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Quote from: Docnaster on August 25, 2024, 11:30:16 AM

Away from the the UEFA Champions League qualifying games, the
2024/25 UCL will officially kick off in less than 1 month from now and to some of us, we can't just hold back the excitement of seeing club football's most prestigious competition return back to our screens again. As a Real Madrid fan, I'm very optimistic that the reigning European and Spanish champions stands a very good chance of retaining the competition. Do you think we're going to have a different winner? How about Pep Guardiola's Manchester City, do you think they'll steer themselves to glory once again this season?

Right now, your assertion on Real Madrid can still stand because you’re rating them according to their last season’s performance and how they were able to end the season with a champions league win. Manchester City looking from last season still remains the only team that can give Real Madrid a very tough time to prevail easily to win the trophy again. This season’s champions league format has been changed and for that reason, we have to wait to see how each team will be playing and how well they can make it out of the first round of the competition. A lot will happen because it may look like they’re playing to league matches and will have to be at their best to maintain the top level of the champions league table. So until the season starts, I am not sure who will be the best candidate this year.

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Quote from: Docnaster on August 25, 2024, 11:30:16 AM

Away from the the UEFA Champions League qualifying games, the
2024/25 UCL will officially kick off in less than 1 month from now and to some of us, we can't just hold back the excitement of seeing club football's most prestigious competition return back to our screens again. As a Real Madrid fan, I'm very optimistic that the reigning European and Spanish champions stands a very good chance of retaining the competition. Do you think we're going to have a different winner? How about Pep Guardiola's Manchester City, do you think they'll steer themselves to glory once again this season?

To be honest, previously I was very confident that Real Madrid still had a very big chance to win the Champions League trophy this season. Of course, the factor about Real Madrid's success in bringing Mbappe, it became a factor for me to be very confident that Real Madrid would succeed again this season. But unfortunately, from the two matches that Real Madrid have played in La Liga, at least make me slightly lower my confidence in Real Madrid. But even though I slightly lowered my expectations of Real Madrid but still, it is difficult to eliminate Real Madrid from the list of title candidate teams.

Because after all, although Real Madrid have experienced bad results in La Liga, but the fact is that Real Madrid still managed to get good results in the Champion League. Therefore, I say it is difficult to ignore Real Madrid in the Champions League, because basically Real Madrid always has a great effort and the right tactics to compete great in the Champions League.

We are at the first games of the new football season, it is also normal to start with some not excellent results, but Real Madrid have already won the European Super Cup against Atalanta, and already there you could see that the fitness of the players was not at the top. Surely they will start getting excellent results and as far as I am concerned Real Madrid is still the main candidate to win the Champions League again this year.

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Quote from: hahay on August 25, 2024, 03:22:27 PM

To be honest, previously I was very confident that Real Madrid still had a very big chance to win the Champions League trophy this season. Of course, the factor about Real Madrid's success in bringing Mbappe, it became a factor for me to be very confident that Real Madrid would succeed again this season. But unfortunately, from the two matches that Real Madrid have played in La Liga, at least make me slightly lower my confidence in Real Madrid. But even though I slightly lowered my expectations of Real Madrid but still, it is difficult to eliminate Real Madrid from the list of title candidate teams.

Because after all, although Real Madrid have experienced bad results in La Liga, but the fact is that Real Madrid still managed to get good results in the Champion League. Therefore, I say it is difficult to ignore Real Madrid in the Champions League, because basically Real Madrid always has a great effort and the right tactics to compete great in the Champions League.

It is too early to judge the team's shape based on the first games. It is obvious that Ancelotti will lead Real to the peak of shape by the Champions League playoff stage. I wouldn't forget the fact that almost all of the Real Madrid players didn't have a summer holiday, but worked hard in their national teams, so it's quite logical that they are "resting" at the beginning of this season.

