Yes Juventus is playing much better now and that is because of new coach. Massimiliano Allegri did some great things when he was in charge like getting them into Champions League. But now team has new energy and a winning attitude. Their improvement is exciting and gives us reason to be hopeful. Liverpool is also very strong under coach Jurgen Klopp. If they keep playing at this level they will achieve great things.
This season Liverpool and Juventus have both been handled by new coaches and both are still doing quite well in their respective leagues. But I hope Juventus and Liverpool can give better things this season and can win their respective domestic leagues because winning other competitions like UCL seems like it will still be very difficult for both of these teams. Although both teams have managed to win two matches in the Champions League this season and have occupied quite good positions in the standings because of those wins. 
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The current standings cannot be used as an indicator of who will win the UCL, the matches have only been played 2 times, there are 6 left for each team to advance to the last 16, the top 7 teams in the standings that you mentioned will be shifted at some point because the positions will continue to change. Of the 7 teams, 3 of them are Brest, Benfica, Aston Villa, I am not sure they will be in 8th position at the end of the standings. I am even more sure they will be eliminated. UCL now strong teams are required to fight at the beginning, this new format can be said to be difficult, teams that are not too dominant will be eliminated before entering the last 16. And regarding Madrid, Man City, Bayern Munich or Barcelona, I still think that one of them will lift the UCL trophy.I'm not saying that this standings can be used as an indicator, i'm just making a comparison between the teams that are where they are. It is true that standings are dynamic, we might see Real Madrid or Bayern Munich at the top of the standings after 5 more matches are played.
From their performance in the Champions League or their league, one of the three teams is indeed worthy of being the Champions League champion, we are just making wild speculations that have no basis, don't take it too seriously.
You are completely right about that. I am very happy that Juve is a team that is now giving its all. It is a clear example that things have improved since the change of coach. I am one of those people who recognise that thanks to Allegri they achieved many things, at least qualifying for the UCL But now with this team that I see as very good, renewed, with a different air of triumph, it is giving a lot to talk about. On the other hand, I see that Liverpool is not going to give in, I see a team that is very strong, so strong that it is likely that if it maintains its level it can achieve great results.
Yes Juventus is playing much better now and that is because of new coach. Massimiliano Allegri did some great things when he was in charge like getting them into Champions League. But now team has new energy and a winning attitude. Their improvement is exciting and gives us reason to be hopeful. I can't agree with you in this. Juventus is playing better in Europe, but they are poor in Serie A. They have not found their best set-up yet. They looked so damn poor even when they faced a weak team in Serie a. It seems they still lack motivation from their new coach, Motta.
And they are still having attacking line as their main problem. They often struggled to beat weak clubs. They created many chances but had poor finishing, it made them often dropped some points.
Although Juventus have been making huge improvements compared to pre-season matches. But they obviously have to revamp their attacking line. They're a club with solid defense, but a poor attack. And hopefully, they
You are completely right about that. I am very happy that Juve is a team that is now giving its all. It is a clear example that things have improved since the change of coach. I am one of those people who recognise that thanks to Allegri they achieved many things, at least qualifying for the UCL But now with this team that I see as very good, renewed, with a different air of triumph, it is giving a lot to talk about. On the other hand, I see that Liverpool is not going to give in, I see a team that is very strong, so strong that it is likely that if it maintains its level it can achieve great results.
Yes Juventus is playing much better now and that is because of new coach. Massimiliano Allegri did some great things when he was in charge like getting them into Champions League. But now team has new energy and a winning attitude. Their improvement is exciting and gives us reason to be hopeful. Liverpool is also very strong under coach Jurgen Klopp. If they keep playing at this level they will achieve great things.Liverpool after losing Klopp are a little bit worried but actually Slot on the contrary makes them better, with their extraordinary strategy Liverpool are quite good so far, Salah is a player who has improved again and also some other players who had been down they have come back much more effective lately, I think Liverpool can be better than before.
