UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 453.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on February 09, 2022, 01:50:31 PM

Real Madrid and PSG are in good forms, they are both top of their domestic leagues respectively and from their head to head stats they have met 9 times with Real Madrid winning 5 of those 2 draws and PSG winning just 2, Real Madrid have the upper hand when it comes to head to head meetings and judging from their current forms they are both on the same level. So I think the best team and who wants it more should win, we might see some moments of brilliance form some good individual players as well.

It was quite a long match judging from H2H because if I'm not mistaken they last met in 2019 and it's been 3 years.
I don't think H2H can really be used as a reference now but I personally will be at Real Madrid's side now because I feel they have a greater chance of qualifying.
The problem now is that I'm thinking about Benzema whether he will be able to play or not because if he still can't play then Real Madrid will definitely be in a lot of trouble because there really isn't anyone to rely on on the front lines.

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Quote from: swogerino on February 09, 2022, 04:02:18 AM

Next Tuesday is the date of the game which could have been very well the final game of the Champions League,it is PSG vs Real Madrid which I think without a doubt will be a very beautiful game to watch as both teams have star players.Of course for me PSG is the favorite as they have better quality players if we look at them individually but when you play as a team is not individual quality that matters but the harmony between such individuals and whichever team is better playing in harmony will have the better chances to qualify further.

This match will definitely be competitive if Benzema is in the squad. Because Real Madrid relies heavily on Benzema to score. We have seen the performance of Real Madrid in the last few matches. They are not playing as well as expected against weaker teams. Benzema and Vinicius were not in the team. Real Madrid's Benzema will definitely be needed against a strong PSG. And if Benzema is not in the team then maybe Real Madrid will try to draw this match.

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Villarreal and Juventus are going to have a matchup against each other. And this is also an interesting matchup I think even though not so many people are talking about it. The odds for the first match is very close now. Bookmakers are confused now as we see that some of them favour Villarreal but some of them think the opposite. But all of them are expecting a competitive match seemingly. And I think so too. Villarreal can be a really deadly team when they have a good day. I think that the first match could end in a draw.

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Real Madrid and PSG are in good forms, they are both top of their domestic leagues respectively and from their head to head stats they have met 9 times with Real Madrid winning 5 of those 2 draws and PSG winning just 2, Real Madrid have the upper hand when it comes to head to head meetings and judging from their current forms they are both on the same level. So I think the best team and who wants it more should win, we might see some moments of brilliance form some good individual players as well.

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Juventus could have had it worse with the pairing. Still, Villareal is a team you should not underestimate. Have often done really well in the Europa League, won a few times I thought I remembered. Juventus seems to me to be the favorite for this match, especially over 2 matches. And then with the draw it can go either way. It is difficult to estimate how good Juventus are at the moment.

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Quote from: AakZaki on February 09, 2022, 11:51:00 AM

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Juventus as serious team make improvement with transfer market by getting two player Denis Zakaria and Dusan Vlahovic and wonderful debut for both player because success scored goal for Juventus on Serie A last week. I think Villareal is not really make Juventus busy for Champion League match and I predicting easy for Juventus move to the next stage or quarter final. Still have few weeks later for Juventus against with Villareal and lucky because first leg Juventus playing as away. I think Juventus will take to semi final depending which one team against next stage.

If you look at the experience and strength of the players I also want Juve to qualify for the next round. But sometimes their fighting spirit is very different from league competitions. In the league Juventus are trying to get back into the UCL zone while Villareal they are also struggling to rank better. Maybe juventus performances with the arrival of new players are more promising to win, but the first leg maybe they will be difficult to win I think a draw will be good for the second leg in Turin.

Juventus' opponent is Villarreal. I would not say that Villarreal is too strong. Juventus are better than Villarreal. Villarreal's condition is not very good in La Liga either. I think Juventus are the favorites in this match. Because there is continuity in the performance of their players. The first match is Villarreal's home match. Winning this match will be difficult for Juventus. But since the players are in good form now, I don't think they will disappoint us.

