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Quote from: uswa56 on September 08, 2022, 07:10:51 AM

Quote from: boltz on September 08, 2022, 05:00:13 AM

I was so right about Liverpool about a bad performance with Napoli and they had no answer to Napoli last night and I'm afraid they will have small chances to get out of groups. Maybe for some fans of Liverpool this will sound harsh but it's just the truth about how current team of Liverpool are playing on the pitch. Also , what is Klopp doing ? He lost a bit of his passion it seems.

it is not impossible that it will happen if Liverpool's performance continues like this, since the beginning of the season Liverpool have not found their best performance and even made them worse off with a crushing defeat against Napoli.
jurgen klopp must immediately improve and he must be able to raise the mentality of the team to be able to get up soon, the quality of the players actually Liverpool are not much different from last season even they brought in some quality players for this season but regarding Liverpool's current underperformance I think it's just a matter of mentality and chemistry the players and also I'm sure they will be able to bounce back, it's only a matter of time because in terms of quality they are still very good.

The problem is Liverpool don't have much time and some competition continues when Liverpool tried to find cohesiveness while the other teams have stepped forward Liverpool only have one new player should not be difficult to adapt and get chemistry. I wonder what really happened to Liverpool why their performance continued to decline Huh

I didn't hear a conflict right?

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on September 08, 2022, 06:45:48 AM

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Liverpool's odd to win the Champions League has increased to 8.00 after this result I assume. By the way, I find the odd for them to qualify from their group quite low now. My opinion about them has changed very much after seeing their terrible performance against Napoli last night. This performance level wouldn't be enough for continuing in this tournament. Napoli are already better than them as we saw it. Ajax are also in a very solid shape now. They crushed Rangers which shows that they have lost nothing of them after all that transfer activity.

Liverpool have a pretty difficult job to do against these two. I even started to think that the leader might be Ajax. Napoli and Liverpool would be in a fight to finish the group as the 2nd. It is early maybe but Liverpool have been like this for many weeks in the end. I'm having trust issues with them.

I think Napoli can beat Ajax, and they can be the group champions, eventhough Liverpool is not in their best form winning 4-1 against them is not an easy task. And I also think Liverpool still has quite a good chance against Ajax, they will share 1 point with Ajax, and the decider would be how many goals they can make against Rangers.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on September 08, 2022, 06:45:48 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on September 08, 2022, 05:15:09 AM

Bookmakers are still absolutely confident that Liverpool will advance from the group (it is even considered a favorite for 1st place).

UEFA Champions League 2022/23 - To Qualify From Group A - Liverpool FC

Yes 1,21 No 4,20

In my opinion, these are already crooked quotes. Napoli is strong, Ajax is too - literally one bad game against Ajax and the situation will become catastrophic because only victories will be needed further and the results of other matches will also matter. I won't bet against Liverpool, but their position is less reliable than the bookies think.

Liverpool's odd to win the Champions League has increased to 8.00 after this result I assume. By the way, I find the odd for them to qualify from their group quite low now. My opinion about them has changed very much after seeing their terrible performance against Napoli last night. This performance level wouldn't be enough for continuing in this tournament. Napoli are already better than them as we saw it. Ajax are also in a very solid shape now. They crushed Rangers which shows that they have lost nothing of them after all that transfer activity.

Liverpool have a pretty difficult job to do against these two. I even started to think that the leader might be Ajax. Napoli and Liverpool would be in a fight to finish the group as the 2nd. It is early maybe but Liverpool have been like this for many weeks in the end. I'm having trust issues with them.

Liverpool is a team that has an element of surprise. At the moment you think the game is against them, something happens. Although I feel the absence of Mane, in that his combination with Salah and Firmino had power. Salah is yet to get into gear, and the team in general can still happen to come out of the group A stage they are in. I see Napoli as the only strong contender and a likely team to qualify along with Liverpool out of the group stage too. I have no fear for Ajax, though they are one hell of a team. Jurgen klopp has taken the Champions league ride and knows the best tactics to deploy.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on September 08, 2022, 06:45:48 AM

Liverpool have a pretty difficult job to do against these two. I even started to think that the leader might be Ajax. Napoli and Liverpool would be in a fight to finish the group as the 2nd. It is early maybe but Liverpool have been like this for many weeks in the end. I'm having trust issues with them.