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I think also Hansi Flick is a coach who is equally new to Barcelona, so this argument will not be strong if you look from that side like Kompany, but if you look at H2H wins Barcelona is in a bad experience when meeting with Bayern Munich, now we see that these two teams are in pretty good condition in their domestic league which will make it quite difficult for us to determine who will win, my analysis is quite lucky about this match, but if you talk about feeling and just rely on instinct alone I think Barcelona has the possibility to get a victory. 
You are completely right about that. I am very happy that Juve is a team that is now giving its all. It is a clear example that things have improved since the change of coach. I am one of those people who recognise that thanks to Allegri they achieved many things, at least qualifying for the UCL But now with this team that I see as very good, renewed, with a different air of triumph, it is giving a lot to talk about. On the other hand, I see that Liverpool is not going to give in, I see a team that is very strong, so strong that it is likely that if it maintains its level it can achieve great results.
Yes Juventus is playing much better now and that is because of new coach. Massimiliano Allegri did some great things when he was in charge like getting them into Champions League. But now team has new energy and a winning attitude. Their improvement is exciting and gives us reason to be hopeful. Liverpool is also very strong under coach Jurgen Klopp. If they keep playing at this level they will achieve great things. 
In fact, Juventus played very well in that match. Despite falling behind, they recovered in the second half. They also continued to fight without losing the balance of the game after receiving a red card and scored two more goals. At the end of the match, Juventus won 3-2. The next match for Leipzig will be very difficult because the opponent is strong Liverpool. I wonder what they can do against Liverpool. If they can surprise them, they will have an important victory to advance in the Champions League.
You are completely right about that. I am very happy that Juve is a team that is now giving its all. It is a clear example that things have improved since the change of coach. I am one of those people who recognise that thanks to Allegri they achieved many things, at least qualifying for the UCL But now with this team that I see as very good, renewed, with a different air of triumph, it is giving a lot to talk about. On the other hand, I see that Liverpool is not going to give in, I see a team that is very strong, so strong that it is likely that if it maintains its level it can achieve great results.
The rate for Barcelona seems much lower than Bayern Munich and this can be how people expect to see Bayern Munich wins this match against Barcelona. However, both coaches Flick and Kompaney had good starts so far in the games we saw from them they were much better than we were expected to see from these two.
But still, the fact about Kompany is he is not experienced in the harder games while the main weakness for Barcelona is not having experienced defenders.
But still, the fact about Kompany is he is not experienced in the harder games while the main weakness for Barcelona is not having experienced defenders.
We shall get to see soon if your assertion of this two coaches are true or not. I can’t really vouch for Kompany because he has faced big teams this season and failed to win them. As for Hansi Flick, his defenders may not be that good but if he has experience in the competition, he’ll help play a better role in bringing success to his team despite the experience that Bayern Munich players have in the champions league competition. Kompany will once again prove his worthiness as a coach when he plays against Barcelona and win the game. It is not going to be an easy encounter for him though, but with the right approach into this game, I see him winning the match ahead of Barcelona.
Bayern Munich are in better shape this season, and Barcelona are doing well as well, but in the Champions League, Bayern Munich are better than Barcelona because the last time Barcelona met Bayern Munich, they still defeated Barcelona because Munich are stronger than them, and I still believe that nothing will change against Munich and Barcelona, and they will still have the opportunity to defeat Barcelona, because they don't have history against Munich, but since they are playing in the camp nou, they can do well and probably be a draw game because Barcelona can't defeat Munich in the ucl, but let see what will happen this time in the game. since they have changed the method and they have new players and coach to the team, let see what they will play with each other after international break. Is only real madrid always know how to play Bayern Munich in the ucl very well, they no there weak point so nothing will stop them. Tuchel that that as not lose in the semi final before in the ucl but madrid as break is record in the competition. But the two club are topping there league table and they will still be topping the league thing they meet each other.
