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Quote from: Amphenomenon on July 20, 2024, 04:29:57 PM

Actually Arsenal should not even focus in winning the Champions league now, their main focus should be winning the EPL instead which they have a better chance of doing even Man city who have been dominating the EPL found it hard to get their first Champions League Trophy even with excellent players and a coach like Pep but with time they finally did which I think Arsenal can if they are consistent enough to snatch the EPL champions title from Man City.

Yes, maybe if Arsenal only focused on the Premier League, Arsenal would have the opportunity to win the Premier League trophy because for several seasons they have always failed to become champions in the EPL. Indeed, if you look at the tight competition in the UCL season that has just ended, of course there be many strong clubs like Manchester City in the 2023 season. 2024 who failed to advance to the final. and Arsenal will certainly have the potential to face difficulties when competing in the UCL 2024-2025.

but in my opinion, in this case it depends on Arsenal's performance and also depends on Arteta's technique because of course if a team has good performance it will of course be better to win both (the Premier League and the Champions League). However, if Arsenal focuses on the Premier League, it will certainly make it easier for Arteta's troops to become champions in the EPL.

Yes, of course to be successful it certainly takes time and indeed if Arsenal can succeed in winning the title in the EPL in the coming season it will certainly make Arsenal appear more confident in the 2025-2026 UCL season. But of course we won't know what will happen to Arsenal in the UCL in the coming season, but what is clear is that I see Arsenal will definitely have the potential to perform better than last season.

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Quote from: Coyster on July 21, 2024, 02:01:43 PM

They are going to be unstoppable, only Manchester City is capable of stopping Real Madrid from winning the Champions league again, they already had a great team that challenges for every trophy, the same team that won the CL and the LaLiga last season, yet they have added Mbappe to their team. The Frenchman is one of the best players in the world, now adding him into an already world class team is scary for opposition, and at this time, Real Madrid is favorites for all trophies.

Why you only mention Man City? Do you think other teams to have no chance against Real Madrid?
Inter Milan, Dortmund, Barcelona, PSG, Leverkusen, and Arsenal are also strong teams. These teams are not impossible to beat Real Madrid. Although Real Madrid has Mbappe, it doesn't automatically bring the trophy to Real Madrid. Mbappe may need time to adapt with the new teammates and the tactics applied by Ancelotti. Even if we can't deny that Real Madrid is very superior in UCL, we don't underestimate other teams. I also favor Real Madrid, but I don't think only Man City can compete with Real Madrid.

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If anything, I'm excited to see how the new league phase will play out and whether we would get some big match-ups early in the competition as expected.

There should be big matches in the early of competition. This can show surprising results although it doesn't determine which teams to have higher chance to qualify for the next round. The early matches are also very important, this can show which teams to have a better preparation during the pre season. The teams who have good prepare, they will easily get positive results.

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Lastly when it comes to 4 extra slots, some big European leagues were given extra slots depending on club coefficients etc.. For example a league normally sends 4 teams but the 5th finishing team also gained a chance.

Bologna and Dortmund qualified thanks to that but I'm not sure about the remaining 2 slots. Sad

I know it's complicated but you would get the logic better in time.

Thanks for taking the time to go over some of the new UCL format details on the thread. I got to understand it more than the UCL official guide thar just said "club coefficients" as one of the criteria for those 4 slots. I also agree with the fact that over the course of the competition, myself and other people still missing some details about the new format will get it. If anything, I'm excited to see how the new league phase will play out and whether we would get some big match-ups early in the competition as expected. Muchas gracias.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on July 21, 2024, 12:28:18 PM

They will compete with strong teams from all over the world for the UCL and it is a highly competitive tournament. That's why I think the priority should be the EPL championship, which is a little easier. We already know that they are fighting for the EPL. They have been trying to achieve this for years, but I want to believe that they can achieve it next year. Arteta must be rewarded now. His reward is the EPL championship.

