UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season - page 325.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on July 29, 2024, 11:40:34 PM

Second UCL qualifying round for the second leg will start today and of course this will show which team are worthy of continuing their struggle in the future in the most important competition in European football.
Several team managed to win with good score and achieved fairly comfortable aggregate lead in the first leg, they now just need to survive and really ensure that the advantage they previously gained is not in vain.
Several team are favorites in the qualifying second leg, I took several team and made them favorites, but unfortunately in this match almost all of the seeds have low odds.

I think the first two are really good choices. I think Sparta Prague and Fenerbahçe both will win once again. But I'm not sure about Ferencvaros. I mean they won by 5-0 in the first leg but sometimes these teams might surprise us in the other leg because of the complacency.

However I hope you don't have any problem with that too.

Like I said before, it was really difficult to prepare a parlay that could be trusted for the second leg games. I wish the odds were a little higher for some favourites. Rather than placing a bet on a side to win maybe I might go for other bets.

Maybe this BTTS parlay with 2.80 total odds?

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In the first leg there were many clubs that had created a large aggregate so I think in the second leg they might play more relaxed and it doesn't matter if their opponent wins as long as it doesn't exceed what they have scored before, such as Ferencvaros, Malmo, Bodo/Glimt, Midrjyland, Dynamo Kyiv and Jagiellonia so I didn't include them in my parlay bet even though they have small odds because I'm worried they will ruin my bet especially since they are playing away so I only included a few clubs that previously only scored a smaller aggregate but have a slightly bigger chance to continue to the next round hopefully my prediction this time is right Wink

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Second UCL qualifying round for the second leg will start today and of course this will show which team are worthy of continuing their struggle in the future in the most important competition in European football.
Several team managed to win with good score and achieved fairly comfortable aggregate lead in the first leg, they now just need to survive and really ensure that the advantage they previously gained is not in vain.
Several team are favorites in the qualifying second leg, I took several team and made them favorites, but unfortunately in this match almost all of the seeds have low odds.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on July 29, 2024, 07:06:04 PM

Should we expect a very good performance from Girona in the Champions League match?

I don't expect Girona to perform well in Champions League.

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Every team that performs well in the Champions League has either experienced players or experienced coaches. Although Girona performed very well last season, I don't think this team is experienced. It is very difficult to perform well in the Champions League and La Liga at the same time. More importantly, Girona's players are not used to such a busy schedule. This will increase the risk of injury for Girona's players. And when players suffer injuries, the overall performance of the team will naturally suffer.

Their players and coach lack of experience in Champions League and did not have experience with busier schedules by playing in both La Liga and Champions League. It is not easy to adapt to big changes like this but Girona will play their matches in Champions League with fresh mind and enjoy it. They will try their best but going far or going home after the group phase, it is not too important with them. Enjoy Champions League matches as gift for their excellent performances last season, it's big gift for their club and players.

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I would say Girona's main focus should be on La Liga matches. It will be good for them. It would be good for Girona to finish third or fourth in La Liga, and qualify for the Champions League again. Girona's players will gradually become Champions League experienced if 2/3 seasons qualify for the Champions League.

Girona will try to maintain their position in top four of La Liga and this is very challenging task for them. With their limited resources, this task is very difficult for them to make it done as expected. Many clubs in La Liga aim at top four, not only Girona and some clubs have better resources and experience than Girona.

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For now it is still appropriate to say that, but who knows if they are the ones who can make a big surprise in the Champions League next season even though I myself still doubt that both teams can go further in the Champions League. Because if both teams can fail from the start in the Champions League, at least they can go down to the Europa League to be able to compete with the big teams there even though the level of competition is a little different, but it is still quite interesting to watch.

I don't think the team is capable of causing a surprise in the Champions League, as you know, the Champions League is very competitive and big clubs from various Leagues are there. Girona and Bologna have been surprise package in their respective leagues, but the different atmosphere in the Champions League will mean that these clubs will feel the pressure when facing stronger teams.

