UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 19.

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Quote from: rozak on June 11, 2022, 09:28:11 AM

Quote from: mamesso on June 11, 2022, 12:53:33 AM

I think Zidane is very suitable to be in PSG coaching chair to be successful in the Champions League.

maybe Pochettino is not right to coach PSG, a club with many star players. The news of Zidane's arrival at PSG is getting stronger now. but Zidane's agent denied the news. there is no agreement between the two. but seeing Zidane coach PSG, of course, is very good for players, clubs, and fans who long for the European Champions League title.

I don't know if this is going to be last year's never-ending news story? PSG want something they want which is not possible because they play with so much money that the bid will be higher than before, imagine if PSG won the UCL this season maybe it would be the first achievement that has spent a lot of money so far but it will be satisfied because they can win.

Actually Pochettino is not quite right in my view, but PSG must find a good coach so that tactics can change the squad, but will Pochettino be given another chance?

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Quote from: rozak on June 11, 2022, 09:28:11 AM

Quote from: mamesso on June 11, 2022, 12:53:33 AM

I think Zidane is very suitable to be in PSG coaching chair to be successful in the Champions League.

maybe Pochettino is not right to coach PSG, a club with many star players. The news of Zidane's arrival at PSG is getting stronger now. but Zidane's agent denied the news. there is no agreement between the two. but seeing Zidane coach PSG, of course, is very good for players, clubs, and fans who long for the European Champions League title.

I think this issue should really happen. Zidane's reputation has proven capable of presenting the Champions title while still coaching Real Madrid. With the squad now owned by PSG, I don't think it will be difficult to present the Champions League title because there are several players who have already subscribed to the Champions League, such as Leonel Messi. Maybe this is another reason why Mbappe wants to stay with PSG, namely the party wants Upcoming Coach Zidane Zidan

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Quote from: mamesso on June 11, 2022, 12:53:33 AM

I think Zidane is very suitable to be in PSG coaching chair to be successful in the Champions League.

maybe Pochettino is not right to coach PSG, a club with many star players. The news of Zidane's arrival at PSG is getting stronger now. but Zidane's agent denied the news. there is no agreement between the two. but seeing Zidane coach PSG, of course, is very good for players, clubs, and fans who long for the European Champions League title.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 11, 2022, 12:12:03 AM

Yes indeed when Ronaldo was still playing with him, Benzema was always able to compete. After Ronaldo decided to leave he was the only player who was consistent with his goals. I don't mean to compare the two, because both are equally good players even though there are some things that each one of them lacks. The potential of players who can replace his role does exist, but for now there is no visible player who really stands out.

After Ronaldo left the team, Benzema became his worthy replacement. And in the last few seasons he has been consistently performing well. But Real Madrid are unlikely to find a worthy replacement after Benzema leaves the team. Mbappe or Haaland could have been worthy substitutes, but Real Madrid have failed to sign both players. Vinicius will probably be Real Madrid's most important player after Benzema leaves the team

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Quote from: lulumiya on June 10, 2022, 05:16:46 PM

I don't think that PSG's still not winning any Champions League title is related to Neymar or any other player now. The problem must be their current management style. I wouldn't like to put it like Pochettino is a bad coach of course. I really like him as a coach normally but I just don't think that PSG are the right team for him. He has been successful in the Ligue 1 but it isn't the same when it comes to the Champions League. I hope to see them reaching an agreement with a new coach for this reason.

All of PSG players have no doubt of quality, the PSG squad is already filled with top players on all fronts, the biggest problem facing PSG because it has not been able to win the Champions League even though it already has the best squad. The role of the coach is very vital in a club, the coach also determines the tactics that will be used by his team when competing. The coach must be good at concocting players who will compete, so that his tactics become effective and efficient. PSG need a coach who is mature at European level and able to think to succeed the team he leads in every match, I think Zidane is very suitable to be in PSG coaching chair to be successful in the Champions League.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on June 10, 2022, 10:14:54 PM

Quote from: MrcMrc on June 10, 2022, 08:33:29 AM

I saw Benzema leaving real Madrid although this will be a big advantage to the club that will buy that star player, Real Madrid will need to replace the position Benzema is leaving. I see a lot of new players that have great potential to put Real Madrid in the 1st spot next season.

Well,I don't think Benzema will be leaving Real Madrid anytime sooner,he has been an incredible player at the club since he was bought,and according to Ronaldo,he said Benzema is the best nine he has ever played with in his career,because even when Christiano Ronaldo was at Real Madrid scoring goals,Benzima was also scoring goals,to show that he was a good attacker.Then when Ronaldo left,all the goals has to be him again.
He has done a good job for Real Madrid,but despite that,I don't see the French man leaving his club now.

