Topic: UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season - page 343. (Read 57485 times)

You says is true that because Arsenal has failed to compete with Manchester City for race title in Premier League two season in a row and i am sure next season Arteta will give his priority for that league compared to Champion League trophy but Arteta said he will give his best in this competition and will attempts to bringing Arsenal to performing well for next season and Arteta said win Champion League is very hard target for Arsenal even the managers before him were failed to bringing Arsenal to gets trophies because we all know during their history Arsenal never gets the trophies from this competition

If talking about Arsenal performance in this competition with Arteta actually they have good progress because after always be stuck at round of 16 for 14 years finally Arsenal can able to advances to the quarterfinal last season but unfortunately Arsenal was unable go further more because on quarterfinal they were eliminated by Bayern Munich with narrow aggregate 3-2

For next season we all know Champion League will have new format and mostly the participants of this competition will do more matches compared to last season and about Arsenal performance for next season i personally still stick to my opinion although Arsenal is a big team but i didn't considers them as champion candidate but i think at least they have potention to repeat their last season achievement by advances to the quarterfinal stages again

This is also one of the reasons and indeed as you say Arsenal sometimes only want to focus on one of the competitions they participate in so that they can perform optimally. Indeed, this does not mean they are not serious about being in other competitions, but it can be said that their attention is a little less and they don't want to be too pushy if they have to lose or be eliminated later.

They know that for now they cannot be consistent in several competitions at once so instead of making everything scattered it would be better if only 1 competition they focus on and Arteta knows that.

So in this case it actually returns to the initial discussion where Arsenal can only be a troublesome club for opponents but they will still be difficult if forced to compete, let alone fight for trophies because after all it is beyond the control of their strength srt at least for this season.

UCL is the highest level of football competition, it cannot compare with any domestic league. Sure, it is more competitive because only the best teams in each European leagues which can compete in UCL. Every team dreams to win UCL trophy since it will be a proof that they are the best team in the world. However, it is a very difficult matter because it doesn't only need quality team but it is also about the winning mentality. So far, only Real Madrid which can show great mentality in UCL. Th team like Arsenal has a quality squad, but they have no strong mentality. This makes them to be difficult to win the UCL trophy.

Honestly, I don't have an idea to compare current Arsenal squad and the past squads. I think it is not really necessary. However, the current Arsenal squad looks strong enough, they have many quality players. But they seems having no strong strikers, this can be the weakness of Arsenal. They need to have a strong striker who has good experience in UCL. If Arsenal can have it, Arsenal may have a chance to win UCL trophy. But sure, Arteta also needs to improve the mentality of Arsenal players. The quality of squad is nothing if they have no strong mentality.

The move from group stage to league phase is a big move actually since big teams have a chance to be pitted against each other even from day 1 of the competition. I know we had some match-ups like this in the past format but it should be more frequent with league phase. For the league phase, I understand that teams position in their last domestic league table is used, not sure about the qualification rounds currently going on and there are mention of 4 slots with criteria I'm not too sure of on the uefa article you posted.

I will watch some YouTube video later to better understand it. The reason why I find it a bit confusing apart from the explanation about league phase is because we have become accustom to how the UCL works for over a decade now. I'm sure not everyone is well adjusted with the changes yet. I came to the thread only to see some people talking about qualifying stages and I was just outright confused. Afaik, as long as our favorite big teams finished well in their domestic leagues, they should be good to go for league phase seeding.

Arteta must focus on every competition they participate in because if Arteta only focuses on the Premier League, they will definitely not be ready for a busy schedule. Apart from that, Arsenal are indeed weakened by their failure in every season because they are at the top of the Premier League standings but in the end they surrendered to Manchester City. 
Arteta must think of an effective way to solve this problem where he must be able to share the same power when they play in the Champions League or domestic league because that way they can achieve the targets they want to achieve. 
This season of course, Arsenal has big ambitions in the Champions League because the depth of the Arsenal squad is very strong and they only need concentration to make it happen to become champions.