The competition in the champions league isn't any new, rather it's something I believe is known to almost every team at this point such that they are aware of it even before the struggle for the qualifications. It will actually be much easier achieving the championship than the champions League, the competition to be faced at both points are different and aren't the same so Arsenals superiority will be more pronounced and be of advantage to them in the championship than it will be t the champion's league where they are contending top team form other leagues across Europe, teams who won their leagues and those who finished as runner ups.

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Quote from: Amphenomenon on July 20, 2024, 04:29:57 PM

Actually Arsenal should not even focus in winning the Champions league now, their main focus should be winning the EPL instead which they have a better chance of doing even Man city who have been dominating the EPL found it hard to get their first Champions League Trophy even with excellent players and a coach like Pep but with time they finally did which I think Arsenal can if they are consistent enough to snatch the EPL champions title from Man City.

You says is true that because Arsenal has failed to compete with Manchester City for race title in Premier League two season in a row and i am sure next season Arteta will give his priority for that league compared to Champion League trophy but Arteta said he will give his best in this competition and will attempts to bringing Arsenal to performing well for next season and Arteta said win Champion League is very hard target for Arsenal even the managers before him were failed to bringing Arsenal to gets trophies because we all know during their history Arsenal never gets the trophies from this competition

If talking about Arsenal performance in this competition with Arteta actually they have good progress because after always be stuck at round of 16 for 14 years finally Arsenal can able to advances to the quarterfinal last season but unfortunately Arsenal was unable go further more because on quarterfinal they were eliminated by Bayern Munich with narrow aggregate 3-2

For next season we all know Champion League will have new format and mostly the participants of this competition will do more matches compared to last season and about Arsenal performance for next season i personally still stick to my opinion although Arsenal is a big team but i didn't considers them as champion candidate but i think at least they have potention to repeat their last season achievement by advances to the quarterfinal stages again

They're just fun to follow in the context of a developing team. They have really made progress over the last two years, which is clearly tracked by their performances in the EPL, so progress couldn't wait in the Champions League, as a result of which they made it to the 1/4 and performed admirably here. So it will be even more interesting to follow them next season in the Champions League

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Quote from: emrecemsan on July 21, 2024, 01:53:47 PM

My favourite for this season is going to be Real Madrid especially after signing Mbappe. Cool

They are going to be unstoppable, only Manchester City is capable of stopping Real Madrid from winning the Champions league again, they already had a great team that challenges for every trophy, the same team that won the CL and the LaLiga last season, yet they have added Mbappe to their team. The Frenchman is one of the best players in the world, now adding him into an already world class team is scary for opposition, and at this time, Real Madrid is favorites for all trophies.

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The draw for the league phase is expected to take place on August 29, 2024. So there is still quite much time until then.

This season the place where the big final is going to be played is Fußball Arena München.

The league phase is going to be underway by September 17 with the first matches. I'm also wondering how this change will feel like. So many things haven't still changed though but I'm only interested in the league phase. Maybe this would help some different teams become more successful in some way.

My favourite for this season is going to be Real Madrid especially after signing Mbappe. Cool

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I agree with you that is wasn't easy for City to win UCL even with their strong performance. City have only won it once and this happened when they were in their peak form because if you look at it, they have won EPL four consecutive times but within that period they have only won UCL once.

Arsenal is not as strong as City and that is why they should focus more on winning EPL first, if they have won EPL twice maybe that will strengthen and improve their mentality to focus on being champions because they have already tasted winning a title, I think that will motivate them.

You have some points in what you’ve said about Arsenal and Manchester City but that is not entirely the way it would always be. You don’t have to be a champions in your domestic league before you can be champion in the champions league. I know that the champions league is more intense than the premier league and all teams needs to put in their best effort before they can even dream of winning the champions league. But if they can be able to to put in their best effort into just one competition, they can come out victorious. Like focusing just on the champions league without giving much effort to the domestic can make them win the league ahead of others. They just need to use the right players and apply the right technique to make it easier for them to prevail.

