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July 19, 2024, 01:57:39 PM
I think Arsenal doesn't have to make a major overhaul to become champions because they already have a pretty solid squad and a good coach. At most, they only need to sign a few players who are really needed and don't have to make changes on a large scale. Arsenal's real problem is that they still don't have the winning mentality that Man City and Real Madrid currently have, and I think if on several occasions they can reach the final, it will form that necessary mentality on its own.

Arsenal are not missing out on anything not to be a major contender of the champions league just like Manchester City and Real Madrid have been over the years now. Arsenal are a great team and they have all it takes to win any trophy now. Just like you’ve mentioned, they just lack that winning mentality and that is what have caused them to not have win any trophy for themself till date despite the great performance they pull up every season. If they can have that winning mentality and their mind set at making sure that they get what they want by all means, they can win a trophy in the next season. I have so much believe in them but they always disappointed towards the end of the season.
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July 19, 2024, 01:44:39 PM
I also see Arsenal as a team that can still be quite strong next season so that some of their closest rivals last season also still have to be wary of Arsenal as their competitor in the race for the Premier League trophy. Likewise in the Champions League because Arsenal could perform better next season and be able to reach a quite crucial stage so that their rivals will still see Arsenal as an opponent that needs to be eliminated early before heading to the quite crucial stages in the Champions League.

This competition, the Champions League, is very tough, teams who thought they were strong were unable to survive the season and the cup.
Only teams that have an excellent turnover and a well-designed and organized team can manage to make a difference, in my opinion.  Then maybe I'm wrong.
The Champions League will be filled with great teams from the best competition in the European, so that without an improvement in the squad it is impossible for a team to be able to compete to win the Champions League including Arsenal, Arsenal in recent seasons have shown significant improvement in the English league but in the Champions League we have not seen much change in their mentality the previous season,  I am personally very impressed with Arsenal ability last season by being a title contender in the Premier League but for the Champions League it seems that they are still not strong enough to compete even in next season, next season the Champions League will use a new format in their competition and there will be tighter competition due to the addition of participant slots, so for Arsenal to be able to beyond their journey in last season will be impossible to happen in the league champions next season.
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July 19, 2024, 01:24:58 PM
Your assumption about Arsenal is not wrong, so I agree that Arsenal is quite good in terms of squad depth, it's just that they are still less impressive in terms of mentality. Players must be taught to have a winning mentality and not be affected too much by various pressures, but this is not as easy as we think, right?

In time, Arsenal will definitely win the title they have been waiting for. It could be the 2024-2025 season or maybe the 2025-2026 season, it's just that they must always try to improve and improve their mentality. This generation of players is already good enough, they need to get more encouragement and support to get out of the pressure.
Current Arsenal performance in Champion League around several years later depend on lack winning mentality only behind have good domination in domestic league in last two season, have quit well performance in Premier League but Arsenal can't perform well when playing in Champion League and always easily defeating against with top team such as this season eliminated by Bayern Munich. I don't think with Arsenal will perform well for season 2024/25 although they keep dominance with consistent performance in domestic league regarding Mikel Arteta difficult how to improve well with players winning mentality at Champion League.


Still difficult for Arsenal how to lead higher round in Champion League and the only on the big four of Premier League teams not winning yet UEFA Champion League trophy, have been longer time when Arsenal success qualifying to final round but defeating by Barcelona and last ten years ago Arsenal can't reach again until semifinal or final round. How large possibilities for season 2024/25 with Arsenal perform can lead until higher round or winning the UEFA Champion League trophy?
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July 19, 2024, 11:48:49 AM
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I think Arsenal doesn't have to make a major overhaul to become champions because they already have a pretty solid squad and a good coach. At most, they only need to sign a few players who are really needed and don't have to make changes on a large scale. Arsenal's real problem is that they still don't have the winning mentality that Man City and Real Madrid currently have, and I think if on several occasions they can reach the final, it will form that necessary mentality on its own.
Your assumption about Arsenal is not wrong, so I agree that Arsenal is quite good in terms of squad depth, it's just that they are still less impressive in terms of mentality. Players must be taught to have a winning mentality and not be affected too much by various pressures, but this is not as easy as we think, right?