Hansi Flick seems to be the difference maker in the Barcelona vs Bayern Munich match.In many aspects, Kompany squad is indeed more worthy of being the favorite, but in my opinion Hansi Flick knowledge of Bayern Munich will give Barcelona a slight advantage. In addition, by acting as the host, of course it will make Barcelona more confident in securing full points, or at least avoiding defeat by drawing. Both teams are currently leading the top of their respective domestic league standings, indicating that both have a bargaining value that is not much different.
Aston Villa was able to beat Bayern Munich, of course Barcelona be optimistic to do the same, although we realize that it is not an easy job besides luck also plays another important role. In terms of experience, Kompany is still far behind Hansi Flick, but the depth of the squad owned by Bayern Munich makes Kompany job easier.
For now, it is quite difficult to see the overall strength of the two teams, because some players are strengthening their respective countries. Most likely, some Barcelona players who are injured will be available again after this international break, it will provide additional strength for Barcelona.
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Can not underestimate Bayern Munich they also have a sharp attack line even able to find many gaps to score goals on the other hand Barcelona also has the same attackers it is still difficult to say who will win.But the bookies have favored Barcelona in terms of the odds displayed now, maybe the one playing away will win.
Maybe my option when betting later will be both teams score or double chances.
I won't choose the single, so I'll put it into a parlay bet for another match.
It's difficult to determine the winner of that match, but rest assured many people will have serious doubts about Barcelona. The H2H between Barcelona and Bayern Munich is very striking, I mean Bayern Munich wins more often than Barcelona. Of their 13 matches in the Champions League, Barcelona has only won 2 matches, while Bayern Munich has 10 wins and 1 draw. Their total goals from 13 matches were 46 goals, Barcelona 13 goals and Bayern Munich 33 goals. Bayern Munich is the favorite in this match in my opinion, but there are still analyzes that might doubt Kompany as the new coach.
It's difficult to determine the winner of that match, but rest assured many people will have serious doubts about Barcelona. The H2H between Barcelona and Bayern Munich is very striking, I mean Bayern Munich wins more often than Barcelona.
It's difficult to determine the winner of that match, but rest assured many people will have serious doubts about Barcelona. The H2H between Barcelona and Bayern Munich is very striking, I mean Bayern Munich wins more often than Barcelona. Of their 13 matches in the Champions League, Barcelona has only won 2 matches, while Bayern Munich has 10 wins and 1 draw. Their total goals from 13 matches were 46 goals, Barcelona 13 goals and Bayern Munich 33 goals. Bayern Munich is the favorite in this match in my opinion, but there are still analyzes that might doubt Kompany as the new coach.
Even so, this season we have to look at it from the perspective of the coaches of both teams because Hansi Flick has certainly proven that he has succeeded in building a stronger team and he has also coached Bayern Munich so I think he has a special strategy to end Barcelona's bad streak when they face representatives from the Bundesliga. Apart from that, H2H Bayern performed better but they will not necessarily succeed in this meeting because Barcelona's game this season has been very good under Hansi Flick's coaching. It's difficult to determine the winner of that match, but rest assured many people will have serious doubts about Barcelona. The H2H between Barcelona and Bayern Munich is very striking, I mean Bayern Munich wins more often than Barcelona. Of their 13 matches in the Champions League, Barcelona has only won 2 matches, while Bayern Munich has 10 wins and 1 draw. Their total goals from 13 matches were 46 goals, Barcelona 13 goals and Bayern Munich 33 goals. Bayern Munich is the favorite in this match in my opinion, but there are still analyzes that might doubt Kompany as the new coach.
I think Barcelona can learn from Aston Villa how to beat Bayern Munich where they have to play extra carefully and not give Bayern Munich players a small gap to threaten their goal. Maybe a small score will be the final result and I hope this match will be won by Barcelona. Bayern Munich is indeed known to be very good at taking advantage of the opponent's imbalance when they control the course of the match, for that Barcelona's defense must be stronger and highly prioritized to kill the movement of Bayern Munich players.
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Can not underestimate Bayern Munich they also have a sharp attack line even able to find many gaps to score goals on the other hand Barcelona also has the same attackers it is still difficult to say who will win.But the bookies have favored Barcelona in terms of the odds displayed now, maybe the one playing away will win.