@Asiska02 I read everything he said and if you ask me, I don't he meant to say that Arsenal must win the English Premier League title before they can win the UEFA Champions League competition but that Arsenal is not strong enough at the moment to win the UEFA Champions League at the moment so they should rather focus more in the English Premier League which I think is a good idea. Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta has really done well to improve the team but still have more work to do before they can be considered a strong contender for the UEFA Champions League.
I think Arsenal can win the English Premier League title with the current squad if they can be as consistent as they were in the last two seasons but they have to make few signings this summer to improve their chances of winning the league title that's eluded them since 2004

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Arsenal squad dept is not that strong that was why they have been surrendering to Manchester City at the last stages of the season for the past two seasons. You cannot compare Manchester City squad dept and that of Arsenal at present. Manchester City has at least two world-class players in every department but same can't be said about Arsenal. Yes Arsenal has good players but if they want to be operating in the level that Manchester City is currently they have to dive into the transfer market and add more fresh legs that are going to provide more competition to the first team squads they have already.

They shouldn't look for players that are willing to settle for the bench. They should get players that are ready to go into the first team immediately, players that are going to make the coach have headache when it come to selecting the match day squad. They need to have a player that's playing at the level of Declan rice in mid field, and same in defense and get rid of Gabriel Jesus because he is lost in the Arsenal team. Arteta need to have a team that he can rotate and keep getting good results without shivering. Only when this is done that's when Arsenal can compete effectively in all competition next season.

Arteta needed a process to bring Arsenal to this stage, in fact they have done it quite well even though City still dominates the Premier League. It's not easy, even other teams that are competitors in the Premier League have had difficulty beating City and even Arsenal in the last two seasons. Well, currently Arsenal's foundations have been built quite solidly, Arteta is only continuing the ambition of the club and team to bring the London cannon to win the Domestic League trophy. Of course, what Arteta did in the transfer window shows that he wants his team to be much more competitive and able to compete closely with Manchester City. Therefore, it was also reported that Arsenal is eyeing several names to fill the center forward position. That doesn't mean G.Jesus isn't better, but Arsenal doesn't have a pure striker who can really be relied on to be a goal getter in their squad.

Well, Arsenal actually has a pretty good squad. However, breaking City's dominance is not easy. Moreover, Pep Guardiola's team is one of the strongest teams in both the Premier League and Champions League. that's why Arteta and Edu are continuing to work in this summer's transfer window. I hope they bring in worthy newcomers, especially strikers who can be relied on as goal scorers.
For the Champions League, I won't speculate much. after all, the competition is still a long way from starting.

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Quote from: Frankolala on July 21, 2024, 10:14:31 AM

I agree with you that is wasn't easy for City to win UCL even with their strong performance. City have only won it once and this happened when they were in their peak form because if you look at it, they have won EPL four consecutive times but within that period they have only won UCL once.

Arsenal is not as strong as City and that is why they should focus more on winning EPL first, if they have won EPL twice maybe that will strengthen and improve their mentality to focus on being champions because they have already tasted winning a title, I think that will motivate them.

You have some points in what you’ve said about Arsenal and Manchester City but that is not entirely the way it would always be. You don’t have to be a champions in your domestic league before you can be champion in the champions league. I know that the champions league is more intense than the premier league and all teams needs to put in their best effort before they can even dream of winning the champions league. But if they can be able to to put in their best effort into just one competition, they can come out victorious. Like focusing just on the champions league without giving much effort to the domestic can make them win the league ahead of others. They just need to use the right players and apply the right technique to make it easier for them to prevail.

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Actually Arsenal should not even focus in winning the Champions league now, their main focus should be winning the EPL instead which they have a better chance of doing even Man city who have been dominating the EPL found it hard to get their first Champions League Trophy even with excellent players and a coach like Pep but with time they finally did which I think Arsenal can if they are consistent enough to snatch the EPL champions title from Man City.