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Quote from: Docnaster on August 25, 2024, 11:30:16 AM

Away from the the UEFA Champions League qualifying games, the
2024/25 UCL will officially kick off in less than 1 month from now and to some of us, we can't just hold back the excitement of seeing club football's most prestigious competition return back to our screens again. As a Real Madrid fan, I'm very optimistic that the reigning European and Spanish champions stands a very good chance of retaining the competition. Do you think we're going to have a different winner? How about Pep Guardiola's Manchester City, do you think they'll steer themselves to glory once again this season?

Honestly I don't want to be quick to . making conclusions or even predictions, I would have said probably judging from the performance of the teams who qualified for the champions league so far in their various domestic leagues, we could get a go idea into what their performance would look like in the champions league but on a second taught, champions league do come with a different kind of spirit and the energy there is very different so I believe they may perform absolutely differently and this was seen with some teams last season, especially the German teams who where not doing so well in their domestic league but got to perform brilliantly in the champions league, my anticipations are actually high and Madrid and city been top choice for the league winners is another highlight to watch out for.

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Quote from: Docnaster on August 25, 2024, 11:30:16 AM

Away from the the UEFA Champions League qualifying games, the
2024/25 UCL will officially kick off in less than 1 month from now and to some of us, we can't just hold back the excitement of seeing club football's most prestigious competition return back to our screens again. As a Real Madrid fan, I'm very optimistic that the reigning European and Spanish champions stands a very good chance of retaining the competition. Do you think we're going to have a different winner? How about Pep Guardiola's Manchester City, do you think they'll steer themselves to glory once again this season?

To be honest, previously I was very confident that Real Madrid still had a very big chance to win the Champions League trophy this season. Of course, the factor about Real Madrid's success in bringing Mbappe, it became a factor for me to be very confident that Real Madrid would succeed again this season. But unfortunately, from the two matches that Real Madrid have played in La Liga, at least make me slightly lower my confidence in Real Madrid. But even though I slightly lowered my expectations of Real Madrid but still, it is difficult to eliminate Real Madrid from the list of title candidate teams.

Because after all, although Real Madrid have experienced bad results in La Liga, but the fact is that Real Madrid still managed to get good results in the Champion League. Therefore, I say it is difficult to ignore Real Madrid in the Champions League, because basically Real Madrid always has a great effort and the right tactics to compete great in the Champions League.

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Away from the the UEFA Champions League qualifying games, the
2024/25 UCL will officially kick off in less than 1 month from now and to some of us, we can't just hold back the excitement of seeing club football's most prestigious competition return back to our screens again. As a Real Madrid fan, I'm very optimistic that the reigning European and Spanish champions stands a very good chance of retaining the competition. Do you think we're going to have a different winner? How about Pep Guardiola's Manchester City, do you think they'll steer themselves to glory once again this season?

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I think the match between Young Boys vs Galatasaray and Red Star vs Bodo/Glimt still has to be decided in the second leg. Beyond my expectation, both teams, Young Boys and Bodo/Glimt can win the match. But it is a narrow score. Galatasaray and Red Star still have the opportunity to catch up on the goal deficit. They only need 1 goal to equalize the aggregate. This is not difficult because Galatasaray and Red Star are the favorite teams in this match. I predict that both can turn things around and advance to the next round.
GNK Dinamo Zagreb managed to get a satisfactory result after defeating Qarabag 3-0. There is no more chance for Qarabag to catch up on the 3-goal deficit. That is an almost impossible mission.

Yeah. We can’t conclude that Galatasaray is not in good form yet. Because I also think the young boys had luck winning against them, so as you said, I think that will be the best time to know which team is stronger since this is the first leg and we need to wait for the second leg. Because I personally thought the same thing: Galatasaray are stronger than the young boys, and Red Star are also good. When I saw these two matches, I was surprised, and it made me think that maybe Galatasaray and Red Star are in bad form or what. Nevertheless, let’s watch out for the second leg.

