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Quote from: CroverNo01 on July 19, 2024, 07:17:02 PM

Next season will be hugely surround with prizes,we have a lot going through our minds. The stronger club win the UCL trophy with ease, and I'm counting on my favorite club to proclaimed the status club with ease. The new UEFA Champions League format seems interesting but it's definitely going to e unwelcome in the current season, atleast most people are yet to acknowledge this format and put it into use.

Believe me, there are not a few strong clubs in the Champions League because those who participate here are selected clubs from other leagues who have strong performance so it is not easy for any club to face each other even if it is Real Madrid because we cannot predict what will happen next season .
At first I didn't understand why the Champions League changed their format, but after I thought about it, it seemed like this was done so that the competition would become fiercer and there would be more matches like the domestic league, even though I actually don't know how the matches will go.

Quote from: X-ray on July 19, 2024, 06:30:59 PM

The failed in the UCL last season, and it's proven they were not deserving to go further in UCL. But Arsenal almost beat Munich. I would not say Arsenal played badly in that game. They must be coming back stronger than last season. Last season, they failed against Bayern Munich, but i hope they will able to beat any big teams in UCL.
All in all, strengthening their mentality is the biggest improvement to be done by arsenal.

What makes you say Arsenal doesn't deserve to go further in the UCL? every club deserves the best, not just the clubs that always dominate. Arsenal are the top clubs in the Premier League, their performance can be said to be almost on par with Manchester City. If Man City can beat Bayern Munich and Real Madrid, then Arsenal can too. This depends on strength they face clubs from other leagues.

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Quote from: Jegileman on July 19, 2024, 01:57:39 PM

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Arsenal are not missing out on anything not to be a major contender of the champions league just like Manchester City and Real Madrid have been over the years now. Arsenal are a great team and they have all it takes to win any trophy now. Just like you’ve mentioned, they just lack that winning mentality and that is what have caused them to not have win any trophy for themself till date despite the great performance they pull up every season. If they can have that winning mentality and their mind set at making sure that they get what they want by all means, they can win a trophy in the next season. I have so much believe in them but they always disappointed towards the end of the season.

I admit that Arsenal is one of the great teams in the EPL, but when they set foot in the Champions League, Arsenal always failed to maintain their best performance, especially when facing other strong teams, they always had difficulty winning. Arsenal is a regular team in the Champions League almost every season, but their progress always stops halfway due to being unable to compete with other strong teams.

The mentality of the players has been the main obstacle for Arsenal, which has always reaped failures so far, this situation needs to be corrected to increase the enthusiasm of the players so they have a winning mentality. In my opinion, if Arsenal wants to start winning the Champions League, they must first focus on winning the EPL, the enthusiasm that the players have after successfully winning the EPL trophy can be continued to win the Champions League trophy. So far, I have never ranked Arsenal as one of the favorite teams to win the UCL trophy because the players don't have a winning mentality.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on July 19, 2024, 04:54:53 PM

It would take a while for me to understand how this new UCL format will play out especially the league phase. I have become very familiar with the old format so much that this new changes seem very strange. What qualification rounds are being played right now? Because I thought all teams for 4 pots have been seeded already. With all these changes, are you all still big on Madrid winning the UCL? I strongly doubt so because the new changes will make it a lot tougher even for the strongest teams in the competition.

Next season will be hugely surround with prizes,we have a lot going through our minds. The stronger club win the UCL trophy with ease, and I'm counting on my favorite club to proclaimed the status club with ease. The new UEFA Champions League format seems interesting but it's definitely going to e unwelcome in the current season, atleast most people are yet to acknowledge this format and put it into use.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on July 19, 2024, 03:15:11 PM

We are moving on from where we left in the Champions League qualification round... Next games are starting in 4 days.

I think Dynamo Kyiv, Fenerbahçe, Sparta Praha all will advance to next round. Only these three teams' matchups are attracting my attention for now honestly. But I hope we see some good action in the other ones too.