In time, Arsenal will definitely win the title they have been waiting for. It could be the 2024-2025 season or maybe the 2025-2026 season, it's just that they must always try to improve and improve their mentality. This generation of players is already good enough, they need to get more encouragement and support to get out of the pressure.
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July 19, 2024, 11:48:27 AM
I also see Arsenal as a team that can still be quite strong next season so that some of their closest rivals last season also still have to be wary of Arsenal as their competitor in the race for the Premier League trophy. Likewise in the Champions League because Arsenal could perform better next season and be able to reach a quite crucial stage so that their rivals will still see Arsenal as an opponent that needs to be eliminated early before heading to the quite crucial stages in the Champions League.

This competition, the Champions League, is very tough, teams who thought they were strong were unable to survive the season and the cup.
Only teams that have an excellent turnover and a well-designed and organized team can manage to make a difference, in my opinion.  Then maybe I'm wrong.

Basically, Arsenal have a chance to be able to go further in the Champions League, such as qualifying for the knockout phase in the round of 16 or  maybe also to the quarter-finals. But still, even though Arsenal have a chance to be able to reach or qualify for the knockout phase but I personally believe Arsenal will not be able to qualify for the final  match. Because anyway, in my view Arsenal will only maximize the chances they have in the Champion League, but do not have big ambitions to be able to get the Champion League trophy.

Indeed, every team will have the desire to be able to get the Champions League trophy, but because the competition in the Champions League is very difficult then I think Arsenal will also not waste all their energy here.Because after all,their main focus is to beat Manchester City in the race for the Premier League trophy, because in these two seasons Arsenal have been thwarted by Manchester City in the race for the Premier League trophy.
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July 19, 2024, 11:38:13 AM
I think Arsenal doesn't have to make a major overhaul to become champions because they already have a pretty solid squad and a good coach. At most, they only need to sign a few players who are really needed and don't have to make changes on a large scale. Arsenal's real problem is that they still don't have the winning mentality that Man City and Real Madrid currently have, and I think if on several occasions they can reach the final, it will form that necessary mentality on its own.

Arsenal is actually on a balance when it comes to squad. It won’t be bad if they want to add extra players to their squad but even with the current squad, they are very much solid to compete with top clubs. The problem I see with them is their relenting attitude when they’re suppose to put more pressure. They normally start very well with good energy but perhaps, the English media hype is one thing that deceive them thinking they have achieved much and begin to slow down their performance and end up losing important points.
The logic that Arsenal listens to media hype and lose concentration doesn't hold water. How can any club be distracted by media hype when you have not won a title or trophy. If such a thing exists, Manchester city should be the victim and not Arsenal.

The problem with Arsenal and its management is that they do not have proper planning and focus. When they begin to have a target, they will begin to achieve success. So, this season they should just target one trophy and pursue it with all they have. They have a nice squad to do so.
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July 19, 2024, 11:26:01 AM
That's the moment when I realize that some people on this forum are delusional about some clubs and possible performances in the toughest league in the world. Arsenal finished the season with 89 points and a winning streak of 6 games! Is that what you call "mess up"? In my opinion it is remarkable how they played last season once again, but as we all know there is a team in the Premier League that can step up their game any moment when necessary and that is Manchester City. That is what they are doing without mercy. 89 points is a strong result. But it is not enough.
If you don’t want to be sentimental as a fan what happened to Arsenal last season was really embarrassing and everyone expected them to have learned from their mistake in the previous season. Losing a crucial match woefully against Aston Villa was the mistake that Manchester City capitalized on to win the title such mistakes should’ve been avoided especially towards the end of the season. Looking at the situation i will also say they Messed up because the whole outstanding performance all amount to nothing.


I agree with you but it is still a pretty harsh analysis considering where Arsenal is coming from and also considering for how long Manchester City has been performing on that level, constantly scoring more than 90 points per season. Or when a bit less than 90 points is sufficient, they just get the job done and outperform the team that is right behind them.

It is impressive how Manchester City has been gearing up their game towards the end of the season over and over again and that fact alone puts so much pressure on their opponents because they know that they can only win the title if they win like the last 10 games in a row. A single point lost might be game over. That is how City raises pressure repeatedly every season.