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Quote from: KTChampions on February 09, 2022, 11:23:35 AM

Quote from: Falconer on February 09, 2022, 01:52:23 AM

I agree with Liverpool's chances of qualifying for the quarter-finals, but to reach the final and win the title I can't believe it will be easy because of course the opponents they will face will not be easy. It all depends on which team they will face in the quarter-finals or finals.

Meanwhile, Inter and Liverpool have equal chances to win the match in the round of 16. Victory in the first leg will determine which team has a greater chance of qualifying, although sometimes in the second leg the team that loses in the first leg can win and advance to the quarter-finals. Liverpool are the favourites, I think that's true and they deserve to be in the quarter-finals this season.

The decisive match will take place in Liverpool, so Inter is in a very difficult position: knowing how strong Liverpool is at home, Inter will be forced to try to decide the fate of the match in their favor in the first meeting. But Liverpool can easily take advantage of this by playing on the counter and penalizing Inter for open play in which it is definitely stronger than Inter.

Actually Liverpool can win more easily as long as in the first leg they can only draw let alone win, because if the decision is in Liverpool then it will be easier for the hosts later, I only know Inter are sharper in the domestic league and it will be very different playing in the UCL, Seeing an agile game of course Liverpool have fast players and Inter will be a little slow and can be pressured later, so the biggest chance may be Liverpool who can qualify for the quarter-finals.

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Quote from: onetwostep on February 09, 2022, 06:38:42 AM

I agree with that, Ronaldo was a very good player, but it was not possible to make this team champion alone. In order for a team to be a champion, every player must be successful, players who can score goals or pass well are not enough for this.
I think they have a much worse team this year compared to previous years. They didn't even lead their league

Juventus have gone many steps backward, I'd not say that it's as a result of Ranaldo leaving the team, though that might have contributed to it a little bit, but in my opinion I believe they have lost their flair of playing together as a team, Juventus were so strong in their league and were not doing too badly in the UCL for many years cause they knew how to play together as a team and win, they need to regain that to start winning again. Of course I have to agree with you, they are much worse this season than in previous times, they really have little or no choice of winning the CL, they'll try, but my favorites remain City, Bayern and Real Madrid.

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Quote from: qory on February 08, 2022, 02:48:00 PM

Juventus have no chance of winning the Champions League title. That also testifies to the odds you get if they do manage to win the title. When Ronaldo was still playing there, they actually accomplished nothing, eliminated against Ajax and Lyon. Especially against Lyon was an embarrassment time. And now without Ronaldo it doesn't work at all. Admittedly, with a favorable draw you can go far without playing well.

If you say that juventus will be difficult in the champions league this season without ronaldo, I think you are very wrong, if you look at juventus a few seasons ago when it was not strengthened by ronaldo, instead juventus was able to show their capacity as one of the teams that challenged the champions league title and even they able to qualify for the Champions League final in 2014/15 and 2016/17, but on the other hand they actually slumped in the champions league when ronaldo joined in 2018, together with ronaldo, juventus let alone qualify for the final even Juventus never made it to the semifinals though, with ronaldo juventus continued to be eliminated in the quarter-finals in 2018/19 and the rest they stopped in the round of 16 in 2019/20 and 2020/21.
I think juventus was like a curse in the champions league when they were with ronaldo and maybe this season they will be able to go far in the champions league without ronaldo.

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Quote from: AakZaki on February 09, 2022, 11:51:00 AM

If you look at the experience and strength of the players I also want Juve to qualify for the next round. But sometimes their fighting spirit is very different from league competitions. In the league Juventus are trying to get back into the UCL zone while Villareal they are also struggling to rank better. Maybe juventus performances with the arrival of new players are more promising to win, but the first leg maybe they will be difficult to win I think a draw will be good for the second leg in Turin.