I have not fully understood the new format implemented in the Champions League in the 2024/25 season, whether there are still teams going down to the Europa League or not, but based on the new format, teams will play eight matches in the new league phase (previously the group phase). They will no longer play three other teams twice (Home and Away), but will face matches against eight different teams and half of the matches will be played at home and the other half will be played away. Based on this format, Girona and Bologna will have a hard time competing with other clubs, especially as they are new teams in the Champions League.

The Champions League is certainly a competitive little tournament where top teams from Europe's best leagues participate in this tournament. No matter how well a team performs in a domestic tournament, it cannot perform the same in the Champions League tournament. This season several new teams have got the opportunity to play in the Champions League, so all those teams are being discussed by journalists and general football fans, but it is a big question that the chances of these teams to do well.

The new teams must come to the Welcome Champions League tournament with their preparation. They plan to face teams like Manchester City, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Arsenal and to do well against these teams, they need quality players in their squad. If they plan to participate in the Champions League and play according to plan, they have a chance to do well.

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Quote from: promise444c5 on July 29, 2024, 06:35:22 PM

I look forward to actually seeing again good performance from Girona with their last performance in Laliga, they should probably channel such energy in the upcoming UCL, although it didn't last much as expected but they really did a great job standing tall in the last laliga which is such a good performance IMO neglecting their flopps because I knew it will be hard for them to keep up in the first place, can't say Bolonga too probably because I'm not familiar to watching their games

Should we expect a very good performance from Girona in the Champions League match? Every team that performs well in the Champions League has either experienced players or experienced coaches. Although Girona performed very well last season, I don't think this team is experienced. It is very difficult to perform well in the Champions League and La Liga at the same time. More importantly, Girona's players are not used to such a busy schedule. This will increase the risk of injury for Girona's players. And when players suffer injuries, the overall performance of the team will naturally suffer.

I would say Girona's main focus should be on La Liga matches. It will be good for them. It would be good for Girona to finish third or fourth in La Liga, and qualify for the Champions League again. Girona's players will gradually become Champions League experienced if 2/3 seasons qualify for the Champions League.

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Quote from: promise444c5 on July 29, 2024, 06:35:22 PM

I look forward to actually seeing again good performance from Girona with their last performance in Laliga, they should probably channel such energy in the upcoming UCL, although it didn't last much as expected but they really did a great job standing tall in the last laliga which is such a good performance IMO neglecting their flopps because I knew it will be hard for them to keep up in the first place, can't say Bolonga too probably because I'm not familiar to watching their games

Girona didn't actually flop, in as much as they made the top4 and came to the champions league, it is good a result. I wasn't expecting them to win the Laliga but I expected them to make the top 4 which they made and that was fantastic.

Also, I am no only expecting to see how Girona will fare in the champions League, I am more concerned about Bayern Leverkusen of Germany. Honestly, Alonso and his boys need to show some class in the champions league this season. It's a tough expectation for Xavi Alonso both in local league and Champions league.

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Quote from: promise444c5 on July 29, 2024, 06:35:22 PM

I look forward to actually seeing again good performance from Girona with their last performance in Laliga, they should probably channel such energy in the upcoming UCL,

It would be a miracle if they make it to the RO16, yes they had a fantastic season in Laliga 23/24, but the CL is something completely different and there is no way Girona can compete with the quality of teams in the CL. Remember how Newcastle came into last season's CL with a lot of promise, but failed to make it past the group stage, so all Girona can do is have as much fun as they can playing their brand of football, because their stay in the CL will be short.

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I look forward to actually seeing again good performance from Girona with their last performance in Laliga, they should probably channel such energy in the upcoming UCL, although it didn't last much as expected but they really did a great job standing tall in the last laliga which is such a good performance IMO neglecting their flopps because I knew it will be hard for them to keep up in the first place, can't say Bolonga too probably because I'm not familiar to watching their games

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Quote from: Spaceman1000$ on July 29, 2024, 04:15:00 PM

I don't know about Bologna, but as for Girona I'm sure they will perform well, at the beginning of last season they were performing very well in their domestic league and even towards the middle of the season, at some point they were even at the top of the table in the Spanish la Liga for a while before Madrid took over the mantle. so I think they have the temperament and the composure to chat a new course in this their champions League journey. If Girona continue the way they played last season, then they are a team to watch out for.

