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September 20, 2019, 09:38:20 AM
Real Madrid should worry about their future. I Don't think on this season Madrid will won a single trophy with this kind of performance. Zidane should change his tactics because current tactics Isn't working.Also some injuries causing great harms to the sqaud.
                

Things like this that are worried by supporters of Real Madrid. Like it or not They will be without any title this season again, Real Madrid's decline is very drastic at this time. To be sure their core players (who are currently injured) greatly affect the overall game of Real Madrid.

And now they are already questioning Zidane, the coach that won the CL with them three times already. They have to admit that they were depending on CR7 more than they thought. After he left, Real is struggling really hard.
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September 20, 2019, 09:27:59 AM
Real Madrid should worry about their future. I Don't think on this season Madrid will won a single trophy with this kind of performance. Zidane should change his tactics because current tactics Isn't working.Also some injuries causing great harms to the sqaud. PSG without Mbappe and Neymar scored 3 Against Real. Di Maria was superb on the pitch, scored a brace.
                
It seems that after losing Ronaldo, Real Madrid lost its role play. they don't have fangs when they compete with a big team. it's not about VAR or something.
they need to change their tactics, and of course add more good players. if they want to win the trophy then zidane needs more star players in their squad.
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September 20, 2019, 09:20:02 AM
Regarding Dinamo Zagreb being 2nd in the group, while being possible, i don't think that it will happen. They have good chance for being 3rd though and continuing in Europa league. That would also be a very good result.

But maybe i'm just too cautious  as i got used to disappointments when it comes to Dinamo Zagreb and Euro games, i would say that this generation is even better than the one in the late 90s with Viduka, Prosinecki, Cvitanovic..

Why not Dinamo Zagreb can be second in the group? Obviously City is without a doubt the first place favorite, but Atalanta is joke team, they play worst football you can see in CL, and City is win over Shakhtar without any problems, as it is a light training, and not a CL game.

Dinamo can beat Shakhtar in home game, and take at least one point in away game, probably also play a draw in Bergamo. With 8 points second place is pretty realistic, but first they need to play with MC in Manchester, this will be good test for them.

I've been going to Dinamo Zagreb games since 1992, and more than once i had high hopes, but somehow they managed to mess it up each year, with 2 exceptions, in the late 90s and last year.

That being said, this Dinamo Zagreb really looks confident, more mature and a team with a plan. Dinamo always had very talented players, but this year  they managed to keep all their best players except Sunjic who they sold way to cheap (imho he was 2nd or 3rd most important Dinamo player). I didn't say that they cant be 2nd, of course they can, but personally i think it would be very hard and for me 3rd spot would be good too. Atalanta played awful game and Dinamo was brilliant, but Dinamo can also play like crap, and i simply don't want to be caught in euphoria after only 1 round.
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September 20, 2019, 08:52:16 AM
Despite the loss suffered by Real will qualify to the second round because it has special players I think the reason for their collapse against Paris is the absence of Ramos and Marcelo.As for Zidane, he knows very well the roles he will play in the future,  We will follow together what will happen in the future.

Special players does not win games, a functioning team does, this begins from the technical aspect of the game, which Zidane got totally wrong in Paris. And no team is guaranteed qualification. This current UCL campaign promises lots of surprises and upsets.

On notable absentees, PSG were equally missing important players in key roles, so that is not really an excuse for the loss.
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September 20, 2019, 08:43:48 AM
We can see Zidane being gone by end of October if two or three more results go wrong, especialy if they lose against Atletico.
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September 20, 2019, 08:09:33 AM
Regarding Dinamo Zagreb being 2nd in the group, while being possible, i don't think that it will happen. They have good chance for being 3rd though and continuing in Europa league. That would also be a very good result.

But maybe i'm just too cautious  as i got used to disappointments when it comes to Dinamo Zagreb and Euro games, i would say that this generation is even better than the one in the late 90s with Viduka, Prosinecki, Cvitanovic..

Why not Dinamo Zagreb can be second in the group? Obviously City is without a doubt the first place favorite, but Atalanta is joke team, they play worst football you can see in CL, and City is win over Shakhtar without any problems, as it is a light training, and not a CL game.

Dinamo can beat Shakhtar in home game, and take at least one point in away game, probably also play a draw in Bergamo. With 8 points second place is pretty realistic, but first they need to play with MC in Manchester, this will be good test for them.
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September 20, 2019, 07:21:10 AM
Real Madrid should worry about their future. I Don't think on this season Madrid will won a single trophy with this kind of performance. Zidane should change his tactics because current tactics Isn't working.Also some injuries causing great harms to the sqaud.
                

Things like this that are worried by supporters of Real Madrid. Like it or not They will be without any title this season again, Real Madrid's decline is very drastic at this time. To be sure their core players (who are currently injured) greatly affect the overall game of Real Madrid.
Despite the loss suffered by Real will qualify to the second round because it has special players I think the reason for their collapse against Paris is the absence of Ramos and Marcelo.As for Zidane, he knows very well the roles he will play in the future,  We will follow together what will happen in the future.
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September 20, 2019, 06:59:45 AM
Real Madrid should worry about their future. I Don't think on this season Madrid will won a single trophy with this kind of performance. Zidane should change his tactics because current tactics Isn't working.Also some injuries causing great harms to the sqaud.
                

