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September 19, 2024, 11:14:34 PM
 Arsenal's game last night was amongst the most boring games I've seen yet since the champions league started and although some of it isn't their fault being that they played with so much fatigue but I expected a better turn out than the draw they settled for. Infact, the both sides played like they are very tired. No coordinated pass, as for the Gunners, they tried to maintain some form of control over the game but couldn't and if not that Raya had to step in, the hosts would have carried all three points.
 Now that the two sides facing off on Sunday; Man City vs Arsenal drew their games, I hope we'd see more action from them when they meet because especially for Arsenal, it will be bad that they struggled this way against Atalanta to at least maintain a point and retain some of their players only to go and lose woefully to City on Sunday because then their efforts would be wasted.
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September 19, 2024, 09:59:50 PM
Xabi Alonso's first debut in the Champions League yielded quite satisfactory results, his team was able to score 4 goals at Feyenoord's headquarters, it was a big blow for the home club, Feyenoord had scored a goal but the goal they created was disallowed for offside so Feyenoord could do nothing but accept the defeat besides that the goalkeeper Timon Wellenreuther also made a mistake by putting the ball into his own goal which added to Leverkusen's total score I'm sure the Feyenoord players must be increasingly frustrated because they couldn't reply to the goal against Leverkusen even in the second half they couldn't do much.

I think Leverkusen will be the dark horse this season so clubs like Bayern Munich, Real Madrid and Man City have new competitors this season who also have a chance to compete for the UCL title.
Feyenoord is not a weak team so this big win is a massive win for Leverkusen. It is a big win of course, but more than that it shown very good quality of Leverkusen. It proves that their success last season is not by chance but actually comes from their hard-working and they already improved their quality and competitiveness a lot.

Leverkusen are ready to compete well in Champions League and they don't participate in Champions League this season with fear but with high confidence about their ability to beat opponents around Europe and are ready to go far.

I think this is a loss for Arsenal. If you ask why, Atalanta has been in a lower than expected performance since the beginning of the year. They played very well in the match with the weight of the Champions League and deservedly got the draw. They were unlucky because they could have won. I think this is a negative match result for Arsenal. Because Arteta believed he could win this match but the players could not show the necessary performance on the field. Still, a draw is a better result than a defeat.
At least it is a draw, not a defeat and the opponent is not weak, but strong enough. So this draw is not a loss for Arsenal even result is disappointed and not their expected result. Arsenal have many matches in group phase to fight, get good results, and move to a next phase of Champions League.

They shown that they are ready to learn and improve themselves in latest seasons and this draw will be part of hard lesson they learn, to improve themselves more. It's not the end, but beginning of a brighter chapter for Arsenal.
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September 19, 2024, 09:52:18 PM
Xabi Alonso's first debut in the Champions League yielded quite satisfactory results, his team was able to score 4 goals at Feyenoord's headquarters, it was a big blow for the home club, Feyenoord had scored a goal but the goal they created was disallowed for offside so Feyenoord could do nothing but accept the defeat besides that the goalkeeper Timon Wellenreuther also made a mistake by putting the ball into his own goal which added to Leverkusen's total score I'm sure the Feyenoord players must be increasingly frustrated because they couldn't reply to the goal against Leverkusen even in the second half they couldn't do much.

I think Leverkusen will be the dark horse this season so clubs like Bayern Munich, Real Madrid and Man City have new competitors this season who also have a chance to compete for the UCL title.


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September 19, 2024, 09:46:06 PM
On the other hand Barcelona surprisingly lost from Monaco with slim scores and since Dani Olmo got the injury Hansi Flick was decide to playing with some of young players but apparently this strategy didn't run well even Eric García have to gets red card and playing with 10 players is not easy for Barcelona because they were having trouble and during the match they were playing under pressure and this is Barcelona first loses under Hansi Flick
Despite being unbeaten in La Liga but not guaranteeing victory in the Champions League, Monaco did not let the visitors take home any points from their home and managed to use their man advantage to claim their first win in the UCL. I have no interest in discussing the result of this match at length because Barcelona deserved to lose, they were outclassed in terms of statistics and played very badly. The beginning of Barcelona's defeat due to Eric Garcia red card and Ter Stegen mistake. There is no chance of revenge because the new format in the Champions League no longer has two home and away legs.