Yes indeed when Ronaldo was still playing with him, Benzema was always able to compete. After Ronaldo decided to leave he was the only player who was consistent with his goals. I don't mean to compare the two, because both are equally good players even though there are some things that each one of them lacks. The potential of players who can replace his role does exist, but for now there is no visible player who really stands out.

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Quote from: lulumiya on June 10, 2022, 05:16:46 PM

I don't think that PSG's still not winning any Champions League title is related to Neymar or any other player now. The problem must be their current management style. I wouldn't like to put it like Pochettino is a bad coach of course. I really like him as a coach normally but I just don't think that PSG are the right team for him. He has been successful in the Ligue 1 but it isn't the same when it comes to the Champions League. I hope to see them reaching an agreement with a new coach for this reason.

From season to season, Paris Saint Germain has always been strengthened by players with star labels, especially this season. But that alone is not enough to bring them to success at a higher stage like the Champions League. Having a lot of star players doesn't guarantee they can get it as long as they don't make big changes. I think it's better to have less flashy players as long as they have the mentality to go higher.

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Quote from: MrcMrc on June 10, 2022, 08:33:29 AM

I saw Benzema leaving real Madrid although this will be a big advantage to the club that will buy that star player, Real Madrid will need to replace the position Benzema is leaving. I see a lot of new players that have great potential to put Real Madrid in the 1st spot next season.

Well,I don't think Benzema will be leaving Real Madrid anytime sooner,he has been an incredible player at the club since he was bought,and according to Ronaldo,he said Benzema is the best nine he has ever played with in his career,because even when Christiano Ronaldo was at Real Madrid scoring goals,Benzima was also scoring goals,to show that he was a good attacker.Then when Ronaldo left,all the goals has to be him again.
He has done a good job for Real Madrid,but despite that,I don't see the French man leaving his club now.

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Quote from: lulumiya on June 10, 2022, 05:16:46 PM

I don't think that PSG's still not winning any Champions League title is related to Neymar or any other player now. The problem must be their current management style. I wouldn't like to put it like Pochettino is a bad coach of course. I really like him as a coach normally but I just don't think that PSG are the right team for him. He has been successful in the Ligue 1 but it isn't the same when it comes to the Champions League. I hope to see them reaching an agreement with a new coach for this reason.

It is not wise if PSG's failure to win the Champions League trophy was due to the poor performance of their star players. Because PSG's star players
depend on the strategy instructed by Pochettino as PSG's main coach. And it is proven that Pochettino failed to make PSG players work well together,
therefore I saw PSG playing not having good teamwork, this finally made PSG eliminated from the Champions League. So it's better for PSG
to replace Pochettino with another coach who is even better, because so far Pochettino has failed to make PSG play well. Even in Ligue 1,
PSG often lose against teams that are much weaker.

Therefore, PSG management is reportedly trying to find a new coach to replace Pochettino. In my opinion, the strongest candidate is Zidane who can
make PSG win the Champions League trophy. The problem is Zidane has yet to accept PSG's offer, and hopefully PSG management can persuade Zidane
to become PSG's main coach next season.

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Quote from: naira on June 10, 2022, 11:36:20 AM

Quote from: Wiwo on June 09, 2022, 01:10:28 PM

Real Madrid has achieved a good record for itself with 14 championship titles and to a great extent, if they continue with proper players' transfers, the club will still retain the trophy 🏆 in the next season. For the main time let real Madrid enjoy their winning and also preparation for next season since that is the next step forward for all clubs.

What Real Madrid do is always have the precision in choosing players who are ready for the big games. And next season will definitely be a lot of player changes which they are trying to add to the scheme to keep it stable. Benzema certainly will not last more than one season, and even then if you look at his contract at Real Madrid which has been extended by one year until 2023, it may not be as productive as it is now. Madrid will prepare a striker so that he can be a qualified alternative.

Oh, yes, Real Madrid must find a new lifesaver in case of unforeseen problems with defense or attacking actions Wink

No matter what anyone says, but this season has been incomparable for Benzema and it is not at all a fact that Benzema's age and physical form next season will allow us to do those incredible things that we were lucky to see with our own eyes. On the one hand, this is a certain degree of disrespect for a great player when the need to acquire someone to replace him is openly discussed. On the other hand, this is the flip side of the coin of playing in a big club, when the club should not depend on the actions of a single player.