The defeat against Youngboy was of course very painful for Galatasaray and I don't think we can say that Youngboy was just lucky in that match, youngboy who played at home played very impressively in contrast to Galatasaray who actually had great difficulty in maximizing every opportunity that existed in that match, Of course luck doesn't exist without hard work, so that's what makes me think that youngboy really deserves to won in the first leg if we look at their performance and hard work in that match.

The 2-3 advantage means that Youngboy has the advantage in the second leg with just only need get a draw, but in my opinion it will be difficult for them to do so when they play at Galatasaray home, because previously Galatasaray failed to take advantage of every opportunity to score a goal and I think they won't again repeat this in the second leg, so it is very likely that we will see that Galatasaray will be able to take advantage of the momentum of playing at home to win and qualify for the Champions League this season.

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Quote from: Hyphen(-) on August 24, 2024, 04:37:14 PM

Quote from: Dzwaafu11 on August 24, 2024, 01:13:10 PM

Yeah. We can’t conclude that Galatasaray is not in good form yet. Because I also think the young boys had luck winning against them, so as you said, I think that will be the best time to know which team is stronger since this is the first leg and we need to wait for the second leg. Because I personally thought the same thing: Galatasaray are stronger than the young boys, and Red Star are also good. When I saw these two matches, I was surprised, and it made me think that maybe Galatasaray and Red Star are in bad form or what. Nevertheless, let’s watch out for the second leg.

To sideline one team among these two teams is not fair in my opinion because in terms of their past performance as far as the Champions League is concerned, they are both trying. After all, both of them are doing credibly well. Young Boy playing away from home in the second League might be an advantage for Galatasaray because they will like to revenge what happened to them in the first leg, but it can also be possible for Youg Boys to defeat Galatasaray again because they have good Champions League experience than Galatasaray even though Jose Mourinho is the current Galatasaray's manager.

They are the ones who will determine whether they will be able to advance to the Champions League or not, one last match with Young Boys leading the aggregate over Galatasaray. Galatasaray is indeed more advantaged because they will play as hosts in the second leg later, it will be a mental pressure that will be obtained by Young Boys players from the home supporters. On paper Young Boys can be said to be more favored because they won in the first leg, but the problem is that the distance of 1 goal is rarely very close that can be overcome by Galatasaray. I do not mean to underestimate Young Boys because after all they are a good team and can be up to this point. But what I mean is when Galatasaray can score a goal first then mentally I think Young Boys will decline and that can be exploited by the opponent.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on August 24, 2024, 06:05:36 AM

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I think the match between Young Boys vs Galatasaray and Red Star vs Bodo/Glimt still has to be decided in the second leg. Beyond my expectation, both teams, Young Boys and Bodo/Glimt can win the match. But it is a narrow score. Galatasaray and Red Star still have the opportunity to catch up on the goal deficit. They only need 1 goal to equalize the aggregate. This is not difficult because Galatasaray and Red Star are the favorite teams in this match. I predict that both can turn things around and advance to the next round.
GNK Dinamo Zagreb managed to get a satisfactory result after defeating Qarabag 3-0. There is no more chance for Qarabag to catch up on the 3-goal deficit. That is an almost impossible mission.

Galatasaray, sure, they ran upon an obstacle. Perhaps some guys were a little rusty, but they are a proud club with a past of performance when it counts. On their home ground particularly, expect them to come out swinging in the second leg. Look for them to press Young Boys' defense and intensify their attack. Red Star is now somewhat in a tough place. They have to score, although we all seen Bodø/Glimt's tenacity. It will call for a competent, orderly performance. They must grab possession of the midfield and generate opportunities.

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I'm a bit more confident on galatasaray winning the second leg than Young Boys, although the Young Boys did well during the game and took advantage of the slight opportunities they had, an example of which was the penalty that was scored by Ugrinic. But it doesn't show whether galatasaray had less capacity to win. What I suggest this second leg is for galatasaray to put themselves in order and go for the goals and not just anything else. I know the second leg will be tougher since Young Boys team will be more intense this time around

In addition to the Young Boys team who can play more intensely in the second leg later, Galatasaray who are the hosts will also try to build attacks and take advantage of every opportunity in order to win by more than one goal. Because it would be better to win by more than one goal than having to go through penalties because of being affected by the same aggregate, so both teams seem to be playing as well as possible in the second leg in order to qualify for the Champions League this season.