The odds are still not determined yet as far as I can see. If I get some good total odds from these choices I'm thinking of making a parlay with them. But betting on all of their win at the same time might be more risky so I'll think about it. Sad

Interesting match ups, I think bodo are also one team who might advance to the next round well atleast they are very active when it comes to their league performance but I can't say the same though since it's an open competition and the teams are not from the same league as they are all striving to qualify but if am to place a bet on Tuesday then I would certainly include bodo in my betslip if not for them to win then it would be to score over 2.5 goals.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on July 17, 2024, 09:53:37 PM

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As I already said, the next season will be decisive - if Arsenal does not take the title, then progress will be replaced by regression.

Arsenal must be able to win the title next season. They already have a solid squad and they have been runners-up twice in the EPL. I'm not saying Arsenal should be EPL champions because that's quite difficult. But at least Arsenal can get one trophy this season. The Arsenal squad is currently in their best performance. I think if they fail to get the trophy again this will affect the players' confidence.

Arsenal must at least deliver the same performance like last season. Arsenal performing quite well last season, but due to the small mistakes, and it cost them trophy. I was very disappointed how Arsenal lost the important games twice in a row last seasons. But, it must be a very important lesson for them.
I must admit, Arteta has been transforming this club well. But, as you can see, their mentality was the main issue.

Arsenal have failed to get the trophy two times. It was because Manchester City backstabbed Arsenal at the end of the season. I think player confidence will stay the same. But, failing three times in a row will frustrate them. It's possible for Kroenke, Arsenal's owner, to sack Arteta from the club.

Quote from: Hanadawa on July 17, 2024, 09:53:37 PM

The previous season, Arsenal managed to advance to the quarter-finals before finally being defeated by Munich. I think it's already a good result but they deserve to go further in the UCL.

The failed in the UCL last season, and it's proven they were not deserving to go further in UCL. But Arsenal almost beat Munich. I would not say Arsenal played badly in that game. They must be coming back stronger than last season. Last season, they failed against Bayern Munich, but i hope they will able to beat any big teams in UCL.
All in all, strengthening their mentality is the biggest improvement to be done by arsenal.

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Quote from: KingsDen on July 19, 2024, 05:31:41 PM

Quote from: nelson4lov on July 19, 2024, 04:54:53 PM

It would take a while for me to understand how this new UCL format will play out especially the league phase. I have become very familiar with the old format so much that this new changes seem very strange. What qualification rounds are being played right now? Because I thought all teams for 4 pots have been seeded already. With all these changes, are you all still big on Madrid winning the UCL? I strongly doubt so because the new changes will make it a lot tougher even for the strongest teams in the competition.

Oops!
I have already forgotten about the UCL new format. Oh! No I will have to use the internet to remember how this was proposed to be played. I think like a league. However it might be, I believe this will not remove the vibe in the champions league. The joy will be massive as there are a whole lots of young talents to watch;
N. Williams
Yamal aka School boy
Mbappe
Musiala
Vini
Etc

Great point. But aside from the talents we'd get to see, I think there's more. The UCL explainer I saw said something about top teams might get matched up together right from day 1 of the tournament from any of the 4 seeded pots. If there's a league phase already planned out, I only just learn about these qualification rounds that everyone is currently talking about on the thread. Really looking forward to see how this UCL will be if it would be better than the ones I have come to love.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on July 19, 2024, 04:54:53 PM

It would take a while for me to understand how this new UCL format will play out especially the league phase. I have become very familiar with the old format so much that this new changes seem very strange. What qualification rounds are being played right now? Because I thought all teams for 4 pots have been seeded already. With all these changes, are you all still big on Madrid winning the UCL? I strongly doubt so because the new changes will make it a lot tougher even for the strongest teams in the competition.