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Quote from: suryana on June 10, 2022, 05:00:28 AM

I don't think Messi's era is over yet he can still play 2-3 more years but for his contribution to PSG, the quality of Lionel Messi is still not visible, but it's different from the Argentine national team where his contribution really gives positive results for the Tango Team, because we know that Messi is still under the shadow of Neymar and Mbappe so that it affects his performance at the club located in the city of Paris,

He surely can play for 2-3 years more if his fitness is still good. But I heard he sometimes has a problem with injury, which makes him can't play with his best in PSG. Anyway, we can't compare his performance in PSG and in Argentina national team, it is very different. In the national team, he is very familiar with all players because they played together for many years already. While in PSG, all players aren't really familiar and there is a problem with players' compactness.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on June 09, 2022, 06:23:53 PM

I absolutely agree with the opinions about Messi that his era has ended. Barcelona were really struggling already while he was playing there. I mean the last year he played for them for example. Messi was trying to take full responsibility for carrying the team but it wasn't helping them still. His performance was still great then though but he hasn't been like shining at PSG so far. He had serious problems on adapting to them in the first times but he is better these days. He is still not like the old Messi but it is normal as he is aging also.

I don't think Messi's era is over yet he can still play 2-3 more years but for his contribution to PSG, the quality of Lionel Messi is still not visible, but it's different from the Argentine national team where his contribution really gives positive results for the Tango Team, because we know that Messi is still under the shadow of Neymar and Mbappe so that it affects his performance at the club located in the city of Paris, perhaps his departure from Barcelona is inseparable from the financial crisis experienced by the Catalan club so that they can no longer afford to pay super expensive salaries.requested by Lionel Messi himself so that Barcelona decided to release him to PSG in the midst of Barcelona's own financial crisis

Of course he would play for at least two or three years but I actually wanted to underline that his golden age has ended already. He was doing incredible at Barcelona until being transferred by PSG at the beginning of this season. This changed things a lot for him. There was a completely new team and game strategy to adapt to. I think this caused Messi to start playing more comfortable compared to his being very challenging in the past. However I don't expect him to play like in the old times too.

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Quote from: hahay on June 10, 2022, 08:17:50 AM

But somehow, at that time Liverpool were the favourites and that reflected in the odds and yes, in the end Real Madrid really had quality and it wasn't just about luck.

I was one of Liverpool's favorites in the final. but unfortunately, Liverpool lost the moment of fighting for the most prestigious trophy in mainland Europe.
Madrid looked overwhelmed when they had to lose several times in the first leg against a strong team. but Madrid showed a winning mentality with a comeback that took Madrid to the final. I believe it's not luck. Madrid does have the quality of the game to win.
in a final featuring only 1 leg, I hope Madrid is not that strong. vinicius became a player who buried Liverpool's hopes.

No liverpool fans was happy following their defeat in the the champions league final, but that's football, looking at the roll Liverpool were on at the time,one would picked liverpool to be the champion. Liverpool's game wasn't bad they actually had many chances that should have resulted to goals but they couldn't place them.

That's for sure because it will be very hard to accept when they have continued to win even since the group stage but losing once so painfully it is very clear that this will be a deep disappointment.
But in this case it's all over and disappointments like this must be eliminated because they also have to prepare for the next season so it's not good to let things like this continue.

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I don't think that PSG's still not winning any Champions League title is related to Neymar or any other player now. The problem must be their current management style. I wouldn't like to put it like Pochettino is a bad coach of course. I really like him as a coach normally but I just don't think that PSG are the right team for him. He has been successful in the Ligue 1 but it isn't the same when it comes to the Champions League. I hope to see them reaching an agreement with a new coach for this reason.

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Quote from: eightdots on June 09, 2022, 05:01:00 PM

PSG can't get the trophy because of Neymar. I very much want Neymar to win the champions league trophy. But this guy has no chance. Even if Messi and Ronalda are in PSG, they still can't win the trophy. Because Neymar's bad luck is the biggest of all.

Are you sure of what you are saying bud?

Neymar hasn't won any single trophy because of the bad luck he has? You must be someone so superstitious.
Or under looking his achievements including the recent trophies he won with PSG

These are the trophies he has won so far;

Source: https://www.neymarjr.com/es/futbol/neymar-jr-13-years-professional-athlete

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Quote from: naira on June 10, 2022, 11:36:20 AM

Quote from: Wiwo on June 09, 2022, 01:10:28 PM

Real Madrid has achieved a good record for itself with 14 championship titles and to a great extent, if they continue with proper players' transfers, the club will still retain the trophy 🏆 in the next season. For the main time let real Madrid enjoy their winning and also preparation for next season since that is the next step forward for all clubs.