I agree with you regarding Liverpool but not for Ajax I favor Napoli as group winners while Ajax and Liverpool for 2nd place
Not without reason, because Ajax yesterday couldn't be said to be perfect because they were against a lower level team
I would agree Ajax win the group if they can beat Napoli or Liverpool in the next match.

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Quote from: boltz on September 08, 2022, 05:00:13 AM

I was so right about Liverpool about a bad performance with Napoli and they had no answer to Napoli last night and I'm afraid they will have small chances to get out of groups. Maybe for some fans of Liverpool this will sound harsh but it's just the truth about how current team of Liverpool are playing on the pitch. Also , what is Klopp doing ? He lost a bit of his passion it seems.

it is not impossible that it will happen if Liverpool's performance continues like this, since the beginning of the season Liverpool have not found their best performance and even made them worse off with a crushing defeat against Napoli.
jurgen klopp must immediately improve and he must be able to raise the mentality of the team to be able to get up soon, the quality of the players actually Liverpool are not much different from last season even they brought in some quality players for this season but regarding Liverpool's current underperformance I think it's just a matter of mentality and chemistry the players and also I'm sure they will be able to bounce back, it's only a matter of time because in terms of quality they are still very good.

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Quote from: KTChampions on September 08, 2022, 05:15:09 AM

Bookmakers are still absolutely confident that Liverpool will advance from the group (it is even considered a favorite for 1st place).

UEFA Champions League 2022/23 - To Qualify From Group A - Liverpool FC

Yes 1,21 No 4,20

In my opinion, these are already crooked quotes. Napoli is strong, Ajax is too - literally one bad game against Ajax and the situation will become catastrophic because only victories will be needed further and the results of other matches will also matter. I won't bet against Liverpool, but their position is less reliable than the bookies think.

Liverpool's odd to win the Champions League has increased to 8.00 after this result I assume. By the way, I find the odd for them to qualify from their group quite low now. My opinion about them has changed very much after seeing their terrible performance against Napoli last night. This performance level wouldn't be enough for continuing in this tournament. Napoli are already better than them as we saw it. Ajax are also in a very solid shape now. They crushed Rangers which shows that they have lost nothing of them after all that transfer activity.

Liverpool have a pretty difficult job to do against these two. I even started to think that the leader might be Ajax. Napoli and Liverpool would be in a fight to finish the group as the 2nd. It is early maybe but Liverpool have been like this for many weeks in the end. I'm having trust issues with them.

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Quote from: 8rch7 on September 08, 2022, 05:48:31 AM

Quote from: boltz on September 08, 2022, 05:00:13 AM

I was so right about Liverpool about a bad performance with Napoli and they had no answer to Napoli last night and I'm afraid they will have small chances to get out of groups. Maybe for some fans of Liverpool this will sound harsh but it's just the truth about how current team of Liverpool are playing on the pitch. Also , what is Klopp doing ? He lost a bit of his passion it seems.

Even though Liverpool were massacred by Napoli with a landslide score of 4-1, but I really believe Liverpool will be able to rise and make it through to the group phase, because there are still five games left, indeed currently many Liverpool star players are not at their previous level and have surely Liverpool fans feel disappointed with their performance which is still windy, but I still dare to place a bet for Liverpool to qualify for the Champions League group stage, wake up the reds whatever happens I always support you and always ready to place bets for your victory.

Liverpool was disappointed by their humiliation last night, they loss 4-1 and Jürgen Klopp was not happy with the results. It's a good result for as Naples with Luciano Spalleti using the right players for the game. Although, the two sides have quality players but yesterday game was much interesting to watch. Victor Osimhen have early chances in the game, one of his attempt hit the woodwork while the other was penalty which he missed the ball against Liverpool goalkeeper, Allison Becker. Liverpool was put under pressure during the first half, to my clear understanding, they Klopp didn't use the required players for the game, with James Milner been issued an early yellow card and also defaulter of penalty. Napoli have clear 3 points with Ajax. However, Liverpool next fixtures is Ajax, I hope they bounced back to winning ways.