Oops!
I have already forgotten about the UCL new format. Oh! No I will have to use the internet to remember how this was proposed to be played. I think like a league. However it might be, I believe this will not remove the vibe in the champions league. The joy will be massive as there are a whole lots of young talents to watch;
N. Williams
Yamal aka School boy
Mbappe
Musiala
Vini
Etc

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It would take a while for me to understand how this new UCL format will play out especially the league phase. I have become very familiar with the old format so much that this new changes seem very strange. What qualification rounds are being played right now? Because I thought all teams for 4 pots have been seeded already. With all these changes, are you all still big on Madrid winning the UCL? I strongly doubt so because the new changes will make it a lot tougher even for the strongest teams in the competition.

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Quote from: Palakka on July 19, 2024, 01:44:39 PM

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This competition, the Champions League, is very tough, teams who thought they were strong were unable to survive the season and the cup.
Only teams that have an excellent turnover and a well-designed and organized team can manage to make a difference, in my opinion. Then maybe I'm wrong.

The Champions League will be filled with great teams from the best competition in the European, so that without an improvement in the squad it is impossible for a team to be able to compete to win the Champions League including Arsenal, Arsenal in recent seasons have shown significant improvement in the English league but in the Champions League we have not seen much change in their mentality the previous season, I am personally very impressed with Arsenal ability last season by being a title contender in the Premier League but for the Champions League it seems that they are still not strong enough to compete even in next season, next season the Champions League will use a new format in their competition and there will be tighter competition due to the addition of participant slots, so for Arsenal to be able to beyond their journey in last season will be impossible to happen in the league champions next season.

With the implementation of the new format, the overall competition has become tougher due to the increase in contestants, however, Arsenal still has the opportunity to go further, like other favorite clubs. Last season, Arsenal stopped in the quarter finals and had to admit the greatness of Bayern Munchen, who knows, next season Arsenal could reach the semifinals or even become one of the Champions League finalists. Arteta has all the attributes needed to make it happen, and it must be admitted that the journey to becoming champion is very steep.

If Arsenal is able to maintain its stable performance, it is very likely that they can become one of the champions in the future. Of course Arsenal must conquer the Premier League first, as valuable capital to become the best in the Champions League. For now, Madrid, Man City and Bayern Munchen will still be many people favorite choices, and Arsenal will certainly find it very difficult to compete with these three clubs. We'll see how Arteta manages his team next season, I think Arsenal could be one of the dark horses.

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Quote from: punk.zink on July 18, 2024, 11:50:48 PM

I think Arsenal doesn't have to make a major overhaul to become champions because they already have a pretty solid squad and a good coach. At most, they only need to sign a few players who are really needed and don't have to make changes on a large scale. Arsenal's real problem is that they still don't have the winning mentality that Man City and Real Madrid currently have, and I think if on several occasions they can reach the final, it will form that necessary mentality on its own.

We Arsenal actually need to sign more players to become Champions because lack of good and reliable striker affected our performance last season which caused us the League and any other trophies we played.

You can also see how lack of experience affected us in the quarter finals against Bayern Munich and lack of a good finisher to convert some chances for the team; although the players tried very well throughout the last two seasons but going trophyless is not proper for Arsenal again next season which is some players need to be signed to make the team more stronger.

A striker, a support for Bulayo Saka, and a replacement to Odegard as the case maybe so that the team will be completely relied on by the fans and injuries will not affect our performance.

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Arsenal are not missing out on anything not to be a major contender of the champions league just like Manchester City and Real Madrid have been over the years now. Arsenal are a great team and they have all it takes to win any trophy now. Just like you’ve mentioned, they just lack that winning mentality and that is what have caused them to not have win any trophy for themself till date despite the great performance they pull up every season. If they can have that winning mentality and their mind set at making sure that they get what they want by all means, they can win a trophy in the next season. I have so much believe in them but they always disappointed towards the end of the season.