It's always a different fighting spirit when they play in the champions league because this is a prestigious and important match for every player and his club, so Villareal will certainly be better when playing at home as the first leg, but Juventus as a team with experience in the champions league of course have the same dream of signing Denis Zakaria and Dusan Vlahovic so I think this match will be very surprising later.
It was also reported that the purchase of Juventus for players Zakaria and Vlahovic was the right purchase and could change the atmosphere of the game later.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on February 08, 2022, 09:06:05 AM

Juventus as serious team make improvement with transfer market by getting two player Denis Zakaria and Dusan Vlahovic and wonderful debut for both player because success scored goal for Juventus on Serie A last week. I think Villareal is not really make Juventus busy for Champion League match and I predicting easy for Juventus move to the next stage or quarter final. Still have few weeks later for Juventus against with Villareal and lucky because first leg Juventus playing as away. I think Juventus will take to semi final depending which one team against next stage.

If you look at the experience and strength of the players I also want Juve to qualify for the next round. But sometimes their fighting spirit is very different from league competitions. In the league Juventus are trying to get back into the UCL zone while Villareal they are also struggling to rank better. Maybe juventus performances with the arrival of new players are more promising to win, but the first leg maybe they will be difficult to win I think a draw will be good for the second leg in Turin.

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Quote from: onetwostep on February 09, 2022, 06:38:42 AM

Quote from: qory on February 08, 2022, 02:48:00 PM

Juventus have no chance of winning the Champions League title. That also testifies to the odds you get if they do manage to win the title. When Ronaldo was still playing there, they actually accomplished nothing, eliminated against Ajax and Lyon. Especially against Lyon was an embarrassment time. And now without Ronaldo it doesn't work at all. Admittedly, with a favorable draw you can go far without playing well.

I agree with that, Ronaldo was a very good player, but it was not possible to make this team champion alone. In order for a team to be a champion, every player must be successful, players who can score goals or pass well are not enough for this.
I think they have a much worse team this year compared to previous years. They didn't even lead their league

When you are lucky with draws you will go far in the tournament until you will get to the point where lucky will not work again because the remaining people are all good teams. Juventus will not win the champions league. This year champions league has many favourites and Juventus is not included in them.
When Ronaldo was in Juventus he did his best but his best did not win the champions league. As you said in the above, only one individual cannot do it, the whole teams must be good. Another important thing is the mentality of the coach. If the coach no get winning mentality, he cannot lift the champions league trophy.

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Quote from: Falconer on February 09, 2022, 01:52:23 AM

I agree with Liverpool's chances of qualifying for the quarter-finals, but to reach the final and win the title I can't believe it will be easy because of course the opponents they will face will not be easy. It all depends on which team they will face in the quarter-finals or finals.

Meanwhile, Inter and Liverpool have equal chances to win the match in the round of 16. Victory in the first leg will determine which team has a greater chance of qualifying, although sometimes in the second leg the team that loses in the first leg can win and advance to the quarter-finals. Liverpool are the favourites, I think that's true and they deserve to be in the quarter-finals this season.

The decisive match will take place in Liverpool, so Inter is in a very difficult position: knowing how strong Liverpool is at home, Inter will be forced to try to decide the fate of the match in their favor in the first meeting. But Liverpool can easily take advantage of this by playing on the counter and penalizing Inter for open play in which it is definitely stronger than Inter.

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Quote from: onetwostep on February 09, 2022, 06:38:42 AM

Quote from: qory on February 08, 2022, 02:48:00 PM

Juventus have no chance of winning the Champions League title. That also testifies to the odds you get if they do manage to win the title. When Ronaldo was still playing there, they actually accomplished nothing, eliminated against Ajax and Lyon. Especially against Lyon was an embarrassment time. And now without Ronaldo it doesn't work at all. Admittedly, with a favorable draw you can go far without playing well.

I agree with that, Ronaldo was a very good player, but it was not possible to make this team champion alone. In order for a team to be a champion, every player must be successful, players who can score goals or pass well are not enough for this.
I think they have a much worse team this year compared to previous years. They didn't even lead their league

I do not think having Ronaldo in your team guarantees you anything, he can make some crucial additions at some point and maybe produce some moment of individual brilliance, but if the whole team isn't working he cannot do everything all alone. Both Juventus and Villarreal are almost in the same form but I think Juventus can edge pass Villarreal considering some important signing they added to the squad. But Villarreal wouldn't be am easy match for them.