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Quote from: 8rch7 on September 08, 2022, 05:48:31 AM

Quote from: boltz on September 08, 2022, 05:00:13 AM

I was so right about Liverpool about a bad performance with Napoli and they had no answer to Napoli last night and I'm afraid they will have small chances to get out of groups. Maybe for some fans of Liverpool this will sound harsh but it's just the truth about how current team of Liverpool are playing on the pitch. Also , what is Klopp doing ? He lost a bit of his passion it seems.

Even though Liverpool were massacred by Napoli with a landslide score of 4-1, but I really believe Liverpool will be able to rise and make it through to the group phase, because there are still five games left, indeed currently many Liverpool star players are not at their previous level and have surely Liverpool fans feel disappointed with their performance which is still windy, but I still dare to place a bet for Liverpool to qualify for the Champions League group stage, wake up the reds whatever happens I always support you and always ready to place bets for your victory.

Yes Liverpool still have a chance to qualify because Liverpool still have some home games here they can take advantage
But from some bad results I wouldn't expect Liverpool to do as well as last season I guess they will be eliminated before reaching the top 8
Yesterday's defeat was proof that they had a weakness in defense.

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Quote from: boltz on September 08, 2022, 05:00:13 AM

I was so right about Liverpool about a bad performance with Napoli and they had no answer to Napoli last night and I'm afraid they will have small chances to get out of groups. Maybe for some fans of Liverpool this will sound harsh but it's just the truth about how current team of Liverpool are playing on the pitch. Also , what is Klopp doing ? He lost a bit of his passion it seems.

Even though Liverpool were massacred by Napoli with a landslide score of 4-1, but I really believe Liverpool will be able to rise and make it through to the group phase, because there are still five games left, indeed currently many Liverpool star players are not at their previous level and have surely Liverpool fans feel disappointed with their performance which is still windy, but I still dare to place a bet for Liverpool to qualify for the Champions League group stage, wake up the reds whatever happens I always support you and always ready to place bets for your victory.

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Quote from: boltz on September 08, 2022, 05:00:13 AM

I was so right about Liverpool about a bad performance with Napoli and they had no answer to Napoli last night and I'm afraid they will have small chances to get out of groups. Maybe for some fans of Liverpool this will sound harsh but it's just the truth about how current team of Liverpool are playing on the pitch. Also , what is Klopp doing ? He lost a bit of his passion it seems.

I think that Klopp is one of the best coaches in the world of football because he is able to really improve the performance of every team that he is coaching. Those teams are then performing stronger then the squads actually are. In my opinion he is able to do this because he is just such a nice dude that gets along so well with everyone and he is a great communicator. This means that his players are really giving 100% for him in every match. This was the case at Borussia Dortmund where a team of no-names was able to win the Bundesliga title two times in a row and reach the final of the Champions League.
Now it is the same with Liverpool. He made a mediocre Premier League to a club win the league and even the Champions League.
If a team always has to give 100% in order to be successful though there is only a very small margin for things that can go wrong before the team stops being successful, which is now the case at the moment.

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Quote from: boltz on September 08, 2022, 05:00:13 AM

I was so right about Liverpool about a bad performance with Napoli and they had no answer to Napoli last night and I'm afraid they will have small chances to get out of groups. Maybe for some fans of Liverpool this will sound harsh but it's just the truth about how current team of Liverpool are playing on the pitch. Also , what is Klopp doing ? He lost a bit of his passion it seems.

Bookmakers are still absolutely confident that Liverpool will advance from the group (it is even considered a favorite for 1st place).

UEFA Champions League 2022/23 - To Qualify From Group A - Liverpool FC

Yes 1,21 No 4,20

In my opinion, these are already crooked quotes. Napoli is strong, Ajax is too - literally one bad game against Ajax and the situation will become catastrophic because only victories will be needed further and the results of other matches will also matter. I won't bet against Liverpool, but their position is less reliable than the bookies think.