Let's see how the next season will go.
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July 19, 2024, 11:05:02 AM
A team as Arsenal needs to choose their priority as soon as the season is starting so they can achieve one trophy this season as they have been going tropyless for some seasons. Other teams that has been having a bad season are getting crown champions in one tournament but arsenal is getting nothing and this is not looking good for the manager as it will put him under more pressure. Trophy help keep a manager career so he can impact the team and work with them to win bigger tournaments. Arsenal need to start winning trophies and if it needs them to focus on just few tournaments, they should do it.
To build a strong character as one of the contenders in the Champions League is not easy and Arsenal need to make a major overhaul if they want to achieve that. The presence of Arteta has indeed changed a lot of things for Arsenal but the changes have not been completely successful. Talking about the Champions League is not as easy as talking about other leagues because here it uses a different system after entering the group stage. Arsenal need to build a much better strength if they want to chase trophies but before going too far they must first win the Premier League title.

In the Champions League everything is different there are many other clubs whose strength is much better than Arsenal but also have difficulty winning the title. Arsenal who do not have the mentality and experience will be much more difficult and maybe this is what Arteta must fix so that they can be stronger when playing in the Champions League next season.

I think Arsenal doesn't have to make a major overhaul to become champions because they already have a pretty solid squad and a good coach. At most, they only need to sign a few players who are really needed and don't have to make changes on a large scale. Arsenal's real problem is that they still don't have the winning mentality that Man City and Real Madrid currently have, and I think if on several occasions they can reach the final, it will form that necessary mentality on its own.
Arsenal had a low winning mentality and that is also affecting them in their domestic league. If only they can improve their mentality maybe we will see them going farther in UCL. I don't know why the coaches don't always think reaching the finals or semifinals because they get eliminated easily from the competition.

Let's see if this will change next season because I believe that Arteta should have a vision and work towards achieving that goal by staying focus and should not get distracted easily.
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July 19, 2024, 10:49:05 AM
I also see Arsenal as a team that can still be quite strong next season so that some of their closest rivals last season also still have to be wary of Arsenal as their competitor in the race for the Premier League trophy. Likewise in the Champions League because Arsenal could perform better next season and be able to reach a quite crucial stage so that their rivals will still see Arsenal as an opponent that needs to be eliminated early before heading to the quite crucial stages in the Champions League.

This competition, the Champions League, is very tough, teams who thought they were strong were unable to survive the season and the cup.
Only teams that have an excellent turnover and a well-designed and organized team can manage to make a difference, in my opinion.  Then maybe I'm wrong.
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Arsenal is actually on a balance when it comes to squad. It won’t be bad if they want to add extra players to their squad but even with the current squad, they are very much solid to compete with top clubs. The problem I see with them is their relenting attitude when they’re suppose to put more pressure. They normally start very well with good energy but perhaps, the English media hype is one thing that deceive them thinking they have achieved much and begin to slow down their performance and end up losing important points.
They must understand all the consequences even though it doesn't matter if they are passive enough and don't bring any new players they do in the transfer this season but they also can't protest when their performance remains the same without any changes later.

Arsenal have always played very well in the last 2 seasons because after all we must be aware that their performance tends to increase, but when they don't change their scheme and don't cover the gaps they have I think everything will eventually remain the same where Arsenal's performance will be stuck even though it is still fairly good but there will be no improvement that they have from season to season.

There are still some players who can be considered less contributing especially for their striker problems where Gabriel Jesus and Kai Havertz are still bad if you say one season's performance and that's what they got last season so in this case it would be quite logical if Arsenal were looking for an alternative in several sectors with the aim of lining up some of the vacancies that occurred last season.
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July 19, 2024, 10:41:27 AM
Currently, Manchester City and Real Madrid are the two teams that are the favorites for people to win the UEFA Champions League next season if you are talking about teams that are qualified in terms of performances and squad in the team. Arsenal should focus on taking the Premier League from Manchester City because it is what fighting for. It will be a shame that at the end of all season, they still can't win the Premier League every time they get close. The only reason Manchester City will not put much interest in the EPL next season compared to how they will be looking at the UCL title is that they need more of the UCL cup and feel they can easily win the EPL.
In the last few seasons, Real Madrid and Man City always becomes the favorite candidates to win the UCL trophy. I think it is normal because Real Madrid has a great history in UCL, meanwhile Man City has a strong squad. Both teams also have best coaches and very experienced in UCL competitions. Man City and Real Madrid are also quite consistent to dominate the domestic league. It indicates that Man City and Real Madrid could keep their squad quality. This condition is quite different with other teams. Some top teams are experiencing bad financial condition, they can't keep the good shape of their squads. Other teams changes their coaches, so the team needs adaptation with the new strategies/tactics applied by the new coaches.