Maybe my option when betting later will be both teams score or double chances.
I won't choose the single, so I'll put it into a parlay bet for another match.
It's difficult to determine the winner of that match, but rest assured many people will have serious doubts about Barcelona. The H2H between Barcelona and Bayern Munich is very striking, I mean Bayern Munich wins more often than Barcelona. Of their 13 matches in the Champions League, Barcelona has only won 2 matches, while Bayern Munich has 10 wins and 1 draw. Their total goals from 13 matches were 46 goals, Barcelona 13 goals and Bayern Munich 33 goals. Bayern Munich is the favorite in this match in my opinion, but there are still analyzes that might doubt Kompany as the new coach.
The rate for Barcelona seems much lower than Bayern Munich and this can be how people expect to see Bayern Munich wins this match against Barcelona. However, both coaches Flick and Kompaney had good starts so far in the games we saw from them they were much better than we were expected to see from these two.
But still, the fact about Kompany is he is not experienced in the harder games while the main weakness for Barcelona is not having experienced defenders.
However, with Barcelona's position as host, it is quite natural that Barcelona is still the favorite to win this match. But somehow it seems interesting to choose a draw in this match. And I think many of us here are not sure about the choice. Either you have to favor the home team, namely Barcelona, or the visiting team, namely Bayern. Both teams seem to have started the season equally well with their respective new coaches. After replacing Xavi, we know that Hansi Flick has succeeded in bringing positive results for Barcelona in La Liga. And Bayern also experienced the same thing, which experienced another improvement after Tuchel was replaced by Vincent Kompany. But if we talk about playing style then honestly I prefer the style that Hansi Flick created at Barcelona. So I feel quite confident that Barcelona will play very well and make it difficult for their opponents who come to Barcelona's home ground.But still, the fact about Kompany is he is not experienced in the harder games while the main weakness for Barcelona is not having experienced defenders.
Bayern Munich are in better shape this season, and Barcelona are doing well as well, but in the Champions League, Bayern Munich are better than Barcelona because the last time Barcelona met Bayern Munich, they still defeated Barcelona because Munich are stronger than them, and I still believe that nothing will change against Munich and Barcelona, and they will still have the opportunity to defeat Barcelona, because they don't have history against Munich, but since they are playing in the camp nou, they can do well and probably be a draw game because Barcelona can't defeat Munich in the ucl, but let see what will happen this time in the game. since they have changed the method and they have new players and coach to the team, let see what they will play with each other after international break. Is only real madrid always know how to play Bayern Munich in the ucl very well, they no there weak point so nothing will stop them. Tuchel that that as not lose in the semi final before in the ucl but madrid as break is record in the competition. But the two club are topping there league table and they will still be topping the league thing they meet each other.
The current standings cannot be used as an indicator of who will win the UCL, the matches have only been played 2 times, there are 6 left for each team to advance to the last 16, the top 7 teams in the standings that you mentioned will be shifted at some point because the positions will continue to change. Of the 7 teams, 3 of them are Brest, Benfica, Aston Villa, I am not sure they will be in 8th position at the end of the standings. I am even more sure they will be eliminated. UCL now strong teams are required to fight at the beginning, this new format can be said to be difficult, teams that are not too dominant will be eliminated before entering the last 16. And regarding Madrid, Man City, Bayern Munich or Barcelona, I still think that one of them will lift the UCL trophy.
6 games X 3 points will make a total of 18 points, that's more that is going to be added to any of the team that win their 6 remaining matches and we know it's possible for any of the team to win all, even if there is it will take a lot of hard work to achieve such points, so there is chance for all the teams to reshuffle from where they are right now, expect Benfica, Dortmund and Liverpool to come to 5,6,7 and expect the ones at the place right now to go up.
I have said it previously that Bayern, Manchester City, Real Madrid and Barcelona don't have anything to worry. They will not end there, 6 matches is something they can take their chances and win their next match, they will not fall below the 8th place for the teams that will qualified to to the round of 16 and even if they couldn't and things are hard or any team that fall below the 8th place have the chance to do play off and when they play well there, they can still be qualified.
