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I'm already seeing Liverpool, Manchester City and Bayern Munich as the obvious favourites for the semi finals. But I'm still indecisive about the Chelsea - Real Madrid matchup. As you can remember, Chelsea eliminated Real Madrid in the semi finals last season of the Champions League. And the same Chelsea are the last champion team in this tournament too. Real Madrid should get ready for a tough fight in this matchup. Chelsea are a team that play smart under Tuchel's management. They wouldn't forgive big mistakes again.
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Underestimating or not I think there are two meanings to be had, is it really an understatement or indeed statistically have a better chance or can be said about winning on paper. Whatever it is, I think it's natural because in a match there will always be a winning team and a losing team. But about the match between Benfica v Liverpool, we can also see how they qualified for the quarter-finals and what kind of opponents they faced in the round of 16. Liverpool eliminated Inter while Benfica eliminated Ajax, if I consider the opponents they faced in the last 16 it seems Inter are still better and Liverpool can overcome that. Although indeed, Benfica is also not a weak team at all, but in this case I only consider based on reality.
Agree, because whatever the reality is Liverpool on paper or on the field then compared to Benfica is clearly superior. Because this is a pretty fierce match and the race to enter the top 8 at least both Benfica and Liverpool have the same rights and opportunities. It's just that most people are clearly inclined to take Liverpool as a bet.
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I believe we will have Liverpool and Bayern as semi-finalists, and on the other hand my favorite is Manchester City to reach the final.
I'm just curious to know how the clash between Real Madrid and Chelsea will be.

I say that because soon the English won't even be able to pay salaries anymore, sell shirts, travel beyond the war that hasn't ended yet, these things have a lot of influence on the field.

Real Madrid, on the other hand, was a team that was "almost dead", but that turned around and has a great chance of reaching the semifinals
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I think have opportunity with Atletico Madrid because Manchester City will priority on primer league behind 1 points left from Liverpool and have busy match trough two weeks later before the quarter final champion league begins.

It will be difficult for Manchester City to make a decision now. Would they consider winning the Premier League more important than the Champions League? If you want to do well in both places, the chances of losing points will increase. Guardiola must be chosen one. Liverpool is 1 point behind in the Premier League. On the other hand, if they lose in the first leg against Atletico Madrid, they will fall behind. The next round will be uncertain.
With Manchester City performance in the premiere leagues it is sure for Manchester City to hold on to the trophy since they have maintained the first position in the premier league table with the highest point even though Liverpool is just a point below Manchester City. Indeed how far man city can go in the championship will depend on the outcome of the next matches as you rightly said Manchester City can hold on to both the premier league and the champion leagues in the 2021/2022 round but it will take extra effort for them to achieve that in this season.
I think Liverpool stands a better chance to win the league at the moment if we are to judge by their form and consistency. They could even go on top of the league before their meeting with Manchester City; all they need do is just beat South Hampton and that would give them a psychological advantage over City in their fixture since City won't be involve in league game this weekend, this is perfect opportunity for Liverpool.
If they can just manage to beat Manchester  City, I think the title is theirs.
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I think you understimate Benfica too much. Yeah, LFC is big favorites, but I woludn't say that Benfica don't stand a chance. They already kicked out Ajax, which is very solid team this season. IMO, Bayern got easiest opponent. Villarreal is dark horse of tournament, they already eliminated Juventus quite unexpected, but I don't see chances for them against Bayern.

In fact, every team left has a chance. Bayern this season is unstable and in many matches it- conceded several goals at once. If Villarreal can win the first leg or start the second leg with a big score then Bayern may not find the reserves to turn the game around. Atlético chances in defense and penalty shootout  Grin That's where Benfica's chances are hard enough to model. Liverpool will not repeat the mistakes of Ajax (which had a huge advantage in the first match but did not convert it) and I think it will confidently win both games.
Underestimating or not I think there are two meanings to be had, is it really an understatement or indeed statistically have a better chance or can be said about winning on paper. Whatever it is, I think it's natural because in a match there will always be a winning team and a losing team. But about the match between Benfica v Liverpool, we can also see how they qualified for the quarter-finals and what kind of opponents they faced in the round of 16. Liverpool eliminated Inter while Benfica eliminated Ajax, if I consider the opponents they faced in the last 16 it seems Inter are still better and Liverpool can overcome that. Although indeed, Benfica is also not a weak team at all, but in this case I only consider based on reality.
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I think have opportunity with Atletico Madrid because Manchester City will priority on primer league behind 1 points left from Liverpool and have busy match trough two weeks later before the quarter final champion league begins.
It will be difficult for Manchester City to make a decision now. Would they consider winning the Premier League more important than the Champions League? If you want to do well in both places, the chances of losing points will increase. Guardiola must be chosen one. Liverpool is 1 point behind in the Premier League. On the other hand, if they lose in the first leg against Atletico Madrid, they will fall behind. The next round will be uncertain.
With Manchester City performance in the premiere leagues it is sure for Manchester City to hold on to the trophy since they have maintained the first position in the premier league table with the highest point even though Liverpool is just a point below Manchester City. Indeed how far man city can go in the championship will depend on the outcome of the next matches as you rightly said Manchester City can hold on to both the premier league and the champion leagues in the 2021/2022 round but it will take extra effort for them to achieve that in this season.