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Quote from: qory on February 08, 2022, 02:48:00 PM

Juventus have no chance of winning the Champions League title. That also testifies to the odds you get if they do manage to win the title. When Ronaldo was still playing there, they actually accomplished nothing, eliminated against Ajax and Lyon. Especially against Lyon was an embarrassment time. And now without Ronaldo it doesn't work at all. Admittedly, with a favorable draw you can go far without playing well.

I agree with that, Ronaldo was a very good player, but it was not possible to make this team champion alone. In order for a team to be a champion, every player must be successful, players who can score goals or pass well are not enough for this.
I think they have a much worse team this year compared to previous years. They didn't even lead their league

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Inter - Liverpool also seems to be a candidate to become a very exciting matchup. Especially the game in Giuseppe Meazza can be really competitive. Because Inter are playing really dominant in their home games. Maybe they can't dominate that much against Liverpool but we can watch a quite balanced game. And at the end, I believe that Inter wouldn't lose. However, even a draw could be enough for Liverpool to advance to the quarter finals. Because in Anfield, I think Inter would have big problems.

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Next Tuesday is the date of the game which could have been very well the final game of the Champions League,it is PSG vs Real Madrid which I think without a doubt will be a very beautiful game to watch as both teams have star players.Of course for me PSG is the favorite as they have better quality players if we look at them individually but when you play as a team is not individual quality that matters but the harmony between such individuals and whichever team is better playing in harmony will have the better chances to qualify further.

this match has really been talked about a lot
we hope it is worthy of our expectations
I also expect great things and a great show
I wouldn't mind that there were 4-5 goals in total in the match, it would be really great fun

Definitely worth watching this match. Everyone has been waiting for this match for a long time and there has been a lot of talk about this match. There are legendary players in both teams, legends in both clubs will be a good match. PSG are way better individually so they have a higher chance of winning in my opinion. PSG's job may not be easy if Real Madrid gains good momentum as a team.

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Quote from: swogerino on February 09, 2022, 04:02:18 AM

Next Tuesday is the date of the game which could have been very well the final game of the Champions League,it is PSG vs Real Madrid which I think without a doubt will be a very beautiful game to watch as both teams have star players.Of course for me PSG is the favorite as they have better quality players if we look at them individually but when you play as a team is not individual quality that matters but the harmony between such individuals and whichever team is better playing in harmony will have the better chances to qualify further.

this match has really been talked about a lot
we hope it is worthy of our expectations
I also expect great things and a great show
I wouldn't mind that there were 4-5 goals in total in the match, it would be really great fun

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Next Tuesday is the date of the game which could have been very well the final game of the Champions League,it is PSG vs Real Madrid which I think without a doubt will be a very beautiful game to watch as both teams have star players.Of course for me PSG is the favorite as they have better quality players if we look at them individually but when you play as a team is not individual quality that matters but the harmony between such individuals and whichever team is better playing in harmony will have the better chances to qualify further.

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but lately messi's performance has improved again, messi has returned to his best performance, i am also very sure messi is able to score goals against real madrid, messi has never been absent from playing in the champions league, maybe this will be a strong encouragement and mentality for messi to be able to score goals, messi has often played against real madrid, for sure messi also knows the weaknesses of real madrid, just luck and team cohesiveness are needed to be able to get a win..

All things need to be fought together because football is also a very difficult sport to predict and Real Madrid has also changed a lot of players so what you say may turn out in fact because when Messi was at Barcelona and against Real Madrid the result was almost the same. often balanced and even the number of wins is still a lot for Real Madrid when viewed from 226 matches in total.
Maybe if there were a lot of players in the past before Messi moved to PSG you could say that, but what I see Real Madrid have also had a lot of new players this season, so it's already very difficult to predict.

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