By the way, I think the team like Arsenal, Man City, Real Madrid, and other big teams, they won't focus on the domestic league only (local competitions). They must try hard to win the prestigious trophies like UCL and UEL. They will get big advantages if they win the trophies. So, I don't think they will focus on domestic leagues and ignore the chance to win the UCL/UEL trophy.


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July 19, 2024, 10:32:21 AM
I think Arsenal doesn't have to make a major overhaul to become champions because they already have a pretty solid squad and a good coach. At most, they only need to sign a few players who are really needed and don't have to make changes on a large scale. Arsenal's real problem is that they still don't have the winning mentality that Man City and Real Madrid currently have, and I think if on several occasions they can reach the final, it will form that necessary mentality on its own.

Arsenal is actually on a balance when it comes to squad. It won’t be bad if they want to add extra players to their squad but even with the current squad, they are very much solid to compete with top clubs. The problem I see with them is their relenting attitude when they’re suppose to put more pressure. They normally start very well with good energy but perhaps, the English media hype is one thing that deceive them thinking they have achieved much and begin to slow down their performance and end up losing important points.
Talking about Arsenal's balance as a team and if there's any need to overhaul the team, I personally do not think they need to overhaul the team because the club manager Mikel Arteta have been building the team for over four years now. The young Spanish manager have been able to significantly improve the Arsenal team than we've ever seen them since the club's legendary former manager Arsene Wenger left the club so I think they only need to make few significant additions to further strengthen the team and make them more formidable than they were last season. Gabriel Jesus used to the club's first choice striker but last season, he struggled to perform well after suffering injuries which made Kai Havertz overtake every other striker in the team to lead the attack. So if there's any position Arsenal really needs to strengthen, I think it's the top 9 strikers position.
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July 19, 2024, 10:21:21 AM
If all predictions were accurate then there will not be any need to watch the games, and that is what makes sports interesting, however casinos are experts at calculating those odds as that is the most important part of their business, so chances are that one of the teams at the top will get the championship, however at this time the overwhelming favorite seems to be Real Madrid, and if its players can remain healthy, it is going to be a real challenge for other teams to beat them.
There is no prediction that has a perfect level of accuracy, football is a game played by two teams with the aim of beating each other, so predictions are only a sweetener to make bettors feel interested in placing bets. In football there are always surprises that make predictions makers feel stupid, the unseeded team can beat the favorite team and this happens very often in matches.
Currently only Real Madrid is one of the strongest teams in the UCL, prediction makers will always place Real Madrid as the most favored team in every match. However, Real Madrid cannot always win every match, there are times when they also lose and bettors must be able to calculate the odds based on the condition of the team and the opponents they will face.

Football is the most difficult sport to predict in my opinion. The reason is that every season they have different squads and strengths, they also change coaches which makes their game different and there are many more. The strategies derived will be different based on the opponent they will face, not to mention the problems that can occur in the game, including red cards and injuries to their mainstay players.

We can only base this on their previous performance and also what kind of squad depth they have. This is one of the factors why we can draw a conclusion about which club has the highest chance. In relation to Real Madrid, we can see the squad they have now. They have many potential young players who succeeded in bringing Real Madrid to become champions previously, plus the signing of new players who have also become the most talked about players recently makes them considered even stronger.
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July 19, 2024, 10:18:31 AM
I think Arsenal doesn't have to make a major overhaul to become champions because they already have a pretty solid squad and a good coach. At most, they only need to sign a few players who are really needed and don't have to make changes on a large scale. Arsenal's real problem is that they still don't have the winning mentality that Man City and Real Madrid currently have, and I think if on several occasions they can reach the final, it will form that necessary mentality on its own.

