last season Arsenal also performed extraordinary in the Premier League. Arsenal even beat Man City in several meetings last season in the Premier League and other domestic leagues. And I remember last season many people also hoped that Arsenal would also play very well in the Champions League. But what happened last season seemed to be that Arsenal was not mentally prepared for the big pressure from a big league like the UCL. But this time or this season, I think Arteta has prepared the Arsenal squad much better. And yes, with their current condition, Arsenal will actually be very favored in the UCL. But yes, provided they remain consistent with their performance as they showed in the Premier League.

Everyone surprised against Arsenal, because people are thinking Arsenal will defeat Atalanta, but things done go way, making it difficult for Arteta to get three points, but I think is because of the premier league that they have against Manchester City, that is why they didn't put more effort on the game, making Atalanta control the ball more than them, Arsenal are more focusing on the league more than the ucl, Arteta wants to achieve the league because he has been long in the club, but he as no win the league for the club, am just waiting for Manchester City to drop point so that Arteta can top the league, because am sure if Arteta get the opportunity to lead the league now he won't like to lose any game again, because that make him lose trophy last two seasons that pass. Arsenal and Manchester City have draw there first ucl game against Italy club. Am sure both of them will try and win there next ucl game next week, because they are in good form is just that the opponent defends well and not making them to get into the box to achieve to goal.
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