Look at how Yamal reacted when he saw Ter Stegen, he seemed to represent the disappointment of Barcelona fans.
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On the other hand Barcelona surprisingly lost from Monaco with slim scores and since Dani Olmo got the injury Hansi Flick was decide to playing with some of young players but apparently this strategy didn't run well even Eric García have to gets red card and playing with 10 players is not easy for Barcelona because they were having trouble and during the match they were playing under pressure and this is Barcelona first loses under Hansi Flick

Barcelona player Eric Garcia wouldn't have been sent off with a red card if he hadn't played with passion. After Eric Garcia went off the field, the Monaco team took advantage of this opportunity and scored a goal for the Monaco team. And when the game was leveled again in the 28th minute, the game continued like this for a long time, but then again in the 71st minute, Monaco player George llenikhena scored a goal.
It was a very simple goal. From in front of the Monaco team's goal post, the ball was thrown directly into the Barcelona team's D box, from where George llenikhena directly entered the goal post through another player.  And the match was won 2-1 by AS Monaco team, but the gamblers lost the most in this match. They were the worst for the Barcelona team.
In my opinion this is a fatal failure for Barcelona in utilizing the 3 initial points in this event because they had to lose one of their midfielders early in the first half, and after he came out Barcelona really lost and they continued to get attacks until what happened in the end was a score of 2-1 for Monaco, but it must be admitted here Monaco looks very confident by playing with its young players Monaco's game is also very piercing and in my opinion they deserve to win this match and Barcelona destroyed us with a betting loss.

A little disappointed with this defeat which made me lose my chance even though I was quite sure with their current performance they were quite good in the previous match but in the Champions they seemed to lose control and in my opinion what is more important for Flick is to balance their mentality so as not to make something fatal that is not desired so that we are together in a state of victory.
Personally, I was also surprised when Barcelona was defeated by Monaco and to be honest I thought Hansi Flick would be able to make the Barcelona players even better even though Olmo didn't play due to injury, but yes, now Barcelona have to swallow the bitter pill because they were defeated by Monaco but of course Monaco. nor can it be taken lightly because its power is extraordinary.

However, what is really a shame is because the red card that Garcia received and of course at an early stage when receiving a red card will certainly put Barcelona under pressure in terms of the number of players and in terms of mentality, it will also sometimes potentially be disturbed. but yes, of course Monaco was very good at taking advantage of the opportunities he got and of course with the lack of Barcelona players when competing because Garcia received a red card, it certainly made Monaco more confident in being able to beat Barcelona. but yes, it is a shame that those who gamble on Barcelona's victory have to swallow the bitter pill, but yes, football matches are sometimes always difficult to guess who will win.

but yes, this failure for Barcelona is certainly very unfortunate because of course Barcelona failed to get 3 points for encouragement, but of course I see that Hansi Flick will definitely learn from the experience that Barcelona has just gone through. and to be honest, I also bet on Barcelona winning, but it's a shame that many people lost their bets, including me. but of course I also saw Monaco playing well and indeed they deserved to win and what is certain is that this made Monaco fans very happy because they managed to beat Barcelona.
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September 19, 2024, 09:24:57 PM
Arsenal does not play impressive football in UCL and they only have strength when they are playing EPL matches. Arsenal should be gald that they had Rayp who prevented the penalty and made two double safe.

Atalanta tried a lot because i never expected such a good performance from them after having a terrible start of this season.
Getting a draw at Atalanta I don't think is a poor result from Mikel Arteta's men. Atalanta is one of the best performing Italian clubs since the start of the year and also possess quality players that can beat any top European team so avoiding a defeat while playing in Atalanta's home turf I think isn't a bad result. Arsenal's top performer of the night was David Raya who made a double quick save which included one from the penalty spot to help his team secure a win in that game.
Gian Piero Gasperini will be disappointed with his team's failure to get all three points from that game despite being awarded a penalty but I think it's a fair result for both teams
I think this is a loss for Arsenal. If you ask why, Atalanta has been in a lower than expected performance since the beginning of the year. They played very well in the match with the weight of the Champions League and deservedly got the draw. They were unlucky because they could have won. I think this is a negative match result for Arsenal. Because Arteta believed he could win this match but the players could not show the necessary performance on the field. Still, a draw is a better result than a defeat.
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September 19, 2024, 08:55:40 PM
To be fair that should be expected. I doubt Man City plays the same without their key players. I remember having a similar discussion in the previous season. It's up to Arteta and his team to find the right formula to win their games. That's what sets apart a great coach from the good ones.
Manchester City have a lot of money, and they bought many star players so that their player resource is very deep which is enough for them to have 2 different squads with almost similar quality. It's just almost, but never can be the same between two different squads. Players when are on bench a long time, have less chance of playing in actual matches, no matter how good they are, will struggle when playing and carrying big tasks again.