Arsenal is actually on a balance when it comes to squad. It won’t be bad if they want to add extra players to their squad but even with the current squad, they are very much solid to compete with top clubs. The problem I see with them is their relenting attitude when they’re suppose to put more pressure. They normally start very well with good energy but perhaps, the English media hype is one thing that deceive them thinking they have achieved much and begin to slow down their performance and end up losing important points.
Last season Arsenal were able to impress in the English league but in the Champions League they couldn't do much after being destroyed by Bayern Munich in the quarter-finals, to maintain or increase their potential to go far in the Champions League next season seems difficult to happen, because every strong team and even Madrid who won the Champions League last season are now starting to improve the team by bringing in new players, so there is no reason for Arsenal not to overhaul or improve the quality of their squad if they want to compete in champions league next season, although the current Arsenal squad looks balanced but you can see that the depth of the squad, especially their reserve squad is not qualified and it is very difficult for Arteta to maintain his team performance if later rotates when players are injured or absent in important matches, So it should be that Arsenal in addition to needing to improve their current squad mentality, of course Arsenal needs to bring in several new players to increase the depth of the squad they have.
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July 19, 2024, 09:57:33 AM
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I think Arsenal doesn't have to make a major overhaul to become champions because they already have a pretty solid squad and a good coach. At most, they only need to sign a few players who are really needed and don't have to make changes on a large scale. Arsenal's real problem is that they still don't have the winning mentality that Man City and Real Madrid currently have, and I think if on several occasions they can reach the final, it will form that necessary mentality on its own.
Arsenal has the talent. They got the guys. But they're choking when it counts. It is about execution, not only about "mentality". They start hot; the media runs crazy; then... pffft. They wander off from their concentration. You have to remain ravenous all through season. Every game serves as the championship. Indeed, reaching the finals develops character; yet, winning those championships creates legends. Arteta, I find the man appealing, but he has to get this past their minds. There are no more justification now. "We'll get 'em next time is no more relevant." It is about winning right now.

Although the English press loves to sensationalize events, Arteta's role is to keep his men grounded. Not the headlines; concentrate on the game. Yes, they can beat the best, but consistency is really vital. From the first kick till the last whistle, they need that deadly instinct. Being a contender vs a champion differs in that regard.
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July 19, 2024, 08:20:00 AM
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If all predictions were accurate then there will not be any need to watch the games, and that is what makes sports interesting, however casinos are experts at calculating those odds as that is the most important part of their business, so chances are that one of the teams at the top will get the championship, however at this time the overwhelming favorite seems to be Real Madrid, and if its players can remain healthy, it is going to be a real challenge for other teams to beat them.
There is no prediction that has a perfect level of accuracy, football is a game played by two teams with the aim of beating each other, so predictions are only a sweetener to make bettors feel interested in placing bets. In football there are always surprises that make predictions makers feel stupid, the unseeded team can beat the favorite team and this happens very often in matches.
Currently only Real Madrid is one of the strongest teams in the UCL, prediction makers will always place Real Madrid as the most favored team in every match. However, Real Madrid cannot always win every match, there are times when they also lose and bettors must be able to calculate the odds based on the condition of the team and the opponents they will face.
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July 19, 2024, 05:00:38 AM
I think Arsenal doesn't have to make a major overhaul to become champions because they already have a pretty solid squad and a good coach. At most, they only need to sign a few players who are really needed and don't have to make changes on a large scale. Arsenal's real problem is that they still don't have the winning mentality that Man City and Real Madrid currently have, and I think if on several occasions they can reach the final, it will form that necessary mentality on its own.

Arsenal is actually on a balance when it comes to squad. It won’t be bad if they want to add extra players to their squad but even with the current squad, they are very much solid to compete with top clubs. The problem I see with them is their relenting attitude when they’re suppose to put more pressure. They normally start very well with good energy but perhaps, the English media hype is one thing that deceive them thinking they have achieved much and begin to slow down their performance and end up losing important points.