There is no choice for Galatasaray other than to go out attacking in the second leg and look for a goal as soon as possible so that their aggregate becomes the same, after that they can be more calm in finishing the match. On the other hand, Young Boys will be in confusion in my opinion, because when they apply a defensive strategy, they will lose a little chance to attack, but when they play more openly and attack, maybe that will create a gap in the back line that can be exploited by Galatasaray.
An aggregate of 1 goal will be very risky when two teams with almost the same strength meet. Young Boys will indeed get a little fresh air after they bring the advantage they achieved in the first leg, but that cannot be a guarantee because they are under threat from the host.

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I'm a bit more confident on galatasaray winning the second leg than Young Boys, although the Young Boys did well during the game and took advantage of the slight opportunities they had, an example of which was the penalty that was scored by Ugrinic. But it doesn't show whether galatasaray had less capacity to win. What I suggest this second leg is for galatasaray to put themselves in order and go for the goals and not just anything else. I know the second leg will be tougher since Young Boys team will be more intense this time around

In addition to the Young Boys team who can play more intensely in the second leg later, Galatasaray who are the hosts will also try to build attacks and take advantage of every opportunity in order to win by more than one goal. Because it would be better to win by more than one goal than having to go through penalties because of being affected by the same aggregate, so both teams seem to be playing as well as possible in the second leg in order to qualify for the Champions League this season.

The young boy who won in the first leg of course has high motivation and self-confidence to face Galatasaray in the second leg, but motivation and ambition are certainly not enough to be able to win at Galatasaray home easily, in factz I think it will be very difficult match for youngboy to be able to beat Galatasaray in the second leg match because so far Galatasaray is known to be quite tough when playing in front of its own supporters, apart from that, if we look at the first leg match, Galatasaray was actually able to dominate the match and create lots of opportunities but Galatasaray attackers were not optimal in that match so make a lot of wasted opportunities, so I think Okan Buruk, will definitely optimize their attack line in the second leg and it is very likely if Batshuayi who scored two goals in the first leg, will play from the start of the match and young boys should be wary of him if they don't want to fail to qualify for the champions league.

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Quote from: iBaba on August 24, 2024, 12:41:13 PM

I'm a bit more confident on galatasaray winning the second leg than Young Boys, although the Young Boys did well during the game and took advantage of the slight opportunities they had, an example of which was the penalty that was scored by Ugrinic. But it doesn't show whether galatasaray had less capacity to win. What I suggest this second leg is for galatasaray to put themselves in order and go for the goals and not just anything else. I know the second leg will be tougher since Young Boys team will be more intense this time around

In addition to the Young Boys team who can play more intensely in the second leg later, Galatasaray who are the hosts will also try to build attacks and take advantage of every opportunity in order to win by more than one goal. Because it would be better to win by more than one goal than having to go through penalties because of being affected by the same aggregate, so both teams seem to be playing as well as possible in the second leg in order to qualify for the Champions League this season.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on August 24, 2024, 06:05:36 AM

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I think the match between Young Boys vs Galatasaray and Red Star vs Bodo/Glimt still has to be decided in the second leg. Beyond my expectation, both teams, Young Boys and Bodo/Glimt can win the match. But it is a narrow score. Galatasaray and Red Star still have the opportunity to catch up on the goal deficit. They only need 1 goal to equalize the aggregate. This is not difficult because Galatasaray and Red Star are the favorite teams in this match. I predict that both can turn things around and advance to the next round.

It will not be difficult for Galatasaray and Red Star to equalize the aggregate because they have the advantage to win in the second leg otherwise they will end up here and that is very sad. Galatasaray and Youngboys they are 2 clubs that played in the Champions League group stage last season and they want to return to this competition unfortunately they met in this qualifying round so they can only fight hard to advance or fall behind.