Squad B will always be less competitive and play worse than Squad A, it's popular at all clubs.

Arsenal seems pretty amazing in defense, but their offense was crap. They didn't even have the intention to win that game against Atalanta. They recorded 5 shots and 2 on target in their first 22 minutes, but then, they only recorded 1 shot in the rest. And you're right about Raya's double save; it was something for them.
Without an amazing save from Raya, Arsenal would have lost this match but Atalanta shown that they are strong enough to compete against biggest clubs in Champions League. They began this season in Champions League with massive doubt on their competitiveness after promoting to Champions League even last season they won Europa League.

This draw against Arsenal and their performance in a UEFA Super Cub against Real Madrid, are enough to show that Atalanta are very ready for Champions League matches.
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September 19, 2024, 08:33:13 PM
In my opinion this is a fatal failure for Barcelona in utilizing the 3 initial points in this event because they had to lose one of their midfielders early in the first half, and after he came out Barcelona really lost and they continued to get attacks until what happened in the end was a score of 2-1 for Monaco, but it must be admitted here Monaco looks very confident by playing with its young players Monaco's game is also very piercing and in my opinion they deserve to win this match and Barcelona destroyed us with a betting loss.

A little disappointed with this defeat which made me lose my chance even though I was quite sure with their current performance they were quite good in the previous match but in the Champions they seemed to lose control and in my opinion what is more important for Flick is to balance their mentality so as not to make something fatal that is not desired so that we are together in a state of victory.
It was a really hard result for Barcelona fans to accept where after just 10 minutes of play they had to receive a red card and everything went wrong. Barcelona's game lost its balance. This result clearly complicates Hansi Flick to get points in the next match. Monaco this season has shown that they can indeed beat Barcelona 2x in a row, there was a moment when Ter Stegan made a careless pass because Eric Garcia's position was under pressure from opposing players who were forced to chase the ball, there were 2 more reasonable left and right side options but he had passed to Eric Garcia.
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September 19, 2024, 08:20:55 PM
A little disappointed with this defeat which made me lose my chance even though I was quite sure with their current performance they were quite good in the previous match but in the Champions they seemed to lose control and in my opinion what is more important for Flick is to balance their mentality so as not to make something fatal that is not desired so that we are together in a state of victory.
I think it's too early to be pessimistic no? It's just one game after all. Unless you're referring to your betting result. I think this is one of those games where you strongly believe the story will be different if you have a better player, in this case, the keeper. His performance is quite poor and you could argue he's one of the reasons those two goals happened. I think it's worth using a backup keeper for the next few games or so to change the mood around the squad.

I might sound biased, but Arsenal's gameplay looked so terrible without Ødegaard. They lose their attacking shape, passing, and horrible ball circulation. Their control drops drastically. And it makes me realised how important odegaard for them.
To be fair that should be expected. I doubt Man City plays the same without their key players. I remember having a similar discussion in the previous season. It's up to Arteta and his team to find the right formula to win their games. That's what sets apart a great coach from the good ones.
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September 19, 2024, 08:20:42 PM
Barcelona player Eric Garcia wouldn't have been sent off with a red card if he hadn't played with passion. After Eric Garcia went off the field, the Monaco team took advantage of this opportunity and scored a goal for the Monaco team. And when the game was leveled again in the 28th minute, the game continued like this for a long time, but then again in the 71st minute, Monaco player George llenikhena scored a goal.
It was a very simple goal. From in front of the Monaco team's goal post, the ball was thrown directly into the Barcelona team's D box, from where George llenikhena directly entered the goal post through another player.  And the match was won 2-1 by AS Monaco team, but the gamblers lost the most in this match. They were the worst for the Barcelona team.
Marc-André ter Stegen made fatal mistake when he forced the ball to Eric Garcia during Monaco's pressure, losing control of the ball made Garcia commit fatal foul which earned him straight red card in the early match or 10th minutes game play.
I think its huge problem make Barcelona have got first loss in this season and difficult ability qualifying to knock out round because many difficult matches are waiting for in UEFA Champion League from Bayern Munich, Dortmund, Benfica and Atalanta seems not easily for Barcelona securing three points.