You are right, the English media hype is among the things that affect Arsenal, arsenal always starts a season with a good performance but at the end of the season, they will start misbehaving and start performing like a team that doesn’t know how to play ball, the arsenal is among the best teams that have a good squad but still they can’t win a trophy, even a single trophy they can’t win, arsenal don’t know how to win a game and that is one of the best things their coach needs to teach them, arsenal coach needs to learn from Real Madrid on to play a defensive game to win a game, Arsenal don’t need to sign many players this season because they have young and talented players already.


The only thing Arsenal can do is to get another left-win player who can compete with Saka because Arsenal depends on Saka too much and that is why sometimes the player used to play the way he likes, saka needs to have another player who will make Saka feel like he’s not the best player in the squad and sometimes when he is not playing well they will keep him on the bench, arsenal are still playing this season in champion league and many people will be expecting much from arsenal but for me I don’t trust arsenal anymore, the arsenal is not a team that fight to win a trophy.
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July 19, 2024, 03:36:04 AM
I think Arsenal doesn't have to make a major overhaul to become champions because they already have a pretty solid squad and a good coach. At most, they only need to sign a few players who are really needed and don't have to make changes on a large scale. Arsenal's real problem is that they still don't have the winning mentality that Man City and Real Madrid currently have, and I think if on several occasions they can reach the final, it will form that necessary mentality on its own.

Arsenal is actually on a balance when it comes to squad. It won’t be bad if they want to add extra players to their squad but even with the current squad, they are very much solid to compete with top clubs. The problem I see with them is their relenting attitude when they’re suppose to put more pressure. They normally start very well with good energy but perhaps, the English media hype is one thing that deceive them thinking they have achieved much and begin to slow down their performance and end up losing important points.
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July 19, 2024, 03:02:04 AM
I don't think any team is afraid or worried about Arsenal's presence and in fact other strong teams are wary of teams full of history who have always been regular champions of the league. Maybe Arsenal is very scary for any team in the same group but after that they are nothing more than a team that can be knocked out easily.
This is funny but you said the fact, Arsenal are still lacking in experience to challenge stronger teams and most teams frequently play in the Champions League have more threat than Arsenal but in a few years they would also get to that level if they are able to maintain their performance and qualify for the champions league every year.

Since the era of Arsene Wenger to Mikel Arteta, it has taken countless times for them to reach that level and in the end they still couldn't do anything. Perhaps the highest achievement that Arsenal can be proud of was in 2006 when they made it to the final round of the Champions League but unfortunately at that time they had to face an overpowered Barcelona team which we know any team would lose if they faced it.

Maybe Arsenal's realistic target is to continue to qualify for the Champions League every season and at least they won't embarrass their fans. I think that's enough because even in the domestic league they have to face challenges that are almost as tough and even now they haven't been able to feel the title they lost a long time ago. So Arsenal has a lot of work to do.
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A team as Arsenal needs to choose their priority as soon as the season is starting so they can achieve one trophy this season as they have been going tropyless for some seasons. Other teams that has been having a bad season are getting crown champions in one tournament but arsenal is getting nothing and this is not looking good for the manager as it will put him under more pressure. Trophy help keep a manager career so he can impact the team and work with them to win bigger tournaments. Arsenal need to start winning trophies and if it needs them to focus on just few tournaments, they should do it.
To build a strong character as one of the contenders in the Champions League is not easy and Arsenal need to make a major overhaul if they want to achieve that. The presence of Arteta has indeed changed a lot of things for Arsenal but the changes have not been completely successful. Talking about the Champions League is not as easy as talking about other leagues because here it uses a different system after entering the group stage. Arsenal need to build a much better strength if they want to chase trophies but before going too far they must first win the Premier League title.

In the Champions League everything is different there are many other clubs whose strength is much better than Arsenal but also have difficulty winning the title. Arsenal who do not have the mentality and experience will be much more difficult and maybe this is what Arteta must fix so that they can be stronger when playing in the Champions League next season.

I think Arsenal doesn't have to make a major overhaul to become champions because they already have a pretty solid squad and a good coach. At most, they only need to sign a few players who are really needed and don't have to make changes on a large scale. Arsenal's real problem is that they still don't have the winning mentality that Man City and Real Madrid currently have, and I think if on several occasions they can reach the final, it will form that necessary mentality on its own.
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