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GNK Dinamo Zagreb managed to get a satisfactory result after defeating Qarabag 3-0. There is no more chance for Qarabag to catch up on the 3-goal deficit. That is an almost impossible mission.

Yes I think it is quite difficult for Qarabag to catch up on the 3 goals in the second leg in the previous match maybe they were lucky to beat Ludogorets with a big score even though they were behind in the first leg but at that time they were only behind by 2 goals and now it is different with a different club I think Qarabag will end up in this play off round.

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Quote from: Dzwaafu11 on August 24, 2024, 01:13:10 PM

Yeah. We can’t conclude that Galatasaray is not in good form yet. Because I also think the young boys had luck winning against them, so as you said, I think that will be the best time to know which team is stronger since this is the first leg and we need to wait for the second leg. Because I personally thought the same thing: Galatasaray are stronger than the young boys, and Red Star are also good. When I saw these two matches, I was surprised, and it made me think that maybe Galatasaray and Red Star are in bad form or what. Nevertheless, let’s watch out for the second leg.

To sideline one team among these two teams is not fair in my opinion because in terms of their past performance as far as the Champions League is concerned, they are both trying. After all, both of them are doing credibly well. Young Boy playing away from home in the second League might be an advantage for Galatasaray because they will like to revenge what happened to them in the first leg, but it can also be possible for Youg Boys to defeat Galatasaray again because they have good Champions League experience than Galatasaray even though Jose Mourinho is the current Galatasaray's manager.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on August 24, 2024, 12:23:45 PM

Yes, Young Boys are not completely safe after they managed to win the first leg match against Galatasaray, because their opponent is not an easy opponent and with a 1 goal advantage it is not safe at all.
When we look at the statistics in the first leg, we will see that Galatasaray could actually play well, but in my opinion they were just unlucky in that match. Because I myself think they deserved to draw with their game like that. Not to say that Young Boys played badly, they are also good, but the statistics say that their game is actually not much different, so I say they deserved to draw.

It will be out of place if young boys think they are now at the top of their game and give room for any reluctancy because they were able to win Galatasaray. I even have the believe that young boys may not go too far in the champion's league this season but then if they improve their performance by doing more than they have been doing so far, the chances for them may improve and they hopefully may be able to get to finish decently in the champions league but are very likely not to get to the finals as there are far more top teams there to always be a hindrance to them getting it

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on August 24, 2024, 04:41:41 AM

Galatasaray will maximize the second leg. They are only 1 goal ahead of Young Boys, it will not be difficult to get that advantage at their home ground.

There is a mistake here because it is precisely now Galatasaray is left with a 1-goal deficit with an Aggregate of 3-2 in their first match at Stade de Suisse so for the second leg they must be able to maximize playing home in order to equalize the aggregate or be able to win with a difference of 2 goals so that they qualify for the league phase in the Champions League.

This is still a slightly difficult condition because if you look at the performance in the first leg of the two clubs actually quite balanced especially for the second leg this time they will also lose Abdülkerim Bardakcı in defense due to the red card obtained in the first leg. But the advantage of playing at home could provide more strength for them because however now Young Boys will still look more comfortable because they only have to hold a draw in this second leg to qualify for the next phase so Galatasaray will have to work harder in the second leg.

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I think the match between Young Boys vs Galatasaray and Red Star vs Bodo/Glimt still has to be decided in the second leg. Beyond my expectation, both teams, Young Boys and Bodo/Glimt can win the match. But it is a narrow score. Galatasaray and Red Star still have the opportunity to catch up on the goal deficit. They only need 1 goal to equalize the aggregate. This is not difficult because Galatasaray and Red Star are the favorite teams in this match. I predict that both can turn things around and advance to the next round.
GNK Dinamo Zagreb managed to get a satisfactory result after defeating Qarabag 3-0. There is no more chance for Qarabag to catch up on the 3-goal deficit. That is an almost impossible mission.