Have difference possibility for the match result if Garcia don't get red card during early minutes conceded have moment to make come back but playing 10 players since 10th minutes make it difficult how to face Monaco pressure playing well and success securing the first three points  for their Champion League appearances.
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September 19, 2024, 08:12:23 PM
The reward for the most boring match of the night goes to Atalanta vs Arsenal!  Grin

It was literally the only match with no goal. I never imagined it that way. Just think about it you make a betslip of over 2.5 goals, BTTS etc. and add this match into it as well. It would be devastating...

I was thrilled with Monaco's win. Even though that red card was a big help, I believe they still had a promising squad to go for points home. Hansi Flick's team still didn't lose by a big gap despite playing fully defensive after.
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September 19, 2024, 08:04:40 PM
I called it. I knew it won't be an easy game for Arsenal, they were the favourite but should be lucky to earn even that 1 point. The major credit for that goes to Arsenal's goalkeeper, Raya who made a fantastic double save of Retegui's penalty. Retegui should've done better on that rebound, he seemed to have enough time to take a better aim with that header, but it went right in the middle of the goal, making it possible for Raya to save it.
Apparently it was Atalanta's first ever goalless draw in their Champion's League history. What's a bit strange, it's Arsenal's 3rd away Champion's League game in a row, when they failed to score a goal.
Arsenal does not play impressive football in UCL and they only have strength when they are playing EPL matches. Arsenal should be gald that they had Rayp who prevented the penalty and made two double safe.

Atalanta tried a lot because i never expected such a good performance from them after having a terrible start of this season.
Arsenal seems pretty amazing in defense, but their offense was crap. They didn't even have the intention to win that game against Atalanta. They recorded 5 shots and 2 on target in their first 22 minutes, but then, they only recorded 1 shot in the rest. And you're right about Raya's double save; it was something for them.

I might sound biased, but Arsenal's gameplay looked so terrible without Ødegaard. They lose their attacking shape, passing, and horrible ball circulation. Their control drops drastically. And it makes me realised how important odegaard for them.

Arsenal - Odegaard = awful to watch.
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On the other hand Barcelona surprisingly lost from Monaco with slim scores and since Dani Olmo got the injury Hansi Flick was decide to playing with some of young players but apparently this strategy didn't run well even Eric García have to gets red card and playing with 10 players is not easy for Barcelona because they were having trouble and during the match they were playing under pressure and this is Barcelona first loses under Hansi Flick

Barcelona player Eric Garcia wouldn't have been sent off with a red card if he hadn't played with passion. After Eric Garcia went off the field, the Monaco team took advantage of this opportunity and scored a goal for the Monaco team. And when the game was leveled again in the 28th minute, the game continued like this for a long time, but then again in the 71st minute, Monaco player George llenikhena scored a goal.
It was a very simple goal. From in front of the Monaco team's goal post, the ball was thrown directly into the Barcelona team's D box, from where George llenikhena directly entered the goal post through another player.  And the match was won 2-1 by AS Monaco team, but the gamblers lost the most in this match. They were the worst for the Barcelona team.
In my opinion this is a fatal failure for Barcelona in utilizing the 3 initial points in this event because they had to lose one of their midfielders early in the first half, and after he came out Barcelona really lost and they continued to get attacks until what happened in the end was a score of 2-1 for Monaco, but it must be admitted here Monaco looks very confident by playing with its young players Monaco's game is also very piercing and in my opinion they deserve to win this match and Barcelona destroyed us with a betting loss.