City's has been on fire, but let's not sleep on Arsenal. Arteta's has some guys acting with passion. Last year, they knocked Bayern out as they went toe-to-toe in the Champions League. Although this new structure will be a grind, Arsenal could find it useful. Whether it's the Premier League or Europe, Arteta won't let them sloppiness. This year are they claiming the Champions League? Possibly not. Still, they might surprise a lot of people and maybe surpass last season. In either case, more high-stress games will help this team only get better

Arsenal did not eliminate Bayern Munich last season, because Arsenal were in fact eliminated in the quarter-finals because Arsenal lost in the second leg against Bayern Munich. In the first leg Arsenal played at home, and Arsenal managed to hold Bayern Munich to a draw with a score of 2-2 but unfortunately, even though Bayern Munich was in a not entirely good situation last season but the reality is that Arsenal still lost 1-0 by Bayern Munich in the second leg.

But indeed, over the past two seasons Arsenal managed to have a good performance because in the Premier League standings Arsenal also managed to become a team competing in the title race. Thus, then maybe Arsenal will also still be able to improve their quality next season, so Arsenal's chance to qualify for the quarter-finals or up to the semifinals still seems to have a chance too next season.

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I think Arsenal doesn't have to make a major overhaul to become champions because they already have a pretty solid squad and a good coach. At most, they only need to sign a few players who are really needed and don't have to make changes on a large scale. Arsenal's real problem is that they still don't have the winning mentality that Man City and Real Madrid currently have, and I think if on several occasions they can reach the final, it will form that necessary mentality on its own.

They need three experienced players to help them realize the club's success and achieve trophies, the players they have are indeed good but lack mentality. There is no need to make major changes because the squad that Arsenal has is already good, they just need to find some experienced players to make their mentality better. Mentality will be formed when they have players who are experienced enough in dealing with pressure.

It will take time for Arsenal to achieve what Man City has achieved and they will get that experience if they are able to maintain consistency in playing. In the Champions League, experience and mentality are very much needed because the competition is much tighter with several representatives from the existing leagues. Arteta must build this squad to be more ready to deal with pressure and they must try to find the right momentum.

Actually Arsenal should not even focus in winning the Champions league now, their main focus should be winning the EPL instead which they have a better chance of doing even Man city who have been dominating the EPL found it hard to get their first Champions League Trophy even with excellent players and a coach like Pep but with time they finally did which I think Arsenal can if they are consistent enough to snatch the EPL champions title from Man City.

I agree with you that is wasn't easy for City to win UCL even with their strong performance. City have only won it once and this happened when they were in their peak form because if you look at it, they have won EPL four consecutive times but within that period they have only won UCL once.

Arsenal is not as strong as City and that is why they should focus more on winning EPL first, if they have won EPL twice maybe that will strengthen and improve their mentality to focus on being champions because they have already tasted winning a title, I think that will motivate them.

They will compete with strong teams from all over the world for the UCL and it is a highly competitive tournament. That's why I think the priority should be the EPL championship, which is a little easier. We already know that they are fighting for the EPL. They have been trying to achieve this for years, but I want to believe that they can achieve it next year. Arteta must be rewarded now. His reward is the EPL championship.

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Reaching the final will take them a lot of sacrifice in order to get there. Arsenal has the needed squad to go as far as they want in the competition. All they need is that mentality as you’ve said. If they lack that, then they cannot go far in any competition they’ll be participating in. They’ve tried a lot of times in the domestic league to triumph, but I guess their mentality always falls when they’re close to winning it, could be that they are so sure they can win it at that point and then retard their performance. The champions league is a more tougher league than the premier league, in order to reach the final stage there, they need to exert more efforts to finish well in all matches.

Even as an arsenal fan I cannot actually beat my chest that arsenal Can win the champions league it’s be an impossible mission for arsenal to achieve Not as if arsenal cannot achieve it, But are they really ready To pay the sacrifice to win the champions league because for you to be able To win the champions league there’s a lot of sacrifices to be paid. Even with arsenal have improved I wonder what is stopping us from winning at least one title they have been mocking us that we have be unable to win anything. Our mentality needs to change, because arsenal have not been able to win anything but everything is a gradual process. Because is not as if arsenal is not doing well, but to win is a problem, I know that Aston villa was our problem last season but we should have gone past Aston villa, because we need serious reformation because I was disappointed with even with Saka performance because last season was a terrible one.