What Real Madrid do is always have the precision in choosing players who are ready for the big games. And next season will definitely be a lot of player changes which they are trying to add to the scheme to keep it stable. Benzema certainly will not last more than one season, and even then if you look at his contract at Real Madrid which has been extended by one year until 2023, it may not be as productive as it is now. Madrid will prepare a striker so that he can be a qualified alternative.

So far Madrid have only added 2 players there, namely Rudiger and Tchouameni.
Talking about Benzema's contract maybe this is a bit reasonable but I still have a feeling that this contract will still be extended. Benzema's productivity is still very good and it is possible that next season will also be the same even though he is indeed quite old now but I don't think the changes will be significant in terms of productivity next season.

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Quote from: bekti3 on June 10, 2022, 10:39:37 AM

Quote from: suryana on June 10, 2022, 05:00:28 AM

I don't think Messi's era is over yet he can still play 2-3 more years but for his contribution to PSG, the quality of Lionel Messi is still not visible, but it's different from the Argentine national team where his contribution really gives positive results for the Tango Team, because we know that Messi is still under the shadow of Neymar and Mbappe so that it affects his performance at the club located in the city of Paris, perhaps his departure from Barcelona is inseparable from the financial crisis experienced by the Catalan club so that they can no longer afford to pay super expensive salaries.requested by Lionel Messi himself so that Barcelona decided to release him to PSG in the midst of Barcelona's own financial crisis

He can still contribute but in terms of performance this has obviously gone downhill especially to be at PSG at the moment.
His performance has decreased considerably and that is a fact because the age factor is also decisive in this.
On the other hand, the players at PSG are also almost all players who have famous names so it is difficult to be conspicuous.

Yes Messi's performance at PSG is still a shock to the world as his known to do better than he did, but let's give him time, this is his first season with psg and with time he would do better. I don't think the presence of Neymar and Mbappe was part of his issues in the club, we all know Messi is still fit and would be able to play for more 4 years or thereabout.

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 10, 2022, 03:19:40 PM

I am glad that Eric ten Hag said that at United the attacking line does not need to be strengthened (in terms of transfers), it is only necessary that the players be more effective. Apparently he was referring to Rashford and the others because Ronaldo is doing a great job. And I am glad that United are planning to strengthen all their other lines, maybe next season they will still be closer to the top.

Manchester United's priority is not the attacking line yeah. The most important thing for them is to strengthen their defense now. I wish Manchester United sell Harry Maguire but it doesn't seem like it will happen. Grin

I don't think that he is reliable after that very bad performance last season. They can bring a better defender to replace him. If they don't do that they can at least sign a defensive midfielder to make their defense more reliable. They must solve this issue to be more effective next season.

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 09, 2022, 03:11:39 PM

United for Ronaldo is not just another club, so I think he will stay at United for the rest of his "big" career. In the Champions League, Ronaldo already has everything you can dream of and I don’t think that missing one season will be critical for him, and yes, I understand that maybe Ronaldo will no longer appear in the Champions League due to age, but such is life. Everything ever ends.

Yes, that is why he preferred to choose Man United at that time over other big clubs even in the late time. He considers that Man United is like his home where he comes and he goes home again until the end of his career, probably it will be like this.
But we don't know if something changes the situation and Ronaldo cannot play anymore in United, although this possibility is very small.
Actually, his performance is still very good, but at best he must also be supported by a solid team. If not, maybe his great career will decline at Man United, although he remains one of the prides of the world of football.

I am glad that Eric ten Hag said that at United the attacking line does not need to be strengthened (in terms of transfers), it is only necessary that the players be more effective. Apparently he was referring to Rashford and the others because Ronaldo is doing a great job. And I am glad that United are planning to strengthen all their other lines, maybe next season they will still be closer to the top.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on June 10, 2022, 08:33:53 AM

Quote from: hahay on June 10, 2022, 08:17:50 AM

But somehow, at that time Liverpool were the favourites and that reflected in the odds and yes, in the end Real Madrid really had quality and it wasn't just about luck.

I was one of Liverpool's favorites in the final. but unfortunately, Liverpool lost the moment of fighting for the most prestigious trophy in mainland Europe.
Madrid looked overwhelmed when they had to lose several times in the first leg against a strong team. but Madrid showed a winning mentality with a comeback that took Madrid to the final. I believe it's not luck. Madrid does have the quality of the game to win.
in a final featuring only 1 leg, I hope Madrid is not that strong. vinicius became a player who buried Liverpool's hopes.

No liverpool fans was happy following their defeat in the the champions league final, but that's football, looking at the roll Liverpool were on at the time,one would picked liverpool to be the champion. Liverpool's game wasn't bad they actually had many chances that should have resulted to goals but they couldn't place them.

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