You're right, Manchester City players have to give their best if they want to win both titles. They have the ability to win both titles. But it is very difficult. With such a busy schedule, players get tired and often get injured. It is possible for Manchester City to win both titles if the players are not tired and injured. Because Guardiola is a very experienced coach. He knows how to perform well with the team.

Guardiola is a very good manager. I think the same as you in this regard. I am sure that Manchester City will do their best in both However, players will have to get used to this intense pace. Although, almost all of Manchester City's players are used to this pace as they are top players. If they continue at this pace, they will be champions in both lanes.
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Chelsea-Real Madrid
Manchester City-Atletico Madrid
Villarreal-FC Bayern
Liverpool-Benfica

This are the officially he draws for the next rounds, three premier league teams, three Spanish teams, a German team, and lastly Portuguese.

Who qualifies for the next round ? Grin
The draw is looking simple to predict as the match is obviously between the strong and the weak or between the stronger and the strong. But football always has a way to surprise people. Every week has a special surprise to football lovers, every tournament has a shock. For champions league, it seems that Benzema has exhausted all the surprises of champions league against psg.
It can be safe to predict that;
Chelsea - out
Villareal - out
Benfica - out
ATM  - out.
I don't know if I should bet to qualify with the options I predicted above, what is your stake?
Do you think Chelsea and ATM might be stubborn and change the whole thing?
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I think you understimate Benfica too much. Yeah, LFC is big favorites, but I woludn't say that Benfica don't stand a chance. They already kicked out Ajax, which is very solid team this season. IMO, Bayern got easiest opponent. Villarreal is dark horse of tournament, they already eliminated Juventus quite unexpected, but I don't see chances for them against Bayern.

In fact, every team left has a chance. Bayern this season is unstable and in many matches it- conceded several goals at once. If Villarreal can win the first leg or start the second leg with a big score then Bayern may not find the reserves to turn the game around. Atlético chances in defense and penalty shootout  Grin That's where Benfica's chances are hard enough to model. Liverpool will not repeat the mistakes of Ajax (which had a huge advantage in the first match but did not convert it) and I think it will confidently win both games.
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You're right, Manchester City players have to give their best if they want to win both titles. They have the ability to win both titles. But it is very difficult. With such a busy schedule, players get tired and often get injured. It is possible for Manchester City to win both titles if the players are not tired and injured. Because Guardiola is a very experienced coach. He knows how to perform well with the team.
Guardiola has a lot of experience in the Champions League and he has even won several titles before with Barcelona. But in previous seasons he admitted that Manchester City were still not ready to win the Champions League title because of the team's lack of experience in competing in the previous Champions League.

I think the failure of Guardiola and Manchester City last season in the Champions League final should be a valuable lesson for them this season. The possibility of qualifying for the final is still very possible and they have to ensure that this season to the owners and supporters.
Manchester City can definitely qualify for the top 4 would be very possible, I'm sure Pep Guardiola can give his best this season. Judging from Guardiola's achievements with Man City for a long time, it is likely that facing Atletico Madrid will end in victory for Guardiola. Atletico's victory yesterday against Man United was just a stroke of luck because Man United performance was not in good condition.
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You're right, Manchester City players have to give their best if they want to win both titles. They have the ability to win both titles. But it is very difficult. With such a busy schedule, players get tired and often get injured. It is possible for Manchester City to win both titles if the players are not tired and injured. Because Guardiola is a very experienced coach. He knows how to perform well with the team.
Guardiola has a lot of experience in the Champions League and he has even won several titles before with Barcelona. But in previous seasons he admitted that Manchester City were still not ready to win the Champions League title because of the team's lack of experience in competing in the previous Champions League.