Arsenal will not win the Champions League next season because they have strong clubs in the competition, and Arteta will not be able to challenge them so easily. They are strong in the Premier League, and they need to focus on their problem because they are not getting any opportunities in the Champions League. I am confident that if they join them with any strong club, they will be knocked out in the round of 16. if they join them with any strong club.

Let's see if Arteta will improve his coaching quality next season and help the club achieve their goals, because it's been a long time since Arsenal won a big title, and they haven't had a chance to win a title in the competition the following season. Is it Aston Villa's fault that Arsenal didn't win the Premier League last season? They should have won the league title. because am sure they won't try and lose any point in they get the hope and win Aston Villa. But all is Arteta fault, in need to improve in time of substitution in the pitch he need to get the talent of setting better lineup for hurt match, let see how the competition will be if Arteta can challenge the big club in the UCL next time.

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With the level that Arsenal has attained this past couple of seasons, there is no team that they can't face even the current European champions Real Madrid or Bayern Munich, Looking at the team there has been a better improvement seen in the team than what we saw when Arteta newly took over, And this season, Arsenal may even have a better performance than what they did in just concluded premier league and Champions League seasons.

The Champions League is still dominated by La Liga teams if based on the number of titles won. Arsenal, Manchester City, Liverpool, Chelsea and Manchester United should be able to become successive winners in different seasons if they play well each season, but unfortunately in the last few seasons only Manchester City and Chelsea and Liverpool have been able to win it.

Basically I can expect teams from the Premier League to be able to defend the Champions League title in several seasons, but until now they have always had difficulty winning it. In fact, teams like Liverpool, Manchester City and Chelsea have quality players that allow them to swap places as Champions League winners in different seasons, but this has not happened in the last few seasons. Arsenal will likely go far in the Champions League next season if they can improve their performance, but once again the team lacks mentality.

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I think Arsenal doesn't have to make a major overhaul to become champions because they already have a pretty solid squad and a good coach. At most, they only need to sign a few players who are really needed and don't have to make changes on a large scale. Arsenal's real problem is that they still don't have the winning mentality that Man City and Real Madrid currently have, and I think if on several occasions they can reach the final, it will form that necessary mentality on its own.

They need three experienced players to help them realize the club's success and achieve trophies, the players they have are indeed good but lack mentality. There is no need to make major changes because the squad that Arsenal has is already good, they just need to find some experienced players to make their mentality better. Mentality will be formed when they have players who are experienced enough in dealing with pressure.

It will take time for Arsenal to achieve what Man City has achieved and they will get that experience if they are able to maintain consistency in playing. In the Champions League, experience and mentality are very much needed because the competition is much tighter with several representatives from the existing leagues. Arteta must build this squad to be more ready to deal with pressure and they must try to find the right momentum.

Actually Arsenal should not even focus in winning the Champions league now, their main focus should be winning the EPL instead which they have a better chance of doing even Man city who have been dominating the EPL found it hard to get their first Champions League Trophy even with excellent players and a coach like Pep but with time they finally did which I think Arsenal can if they are consistent enough to snatch the EPL champions title from Man City.

I agree with you that is wasn't easy for City to win UCL even with their strong performance. City have only won it once and this happened when they were in their peak form because if you look at it, they have won EPL four consecutive times but within that period they have only won UCL once.

Arsenal is not as strong as City and that is why they should focus more on winning EPL first, if they have won EPL twice maybe that will strengthen and improve their mentality to focus on being champions because they have already tasted winning a title, I think that will motivate them.

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I don't think it would be prudent for Arsenal to focus on only the premier league and not on the champions league. Arsenal is a big team and a big team fights for all the trophies available in the season. Focusing on one from the beginning of the season might be catastrophic because if they lose out on that one then they're left with nothing. Great importance should be placed on the major competitions which are the league and champions league. They can use the reserve team or second 11 to play competitions like the FA cup or caraboa cup if they're not facing a top opponents, but the champions league and League, should be their priority.