Bologna with the transition where their new coach after Motta left of course this will make the situation different because with the new coach it could be that his performance is not as good as before because after all, different coaches are definitely different from the way they play.

For Girona too, they still haven't experienced a busy schedule because this is their first time in the Champions League so when they can't adapt and organize rotations well, their performance could be different between last season and next season.
Moreover, some of their core players next season are certain to leave such as Savio who is definitely going to Manchester City and Aleix Garcia who is going to Leverkusen, it will definitely make the midfield of Girona a little different.
The expectation remains the same where they remain as surprising as last season but when they can't deal with the pressure then it would be better for them to only focus on one competition.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on July 29, 2024, 09:02:57 AM

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Girona will not have difficulty if they appear like last season. Bologna will also experience the same situation as Girona in the Champions League in a new format. We imagine Girona and Bologna as a team that just competed in the Champions League will be difficult, but I don't think they will experience the worst level of difficulty because they are ready to face competition in a new format that has been set will take place in the 2024/25 season.

Honestly, it is quite doubtful to expect Girona and Bologna to perform well in UCL. You must be aware that these teams have changed, they are no longer the same as the previous season. Some of the key players of Girona have moved to other teams, even their captain left the club. It will be very difficult to maintain the performance if some of key players are no longer in the squad. Meanwhile Bologna has changed their coach because Motta moved to Juventus. I am sure the performance of Bologna won't be the same as the previous season under the new coach. Even in domestic competitions, these teams may be difficult to maintain their performance. It will be harder to play in UCL, I am a bit worried with the performance of these teams in UCL. If they can't play optimally, I think they can't reach the knock-out stage.

I don't know about Bologna, but as for Girona I'm sure they will perform well, at the beginning of last season they were performing very well in their domestic league and even towards the middle of the season, at some point they were even at the top of the table in the Spanish la Liga for a while before Madrid took over the mantle. so I think they have the temperament and the composure to chat a new course in this their champions League journey. If Girona continue the way they played last season, then they are a team to watch out for.

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UEFA Champion League second qualifying round leg 2 of 2 Fenerbahçe vs Lugano

Fenerbahç's manager Jose Mourinho have ambition bring his team get qualify until third round of qualifying and has opportunity for participating in Champion League season 2024/25. Next tomorrow night will face Swiss Super League team Lugano and have advantage after winning first leg over 4-3, but its not really secure yet because lead one goal very risk for Fenerbahçe keep leading the winning aggregate qualify to last round of Champion League qualifier.

First leg match, Edin Dzeko have impressive performance by creating hattrick and he has potential for scoring as many goals on second leg with advantage as home match. I can't imagine with Fenerbahçe's fans atmosphere and give huge pressure for Lugano team behind not easily facing Fenerbahçe at their home match.

Fenerbahçe has established a very good player squad for the next season. I think they will win matches at this level, the motivation of the team is quite high right now and they are doing whatever it takes to win the matches.
They managed to score 4 goals in the first match. Now they will play on their home field, I think they will be much better. I think they will win this match without conceding a goal

They scored four goals in the first match, but they also conceded three. I don't think Jose Mourinho is happy with this situation. Lugano is a team that is not at Fenerbahçe's level. There should be a big difference in quality between the two teams. However, when we look at it, we see Fenerbahçe conceding 3 goals from its opponent. Of course, Fenerbahçe has the advantage since tomorrow's match will be at home, they will be able to pass this stage. However, if they pass this round, their opponent will be Lille, and beating them may not be as easy as Lugano.

Personally I like Fenerbahçe team. But Fenerbahçe is unable to dominate the Super Lig despite building a strong squad in the last few seasons. Fenerbahçe has fielded a title-winning squad every season. But could not hold the top spot in the table at the end of the season.

This is why Fenerbahçe management has appointed an experienced coach like Mourinho. And I would say it was a very good decision by Fenerbahçe management. Fenerbahçe players performed well against FC Lugano. It is expected that Mourinho will be able to gradually build this squad stronger. Fenerbahçe's defense still has some weaknesses. Fenerbahçe's defense needs to be strengthened before the start of the season. Mourinho should start working on Fenerbahçe's defence.