I think this is the only fact I have seen about Arsenal so far. They are really good and the squad is very strong, but I think the luck to win is not always by their side, and also, at the end of any season, they get slack; they don’t perform as they start the season; if not, Arsenal always starts all the seasons with great performances that no team can come near them that will give them any pressure by any side, but they always get problems when the season comes to an end. If not, if we are to talk about squads, the Arsenal squad is full and can win any trophies, but luck is not by their side, so I think they need to work harder to get things done for themselves because I believe they can do it.

This fact cannot be denied, it must be admitted that Arsenal in recent years has had a good and strong squad, but their only weakness lies in not having a strong mentality when facing a lot of pressure. In the domestic league, for example, Arsenal has almost won the EPL twice because they started the season well, but when the season started to end, the mentality of the Arsenal players started to waver. A similar thing also happened in the UCL league last season, even though last season Bayern Munich was not as strong as before because last season Bayern Munich went through a bad season but they were unable to beat Bayern Munich. This is all because they lost mentally to Bayern Munich even though at that time Arsenal's game was better than Bayern Munich's game.

Luck is indeed one of the factors, but luck also happens because you have a high mentality and fighting spirit. So Arteta should prioritize this problem as the main problem that must be overcome, namely the mentality of players and players not giving up easily. because Arsenal's strategy and game have been quite good in the last two years.

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Quote from: Jegileman on July 19, 2024, 01:57:39 PM

Quote from: punk.zink on July 18, 2024, 11:50:48 PM

I think Arsenal doesn't have to make a major overhaul to become champions because they already have a pretty solid squad and a good coach. At most, they only need to sign a few players who are really needed and don't have to make changes on a large scale. Arsenal's real problem is that they still don't have the winning mentality that Man City and Real Madrid currently have, and I think if on several occasions they can reach the final, it will form that necessary mentality on its own.

Arsenal are not missing out on anything not to be a major contender of the champions league just like Manchester City and Real Madrid have been over the years now. Arsenal are a great team and they have all it takes to win any trophy now. Just like you’ve mentioned, they just lack that winning mentality and that is what have caused them to not have win any trophy for themself till date despite the great performance they pull up every season. If they can have that winning mentality and their mind set at making sure that they get what they want by all means, they can win a trophy in the next season. I have so much believe in them but they always disappointed towards the end of the season.

What do you mean always? How did they disappoint last season when they struggled all the way up the league? And it wasn't just Arsenal who made mistakes, but Liverpool and also Manchester City, who went on to win the league. During the season it is very difficult not to make any mistakes, especially when you have to play not only in your league, but also in the Champions League, which has a completely different style of play and mentality, including the domestic cup, it's not easy. I was surprised that they lost to Bayern with such a minimal score, because the tension during the season for Arsenal was such that they could have easily conceded more in this match, but no, they stood up honourably

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the next cup will definitely be strange with the change they made in the group stage with the two big groups.

probably in this way there will also be fewer twists and turns as with a bigger number of games the variance decreases and the strongest teams should score more points, which is why in national championships the strongest almost always wins.

with the new cup the level of the Europa League drops considerably.

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Quote from: punk.zink on July 18, 2024, 11:50:48 PM

I think Arsenal doesn't have to make a major overhaul to become champions because they already have a pretty solid squad and a good coach. At most, they only need to sign a few players who are really needed and don't have to make changes on a large scale. Arsenal's real problem is that they still don't have the winning mentality that Man City and Real Madrid currently have, and I think if on several occasions they can reach the final, it will form that necessary mentality on its own.

Real Madrid and Manchester City continue to lured their strength towards major titles. You're saying Arsenal will win the UEFA Champions League title? Funny how it sounds because the Gunners are completely categorized as a struggling club because they've failed to win major titles over the years. With the epic consistent performance, they still can't possess the full domination of the English Premier League because of just one man and his incredible club. Pep Guardiola have been a major barrier for Mikel Arteta.

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We are moving on from where we left in the Champions League qualification round... Next games are starting in 4 days.