I think a draw is the most likely outcome, but looking at the odds it doesn't look like the match will end in a draw. If I had to choose, I would bet on Barcelona. I know they rely on young players and their defense can be a bit sloppy at times. But when it comes to scoring goals, it seems Barcelona is still one of the best at the moment. Barcelona will be playing at home, which is an advantage that should give them a win in this match.
I agree with you. I would also go for a draw or Barcelona win. We can't underestimate Munich because they are one of the top teams in Europe and they are in first place in the Bundesliga. But looking at their performance I think Barcelona is a little bit better. Barcelona has a very good attacking line and a midfielder who can create chances. But they have a little problem in defense and this could be a game changer if Kompany can see Barcelona's weaknesses. I would also bet on Barcelona to win this match.But the bookies have favored Barcelona in terms of the odds displayed now, maybe the one playing away will win.
Maybe my option when betting later will be both teams score or double chances.
I won't choose the single, so I'll put it into a parlay bet for another match.
I think a draw is the most likely outcome, but looking at the odds it doesn't look like the match will end in a draw. If I had to choose, I would bet on Barcelona. I know they rely on young players and their defense can be a bit sloppy at times. But when it comes to scoring goals, it seems Barcelona is still one of the best at the moment. Barcelona will be playing at home, which is an advantage that should give them a win in this match.
I agree with you. I would also go for a draw or Barcelona win. We can't underestimate Munich because they are one of the top teams in Europe and they are in first place in the Bundesliga. But looking at their performance I think Barcelona is a little bit better. Barcelona has a very good attacking line and a midfielder who can create chances. But they have a little problem in defense and this could be a game changer if Kompany can see Barcelona's weaknesses. I would also bet on Barcelona to win this match.I think, Barcelona's squad is not much different from last season but in this season, because Barcelona has a good manager like Hansi Flick, and then Barcelona's performance has also become better this season. Thus, basically Barcelona and Bayern Munich both have good squads but for me, the quality of their coaches is really a factor for their results to be good or bad. So, since I also think Hansi Flick is better and more experienced in handling big matches like this than Kompany, then I believe Barcelona have a better chance of winning than Bayern Munich. Although of course, any result can still happen but still, my prediction is also that at least Barcelona will not lose and are more likely to have a chance to win than a draw.
The rate for Barcelona seems much lower than Bayern Munich and this can be how people expect to see Bayern Munich wins this match against Barcelona. However, both coaches Flick and Kompaney had good starts so far in the games we saw from them they were much better than we were expected to see from these two.
Even if the odds rate lower for Barcelona, it doesn't mean Barcelona has no way to win the match. If we compare the coaches of Barcelona and Bayern Munich, I think Barcelona coach has a better experience in UCL match. Flick also knows well Bayern Munich since he ever managed the team. So, he must know how to deal with Bayern Munich game. Considering this, Flick should have a higher chance to win the match.But still, the fact about Kompany is he is not experienced in the harder games while the main weakness for Barcelona is not having experienced defenders.
It is true that Kompany has lack of experience in big matches as a manager. Especially in the big match in UCL.Well, I don't understand why you claimed Barcelona has lack of experienced defenders. I see Barcelona defenders are experienced enough, there are only few young defenders with lack of experience. But those young defenders have great skills. This is not the weakness of Barcelona.
I think a draw is the most likely outcome, but looking at the odds it doesn't look like the match will end in a draw. If I had to choose, I would bet on Barcelona. I know they rely on young players and their defense can be a bit sloppy at times. But when it comes to scoring goals, it seems Barcelona is still one of the best at the moment. Barcelona will be playing at home, which is an advantage that should give them a win in this match.
We don't know the exact result of the match. But I also agree that Barcelona seems to win the match. Barcelona will play at home, they also have great squad to beat Bayern Munich. Moreover, Barcelona has Lewandowski who knows very well Bayern Munich game. I believe Lewandowski is one of the keys to get full points from Bayern Munich.