A little disappointed with this defeat which made me lose my chance even though I was quite sure with their current performance they were quite good in the previous match but in the Champions they seemed to lose control and in my opinion what is more important for Flick is to balance their mentality so as not to make something fatal that is not desired so that we are together in a state of victory.
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On the other hand Barcelona surprisingly lost from Monaco with slim scores and since Dani Olmo got the injury Hansi Flick was decide to playing with some of young players but apparently this strategy didn't run well even Eric García have to gets red card and playing with 10 players is not easy for Barcelona because they were having trouble and during the match they were playing under pressure and this is Barcelona first loses under Hansi Flick

Barcelona player Eric Garcia wouldn't have been sent off with a red card if he hadn't played with passion. After Eric Garcia went off the field, the Monaco team took advantage of this opportunity and scored a goal for the Monaco team. And when the game was leveled again in the 28th minute, the game continued like this for a long time, but then again in the 71st minute, Monaco player George llenikhena scored a goal.
It was a very simple goal. From in front of the Monaco team's goal post, the ball was thrown directly into the Barcelona team's D box, from where George llenikhena directly entered the goal post through another player.  And the match was won 2-1 by AS Monaco team, but the gamblers lost the most in this match. They were the worst for the Barcelona team.

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September 19, 2024, 06:48:56 PM
Arsenal does not play impressive football in UCL and they only have strength when they are playing EPL matches. Arsenal should be gald that they had Rayp who prevented the penalty and made two double safe.

Atalanta tried a lot because i never expected such a good performance from them after having a terrible start of this season.

This is the champions league and every club must be respected, many actually underestimated Gasprin and his boys because of the difficulty they have had to their Seria A campaign but I usually say this Atlanta are always something else when it comes to European football after all they are the Europa league champions and that’s a big difference already considering Arsenal hasn’t won anything yet. Today Arsenal was once again lacking creativity in the midfield as the team played just disorganized. This signifies the importance of their captain who many of the fans do not even acknowledge that much by saying he is slow or the likes of that. Now they look lost without him, I have always been saying that the players like Odegaard are just so rare to find in football they do not have that much strength but they dictate the play. Arsenal were just lucky to have gotten a point from this game. Next is the anticipated game against the league champions hopefully they wouldn’t play this disjointed there
I thought I was the only one who noticed how the midfield struggled to keep the ball in the game. When the Arsenal team gets to win the ball they get indecisiveness on what to do with the ball in the second half. And the pressure from Atalanta increased after seeing the weakness in the Arsenals midfield. Now who will agree with me that the creativity of Arsenal's midfield lies in the hands of Odegard and with his absence it has affected the team in a way that in tough situations they lack imagination.
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September 19, 2024, 06:41:43 PM
Arsenal does not play impressive football in UCL and they only have strength when they are playing EPL matches. Arsenal should be gald that they had Rayp who prevented the penalty and made two double safe.

Atalanta tried a lot because i never expected such a good performance from them after having a terrible start of this season.
Getting a draw at Atalanta I don't think is a poor result from Mikel Arteta's men. Atalanta is one of the best performing Italian clubs since the start of the year and also possess quality players that can beat any top European team so avoiding a defeat while playing in Atalanta's home turf I think isn't a bad result. Arsenal's top performer of the night was David Raya who made a double quick save which included one from the penalty spot to help his team secure a win in that game.
Gian Piero Gasperini will be disappointed with his team's failure to get all three points from that game despite being awarded a penalty but I think it's a fair result for both teams
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September 19, 2024, 06:24:43 PM
There are some games we don't need to talk about, like the Bayern Munich game that ended 9-2. I wonder what the visitors was even doing last night in that game, 9 goals was served to the Zagrab team and one would think it's a club friendly game with that amount of goals, now Bayern Munich are flexing their muscles on teams that are below their standard but we won't see such scores against team like PSG, Madrid or even Barcelona e.t.c, well it was the biggest win last night. Tonight we might not be seeing any high scoreline but a more competitive game with much draws.
Although I expected a good win margin but not up to nine goals. In my stake I placed my bet on over 3.5 goals to be scored in the match but Bayern Munich exceeded my expectations and thrashed Dinamo Zagreb nine goals to two…..a scoreline similar to 8:2 trashing of Barcelona in the champions league some years back. Vincent Kompany is doing a good job with the current players in his possession especially Musiala and Oliseh who are in superb form this season.