I think Dynamo Kyiv, Fenerbahçe, Sparta Praha all will advance to next round. Only these three teams' matchups are attracting my attention for now honestly. But I hope we see some good action in the other ones too.

The odds are still not determined yet as far as I can see. If I get some good total odds from these choices I'm thinking of making a parlay with them. But betting on all of their win at the same time might be more risky so I'll think about it. Sad

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Quote from: punk.zink on July 18, 2024, 11:50:48 PM

I think Arsenal doesn't have to make a major overhaul to become champions because they already have a pretty solid squad and a good coach. At most, they only need to sign a few players who are really needed and don't have to make changes on a large scale. Arsenal's real problem is that they still don't have the winning mentality that Man City and Real Madrid currently have, and I think if on several occasions they can reach the final, it will form that necessary mentality on its own.

While I do agree that they do not need a "overhaul" for it, I also think that they should still try to do it the way they can, they should definitely get players that would be better for them in the end and should definitely be considered a good deal. I am not saying that they should change every player, but if that option was available than every team would do it, what I mean is more realistic, like if they can get 2 players, that would improve two positions, then do not step back because you did fine so far, you should try to improve it whenever you can.

This is why I believe that we are going to end up with something much better, it is going to end up with a situation that will profit them all. I know that it will not be simple, and I know that it will take some time, but it can be done and we should be looking for that if we know what we are doing. In the end, what we need to consider right now is just to keep it going as far as we can with players they have, and hire anyone who seems better. Arsenal has some money, I mean being in UCL and being second two times in a row at premier league, makes a team good chunk of money, just because they were decent, should they just not spend that money?

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Quote from: Docnaster on July 19, 2024, 10:32:21 AM

Talking about Arsenal's balance as a team and if there's any need to overhaul the team, I personally do not think they need to overhaul the team because the club manager Mikel Arteta have been building the team for over four years now. The young Spanish manager have been able to significantly improve the Arsenal team than we've ever seen them since the club's legendary former manager Arsene Wenger left the club so I think they only need to make few significant additions to further strengthen the team and make them more formidable than they were last season. Gabriel Jesus used to the club's first choice striker but last season, he struggled to perform well after suffering injuries which made Kai Havertz overtake every other striker in the team to lead the attack. So if there's any position Arsenal really needs to strengthen, I think it's the top 9 strikers position.

Arsenal cannot be talking about overhauling at this time, except if they would consider rebalancing where necessary of which I'm not spotting the many necessities for that just yet. Another point of consideration is that building the tem fo the past four years isn't reason enough not to overhaul if need be. Arsenal have been of a good and impressive improving form and they appear to be getting better every season so I'm looking forward to a difference from what I've seen in the past season since it looks like there have been a progressive growth trend with them. Getting better than last season is something I believe and I'm very hopeful about that Kai havertz will do, Arteta is most likely going to make sure to that.

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Quote from: Jegileman on July 19, 2024, 01:57:39 PM

Quote from: punk.zink on July 18, 2024, 11:50:48 PM

I think Arsenal doesn't have to make a major overhaul to become champions because they already have a pretty solid squad and a good coach. At most, they only need to sign a few players who are really needed and don't have to make changes on a large scale. Arsenal's real problem is that they still don't have the winning mentality that Man City and Real Madrid currently have, and I think if on several occasions they can reach the final, it will form that necessary mentality on its own.

Arsenal are not missing out on anything not to be a major contender of the champions league just like Manchester City and Real Madrid have been over the years now. Arsenal are a great team and they have all it takes to win any trophy now. Just like you’ve mentioned, they just lack that winning mentality and that is what have caused them to not have win any trophy for themself till date despite the great performance they pull up every season. If they can have that winning mentality and their mind set at making sure that they get what they want by all means, they can win a trophy in the next season. I have so much believe in them but they always disappointed towards the end of the season.