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Quote from: Slow death on July 29, 2024, 11:51:59 AM

I'm thinking of betting on Fenerbahce to win

but it has low odds, I also see it as risky to bet on the over or under goals market, in the both teams score market it has good odds, but I also see it as a bit risky, Fenerbahce did not show good defense in the first leg game and made serious mistakes, while the attack is good, I will probably bet that both teams score

Only on this one? Do you think of placing a big amount of money? That would also be pretty risky though. Sad

I think it would be better to add a few more games to increase the odds to at least 3-4 but it is your choice of course.

I believe Fenerbahçe are going to win once again. This time I expect a more comfortable win honestly. The reason why it ended 4-3 in the 1st leg was that they weren't fully ready for new season yet. I guess they would get better now.

I have also checked the second leg games to see if it makes sense to bet again. The odds are just too low I'm afraid... Maybe I would take some risks by adding 4-5 games anyway.

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Quote from: baeva on July 29, 2024, 02:11:27 PM

I think a lot of people initially did not take these teams as something serious in the Champions League, obviously they are teams that will get into such a competition once in a decade, if not more. So for them to perform in the group stage is already worthy, and if they suddenly get to 1/8, it will be a real success for them

Each club has their own goals when participating on the UCL, and while some of them have as a goal to win it all, as it is the case of Real Madrid and a few other teams, there are other clubs which goal is nothing more than to participate and make the best impression they can, as in this way they can sell the players currently playing for them for a better price and improve their finances on this way, which is not really a bad move when you think about it.

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Quote from: Jossque on July 29, 2024, 02:31:52 PM

The odds are in and it would be a miracle if Fenerbahçe doesn't win against Lugano. I expect Fenerbahce to score at least 2 goals and at most 4. I think Mourinho, who will shower the fans with goals this season, will be appreciated with his goal-oriented football while playing less with the ball. I expect that we will see 2-3 goals against Lugano even in the first half.

Lugano will prefer a defensive style of play. The earlier Fenerbahçe unlocks this lock, the more goals they will score, but if they cannot score in the first half, they may see dangerous positions in their goal with counterattacks in the second half. To be honest, I also expect a Fenerbahçe victory with at least three goals in this match. Fenerbahçe was the team that was much superior in terms of football in the first match. I am sure that they will not give up the advantage in this match either.

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UEFA Champion League second qualifying round leg 2 of 2 Fenerbahçe vs Lugano

Fenerbahç's manager Jose Mourinho have ambition bring his team get qualify until third round of qualifying and has opportunity for participating in Champion League season 2024/25. Next tomorrow night will face Swiss Super League team Lugano and have advantage after winning first leg over 4-3, but its not really secure yet because lead one goal very risk for Fenerbahçe keep leading the winning aggregate qualify to last round of Champion League qualifier.

First leg match, Edin Dzeko have impressive performance by creating hattrick and he has potential for scoring as many goals on second leg with advantage as home match. I can't imagine with Fenerbahçe's fans atmosphere and give huge pressure for Lugano team behind not easily facing Fenerbahçe at their home match.

Fenerbahçe has established a very good player squad for the next season. I think they will win matches at this level, the motivation of the team is quite high right now and they are doing whatever it takes to win the matches.
They managed to score 4 goals in the first match. Now they will play on their home field, I think they will be much better. I think they will win this match without conceding a goal

They scored four goals in the first match, but they also conceded three. I don't think Jose Mourinho is happy with this situation. Lugano is a team that is not at Fenerbahçe's level. There should be a big difference in quality between the two teams. However, when we look at it, we see Fenerbahçe conceding 3 goals from its opponent. Of course, Fenerbahçe has the advantage since tomorrow's match will be at home, they will be able to pass this stage. However, if they pass this round, their opponent will be Lille, and beating them may not be as easy as Lugano.