On a brighter side I agree with him. PSG does not the right players to win the UCL league. Its not that they have a completely terrible players or bad performances. Their players are good enough to keep the team up and running but they need more better players to push the team forward. At least one or two players that can pressure and force the attack effectively.
Absolutely in their individual league they have been invincible, same with Monaco. If PSG cannot play better in the Champions League without Mbape being in the squad then i can barely say that they don't have any player that can be compared to Mbapae in terms of firing in the UCL.
Honestly there are many teams which had worse players that went to finals. Just look at Dortmund last season and you will see, sure they lost but they were at the finals and beat PSG, could you say PSG has worse team than that?Absolutely in their individual league they have been invincible, same with Monaco. If PSG cannot play better in the Champions League without Mbape being in the squad then i can barely say that they don't have any player that can be compared to Mbapae in terms of firing in the UCL.
Especially last season, when they lost to Dortmund, PSG had better team on paper without a doubt. This goes to show you teams do not matter when you look at them on paper, they matter when we are talking about how they are playing together.
Luis Enrique isn't a bad coach and I have belief in him to make this team a lot better than what they look like on paper.
Right now, they might be having some trouble because they are learning to play without Mbappe but they are going to get better each game and they are going to get used to playing without him and playing within the system. Or maybe he will be fired and some other coach will take over, but we are not going to see him be too terrible if you ask me and they will be fine.
I think a draw is the most likely outcome, but looking at the odds it doesn't look like the match will end in a draw. If I had to choose, I would bet on Barcelona. I know they rely on young players and their defense can be a bit sloppy at times. But when it comes to scoring goals, it seems Barcelona is still one of the best at the moment. Barcelona will be playing at home, which is an advantage that should give them a win in this match.
I agree with you. I would also go for a draw or Barcelona win. We can't underestimate Munich because they are one of the top teams in Europe and they are in first place in the Bundesliga. But looking at their performance I think Barcelona is a little bit better. Barcelona has a very good attacking line and a midfielder who can create chances. But they have a little problem in defense and this could be a game changer if Kompany can see Barcelona's weaknesses. I would also bet on Barcelona to win this match.It is still a team in progress under Flic, but I think it is safe to say that they are far more advanced than they have been last season. The one loss they now had in La Liga was rather due to the fact that they had several substitutes playing and they didn't come across as fresh and motivated as they did in most of the other games. I had the feeling that Flick made some mistakes and possibly didn't find the right words as a coach. To me it seemed to have been more of an accident than the beginning of a downtrend.
But if you compare this to Bayern Munich, things are quite different. Lost against Aston Villa and had two draws in a row in the Bundesliga. It were all tough games, but this is no excuse for a team like Bayern Munich to not win three consecutive games. And with this being said, Barcelona is definitely no easier than Leverkusen or Frankfurt or Aston Villa and they play in the Camp Nou.
What do you mean by PSG not having good quality players this season? Are you saying that Kylan Mbappe was the only quality player PSG had? Most of the key players of PSG like Dembele, Marco Asensio and Lucas Hernandez. These are still good players that are first squad even in their respective national teams. PSG is perfect in their local league just that they are yet to retain good status in European competition Although it is too early to say and I believe they still stand a chance at that because the competition is still very early.
Yes, they are good PSG players at the moment, maybe what he meant was the star players in it like Mbappe, Neymar or Messi while they are currently gone and the last one Mbappe left the team, he is the only star player who has a strong mentality among the others so that PSG's appearance in the UCL is not optimal, they are indeed not in doubt in the local league but in the UCL their chances are getting smaller than usual.We will have first challenging season for them in French League because things are on level and Monaco and Marseille both are bringing themselves to the level of PSG which is interested with fans will be also had first time good end of the season even still PSG is having good chance of win.
In Champions League, their chances are not good enough for have spot into last four because most chances we will have them into last 8 with their current squad need more time for have better results into this event.
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