A team as Arsenal needs to choose their priority as soon as the season is starting so they can achieve one trophy this season as they have been going tropyless for some seasons. Other teams that has been having a bad season are getting crown champions in one tournament but arsenal is getting nothing and this is not looking good for the manager as it will put him under more pressure. Trophy help keep a manager career so he can impact the team and work with them to win bigger tournaments. Arsenal need to start winning trophies and if it needs them to focus on just few tournaments, they should do it.

I think it is quite easy to determine what is the main priority, because logically they play in 2 big competitions, namely the English League and the Champions League. I am sure they will make both of them a priority to achieve the achievement they have been pursuing all this time. The English League is a more regular league, there are matches every week, so they have to prepare as well as possible. Meanwhile, in the Champions League, they have time to prepare, although perhaps at the start they will also have a busy schedule, because usually there are only 6 matches in the initial phase, but now they have 8 matches with the change in the Champions League format.

Actually, this is what worries me, in the midst of a busy schedule there will usually be problems, one of which is fatigue experienced by the players, and what is even worse is the storm of injuries that could come to them. So amidst the priorities they set, they also have to be clever in maintaining the health of the players.

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After all, so far under Mikel Arteta's tutelage, Arsenal has focused more on its Domestic League than the Champions League. That doesn't mean they don't want trophies in this competition, but in order to remain consistent on the right track Arsenal chose to focus on their Domestic League competition. Apart from that, the competitors in the Champions League are very diverse with the depth of their respective teams. So, to stay on the right track, that's why Arteta doesn't focus too much on the UCL competition.

I have this feeling that Arsenal as a club have developed this fear against champions league which have made them lose whenever they try to compete for the trophy. Usually, they tend to work hard to get to the qualifiers and to the point of round of 16 then there comes this breeze that blows off their chances to win. If clubs like Dortmund who have taken the trophy in the past will strive their way to take the trophy again thereby getting to the finals, I see no reason why Arsenal cannot get there too. I also don't see this as a Mikel Arteta factor either.

You don't need to blamed Arsenal for that failure, because there are many strong teams on this UEFA champions league tournament that is making every tournament difficult for Arsenal to cross round 16 or to get to final stage, which is what happened to Arsenal in this season.

If you look at the tournament very well, you will believe that Arsenal didn't prepare to lift UEFA champions league trophy because their major target in this season based on the first position they where hodling in the premier league competition, but unfortunately Manchester city took over the position till the end of the tournament that made Arsenal to lose UEFA champions league trophy and premier league trophy too. Dortmund players tried their possible best to got to final stage but they missed plenty opportunity that made their opponent to lift the UEFA champions league trophy, I believe Arsenal coach will not allow such thing to happen next season, if they succeed to sign in those talented players because he will concentrate on UEFA champions league trophy than any other trophy next season.

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I don't like betting on these early games, they are usually teams that will not have any chance to go anywhere neither, probably all of the teams that play here, will either not see the group stage, or just be near the end at the group stages, nothing more.

It means that the yare usually not teams that are this level good, they should be at lower levels, Europa if possible. That is why I honestly do not think that it makes sense to gamble here. Like Fenerbahce, looks like a team that will beat their opponent, and could very well do that, but it's a team that was 2 levels below, at conference, just last year, did alright but failed to win, lost at like quarter finals or something I think.

All in all I think it's easy to see that we are not going to deal with anything profitable for these teams, could be something that will take a while for me to start betting. I will wait for the group stages because at group stages we are talking about teams that are actually good, and even if you are betting on the ones that will probably not win, the difference between the up and the down is bigger, so betting on the better teams is easier. You could still lose, it's just not going to be easy at all.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on July 20, 2024, 05:29:32 PM

The move from group stage to league phase is a big move actually since big teams have a chance to be pitted against each other even from day 1 of the competition. I know we had some match-ups like this in the past format but it should be more frequent with league phase. For the league phase, I understand that teams position in their last domestic league table is used, not sure about the qualification rounds currently going on and there are mention of 4 slots with criteria I'm not too sure of on the uefa article you posted.