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Quote from: Slow death on July 29, 2024, 11:51:59 AM

I'm thinking of betting on Fenerbahce to win

but it has low odds, I also see it as risky to bet on the over or under goals market, in the both teams score market it has good odds, but I also see it as a bit risky, Fenerbahce did not show good defense in the first leg game and made serious mistakes, while the attack is good, I will probably bet that both teams score

It is still possible to happen even the chances are quite high for Fenerbahce to win for the second leg this time because besides they are superior on aggregate, they will also play home. In addition, they are still favorites because the level difference is still there and Fenerbahce is still above Lugano, it's just that in terms of performance it looks like Mou should try to change some schemes so that the match goes well.

Their attack line is quite good for now especially with Dzeko who does have good experience so indeed this can be a pretty good weapon for Fenerbahce. but a good attack line is inversely proportional to the midfield and defense that is less solid where their chemistry is still quite weak.
This must be fixed and of course Mou must have realized that so for tomorrow's match with odds of 1.27 it seems that it will not be in vain even though the bet is quite small.

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The odds are in and it would be a miracle if Fenerbahçe doesn't win against Lugano. I expect Fenerbahce to score at least 2 goals and at most 4. I think Mourinho, who will shower the fans with goals this season, will be appreciated with his goal-oriented football while playing less with the ball. I expect that we will see 2-3 goals against Lugano even in the first half.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on July 29, 2024, 09:02:57 AM

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Girona will not have difficulty if they appear like last season. Bologna will also experience the same situation as Girona in the Champions League in a new format. We imagine Girona and Bologna as a team that just competed in the Champions League will be difficult, but I don't think they will experience the worst level of difficulty because they are ready to face competition in a new format that has been set will take place in the 2024/25 season.

Honestly, it is quite doubtful to expect Girona and Bologna to perform well in UCL. You must be aware that these teams have changed, they are no longer the same as the previous season. Some of the key players of Girona have moved to other teams, even their captain left the club. It will be very difficult to maintain the performance if some of key players are no longer in the squad. Meanwhile Bologna has changed their coach because Motta moved to Juventus. I am sure the performance of Bologna won't be the same as the previous season under the new coach. Even in domestic competitions, these teams may be difficult to maintain their performance. It will be harder to play in UCL, I am a bit worried with the performance of these teams in UCL. If they can't play optimally, I think they can't reach the knock-out stage.

I think a lot of people initially did not take these teams as something serious in the Champions League, obviously they are teams that will get into such a competition once in a decade, if not more. So for them to perform in the group stage is already worthy, and if they suddenly get to 1/8, it will be a real success for them

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on July 29, 2024, 06:35:34 AM

On the one hand, I also agree that increasing the club quota in the Champions League to 36 increases opportunities for clubs that are not used to being here. But on the other hand, I am worried that these clubs are just accessories, or in other words, they can't do anything and become goal barns for strong clubs. These are two sides that according to assessment can be positive and negative. However, we have to get used to the new format that will be implemented this season.

Usually we will see 8 groups filled with 4 clubs each, but now all clubs will be in the same standings and the number of matches will increase to 8 in this early phase from the original only playing 6 matches. Each club will get an opponent based on a draw that will be divided into different pots. So as usual we will see the favored club facing the underdog club in this early round. It's just that we won't see the usual hell group that we often wait for in the draw.

The problem with smaller pool is that you are getting the same teams over and over again, with a bigger pool you are going to get some new names, and these clubs will get a lot of money to be there, something like 20-30 million euro per year, and while they won't be there every single year, when they are, that money could go to paying for salaries and new facilities or even getting better players.

That means they can get better, a 30 million is nothing for City or Madrid, but could be huge for some Greek team or some Turkish team or Cyprus or Israel etc etc, even Copenhagen last year did so well in the group stages could use 30 million because it's huge for them.

So think about how some nations may sound like rich nations, but they do not spend much money on football, hence we need to make sure that these teams get some money too. They may not look like they are awesome now, but if they keep getting in, and getting paid, eventually they can grow to be a better team, with right amount of support from fans as well, a team could grow from nearly nothing, to something greater. This is why I believe that increasing the pool is very important, allows more teams to have a better future ahead.

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