Yeah. We can’t conclude that Galatasaray is not in good form yet. Because I also think the young boys had luck winning against them, so as you said, I think that will be the best time to know which team is stronger since this is the first leg and we need to wait for the second leg. Because I personally thought the same thing: Galatasaray are stronger than the young boys, and Red Star are also good. When I saw these two matches, I was surprised, and it made me think that maybe Galatasaray and Red Star are in bad form or what. Nevertheless, let’s watch out for the second leg.

Probably a lack of fitness could have been the main problem in these defeats, because Galatasaray and Red Star are two teams made up of very good players. In the return match we will probably see a different spectacle than in the first leg, or at least I personally hope so, without taking anything away from Young Boys and bodo glimt

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I think the match between Young Boys vs Galatasaray and Red Star vs Bodo/Glimt still has to be decided in the second leg. Beyond my expectation, both teams, Young Boys and Bodo/Glimt can win the match. But it is a narrow score. Galatasaray and Red Star still have the opportunity to catch up on the goal deficit. They only need 1 goal to equalize the aggregate. This is not difficult because Galatasaray and Red Star are the favorite teams in this match. I predict that both can turn things around and advance to the next round.
GNK Dinamo Zagreb managed to get a satisfactory result after defeating Qarabag 3-0. There is no more chance for Qarabag to catch up on the 3-goal deficit. That is an almost impossible mission.

Yeah. We can’t conclude that Galatasaray is not in good form yet. Because I also think the young boys had luck winning against them, so as you said, I think that will be the best time to know which team is stronger since this is the first leg and we need to wait for the second leg. Because I personally thought the same thing: Galatasaray are stronger than the young boys, and Red Star are also good. When I saw these two matches, I was surprised, and it made me think that maybe Galatasaray and Red Star are in bad form or what. Nevertheless, let’s watch out for the second leg.

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That penalty was discussed at length on by some pundits. Turns out there are cases and rules about it that made it legit penalty. The idea is that, if it hits your normal body part first and then hit your hand then normally it is not a penalty, the only exception is that if it is your body part and then it still goes to goal and then hits your hand that's penalty.

In this case, Galatasaray player had the ball hit his leg first, but even after hitting the leg, the ball was still going in, before it was touched by the hand.

Was this the case? Was the ball going in if it didn't touch the hand? I do not know, I can't know the trajectory of the ball, but that is what the referee decided, and that is why he gave the penalty. Rules are rules and I guess this applied here.

If the ball touches the body and then bounces or goes in, then it's a legitimate goal. But if the ball touches the hand regardless of the position and situation, then of course it will obviously get a penalty or freekick. But despite these problems, I think Galatasaray still have a chance to be able to turn things around in the second leg later. After all, with a case like that too, then of course Galatasaray will be more ambitious to beat Young Boys at Rams Park at Galatasaray's home in the second leg later. Of course, the issue of the penalty should not be an obstacle or barrier for Galatasaray to keep playing well at home later.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on August 24, 2024, 12:23:45 PM

Yes, Young Boys are not completely safe after they managed to win the first leg match against Galatasaray, because their opponent is not an easy opponent and with a 1 goal advantage it is not safe at all.
When we look at the statistics in the first leg, we will see that Galatasaray could actually play well, but in my opinion they were just unlucky in that match. Because I myself think they deserved to draw with their game like that. Not to say that Young Boys played badly, they are also good, but the statistics say that their game is actually not much different, so I say they deserved to draw.

I'm a bit more confident on galatasaray winning the second leg than Young Boys, although the Young Boys did well during the game and took advantage of the slight opportunities they had, an example of which was the penalty that was scored by Ugrinic. But it doesn't show whether galatasaray had less capacity to win. What I suggest this second leg is for galatasaray to put themselves in order and go for the goals and not just anything else. I know the second leg will be tougher since Young Boys team will be more intense this time around

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