I think the failure of Guardiola and Manchester City last season in the Champions League final should be a valuable lesson for them this season. The possibility of qualifying for the final is still very possible and they have to ensure that this season to the owners and supporters.
Trough six years with Manchester City Pep Guardiola always failure giving champion league trophy and he was failed before with Bayern Munich and only Barcelona as team was success give champion league trophy. He looks not competent with other team except Barcelona and last  on 2015 defeated Juventus on final 3-1. Now he has try thousand way with financial support on Manchester City but still failed how to get champion league trophy. Still pessimist with Guardiola chance trough Manchester City in this season success or not give champion league trophy exactly Atletico Madrid have waiting for on quarter final.
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You're right, Manchester City players have to give their best if they want to win both titles. They have the ability to win both titles. But it is very difficult. With such a busy schedule, players get tired and often get injured. It is possible for Manchester City to win both titles if the players are not tired and injured. Because Guardiola is a very experienced coach. He knows how to perform well with the team.
Guardiola has a lot of experience in the Champions League and he has even won several titles before with Barcelona. But in previous seasons he admitted that Manchester City were still not ready to win the Champions League title because of the team's lack of experience in competing in the previous Champions League.

I think the failure of Guardiola and Manchester City last season in the Champions League final should be a valuable lesson for them this season. The possibility of qualifying for the final is still very possible and they have to ensure that this season to the owners and supporters.

Guardiola has a difficult task to prove to himself and others that he can win the Champions League without Messi in the best days and in a team other than Barcelona.
He didn't succeed with Bayern and for many years he has not managed to win the Champions League with Manchester City either.
Somehow it seems to me that in recent years in all the big Champions League matches Guardiola has been too cautious and has not allowed his players to play their usual game.
I predict that the new winner of the Champions League will be decided in the matches between Manchester City, Real, Bayern and Liverpool.
Other clubs, with the exception of Chelsea, have much less chances.
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I think have opportunity with Atletico Madrid because Manchester City will priority on primer league behind 1 points left from Liverpool and have busy match trough two weeks later before the quarter final champion league begins.
It will be difficult for Manchester City to make a decision now. Would they consider winning the Premier League more important than the Champions League? If you want to do well in both places, the chances of losing points will increase. Guardiola must be chosen one. Liverpool is 1 point behind in the Premier League. On the other hand, if they lose in the first leg against Atletico Madrid, they will fall behind. The next round will be uncertain.
With Manchester City performance in the premiere leagues it is sure for Manchester City to hold on to the trophy since they have maintained the first position in the premier league table with the highest point even though Liverpool is just a point below Manchester City. Indeed how far man city can go in the championship will depend on the outcome of the next matches as you rightly said Manchester City can hold on to both the premier league and the champion leagues in the 2021/2022 round but it will take extra effort for them to achieve that in this season.

You're right, Manchester City players have to give their best if they want to win both titles. They have the ability to win both titles. But it is very difficult. With such a busy schedule, players get tired and often get injured. It is possible for Manchester City to win both titles if the players are not tired and injured. Because Guardiola is a very experienced coach. He knows how to perform well with the team.

Manchester City's concentration will indeed be divided but I don't think Man City will let go of their chance in the Champions League. Pep Guardiola is familiar with Atletico Madrid's style of play and I'm sure he already has a strategy to deal with Atletico Madrid.

We all know that Man City's position is no longer safe in the Premier League and I think what will be decisive is the game against Liverpool on April 10. Of course, the match will be very tiring because of the tight schedule they have to go through which they also have to play against Atletico between those days.
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You're right, Manchester City players have to give their best if they want to win both titles. They have the ability to win both titles. But it is very difficult. With such a busy schedule, players get tired and often get injured. It is possible for Manchester City to win both titles if the players are not tired and injured. Because Guardiola is a very experienced coach. He knows how to perform well with the team.
Guardiola has a lot of experience in the Champions League and he has even won several titles before with Barcelona. But in previous seasons he admitted that Manchester City were still not ready to win the Champions League title because of the team's lack of experience in competing in the previous Champions League.

I think the failure of Guardiola and Manchester City last season in the Champions League final should be a valuable lesson for them this season. The possibility of qualifying for the final is still very possible and they have to ensure that this season to the owners and supporters.
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I think have opportunity with Atletico Madrid because Manchester City will priority on primer league behind 1 points left from Liverpool and have busy match trough two weeks later before the quarter final champion league begins.
It will be difficult for Manchester City to make a decision now. Would they consider winning the Premier League more important than the Champions League? If you want to do well in both places, the chances of losing points will increase. Guardiola must be chosen one. Liverpool is 1 point behind in the Premier League. On the other hand, if they lose in the first leg against Atletico Madrid, they will fall behind. The next round will be uncertain.
With Manchester City performance in the premiere leagues it is sure for Manchester City to hold on to the trophy since they have maintained the first position in the premier league table with the highest point even though Liverpool is just a point below Manchester City. Indeed how far man city can go in the championship will depend on the outcome of the next matches as you rightly said Manchester City can hold on to both the premier league and the champion leagues in the 2021/2022 round but it will take extra effort for them to achieve that in this season.