That is the main problem for Arsenal, and they need to solve it, because how can you be performing well and making fans believe with them that they will win the title and then disappoint at the end, so whenever they are winning matches, I know that they will perform poorly at the end, and how can you perform in two seasons and still not get the opportunity to win the trophy, allowing Manchester City to win back-to-back in the Premier League? Arsenal must first win the Premier League before they can take on the champions league because with how they are doing they will be always be knockout in every round of 16th. So let see if they can escape in the Champions League this team because anytime they join them with big club they don't succeed. Arteta is the head coach and is him that will improve the quality of the team.

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Quote from: Jegileman on July 19, 2024, 01:57:39 PM

Quote from: punk.zink on July 18, 2024, 11:50:48 PM

I think Arsenal doesn't have to make a major overhaul to become champions because they already have a pretty solid squad and a good coach. At most, they only need to sign a few players who are really needed and don't have to make changes on a large scale. Arsenal's real problem is that they still don't have the winning mentality that Man City and Real Madrid currently have, and I think if on several occasions they can reach the final, it will form that necessary mentality on its own.

Arsenal are not missing out on anything not to be a major contender of the champions league just like Manchester City and Real Madrid have been over the years now. Arsenal are a great team and they have all it takes to win any trophy now. Just like you’ve mentioned, they just lack that winning mentality and that is what have caused them to not have win any trophy for themself till date despite the great performance they pull up every season. If they can have that winning mentality and their mind set at making sure that they get what they want by all means, they can win a trophy in the next season. I have so much believe in them but they always disappointed towards the end of the season.

The Gunner's young squad has been tested in mentality and has been built by Arteta in the last two seasons, Arsenal has consistently provided tough competition to City in their Domestic League. It's just that they haven't been able to realize their dream of becoming champions, so the winning mentality has not been formed for the Gunners squad. Arsenal have been at the top of the Premier League for two seasons, and in the new season Arsenal will compete again in the Champions League. However, it seems that Arteta's current priority is not the UCL trophy, but the Premier League. Currently the Arsenal team is getting more formed, their foundation is strong enough to compete again when all competitions start. but before that, Arteta still needs several newcomers, especially strikers who can be relied on as goal machines in his squad. Thus, Arsenal's chances are getting bigger in competition with Man City. Likewise in the UCL, even though their target is the Premier League. However, that doesn't mean Arsenal won't play their best performance in this competition. To be sure, we wait for the new arrivals that Arteta is targeting and their performance when the whole League starts.

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Quote from: Jegileman on July 19, 2024, 01:57:39 PM

Quote from: punk.zink on July 18, 2024, 11:50:48 PM

I think Arsenal doesn't have to make a major overhaul to become champions because they already have a pretty solid squad and a good coach. At most, they only need to sign a few players who are really needed and don't have to make changes on a large scale. Arsenal's real problem is that they still don't have the winning mentality that Man City and Real Madrid currently have, and I think if on several occasions they can reach the final, it will form that necessary mentality on its own.

Arsenal are not missing out on anything not to be a major contender of the champions league just like Manchester City and Real Madrid have been over the years now. Arsenal are a great team and they have all it takes to win any trophy now. Just like you’ve mentioned, they just lack that winning mentality and that is what have caused them to not have win any trophy for themself till date despite the great performance they pull up every season. If they can have that winning mentality and their mind set at making sure that they get what they want by all means, they can win a trophy in the next season. I have so much believe in them but they always disappointed towards the end of the season.

I think this is the only fact I have seen about Arsenal so far. They are really good and the squad is very strong, but I think the luck to win is not always by their side, and also, at the end of any season, they get slack; they don’t perform as they start the season; if not, Arsenal always starts all the seasons with great performances that no team can come near them that will give them any pressure by any side, but they always get problems when the season comes to an end. If not, if we are to talk about squads, the Arsenal squad is full and can win any trophies, but luck is not by their side, so I think they need to work harder to get things done for themselves because I believe they can do it.

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