That's what makes Arsenal so troublesome because indeed their focus for now can only be in one competition and Arsenal will find it difficult to do so in several competitions at once.

Arsenal are not a bad club but there are priorities that must be seen because for now Arsenal know that their strength cannot keep up with several other big clubs like Madrid or Manchester City in several competitions at once. Not that they also gave up because they tried as much as they could to perform optimally, it's just that in order to minimize failure so that there is no decline in performance in all competitions, Arsenal always try to try to focus on one of the competitions even though until now they are also still struggling to win but at least we can see the increase in their performance little by little it looks and even in the last 2 seasons being in the runner up is something to be praised in the EPL.

Actually Arsenal should not even focus in winning the Champions league now, their main focus should be winning the EPL instead which they have a better chance of doing even Man city who have been dominating the EPL found it hard to get their first Champions League Trophy even with excellent players and a coach like Pep but with time they finally did which I think Arsenal can if they are consistent enough to snatch the EPL champions title from Man City.

These are good hopes we are having as Arsenal fans, we believed in Arteta because he was the coach that was able to rescue team since the legendary Arsene Wenger left the club for good; Uni Emrey came and tried, Lumberg also tried for a while but Arteta was the one that is able to regain the team’s spirit as well as gain trust from Arsenal fans.

Winning Premier League, FA Cup, Carabau cup, and the Champions League are all part of Arsenal’s ambition for the next season; they will not put too much focus on the EPL even though they are capable of winning the EPL since they the only team that is able to show some challenge to Manchester City in the last two season.
I will also expect Arsenal to go far in the Champions League next season because winning the Champions League is also a top priority for Arsenal.

Even as an arsenal fan I cannot actually beat my chest that arsenal Can win the champions league it’s be an impossible mission for arsenal to achieve Not as if arsenal cannot achieve it, But are they really ready To pay the sacrifice to win the champions league because for you to be able To win the champions league there’s a lot of sacrifices to be paid. Even with arsenal have improved I wonder what is stopping us from winning at least one title they have been mocking us that we have be unable to win anything. Our mentality needs to change, because arsenal have not been able to win anything but everything is a gradual process. Because is not as if arsenal is not doing well, but to win is a problem, I know that Aston villa was our problem last season but we should have gone past Aston villa, because we need serious reformation because I was disappointed with even with Saka performance because last season was a terrible one.

Arsenal's style of play is very unified, they have succeeded in carrying out a style of play that is interesting to watch. Yes, you are right, Arsenal strength is very strong and they only need the mentality to become champions. Moreover, the Champions League is certainly very difficult to become champion because you have to compete with teams from other leagues where they are much stronger and have a winning mentality like Real Madrid.

For this reason, Arsenal needs time to become the strongest in the Champions League and succeed in winning the UCL trophy. Arteta only needs support from the players because the existing players are capable enough to carry prestigious titles. Many people think that Arsenal needs a new striker and maybe Arteta has already thought about it.

Arsenal do not have the squad required for both EPL and UCL. They are competing in both leagues, but they get stuck after a certain point because they don't have enough squad. This shows that Arsenal do not have enough squad. Arsenal are not in a bad situation financially and they can actually add star players to their squad. Arsenal's management is failing every season because they don't have enough squad depth. I think what this team lacks is star players. If the transfer mentality of the management changes then they can achieve success.

Arteta has been an amazing coach indeed and js become a historic part of Arsenal, he has been very instrumental in the transformation of Arsenal since ever their legendary boss Wenger left, Arteta has been the only coach who has gotten a good success with Arsenal after the exit of Wenger. The struggle to win the premier League title for Arsenal keeps intensifying by almost every season, I hope they achieve that in the new season ahead. Currently Bayern Munich may not stand before Arsenal with a good level of confidence but they are sure to show some good performances.