You're right, Manchester City players have to give their best if they want to win both titles. They have the ability to win both titles. But it is very difficult. With such a busy schedule, players get tired and often get injured. It is possible for Manchester City to win both titles if the players are not tired and injured. Because Guardiola is a very experienced coach. He knows how to perform well with the team.
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I think have opportunity with Atletico Madrid because Manchester City will priority on primer league behind 1 points left from Liverpool and have busy match trough two weeks later before the quarter final champion league begins.

It will be difficult for Manchester City to make a decision now. Would they consider winning the Premier League more important than the Champions League? If you want to do well in both places, the chances of losing points will increase. Guardiola must be chosen one. Liverpool is 1 point behind in the Premier League. On the other hand, if they lose in the first leg against Atletico Madrid, they will fall behind. The next round will be uncertain.
With Manchester City performance in the premiere leagues it is sure for Manchester City to hold on to the trophy since they have maintained the first position in the premier league table with the highest point even though Liverpool is just a point below Manchester City. Indeed how far man city can go in the championship will depend on the outcome of the next matches as you rightly said Manchester City can hold on to both the premier league and the champion leagues in the 2021/2022 round but it will take extra effort for them to achieve that in this season.
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Who qualifies for the next round ? Grin
IMO. Here are the team to qualify for the next round:
- Real Madrid
- Man City
- Bayern Munchen
- Liverpool
It looks very easy to guess because the team is at the top in their respective league, but on the field anything can happen later because the game in the champions league is really different, but indeed all 4 teams have experience in CL.

If all the guesses are correct then the semifinals will be difficult to predict who will qualify for the final, I'm just looking forward to the top 4 for those who will compete closely later.
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I think have opportunity with Atletico Madrid because Manchester City will priority on primer league behind 1 points left from Liverpool and have busy match trough two weeks later before quarter final champion league begin.

It will be difficult for Manchester City to make a decision now. Would they consider winning the Premier League more important than the Champions League? If you want to do well in both places, the chances of losing points will increase. Guardiola must be chosen one. Liverpool is 1 point behind in the Premier League. On the other hand, if they lose in the first leg against Atletico Madrid, they will fall behind. The next round will be uncertain.
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Bayern Munich is indeed seeded over Villarreal in the upcoming match, but Bayern's players must remain vigilant and must be able to maintain concentration throughout the match so as not to make mistakes that can be a gap for Villarreal, maybe Villarreal is not too difficult an opponent for Bayern but they must not underestimate their opponent because if Bayern players don't play consistently they will likely suffer the same fate as Juventus against Villarreal in the previous match.

You're absolutely right, it's not because Villarreal is theoretically weaker that Bayern have to facilitate.
Now the question is: what is the game that Bayern players facilitate? Such moments are rare. Even in games where they are already winning 3-0, they keep pressing, and the game ends up with 5 or 6-0.
Of course they also have bad games, but I think it's difficult for Villarreal to be able to overcome Bayern,
Yes, indeed, looking at the statistics of the two teams, the difference is very clear. I think Villarreal went through no more because Juventus were unlucky. Because judging from their game, Juventus were better but unfortunately they couldn't avoid Villarreal's goal.
Apart from that, I hope Villarreal presents an effective game to make the game more interesting.
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in terms of quality Manchester City players are superior to Atletico, I think Atletico Madrid's victory over Manchester United cannot be a reference that they will also beat Manchester City, this season it is very clear that Manchester City is stronger than Manchester United by winning the Derby for the second time this season this.
I have no doubts for Manchester City's win over Alletico even I think Manchester City will be able to win it easily.
I myself am a favorite for Manchester City to win the UCL this season and with the game and also the quality of players they have this season it is very possible.
Actually should be reference because the same style game play because between Manchester City and Manchester United coming from primer league, also have the different quality player between City and United but mentality will talking more on champion league than how impressive performance shoed by Manchester City trough group stage and knock out phase.
I think have opportunity with Atletico Madrid because Manchester City will priority on primer league behind 1 points left from Liverpool and have busy match trough two weeks later before quarter final champion league begin.
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Bayern Munich is indeed seeded over Villarreal in the upcoming match, but Bayern's players must remain vigilant and must be able to maintain concentration throughout the match so as not to make mistakes that can be a gap for Villarreal, maybe Villarreal is not too difficult an opponent for Bayern but they must not underestimate their opponent because if Bayern players don't play consistently they will likely suffer the same fate as Juventus against Villarreal in the previous match.

You're absolutely right, it's not because Villarreal is theoretically weaker that Bayern have to facilitate.
Now the question is: what is the game that Bayern players facilitate? Such moments are rare. Even in games where they are already winning 3-0, they keep pressing, and the game ends up with 5 or 6-0.
Of course they also have bad games, but I think it's difficult for Villarreal to be able to overcome Bayern,
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