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I was so right about Liverpool about a bad performance with Napoli and they had no answer to Napoli last night and I'm afraid they will have small chances to get out of groups. Maybe for some fans of Liverpool this will sound harsh but it's just the truth about how current team of Liverpool are playing on the pitch. Also , what is Klopp doing ? He lost a bit of his passion it seems.

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I was waiting for a draw before the Napoli - Liverpool match started. Maybe Liverpool were doing bad in the EPL but I was still thinking positive about them in this arena. However things didn't go the way most of us expected. Liverpool maintained their poor performance. They were defensively terrible above all else. I haven't seen them this much weak in defense for a long time. Napoli players were able to get past the defenders easily. I don't think that Klopp has changed anything in the team. So what is dragging them down this much?

The season is long of course but Klopp needs to start getting good results if he doesn't want to be sacked. Liverpool have had a great run with him so far. This season didn't start well and it is very similar to the season Manchester City had in the past. They were also terrible at first but the second half of the season was completely different. So maybe it can be the same for Liverpool also who knows.

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^ Good read. Napoli is up by three goals in just the first half. And judging by the body language of Klopp's boys, you feeling like they're kinda mentally done for the match. Exit the stream and enter Inter vs Bayern Munich match... Lol. And this match up is little bit better.

I think this is the season that we could fade Liverpool in some spots from a betting perspective and make a little bit of change. Like if Liverpool was going to play vs Brentford in the EPL, I think that would be a good spot to go for Brenford as the underdog. What do you think?

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I had no luck last night on UCL but I was so close to hit 15x odds but PSG didn't want to make 1 more corner Sad

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Today might be that day where Liverpool and Bayern might have problems with Italian teams because Inter must finally show that they are capable of doing great games in UCL because last 3 years have been awful for them in UCL and Napoli , surprising or not , they are in a great shape and Liverpool aren't. I could also see a draw on ATL.Madrid - Porto or even a win from Porto just because it seems the era of ATL.Madrid is on a big back foot.

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Feeling ultra proud of myself last night.

Put 5 long odds bets and 2 of them hit, should have counted on teams from Ukraine and Croatia to make my day eh?

This one is the best of the lot: Leipzig losing for over 12/1.
Chelsea losing for over 8/1.
Doesn't matter I lost the bets against Real, City and PSG. Made a very nifty 15x profit.

P.S. I guess it's normal that the other non-moderated thread where spam is alive and well is what's popular eh, haha.

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If we are talking about the winner of this season I'd also like to say something about it.

I had some difficulties in making a choice between Manchester City and PSG for the title. Because I believe that this is the year for one of these teams finally. No matter which one of them makes it, it's going to be for the first time as you know. The reason why I didn't go for PSG is that I have some doubts about their new manager Galtier. Because he is quite inexperienced for the Champions League. I know that he experienced this place before but he doesn't have any striking success with a team. On the other hand, Manchester City have completed their squad with a great striker like Haaland. Together with Guardiola's tactics this time it can really be their time. We all remember how they were eliminated by Real Madrid last season so I hope they won't have a similar result after this unpleasant experience.

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Who will lift the Champions League 2022/23 trophy?
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all are possible,
Liverpool v Istanbul Miracle II
I like that one, but how about a team like Rangers winning the UCL, : ) we are already preparing ourselves by reading additional data that inspires to be against the odds, so let's leave the adjective miracle for Rangers, watch out for this team.

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Exactly one week from now, the group matches are officially starting.

It looks like PSG - Juventus is going to be the first big match of the season. PSG are going to play their first Champions League match with Galtier. Their start to the season in the Ligue 1 has been really impressive. Galtier made some changes in the tactic and they are getting efficiency from it very much. On the other hand their opponents so far haven't been challenging of course. Galtier is under pressure of winning the Champions League title and we will see how good he will handle this throughout the season.

When it comes to Juventus' current condition they don't seem sharp. They are having problems with having comfortable wins these days and their last two matches ended in draws. They had many chances against Roma but they were lacking the capability of finding the target many times. It is more related to their midfield. Pogba isn't expected to return before Sep 12 so they might struggle against PSG there.

Considering all of this, I'm planning to bet on PSG to win. Over 2.5 goals might also be a very good option as PSG are very productive recently.

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