Things like this that are worried by supporters of Real Madrid. Like it or not They will be without any title this season again, Real Madrid's decline is very drastic at this time. To be sure their core players (who are currently injured) greatly affect the overall game of Real Madrid.
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September 20, 2019, 06:49:20 AM
Real Madrid should worry about their future. I Don't think on this season Madrid will won a single trophy with this kind of performance. Zidane should change his tactics because current tactics Isn't working.Also some injuries causing great harms to the sqaud. PSG without Mbappe and Neymar scored 3 Against Real. Di Maria was superb on the pitch, scored a brace.
                
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September 20, 2019, 03:56:06 AM
Paris did a great job yesterday but the thing with the VAR is like the law in Balkan countries,it is applied on poor people without support and rich ones get away by bribing the officials.

When Paris asked for VAR it was given to them by the referee and it was correct to void the goal however when Real scored a regular goal because Benzema didn’t touch the ball the VAR was not given to Real.I am not saying Paris did not deserve to win they played better than Real all the time but I want to point out we have still flaws in the system.
Of course VAR is still in its infancy and therefore now and then we shall be seeing flaws but i don't think there was anything awful about VAR in yesterday's match.

I am a Real Madrid Fan, and we really deserved the loss even by a bigger margin... and i don't think Real Madrid is "poor" in comparison to PSG  Cheesy

It honors you saying this words and the likes of RM and Barca in the first matchday once again shows that "spending big money" is not always a guarantee for success since Barca basically had similar stats than RM with 0 shots on goal, only have they been lucky (and ter Stegen) that avoided Dortmund to win this 2:0 or 3:0 as well.
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September 20, 2019, 03:48:17 AM
I do not agree with Pmalek about Khedira.
The fact that Juve has 5 goals with Napoli and Atletico from 3 to 0 towards 3 to 3 and from 2 to 0 to 2 to 2, is not due to Khedira's replacement.
Four of these five goals (like many others were taken during the preseason) are practically the same. They are goals taken from a standing kick.
I did not say it is because Khedira got substituted, but it is just an interesting coincidence.

In the Napoli game it is very clear who made the mistakes. De Ligt. Look at the Lozano goal and De Ligts movements. He is not looking at his opponents, he is only watching the ball and he allowed Lozano to get in behind his back.

Set piece situations are the main problem, you are right. They are simply not defending them properly. 2 goals vs Napoli and 2 vs Atletico from set pieces. That is too much and has to be addressed as soon as possible in training.   
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September 20, 2019, 01:46:00 AM
Paris did a great job yesterday but the thing with the VAR is like the law in Balkan countries,it is applied on poor people without support and rich ones get away by bribing the officials.

When Paris asked for VAR it was given to them by the referee and it was correct to void the goal however when Real scored a regular goal because Benzema didn’t touch the ball the VAR was not given to Real.I am not saying Paris did not deserve to win they played better than Real all the time but I want to point out we have still flaws in the system.

What are you talking about? Real Madrid isn't a "poor" club and it's silly to think about that. Asking for a referee for a VAR will always depend on how he views things if it's really necessary and the referees have their own biases towards every given situation sometimes if he isn't sure about the play then he could personally ask for VAR, if you have proof that there is a bribe going on then I'll believe you but just by trusting your word about it would just make you look like a salty fan believing that their team lose because the referee is favoring the other team.

VAR is still something that will be 50-50 in my books. First think that winning team will say that its great, second loosing will say its suck.
For me this is something that ruin football, why, referee is now more on the what will VAR room say when he is having doubt. For me this have lose edge in sport. Its normal that referee make mistake but with this they made even more mistakes. Maybe im wrong but think its majority here who will take this same as Me.
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September 19, 2019, 05:40:14 PM
Paris did a great job yesterday but the thing with the VAR is like the law in Balkan countries,it is applied on poor people without support and rich ones get away by bribing the officials.

When Paris asked for VAR it was given to them by the referee and it was correct to void the goal however when Real scored a regular goal because Benzema didn’t touch the ball the VAR was not given to Real.I am not saying Paris did not deserve to win they played better than Real all the time but I want to point out we have still flaws in the system.
Of course VAR is still in its infancy and therefore now and then we shall be seeing flaws but i don't think there was anything awful about VAR in yesterday's match.

I am a Real Madrid Fan, and we really deserved the loss even by a bigger margin... and i don't think Real Madrid is "poor" in comparison to PSG  Cheesy
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September 19, 2019, 02:06:14 PM
Paris did a great job yesterday but the thing with the VAR is like the law in Balkan countries,it is applied on poor people without support and rich ones get away by bribing the officials.

When Paris asked for VAR it was given to them by the referee and it was correct to void the goal however when Real scored a regular goal because Benzema didn’t touch the ball the VAR was not given to Real.I am not saying Paris did not deserve to win they played better than Real all the time but I want to point out we have still flaws in the system.