Bayern Munich acted like the Bayern Munich we knew back then in 2015 when they had Lewandowski as their striker and some other active players, any team they come against have no chance of holding them to a draw at half time but things started changing as players made their move to different clubs. Now we have the little man with a big heart that does the magic for the Barbarians, talking about Musiala, if you give this guy from now till the next 3-4 years I think he'll be at the top 3 of the contestants in the Ballon d'Or and he'll outshine his mates in the world of football, I just hope he continues to be consistent.
Kompany is doing all his best to keep the players in check and also making sure he doesn't find himself on the line of being fired because those in charge only want positive results not like what they had last season that they lost those familiar trophies they're suppose to win, if Kompany have a chance of winning the champions league then it will be a win win for both him as a coach and the board of directors, they might consider extending his contract.
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Arsenal does not play impressive football in UCL and they only have strength when they are playing EPL matches. Arsenal should be gald that they had Rayp who prevented the penalty and made two double safe.

Atalanta tried a lot because i never expected such a good performance from them after having a terrible start of this season.

This is the champions league and every club must be respected, many actually underestimated Gasprin and his boys because of the difficulty they have had to their Seria A campaign but I usually say this Atlanta are always something else when it comes to European football after all they are the Europa league champions and that’s a big difference already considering Arsenal hasn’t won anything yet. Today Arsenal was once again lacking creativity in the midfield as the team played just disorganized. This signifies the importance of their captain who many of the fans do not even acknowledge that much by saying he is slow or the likes of that. Now they look lost without him, I have always been saying that the players like Odegaard are just so rare to find in football they do not have that much strength but they dictate the play. Arsenal were just lucky to have gotten a point from this game. Next is the anticipated game against the league champions hopefully they wouldn’t play this disjointed there
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September 19, 2024, 06:23:01 PM
It's like I am beginning to like this format of the Champions League. It is definitely revealing many things that we haven't known before. Looking at the table now you might predict the country that has the most efficient football clubs. In the top five of this table will are able to see three German Bundesliga clubs, this could mean that those guys have improved very well in that League.

German league has improved since last season and that have really changed their competition in the Bundesliga also. Many teams are coming up and showing great resistance and showing a lot of potential for the league title alongside the teams that have been making it to the top four of the table season after season. Their performance when replicated in the champions league gave birth to what we see from them, I’m really impressed and happy of their progress in the champions league race after match day 1.

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As an English Premier League fan, I have been looking at the Premier League clubs but only Aston Villa is at the top four. Though we have Liverpool who also has gathered to themselves complete three points. Manchester City and Arsenal who are the brightest clubs in the English Premier League now since that they fed to secure 3 points in their first leg. I would like to see how the table will be in the second round or the Champions League.

The champions league is still in its early stage and I won’t want to conclude yet on any team. One game played can give you a fake arrangement on the table until many more matches are played to make it a more clearer view and more accurate results from each team. The toppers now can come down at anytime and those beneath them can take over. It’s a fierce competition, so I expect every team to be at their best.
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Yeah, Arsenal should draw today and I don't think that's bad because there are still some matches left to collect points. I agree with you that maybe Arsenal will save some players for this week's important games so they have to take a safer strategy that's why we see in this match they seem to play more defensively. In the 2nd match Arsenal will play at home against PSG on October 2, well this is another opportunity for them to catch up. we know Arsenal can be relied on because they are playing at home.
Arsenal is seriously lacking in creative options in attack, that is why they are massively depending on just defense. Odegaard missing and they still do not have options as replacement in midfield to create those chances. Arsenal missed Odegaard again against Atalanta, he would have made their midfield much better and improved than it was.

By the way in another match Barcelona were defeated, of course this surprised us a little because previously Barcelona was predicted not to lose and the worst thing that could happen was a draw but this is a fact after the red card in the 10th minute Barcelona game got worse and they only have 4 shots, one of them is a goal. I'm sure many gamblers lost their bets because we know Barcelona is on fire so it doesn't make sense if they lose, luckily I didn't watch this match and didn't place a bet.
The red card situation put Barcelona in a tight spot, they almost got a point from the game, Monaco were just too good.
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