Yeah, maybe you are right about that. Not exactly a league but a different variation of it now. We are all going to experience it for the first time so I hope we enjoy this format more.

When it comes to the qualification rounds going on currently, in so many leagues there are qualification slots also given to teams based on domestic league position. They need to get past a couple of rounds successfully to have a chance to play in the league phase.

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Biggest European leagues don't generally have this, they are sending their teams directly. I guess this is why you were surprised to see it.

Lastly when it comes to 4 extra slots, some big European leagues were given extra slots depending on club coefficients etc.. For example a league normally sends 4 teams but the 5th finishing team also gained a chance.

Bologna and Dortmund qualified thanks to that but I'm not sure about the remaining 2 slots. Sad

I know it's complicated but you would get the logic better in time.

https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/028a-1a386150ed4b-322dff667686-1000--2024-25-uefa-champions-league-bologna-and-dortmund-secure-/

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We cannot deny because for now even though Arsenal are a very good club but for Champions League matters it is clear that they are just an ordinary club that does not have any advantage in the championship competition but that does not mean they are bad because they are still in the Champions League zone it proves that they deserve to be there but not to be champions because seeing from their golden era even Arsenal always failed and their best achievements were only finals and runners up.

The Champions League is filled with great and great clubs in all the best competitions in Europe and it is very difficult for clubs like Arsenal who do not have any experience in the finals to compete because in the end even though Arsenal are currently a great club but in fact there are clubs that are even greater than them in terms of mentality, experience and club strength.

After all, so far under Mikel Arteta's tutelage, Arsenal has focused more on its Domestic League than the Champions League. That doesn't mean they don't want trophies in this competition, but in order to remain consistent on the right track Arsenal chose to focus on their Domestic League competition. Apart from that, the competitors in the Champions League are very diverse with the depth of their respective teams. So, to stay on the right track, that's why Arteta doesn't focus too much on the UCL competition. Just imagine, just to compete with Manchester City in the Premier League, Arsenal has to use all their abilities and put in a lot of effort. If their focus is divided, then Arsenal will quickly run out of energy. however, if we look at Arsenal in the last two seasons. Arteta has built a fairly solid foundation on his team. he just needs to bring in some newcomers as the team needs, maybe after that Arsenal can become even more competitive. and it is not impossible, if Arsenal is able to win the Premier League trophy, their next target will be the UCL. although, not a very easy task.

Arteta must focus on every competition they participate in because if Arteta only focuses on the Premier League, they will definitely not be ready for a busy schedule. Apart from that, Arsenal are indeed weakened by their failure in every season because they are at the top of the Premier League standings but in the end they surrendered to Manchester City.
Arteta must think of an effective way to solve this problem where he must be able to share the same power when they play in the Champions League or domestic league because that way they can achieve the targets they want to achieve.
This season of course, Arsenal has big ambitions in the Champions League because the depth of the Arsenal squad is very strong and they only need concentration to make it happen to become champions.

Arsenal squad dept is not that strong that was why they have been surrendering to Manchester City at the last stages of the season for the past two seasons. You cannot compare Manchester City squad dept and that of Arsenal at present. Manchester City has at least two world-class players in every department but same can't be said about Arsenal. Yes Arsenal has good players but if they want to be operating in the level that Manchester City is currently they have to dive into the transfer market and add more fresh legs that are going to provide more competition to the first team squads they have already.

They shouldn't look for players that are willing to settle for the bench. They should get players that are ready to go into the first team immediately, players that are going to make the coach have headache when it come to selecting the match day squad. They need to have a player that's playing at the level of Declan rice in mid field, and same in defense and get rid of Gabriel Jesus because he is lost in the Arsenal team. Arteta need to have a team that he can rotate and keep getting good results without shivering. Only when this is done that's when Arsenal can compete effectively in all competition next season.

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