What are you talking about? Real Madrid isn't a "poor" club and it's silly to think about that. Asking for a referee for a VAR will always depend on how he views things if it's really necessary and the referees have their own biases towards every given situation sometimes if he isn't sure about the play then he could personally ask for VAR, if you have proof that there is a bribe going on then I'll believe you but just by trusting your word about it would just make you look like a salty fan believing that their team lose because the referee is favoring the other team.
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September 19, 2019, 12:41:27 PM
Incredible first half in Zagreb, Dinamo is completely dominating Atalanta and leads 3:0.

I knew that Dinamo will have chance against Atalanta but i didn't see this coming. They are good team, with one of the best  young players in Europe ( Dani Olmo) but i didn't expect this. I really hope they can continue like that in the 2nd half.

Bare in mind, Atalanta finished 3rd last season in Serie A, while scoring most goals (77) , so they are far from bad team, and that shows how good Dinamo Zagreb can be.




On the end, 4:0 for Dinamo Zagreb  Grin Grin
I believed that Dinamo have chances in this game but this was beyond all expectations.
Now they seem to have a very good chance of being second in the group, behind Manchester.
Olmo is a fantastic player and will soon be worth much more than the current € 40 million euros.
Watch him carefully!
Italian football, with the exception of Juventus, seems to be in deep crisis already long time.



Regarding Dinamo Zagreb being 2nd in the group, while being possible, i don't think that it will happen. They have good chance for being 3rd though and continuing in Europa league. That would also be a very good result.

But maybe i'm just too cautious  as i got used to disappointments when it comes to Dinamo Zagreb and Euro games, i would say that this generation is even better than the one in the late 90s with Viduka, Prosinecki, Cvitanovic..
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September 19, 2019, 12:29:53 PM
Real and PSG will qualify together man, Galatasaray and Brugge literally has no chance surviving in that group and they will race for the UEFA cup for sure, if one of them becomes the third team they will be happy that their European tournament life continues and will not go back home.


I am very happy with predictions like this. Not happy if this happened, but if it did not happen. Galatasaray and Brugge are not favorites to pass the next round. They might surprise you later, that's what I feared from your prediction. Even PSG or Real Madrid also have a chance not to qualify, so we just enjoy every moment.
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September 19, 2019, 11:59:51 AM

Anyway, I had a good first two nights. LOST 2 parlays in a row (thanks Liverpool and Real, but also Juventus and Barca, none could win!). Also lost a Lille upset but won my 10/1 Lokomotiv bet to put me in very good profit.

Now who said the group stages were predictable eh?
I still think the group stages are very much predictable because if we go back to some of the teams mentioned like take Liverpool....I think this one was a tough one because they had too much on their plate,first they had and have to defend their UEFA title and secondly they are epl leaders who have a tough match over the weekend which are says they played under pressure and I see these guys to be slow starters in such competitions.

Real Madrid well the Ronaldo magic is missing and playing against a PSG side that looks hungry for such a trophy they stood no chance knowing they aren't in their best of forms.
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September 19, 2019, 11:54:27 AM
Real and PSG will qualify together man, Galatasaray and Brugge literally has no chance surviving in that group and they will race for the UEFA cup for sure, if one of them becomes the third team they will be happy that their European tournament life continues and will not go back home.

PSG and Real will however not even worry about what they will do, of course they worry about the future parts of the cup but for now they are not even caring up this part of it since they know they will be first or second, the worst thing for them would be being second at this point since that would mean they will face a better rival on the next round. Yeah maybe PSG won against Real Madrid but do you really think Galatasaray or Brugge could beat Real madrid in the next games?
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September 19, 2019, 11:40:16 AM
On the first matchday Napoli made an upset win against Liverpool. Truly a disappointing thing to see for any Liverpool fan out here watching their first match in the Champions League. Napoli took advantage of their mistakes and turned it into quick goals. The first one was an awful defending made by Robertson that lead to theam having a penalty and the second one was really a careless move of thinking that even if its the full time they could be careless as much as possible. If I'm a Liverpool fan I would trult be disappointed in this upset win for Napoli.
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September 19, 2019, 11:24:06 AM
Incredible first half in Zagreb, Dinamo is completely dominating Atalanta and leads 3:0.

I knew that Dinamo will have chance against Atalanta but i didn't see this coming. They are good team, with one of the best  young players in Europe ( Dani Olmo) but i didn't expect this. I really hope they can continue like that in the 2nd half.

Bare in mind, Atalanta finished 3rd last season in Serie A, while scoring most goals (77) , so they are far from bad team, and that shows how good Dinamo Zagreb can be.




On the end, 4:0 for Dinamo Zagreb  Grin Grin
I believed that Dinamo have chances in this game but this was beyond all expectations.
Now they seem to have a very good chance of being second in the group, behind Manchester.
Olmo is a fantastic player and will soon be worth much more than the current € 40 million euros.
Watch him carefully!
Italian football, with the exception of Juventus, seems to be in deep crisis already long time.

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