I have this feeling that Arsenal as a club have developed this fear against champions league which have made them lose whenever they try to compete for the trophy. Usually, they tend to work hard to get to the qualifiers and to the point of round of 16 then there comes this breeze that blows off their chances to win. If clubs like Dortmund who have taken the trophy in the past will strive their way to take the trophy again thereby getting to the finals, I see no reason why Arsenal cannot get there too. I also don't see this as a Mikel Arteta factor either.

Exactly, every Arsenal fan expects them to win the Champions League, but it is not an easy task for them to achieve the goals easily. They have many clubs that are better than them for fa now, and they need to work hard before they can challenge them. Arteta needs to buy new players in the team. I didn't mean Arsenal aren't performing well, but they don't have Champions League experience players, and they need to get more talented players in the team that can help them achieve there goals. And I've heard that Arsenal is interested in William Athletic Bilbao, as are Barcelona, and I believe that if Arteta has the opportunity to buy the youngster, he will benefit the team because he is extremely good and talented. Let's see how the next season goes if Arteta can make the supporters proud by winning the Premier League or the Champions League. If he can't help them win any trophies, I'll be delighted if they say they'll fire him and hire a new coach.

Every team definitely needs a process to be able to win something big. Of course, it's not just a process, it also requires a lot of money and hard work to build a quality and competitive team. I admit that in the last few seasons Arsenal have performed well and are ready to challenge any top team, but the problem is that their mentality is still shaky. Arteta needs time and support so that his players' morale does not waver when they are ahead of others, but this is really difficult to resolve.

Arsenal are on track to win prestigious titles including the Champions League, but before that comes, Arsenal must first prove that they are worthy by winning the domestic title. It is important for all players to appear consistent, and Arteta must be able to keep his team stable throughout the season.

Reaching the final will take them a lot of sacrifice in order to get there. Arsenal has the needed squad to go as far as they want in the competition. All they need is that mentality as you’ve said. If they lack that, then they cannot go far in any competition they’ll be participating in. They’ve tried a lot of times in the domestic league to triumph, but I guess their mentality always falls when they’re close to winning it, could be that they are so sure they can win it at that point and then retard their performance. The champions league is a more tougher league than the premier league, in order to reach the final stage there, they need to exert more efforts to finish well in all matches.

Fenerbahce seems to be ready for the Lugano match. I think he will progress comfortably in the Champions League until the groups and now, with the addition of En-Nesyri, the offensive line is very strong.  This could be Tadic's season to become the assist king. In the offensive line, we can expect to see plenty of goal-scoring matches with the names he can score goals with.

After all, so far under Mikel Arteta's tutelage, Arsenal has focused more on its Domestic League than the Champions League. That doesn't mean they don't want trophies in this competition, but in order to remain consistent on the right track Arsenal chose to focus on their Domestic League competition. Apart from that, the competitors in the Champions League are very diverse with the depth of their respective teams. So, to stay on the right track, that's why Arteta doesn't focus too much on the UCL competition. Just imagine, just to compete with Manchester City in the Premier League, Arsenal has to use all their abilities and put in a lot of effort. If their focus is divided, then Arsenal will quickly run out of energy. however, if we look at Arsenal in the last two seasons. Arteta has built a fairly solid foundation on his team. he just needs to bring in some newcomers as the team needs, maybe after that Arsenal can become even more competitive. and it is not impossible, if Arsenal is able to win the Premier League trophy, their next target will be the UCL. although, not a very easy task.

Bodo/Glimt are also an interesting team in fact, you have a point. They have done nice things in the Europa League as far as I can remember. Here in the Champions League qualification, they are a big favourite against RFS.

Maybe I would add their win to my parlay also. It is 1.39 for Bodo/Glimt to win. My parlay would like this in that case:

Bodo/Glimt to win: 1.39
Fenerbahçe to win: 1.81
Sparta Praha to win: 1.47

Total odds: 3.70

I decided to remove Dynamo Kyiv win because of not trusting them as much as the others.